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WikiTree Sourcer

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WikiTree Sourcer is a Browser Extension developed byRob Pavey and other contributors that helps the user to search for sources and cite them, thus saving a lot of time and manual typing.

It focuses on three goals:

  1. From a WikiTree profile page it provides the ability tosearch other genealogy websites for relevant records.
  2. From one of these genealogy websites' records page it can extract data andbuild a citation.
  3. Also from one of these genealogy websites records page it cansearch other genealogy websites forsimilar records. For example on an Ancestry page it can help find free versions of the same original source.

The extension is still in active development as features andsupported sites are added. The project isopen source and programmers are invited to help add support for new sites.

The extension is free to download for Chrome and Firefox (donations can be made if desired via the popup menu). For Safari there is a small charge to install the app because Apple charges a yearly subscription fee to publish on the App Store and does not allow donation links in the extension.

Watch the Intro Video here.

How to install

The extension works in many different browsers.

  • For Chrome, Opera, Brave, Edge, Vivaldi and other Chromium based browsers , install it from theChrome Web Store.
  • For Firefox install it from theFirefox Add-ons page.
  • For Safari search forWikiTree Sourcer in the App Store on Mac, iPad or iPhone. An app is installed, when you run the app it installs the extension in Safari.

For efficient use of the extension (in Chrome at least) you will want to "pin" the extension (under the jigsaw-piece icon in Chrome) so that the "[1]" always shows up in the toolbar.

Before using it too much check out the options page ("Options..." on the menu). There are different options for formatting and you can select which countries your subscriptions for Ancestry and FMP are in.

Technical Support

To report a bug please use one of these methods:

  1. Create a new issue on theGitHub page for Sourcer.
  2. add a comment on this Free Space Page

Please include as much detail as possible. Always include a link to the page you were on when you saw the bug.

We have a community of members discussing the extension, reporting issues and making suggestions on a "Rob Pavey Apps" Discord Server. If you would like to join please send a PM to me (Rob Pavey).

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Bartlett-17381
Gary Bartlett(new)
Hi Rob.

With 2.8.9, I see two issues with searches for Welsh FamilySearch marriage records, e.g. starting fromhttps://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/GB4R-18W,

1) Select ">" next to "Search Family Search", select "Search for a specific collection..."

Results in the error message "No supported collections in date range and country:Countries: Wales"

2) Return to the previous level and select "Search with specified parameters..." instead, choose type "Marriage", then unselect any married name(s), and then "Do Search"

Results in No Results Found, because (as with one of my previously reported bugs), the Sex search parameter is pre-filled.

Remove the "Select Sex" parameter and run the "Search" and bingo, there are my two results.

Thanks again,Gary

postedbyGary Bartlett

Bartlett-17381
Gary Bartlett(new)
I realize the example I gave you was for a living individual, and other Welsh individuals I tried this on don't exhibit the first issue, so not sure what causes that first error. But the second issue exists for everyone.

Thanks.

postedbyGary Bartlett

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey(new)
In 2.8.9 I fixed it for specific collections. E.g. I know that searching the Civil Registration Marriage Index fails if a gender is specified. So you you use "Search Collection" on that it will exclude the gender.

That doesn't help when you are searching across multiple collections though. So should I exclude geneder for all FamilySearch searches?

postedbyRob Pavey
editedbyRob Pavey

Bartlett-17381
Gary Bartlett(new)
That's a great question. In my case I chose Family Search > Marriage, but presumably that would include parish marriage records in addition to marriage registration records. I don't know whether those other types of records would fail to show up with a gender filter attached. But, in my experience, I rarely need to distinguish between male and female ancestors in my searches, especially when I know their names, so I would be happy to drop the sex from all FamilySearch searches. Thanks!

postedbyGary Bartlett

Bartlett-17381
Gary Bartlett(new)
Hi Rob,

Sourcer 2.8.8 with "FamilySearch > Specific Collection... Civil Registration Marriage Index" from a FamilySearch profile page (e.g.https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/LDXK-5H7) runs the FamilySearch search with the person's Sex. This, unfortunately, guarantees the search will fail (seems like a bug in FamilySearch), returning no results. If you remove the Sex search term, the search returns valid matches.

Thanks,Gary

postedbyGary Bartlett

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey(new)
This should be fixed on version 2.8.9

postedbyRob Pavey

maybe probem is men clameing me weman , weman claming be men

now that screw up any data base, hits a new probem u not condiser,u should ask what sex asasign at brith, to provent this from happing,also if milatey recoreds are wrong and supporing documents prove otherthere no way to fix this, IE my grandfather, navy says he never got navy cross . how ever i got orgianal doucments said he did,now i discover there over 100 documents i cant get to that was given free to places like this yeat u charge us to find it ,in fack most of the data is cross link with other sights, free data , think there a probem with getting free data then forceing some one pay then clame copy right to itin fack u have no formal right to data, it public information so cant be copy writed, by any busness, think u should look at your own policys,as i would challage any busness in cort on this, and i would win, you all no more then data brokers, and maybe some compants need fiiled with dod, on that milatery recoreds must be given free, and cant hold copy wirte but only to liveing familys, and something i will get done soon

postedbyJames Boshears

Bartlett-17381
Gary Bartlett(new)
Hi Rob,

Sourcer 2.8.8 with "FreeBMD Birth" search from a female's FamilySearch profile page (e.g.https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/PS3R-VB7) pre-fills the FreeBMD Birth search page with the person's married surname (AKA) instead of their maiden name.

Thanks,Gary

postedbyGary Bartlett

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey(new)
Thanks, I have added it to my list here:https://github.com/RobPavey/wikitree-sourcer/issues/115

I should get to it soon.

postedbyRob Pavey

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey(new)
This is fixed in Sourcer version 2.8.9

postedbyRob Pavey

Hi Rob,

Keep up the great work.

In the last few days I've noticed that previously working ancestry source links in profiles like Pengilly-211 no longer work. Both the sharing link and the record link come up with an error "This site can’t be reached" when ancestry itself is working fine.

postedbyPippa Binnie

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey(new)
The links on that profile work OK for me. It sounds like you might be having problems on your device with the linksynergy links that WikiTree uses. Has anything changed on your device recently? Maybe with VPN or firewall, anti-virus etc,

postedbyRob Pavey

Not consciously, I hope I can try to figure out what to change to correct it my end but as long as the links still work for others, I'm happy about that. It's just the ancestry links BTW, the links to other sites work just fine so it can't be my general security settings. I tried resetting my chrome settings and reenabled the extensions but I'm still getting the same error messages. I don't know what else to do. I've not consiously changed any settings or permissions on the PC for a while.

postedbyPippa Binnie
editedbyPippa Binnie

Kessler-2015
Louis Kessler
Hi Rob,

I love your WikiTree Sourcer!

Ran into this interesting problem, which I'm sure you can fix easily.

I was adding a spouse and Setting Fields from Person Data that I saved from this Ancestry page:https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/39192864/person/19436964926/facts.

After adding a character to First Name at birth (to get around your current known bug) and accepting the death location which did not have the country name (USA) and pressing Continue, it correctly filled in everything on the Edit page.

I then pressed "Continue" at the bottom of the page and it gave me the message: "Change Needed. 1. A marriage date cannot be interpreted. Please use YYYY-MM-DD, DD Mon YYYY, or Month DD, YYYY". It turns out that the person's marriage date on Ancestry is given as 31 Apr 1935 which Sourcer must obviously be picking up as an error because April only has 30 days.

Clicking Continue flashes "Validating" and then just still gives the same error. The problem is that the marriage date is on the next page and there is no way to get there to correct it.

So either you need to make that a non-needed fix so the person can go to the next page, or get them to fix it in a dropdown (like you do for places), or remove the marriage date check completely, (or maybe something else) to allow editing to continue when adding a spouse with an illegal marriage date.

postedbyLouis Kessler
editedbyLouis Kessler

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Ah, that is an interesting issue. I will put it on my list to look at. Sourcer can't controls the code that prevents going to next page but I could write my own code in Sourcer to check the date and bring up a dialog when you paste as you say.

A workaround for now would be to use the WBE option to use the old style add person page with everything on one page.

postedbyRob Pavey

Hi Rob,

I am having some problems with adding new person , I have version 2.8.7 I turned it off and on it would not upgrade to the 2.8.8 I even uninstalled Sourcer and it only installed the 2.8.7 version when I try to add new person , it will pick up the info but when I try to drop it on the new person page it will not load not sure if its me or not

postedbyJanine Isleman

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
There was a bug introduced in 2.8.7. There is an easy workaround described here:

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1880556/workaround-wikitree-sourcer-hang-when-adding-spouse-mother

It is fixed in 2.8.8 but that has not yet made it through the review process for the Chrome Web Store.

postedbyRob Pavey

Good evening Rob,

ScotlandsPeople was offline for a few hours earlier; now it's back and WikiTree Sourcer has stopped working.

Error message I am getting is

"WikiTree Sourcer could not interpret the data on this page.It looks like a ScotlandsPeople page but does not contain the required person data."

I can't provide a link as it won't work without a ScotlandsPeople account.

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Thanks. I am working on it. I heard about it earlier today.

postedbyRob Pavey

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
This is fixed in 2.8.7 which should be available soon.

postedbyRob Pavey

Rob,

I have a minor one - FamilySearch Montana obituaries are identified as "Death". It would be nice if they said "Obituary" for the record type.(Using version 2.8.6)

Examples:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKM7-DN5C?lang=enhttps://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKMQ-R1MT?lang=en

It's easy enough for me to change it when pasting, but I thought you might want to review to see if it should be improved.

postedbyKevin Vap

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Thanks Kevin,

I have put that on the issues list here:https://github.com/RobPavey/wikitree-sourcer/issues/101

postedbyRob Pavey

Hi Rob,

I have been happily using Sourcer (and WBE) on the Kiwi browser on Android. However, support for the Kiwi browser was discontinued as of January 2025 so it is really unsafe to continue using it. Looking into other options it seemed like Firefox was the best best as i can use the Wikitree extensions on the Firefox desktop version. However, I cannot find any Wikitree extensions in Firefox for Android. Is this something you can make happen?

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Hi Michelle,

I don't have an Android device to test on. For a while I was checking the box when I released for Firefox to say it worked on Android but I got an error about that and stopped.I never heard from anyone who was able to use it in Firefox on Android. Have you tried any other extensions in Firefox on Android?

postedbyRob Pavey

I did try one other extension on Firefox on Android and works fine. I can test it for you if you want to try. I think (based on g2g) that most of us Wikitree Android users are using kiwi.
Greenfield-879
Tom Greenfield
Not sure whether I should report here or on github, so have done both:

When sourcing a FreeBMD record I noticed that the death registration quarter was cited as Jan-Feb-Mar, but this was actually the birth registration quarter, the death registration quarter according to GRO was July-Aug-Sep - is this a bug in WikiTree Sourcer or a transcription error in Free BMD?https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?cite=aGzrr%2B%2BC02OpOvuJRw7OVw&scan=1The WikiTree profile is:Lambert-18820Thanks for a great resource.

postedbyTom Greenfield

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Thanks, reporting on github is fine. I have added a comment there.

postedbyRob Pavey

Stratton-2372
JJ Stratton
I'm a little late to the party, but can now attest that this is an amazing tool - thank you!

I don't know where the correct time and place is to make requests? For anyone with German roots in Schleswig-Holstein or Danish roots, the free source Danish FamilySearch is a fantastic resource. If you can extract data from there, I would be so grateful.

I know you're busy with both the WikiTree update, and recovering from RootsTech, so certainly understand putting this on your back burner of possibilities. I'm also aware that you are a volunteer. So, thank you if you are willing to entertain this!

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/about/

postedbyJJ Stratton

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Thanks for the input. I have added it to my list (which is now on github here:https://github.com/RobPavey/wikitree-sourcer/issues )

postedbyRob Pavey

Stratton-2372
JJ Stratton
That's an impressive to-do list! Thank you for everything you do.

postedbyJJ Stratton

Wikisourcer sometimes displays the wrong gender when using GRO

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Harvey-19405Male instead of female. Using Chrome

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Thanks. This was caused by an interaction between the WBE and Sourcer. You can avoid it by turning of the "Change Family Lists" feature in WBE.

In Sourcer version 2.8.5 I have changed to code so that it should not be affected by WBE.

postedbyRob Pavey

Jones-36835
Peter Jones
Hey Rob

Thanks for the magnificent work on this. The update to the WikiTree look and feel over the last couple of days inspired me to purchase the extension on the Apple Store for Safari. It is SO GREAT, and I should have started using it before now!I do have a question about how to use it with the search for marriage records with the New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages (https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/marriages). I have found that when I am searching for the marriage of a female the extension automatically populates their names in the fields for the Groom rather than the Bride. Is there something that I need to do to adjust this behaviour?Cheers

postedbyPeter Jones

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Hi Peter,

I just tried that on a female WikiTree profile and it correctly populated the bride name. Could you share the link for a WT profile that is not working for you?Thanks,Rob

postedbyRob Pavey

Jones-36835
Peter Jones
Thanks Rob

Yeah, it's odd. This was a profile before that gave me a problem:https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Marshall-8983. I just tried it again and was still not right. I did try it with a different profile after offering my first comment though and it was fine!

postedbyPeter Jones

Gullison-3
Aaron Gullison
Not sure whats going on, but lately Sourcer has stopped copying middle names from pages.

postedbyAaron Gullison

Bloom-2632
Ron Bloom
Hi Rob-

Again, I love the sourcer. Copy the person data in Ancestry, set fields in Wikitree, build the citations in Ancestry, paste in Wikitree. Repeat. So efficient.

But like I complained about on the forum, it is driving me crazy with the Swedish records. Assuming you have Ancestry, check out this profile:https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/200767639/person/292643150552/facts

When I build the citations and paste, it makes both "Sweden, Household Clerical Surveys, 1654-1901" records each a marriage record! And then in the source text, it gets rid of all the interesting stuff like the birthday, the date range, and the household members. It must be difficult to handle every record out there, but please, when you get a chance:o Don't treat all these unknown records as marriage records, make them "a record of..." like you often do.o Or/and make an option to decide how to treat unknown records. Like an option to "override category", then a pull-down so I can choose "Census" or "Birthday" or "Marriage" etc as appropriate. I might have to do them individually but that would be an improvement. (I would choose Census for these.)

I can't find a workaround for this problem. Help! If you need more info you can also message me.

postedbyRon Bloom

Bloom-2632
Ron Bloom
Sorry, I should have held off on this mild rant. I know getting the sourcer to work with the new Wikitree is much higher priority.

postedbyRon Bloom

Fuller-8857
Katie Fuller
Using FreeBMD in Chrome makes my laptop run terribly slowly, so I'm trying Safari instead. WikiTree Sourcer seems to struggle to extract data from the record entry pages, eg.https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=70426666:4689&d=bmd_1737698379 which failed repeatedly (despite my refreshing the page), though of course now I've tried again it has worked! Just reporting this in case there's something intermittent going on.

postedbyKatie Fuller

Hi

I'm new to using the extension and hoping you can help! Whenever I try to use Build All Citations on ancestry.co.uk I get the error 'All sources were excluded due to option settings'. I cant seem to find an option causing this issue - can you help?

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
It could be that the only sources on the Ancestry profile are baptisms of children for example and you have the option set to exclude sources where the primary person is someone else. If that doesn’t seem correct you can share a link to the Ancestry profile and I will take a look.

postedbyRob Pavey

I am tech ingnorant. WikiTree Sourcer has been working for me using Mozilla and Family Search for about a year. It worked yesterday. Today WikiTree Sourcer doesn't recognize a Family Search profile page to extract data. I have tried restarting my HP computer. Reopening my Family Search account and WikiTree but when I click the extension while on this profile:https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/KC6H-WFR

I still get this pop up when I open the extension so I can extract data:

WikiTree Sourcer doesn't know how to extract data from this page.

It looks like a FamilySearch page but not a record, image or person page. Sometimes this is because you are no longer logged into FamilySearch. If that may be the case try reloading this page and see if it asks you to login.

Sometimes this is because the page had not finished loading when you clicked the extension icon. If that may be the case try clicking the extension icon again.

What should I do???

postedbySusan (Kimes) Burgess
editedbySusan (Kimes) Burgess

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
It is not you, it is FamilySearch :)

They changed their person profile URLs which stopped Sourcer from working. I have released Sourcer version 2.8.1 which has a fix. It is available for Firefox but it will be a day or two before Chrome and Safari approve it for release.

postedbyRob Pavey

Wissinger-5
Robert Wissinger
It doesn't work for me at all...................no place to even get it started.
Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Could you give more detail? What doesn't work for you? Do you have a link to a page that doesn't work?

postedbyRob Pavey

The other day FS app was acting awful, finally a agreement page popped up and everything worked again 😔
Hi Rob,

In the last few days I have spotted some strange behaviour when creating census tables. This happens using both Find My Past and Ancestry. As an example this was output...

Name Relation Status Sex Age Occupation Birth Place
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Arthur [Fitzgerald] Kinnard Visitor M 14 London, England
Rt Honbm Sammie Sulivan Brother-in-law M 71 East Indies, Calentta, East Indies, India
Mary Sulivan Niece F 41 London, England
Charlotte Sulivan Niece F 36 London, England
Rt Hon Wm CowperSon-in-lawM40St George Hanover Square, London, England
[Georgina] Camper Daughter-in-law F 39 Buckinghamshire, England
Honbm Evelyn Ashley Grandson M 24 Grosmont, London, England
... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Six people have been cut off at the top (including the head of the household) and 24 below the list showing. This is the page it is taken fromhttps://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/8767/records/8067946Thanks

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Hi Susan,

This is by design to avoid creating huge tables for hotels and institutions. It is controlled by these options under "Household Tables > General"

Maximum number of people to include in a table:

If the max is exceeded and selected person is related to the head:

If the max is exceeded and selected person is not related to the head:

Check your settings for those options and let me know if it doesn't appear to be working correctly.

postedbyRob Pavey
editedbyRob Pavey

Thanks, Rob. I've found the setting. I set mine to 20 people (at some stage, not just now), but it only extracted 7, starting two positions below the head. Is it because there is a visitor between the initial couple and relatives? Is that confusing it?

These are my settings:Include only people related to head (up to max limit) plus others up to limitInclude the head plus selected person plus the people before and after up to limit

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
It kicks in if the record has more than the max limit number. That record has 37 people.

So with that option it *should* include all the related people but for some reason it doesn't seem to be doing that. I will add it to my list to look at.

postedbyRob Pavey

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
I have looked into this and it is a tricky one. Sometimes census records have a non-family member (like a lodger) followed by someone with "relation to head" of "son" and it means he was the son of the lodger. So in this case it thinks that Rt Honbm Wm Camper is the son-in-law of Arthur [Fitzgerald] Kinnard. It seems hard to handle all cases.

In this case you could set the max to 40 to avoid the problem

postedbyRob Pavey
editedbyRob Pavey

Young-43998
Martin Young
Hi, I love WikiTree Sourcer and have been using it for over a year. I mainly use it to extract persons and sources from Family Search.

It used to fill in the marriage details when you added the spouse after the initial person provided the marriage date and place was included in the couple relationship on FamilySearch.

It now no longer picks up this information and you have to add it manually.e.g. I just added Edwards-47936 after previously adding Croxford-300 both using WikiTree Sourcer fromhttps://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GNKJ-JZH andhttps://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G3SB-TD9 respectively.

I've left Edwards-47936 as it has been created and you can note it did not pick up the marriage info from FamilySearch i.e. 1889Croydon, Surrey, England, United Kingdom

As I create many WikiTree profiles of couples and their children it would be good to have the automatic loading of marriage info from FamilySearch restored.

regards,

Martin

postedbyMartin Young

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Hi Martin,

I'm not seeing that issue when I try it myself. This is what I did:1. Went tohttps://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G3SB-TD9 and used Sourcer to to Save Person Data2. Went tohttps://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Croxford-300, clicked Edit tab and Add/Remove Spouse3. Clicked "Create a new profile for her spouse"4. Used Sourcer to do "Set Fields from Person Data"5. Pressed Continue until I got to the "Details of the marriage" page. Everything looks correct here.

I did not advance beyond that as I do not want to create a duplicate.If you do those steps do you not see the details of the marriage filled in?

Cheers,Rob

postedbyRob Pavey

Young-43998
Martin Young
Rob,

thanks for your reply. I do steps 1,2,3,4 as you describe. The marriage info does not complete, i.e. the fields are empty. Pressing continue per step 5 does not bring me to a "Details of Marriage page" but to list of possible existing wikitree duplicates to select or indicate "none of these". I have made screenshots but don't know how to get them to you. my email is [email address removed] if that helps.

Martin

postedbyMartin Young

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Hi Martin, are you using any other browser extensions that might be modifying the WikiTree add person pages?

To get to the marriage details you have to select Continue and then "None of these is a match". You should then see the marriage details page.

However if you use the WikiTree Browser Extension "Add Person Redesign" option then the marriage details will show up on the first page.

I have tried both scenarios and the marriage details get filled in correctly by Sourcer for me.

postedbyRob Pavey

Young-43998
Martin Young
Rob,

Firstly I deleted all cookies and cache from Chrome Browser.I was using WikiTree Browser extension (Preview) with Add person redesign. I tried turning off Add Person redesign. Still no marriage details. I tried turning off completely the WikiTree Browser extension, and that did then populate marriage. Unfortunately I use many features of WikiTree Browser Extension, so I thought maybe the problem was that I was using the Preview version, so I turned off Preview and turned on normal WikiTree Browser Extension, with Add Person redesign. No marriage details. Tried just turning off Add person redesign. No marriage details. Tried turning off completely all of WikiTree Browser extension and also Preview completely off, and now marriage details poulate.

It must be something to do with either WikiTree Sourcer options or WikiTree Browser Extension options but i can't figure out which. Any other suggestions?

Martin

postedbyMartin Young

Young-43998
Martin Young
Rob,

I tried messing with WikiTree Browser Extension and it turns out if I turn on the "Other" section in options, the marriage info no longer populates. However with all options on (and default options within sub options) except for "Other" and "Community (which I don't use)" turned off, the marriage stuff will populate OK.

Not sure what could be causing problem from within "Other" section.

Martin

postedbyMartin Young

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
I will put it on my list to take a look at. My first guess is that the WBE is changing the structure of the WikiTree page so that Sourcer doesn't find the marriage details fields, so it can't populate them.

postedbyRob Pavey

Young-43998
Martin Young
Rob, thanks..

I am running OK now.It works fine now with all the "Other" options turned off.I can live with it for now so no hurry.I only previously used a few Other options anyway, regarding Connections and Categories.Martin

postedbyMartin Young

Sorry Rob, another issue. For the past three weeks or so, attempting to create a reference from a FreeBMD marriage page works *sometimes* - for example, if I go tohttps://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?cite=IKGqjUFsmKIYxawB5YChoA&scan=1 I'm told "WikiTree Sourcer doesn't know how to extract data from this page.". Reloading the page sometimes works, but often it's a dozen or so reloads before it does. I realise intermittent issues are a nightmare, if you can't reproduce I'm happy to wade into the state in the console if you can steer me. Plugin 2.8.0, latest Safari on latest macOS and no other plugins enabled.
Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
I have has a few reports in the last few days about issues with Sourcer on Safari. It sounds like something may have changed in the latest version of Safari. I am currently running macOS Sonoma with Safari 17.4.1. It sounds like I may have to upgrade to the latest macOS to try to reproduce this.

postedbyRob Pavey

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
I'm not sure if it is an issue with FreeBMD and Safari where the page doesn't load correctly sometimes or if it is anything to do with Sourcer.

postedbyRob Pavey

Smith-95244
Mark Smith
Here is a bit more info on the issue. I am using a iMac from 2019 with the latest version of Safari, but, will upgrade to a MacMini this week. Two of the profiles it is not working on is:https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brown-7529 orhttps://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Warner-814.

It is actually not working on any WT page that I try to access.

postedbyMark Smith

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Rob Pavey
Hi Mark,

I'm not able to reproduce this. I am using Safari Version 17.4.1 and macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224) on a MacBook Pro from 2023.Has it ever worked for you on this Mac?I'm not getting reports from anyone else about issues on Safari so it sounds like a problem specific to your setup.When do you get this error? Is it when you click on the [1] icon in the tool bar? Did it ask you about permissions the first time you did this?Let me know if you still have this issue when you get your macMini.As a fallback, you can use it in Chrome or Firefox on your mac.Cheers,Rob

postedbyRob Pavey

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Mark Smith
Rob, it seems to be working on my new Mac Mini. Not sure what changed but thanks for getting back to me.

postedbyMark Smith

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Mark Smith
Hi Rob,

I just downloaded WikiTree Sourcer to try it out and get the below error message. I am running the latest MacOS Sequoia 15.2.

Thanks for the help! Mark


Unexpected error!

Could not get active tab. There may be a problem with extension permissions.

Please report this issue in a comment on theWikiTree Sourcer free space pageor send a private message toRob Pavey.Please include details of the message above, which browser/device and extension version it occurred on and a link to the web page that it occurred on.

The extension version is 2.8.0

User Agent InfoMozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/18.2 Safari/605.1.15

postedbyMark Smith

Hope ok to ask here (GREAT app btw!!)

Is there a way when pulling sources off of FamilySearch for burials that we could have the source have the cemetery name added too

Here is an example (https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/LCZ7-ZWS) -this is what is on FamilySearch and is one of Ada's sources...NameAda Elizabeth Nance WagesBirth Date23 Oct 1878Death Date01 May 1952Event TypeBurialEvent PlaceCool Branch, Fairfield, South Carolina, United States of AmericaCemeteryCool Branch Baptist Church CemeteryPhotograph IncludedYNoteContains Biography

This is what comes up (below) when i "Build Citations" -note that it does not name the "cemetery", it just names the "Event Place"(would be great if it did both :) )This is the outputAda Elizabeth Nance Wages died on 1 May 1952 and was buried in Cool Branch, Fairfield, South Carolina, United States.<ref>Burial:"Find a Grave Index"

citing record ID 17152794,Find a Grave

FamilySearch Record:QVVG-NP36 (accessed 4 January 2025)

Find A Grave:Memorial #17152794

Ada Elizabeth Nance Wages burial (died on 1 May 1952) in Cool Branch, Fairfield, South Carolina, United States of America. Born on 23 Oct 1878.</ref>

If I go directly to the source the app will add the cemetery name(but if I could get right off FamilySearch (when added) with rest of sources would be great)

Ada Elizabeth Wages was mentioned on a memorial at Cool Branch Baptist Church Cemetery, Cool Branch, Fairfield County, South Carolina, United States with a death date of 1 May 1952.<ref>Memorial:Find a Grave (has image)

Find A Grave:Memorial #17152794 (accessed 4 January 2025)

Memorial page for Ada ElizabethNance Wages (23 Oct 1878-1 May 1952), citing Cool Branch Baptist Church Cemetery, Cool Branch, Fairfield County, South Carolina, USA; Maintained by Corky (contributor 46841856).</ref>

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Katie Fuller

postedbyKatie Fuller
editedbyKatie Fuller

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Rob Pavey
I see the same issue. I will take a look at what is happening with that record.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Rob Pavey
This is fixed for the next release. The issue was the lack of "www." on the start of the URL.

postedbyRob Pavey

When I visit my local Family Search Center I can use my personal Ancestry account or ancestryinstituton.com through the portal. Source will create citations with no problem when I m on my personal account, however when I go through the institution account I get this:

WikiTree Sourcer doesn't know how to extract data from this site

Dost it have something to do with the domain name?

postedbyJohn Stewart

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Rob Pavey
Yes, it is because of the domain name.

Sourcer does support ancestrylibrary.com. Does that work at your FSC?

I have not heard of ancestryinstitution.com before.

postedbyRob Pavey

Rob,

It looks like ancestryinstitution.com is what the LDS Church has for use through their portal at local Family Search Centers. (Formerly Known as Family History Centers) The are literally hundreds, if not thousands of them around the world.

From what I can see, ancestrylibrary.com is what library's can get through Proquest like othe pay sites.

The is also Ancestryclassroom.com for K-12 schools.

found this:https://www.ancestryinstitution.com/loginand this:https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Ancestry-Institution

Would it be possible to add support for ancestryinstitution.com ? I can test.

I guess it might be worth having ancestryclassroom too. Would need to find a place to test, how hard could that be :-)

Thank You, John Stewart

postedbyJohn Stewart

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John Powers
Any idea when version 2.7.0 be available on the app store? I am running version 2.6.7 on Edge and it will presently not add sources to a newly created profile.

postedbyJohn Powers

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Rob Pavey
When you say the app store do you mean the Apple App store? Or the Chrome Web Store?

2.7.0 is available for Safari and Firefox now. Google are taking a long time getting to reviewing it for the Chrome Web Store. It should be soon but that could mean a couple of days.

I'm not sure if it will fix the issue you are talking about as I have not heard of that issue.

postedbyRob Pavey

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John Powers
I'm referring to the Chrome store. The problem I'm experiencing began Friday afternoon EST, Nov 1. Everything appears to work fine when I try to 'Save Person Data' but when I import those into the profile, none are brought over. I can add them one-at-a-time without issues, meaning open the individual source, save, import.

postedbyJohn Powers

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John Powers
Hi Rob,

I've checked with others in the Appalachian Project team and they are not having issues with 2.6.7. Could there be some sort of setting in Edge that got corrupted on my laptop that is preventing Sourcer from parsing the data correctly? It appears that when I select 'Save Person Data' it doesn't seem to be parsing through the FS profile having 15-20 sources like usual. It returns from the query very fast and I don't see it scrolling (a few seconds) on my screen like previously. Any thoughts?Thanks, John

P.S. It is some problem with Edge. I just tried using Chrome and do not have issues. Nevertheless, after creating several profiles without issues, I unexpectedly get a message that 'Sourcer has been corrupted' and asking if I want to attempt to restore it. Come to think of it, the same thing happened last week while using the Edge version. Any ideas why this may be happening? It's a first for me.

postedbyJohn Powers
editedbyJohn Powers

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Katie Fuller
I've spotted some errors in some Ancestry source citations, eg.https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Fuller-23013&errcode=saved#_note-1

The citation contains the line "Expression error: Unrecognised word "uk""

postedbyKatie Fuller

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Rob Pavey
It should be fixed in version 2.7.0. More details here :https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1810993/issue-with-wikitree-sourcer

postedbyRob Pavey

Improvement Dutch records.

The wiewaswie website and some others use the abbreviation BS. Using that on an English language page is not intended.Can the wiewaswie and openarch(ieven) sourcered be changed such that BS is -always- translated into Burgerlijke Stand ?

Michel

Any update to remove the BullShit abbreviation?
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Rob Pavey
It is implemented in 2.7.1. In the source titles it will use things like"Burgerlijke Stand Overlijden"

postedbyRob Pavey

I notice that most citations created by Sourcerer use HTML entities and not strings.

For example & is generated as &This is oke for normal display but unexpected behaviour in the text field of the bio. It also is causing issues when the bios are used to scrape data from them.

In Python an unescape can solve this:https://docs.python.org/3/library/html.htmlNo idea how to do this in js.Example page:https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kelfkens-57

Michel

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Rob Pavey
I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying here. I looked at the example page. Are you talking about text like: "child of Cornelis Johannes Kelfkens & Charlotta Cornelia Pidou"?

I'm not sure how that would cause any issues.

postedbyRob Pavey

Is is not & but ;amp&

those HTML entities cause issues with the automatic scripts that depend on UTF-8 formatting, as ; is a disallowed character in URLs.

It is also not suggested to use html entities in WikiTree text, you should use the basic Wikipedia code to format, not HTML entities.

I am trying to have my scripts not break on these URLs, but it is hard.

Michel

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Rob Pavey
Sorry I still don't understand what you are talking about. Could you give an example of something specific that Sourcer generated and how it was generated?

postedbyRob Pavey

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Rob Pavey
OK I think I have figured out what you mean. As far as I can tell this has nothing to do with Sourcer. If you look at this change:https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Kelfkens-57&diff=205269022&oldid=205268981

It looks like it was added manually. Or possibly something like AutoBio added it?

postedbyRob Pavey
editedbyRob Pavey

Another example ishttps://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Weerd-12

The big changeset is this:https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Weerd-12&diff=191801598&oldid=191801233

So your idea is that this is WBE and not sourcerer?

This is another change set that might show that is indeed not Sourcerer.

https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Dalmeijer-23&diff=175928432&oldid=175900098

Is it correct that the left is produced originally by Sourcer, but then the right is another extension?

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Rob Pavey
Yes, I think the conversion of & to ;amp& was done by the AutoBio feature of WBE. I believe Ian has a fix coming.

postedbyRob Pavey

Is it correct there is no issue management at GitHub?
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Rob Pavey
Correct. I don't have that enabled for the project. I may in the future. My fear is that working on Sourcer will feel too much like a corporate job if I do so. I spent my whole career developing software and now I have retired and do it as a hobby and enjoy the freedom of working on what I want to work on. On the other hand using GitHub issues might provide a more organized system than my current mixture of text files, FSPs and Discord discussion.

postedbyRob Pavey

443 replies here already does look like a full helpdesk and job ;)
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Alan Purchase
I get the message “WikiTree Sourcer initializing menu …” when I click on the Sourcer icon while I am working on a 1921 Census entry from Findmypast. This is the entry in questionhttps://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC%2F1921%2FRG15%2F05188%2F0475%2F01&tab=this

and I was trying to build a citation for Walter J Hill but didn’t get that far.

I was able to do build citations from 1921 Census entries in the past.

I am using version 2.6.2.

postedbyAlan Purchase

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Rob Pavey
Thanks for letting me know. It looks like I introduced a bug in 2.6.2 that stopped it working on this record. I have fixed it in 2.6.3 which should be available soon.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Raymond Johnson
I checked a few links that I had added to people in my tree by Sourcer (only a few) and instead of going to the Ancestry page as before, they linked to Ancestry at a page that invited me to join. Have they done something at Ancestry to cause it to no longer go directly to the citation?

Should I worry that all of the links are now accessible only to people with Ancestry accounts. I had used Source to (hopefully) make that unnecessary. I would need to redo many links if it no longer works.

Thanks in advance.

postedbyRaymond Johnson

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Rob Pavey
Ancestry made a change a few days ago that changes the URL for some records. This prevented Sourcer from creating the correct Ancestry Record template. See this G2G post for details:https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1793724/problem-with-wt-sourcer-and-ancestry

The issue is fixed in Sourcer version 2.5.2.

The Ancestry Sharing Links were not affected as far as I know - those are the ones that let non-subscribers view images on Ancestry.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Paul Masini
I have recently tried using Sourcer to search BillionGraves but it looks like it is not passing across all the search parameters, for example the death year and death tolerance.

The search string submitted by Sourcer is in the formhttps://billiongraves.com/search/results?CollectionID=&CatalogID=&PageNumber=1&PageSize=20&GivenNames=Isaac&FamilyName=Woodford&EventDeathYear=1944&EventDeathYearRange=2&Country=United%20Kingdom

When I manually enter the death year and death tolerance it becomeshttps://billiongraves.com/search/results?cemetery_country=United%20Kingdom&given_names=Isaac&family_names=Woodford&death_year=1944&year_range=2&size=15

It appears to me that the names BillionGraves uses for the search fields must have changed.

postedbyPaul Masini

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Rob Pavey
Sorry, I missed this comment. I will take a look for the next release.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Aaron Gullison
Merge edit has stopped working for me. I have version 2.4.2

postedbyAaron Gullison

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Rob Pavey
Thanks. I will take a look. Do you have more detail? Like what source page you were using?

postedbyRob Pavey

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Rob Pavey
Never mind. I see the problem. Thanks for reporting it.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Rob Pavey
I have fixed this in version 2.4.3. It may take a day to show up in the Chrome and Safari stores.

postedbyRob Pavey

I am seeing an issue with wikitree sourcer and Find A Grave. It looks like they may be testing or rolling out a new page layout. On some of these new layouts the plugin fails to work.

Fails on this page.https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/39056373/absolom_liller

But works on this one.https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/187555477/penelope_liller

WikiTree Sourcer version is: 2.4.0

postedbyBrian Walsh

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Rob Pavey
Hi Brian, I have a fix ready to go for that in the next release of Sourcer. It is the new sponsored memorials that are not working,

postedbyRob Pavey

Thanks. All good now.

A Find a grave suggestion.

Is it possible to have the sourcer detect if there is Photo type: Grave? If there is no photo type grave then have the source citation say no image instead of has image if there is just any image type? I manually change my source lines to no image if it contains images but none of them are of a memorial. Sometimes I probably forget to do that.

postedbyBrian Walsh

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Rob Pavey
I don't see any way on the Find A Grave page to tell if a photo is of a grave. Maybe there is some API that could do it but it doesn't seem to be in the HTML of the record page.

postedbyRob Pavey

It does look like there is a value that tells if there is a photo type grave in var findagrave

intermentHasPhoto: "true"

Or the photos array value in var findagrave has a type: Grave for one of the photos.

I would guess intermentHasPhoto is set to true if there is a type Grave photo. I just did a quick look at the two links above and a couple other memorials.

postedbyBrian Walsh

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Rob Pavey
It looks like that is fairly new. I have a bunch of saved FG pages in my regression tests and they do not have that value. I can add that check but it is possible that some citations will no longer have "(has image)" when they used to.

I don't normally try to parse scripts on pages - normally just work off the HTML.

postedbyRob Pavey

Understood. I am just looking at this for the first time now.

It is also in the html. For each photo there is a "Photo type:"

Or back to the variable in the photos array there is a total number of photos.

photos: {"__typename":"PhotoInfo","total":0


Maybe it is just me with this understanding. I take the has image to mean it has an image of the memorial and not some random photo.

Thanks for looking into this.

postedbyBrian Walsh

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Rob Pavey
That looked promising. But on this example:https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/29093226/john-smith

There is no grave photo but the #photoT-g input element is checked.So possibly the script method is required. I note that in the search results:https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/search?firstname=john&middlename=&lastname=smith&birthyear=&birthyearfilter=&deathyear=1930&deathyearfilter=&location=&locationId=&memorialid=&mcid=&linkedToName=&datefilter=&orderby=r&plot=&page=5#sr-79690649It does say "No grave photo" for this person.

postedbyRob Pavey
editedbyRob Pavey

That looks like that is part of the photo upload input and not the right value to check.

<input type="radio" name="photoType-2" value="Grave" checked="checked" >

<label for="photoT-g">Grave</label></div>

<div>

<input type="radio" name="photoType-2" value="Person">

<label for="photoT-p">Person</label></div>

<div>

<input type="radio" name="photoType-2" value="Family">

<label for="photoT-f">Family</label></div>

<div>

<input type="radio" name="photoType-2" value="Other">

postedbyBrian Walsh
editedbyBrian Walsh

Hi Rob, I've been having some issues lately with using Sourcer on the LAC site (Library & Archives Canada). When I follow a direct link to any census page and try to use Sourcer from there, I get an error "WikiTree Sourcer could not interpret the data on this page.". But, if I use LAC's search function to find the census page again, then Sourcer works from that page.

For example, I previously used Sourcer to create source citations from the 1871 census forUrbain Goguen. If I follow the direct link (https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?idnumber=39358735&app=census) and try to use Sourcer from there, it won't work. But, If Isearch for the same record again, Sourcer works from that page (https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=39358735&ecopy=4396319_00071).

The same thing happens for all the census pages I've tried, not just the 1871 census.

Would you be able to look into this when you get a chance?Thank you very much!Valerie

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Rob Pavey
Hi Valerie, thanks for reporting this. I have a fix and it will be in the next release.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Chris Whitten
Hi Rob,

I am consistently struck by how many members in the Member of the Week interview say that their favorite feature or function is the WikiTree Sourcer. (For this week: it'sSuzanne Lowe.)

Bravo, and thank you!

Chris

postedbyChris Whitten

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Rob Pavey
Thanks Chris. I keep working on it to try to make it better.

postedbyRob Pavey

Hi! Creating Citations for all sources on Ancestry Sources was working beautifully until two days ago for me. Suddenly it no longer appears on my app.

I can do them one at a time on the source page.When I have 15-20 sources, this is very tedious.I reinstalled 3 times. I had HP test reload Edge. Then I reinstalled the app and Sourcer.Did the program change?Anyone else having the issue?Thank you.

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Rob Pavey
I’m traveling at the moment so I can’t work on this. But several people have reported that Build All Citations is not working on Ancestry. I can’t tell yet whether this is due to an Ancestry change or a change I made in the extension. I will take a look when I’m home on Tuesday.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Rob Pavey
It turned out that this was caused by a change that Ancestry made to their person profile pages.

I have updated WikiTree Sourcer. The fix is in version 2.3.7. It may take a day or two to be available from all web stores.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Loralee Hutton
Hello Rob,

Census Household Tables have been acting unusually for me. I'm using the Chrome extension. When there is a very long table it seems to be abbreviating it, or adding elipses to one line a few lines above the person I'm focused on for that page. (It seems to behaving the same in Ancestry & Familysearch.) That's a bit confusing, so let me use an example. The 1841 census for Charles West in Northampton, Northamptonshire.

The census can be found for this household here:Familysearch: (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7QC-R38)Ancestry: (https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/8858150:8978)

There are 21 people in the census record (he ran a grammar school and was the Clergyman). However, only 4 people show up in the table (as seen below).

6 Jun 1841: All Saints Church, Middleton Cheney, Northamptonshire
Name Sex Age Occupation Birth Place
... ... ... ... ...
Elizabeth Burnabe F 20 Northamptonshire
Charles West M 40
Eleanor West F 35
Caroline West F 25

When I review "extracted data" from the debugger I see all of the entries.

It's not happening every single time, which is even more confusing. For example, this record for Maria Woodford in 1861 works fine.https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/15771143:8765?ssrc=pt&tid=79171525&pid=40400768109

Thanks for taking a look.

Loralee

postedbyLoralee Hutton

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Rob Pavey
There is an option for this under Household Tables. You can set the max number of entries

postedbyRob Pavey

Hello Rob, Using the latest version of Firefox and new improved FamilySearch Wikitree Sourcer sometimes is prevented from functioning. My experience of new improved FamilySearch assures me it is not Wikitree Sourcer that is malfunctioning. I was first logged in via Facebook when new improved FamilySearch failed with Sourcer. Then I logged out and signed in with my user id and password to new improved FamilySearch but it continued to malfunction with Sourcer. The page which malfunctioned washttps://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJLG-FRP. I shall now see if this category of new improved FamilySearch malfunctioning happens with Sourcer using Chrome.

postedbyEdwin Reffell

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Rob Pavey
That page is working OK for me in Firefox. I'm not sure what you mean by the improved FamilySearch. Maybe you are seeing a different new lokk in FS that I am not.

postedbyRob Pavey

I think they recommend Chrome so i switched to that. Chrome works so i shall stick to Chrome for FamilySearch.

postedbyEdwin Reffell

Hi Rob,

I am using Firefox version 2.3.6 and its not working on this page:https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/KL6H-PCS

Thought that might help.

Thank you for your work on this.

postedbyBob Land

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Rob Pavey
It is working for me. Have you reloaded the page? If that doesn't work try restarting Firefox.

If still not working please let me know what it is doing? Is it getting an error message when you bring up the menu?

postedbyRob Pavey

Hi Rob,

I tried it on another computer (Windows, Firefox) and it did not work. However, I tried it on edge on the new version 2.3.6 and it worked fine. On Firefox, it does some sort of count down where it is retrying multiple times and can't get the sources (I did Save Person Data from both Sources and Details screen on FS). Not sure what's up with Firefox. I will just use Edge for now and export my stuff from WBE and import to Edge.

Thank you!

postedbyBob Land

Hi, Rob!

Newt here, going through the user guide. I have yet to try out Sourcer for myself but I have seen what it does. Thanks for the app, it makes gorgeous pages and the sources have much better detail.

I think I may have useful input on this thread: Firefox will allow me to sign in to FamilySearch but after that there is nothing but the spinning wheel of death. I have been getting this result for weeks now, and I can't actually get into my account. I think this is because Firefox and FamilySearch have decided not to speak to each other... Firefox has the pop-up permissions set correctly to allow the site to function, but it just is not cooperating.

Sourcer, on Firefox, can see my death-wheeling FamilySearch account (it recognizes that I am on a FamilySearch page but tells me it can't read it either) - it seems easiest fix is just to start using Edge for my research.

Thanks again for your wonderful app! I am going to enjoy using it once I've learned how.

Did 2.3.5 break importing from FamilySearch on Chrome? I don't know if it was the update or not, but it was working about an hour ago, and it suddenly doesn't recognize any FamilySearch pages.

postedbySimon Hova

I was just coming to ask the same thing. Works on Ancestry no problem but doesn't recognize FamilySearch. I also use Chrome.
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Miyako Jones
I was also coming here to ask about that. I use Firefox, though. I can still build a source citation from a FS record page, but it's hit-or-miss today (mostly miss) on it recognizing FS profile pages. I've been using the source info to fill in fields on the WikiTree new profile page as a workaround.

postedbyMiyako Jones
editedbyMiyako Jones

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Sherry Bartlett
Using "Brave". I absolutely love the WikiTree Sourcer. I was working on the profile forHannah Bartlett (1774-1842) which matches information for Family Search profile 28YJ-HQ8 Hannah Bartlett.https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/28YJ-HQ8 .

While checking for sources on Family Search, found this about 10 minutes ago:

WikiTree Sourcer [1]

"WikiTree Sourcer doesn't know how to extract data from this page.

It looks like a FamilySearch page but not a record, image or person page. Sometimes this is because you are no longer logged into FamilySearch. If that may be the case try reloading this page and see if it asks you to login.

Sometimes this is because the page had not finished loading when you clicked the extension icon. If that may be the case try clicking the extension icon again.

Show Citation Assistant

Edit Citation...

Buy me a coffee...

Options... (opens in new tab)

Help..."

postedbySherry Bartlett
editedbySherry Bartlett

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Rob Pavey
The problem was caused by a change to the FamilySearch website.

I have released a new version (2.3.6) which should hopefully fix the issue. It will take some time to be reviewed for Chrome and Safari before it is available. It is available now for Firefox.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Rob Pavey
Thanks. Others have reported this issue too. It look like FamilySearch have changed something so that Sourcer no longer works on some FS pages. I am trying to find a way to make Sourcer work again.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Katie Fuller
I just got an error message on Findmypast too:

The content script did not respond. Cannot initialize the WikiTree Sourcer menuError: Could not establish connection. Receiving end does not exist.

This was on a 1921 census transcript page.

postedbyKatie Fuller

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Rob Pavey
I have a possible fix that I am working on so I may be able to push an update soon. When I do it may take a day or two to make it to the Chrome store.

postedbyRob Pavey

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Kathryn Morse
I'll chime in. I use Microsoft Edge and can't use the Sourcerer on Family Search.

postedbyKathryn Morse

Chiming in to add my "me, too."

I'm using Chrome on a Mac. It seems to work sometimes, if I reload the Family Search page enough times.

Since this morning, building individual citations seems to be working, though building all citations from the profile page doesn't.

Hey Rob,

Love WikiTree Sourcer and feel so blessed that we have people like you that make our lives so much easier.

I have an issue, which I have probably created myself. If I am on Family Search and make a request to build all citations, I get a comment "An error occurred getting sources." I can build a narrative with a citation on each source individually.

On Ancestry I have no problem on my request to build all citations.

Please tell me what have I done now?????

Cheryl Smith Hess (Smith-159364)

By the way I use Firefox.

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Rob Pavey
Hi Cheryl,

Thanks for adding the browser that you use. I had another report of this issue where the user was using the Brave browser but it worked when they switched to Firefox. So this is different.

One question, has Build All Citations worked for you before in Firefox? I.e. is this a new problem that just started happening?


Does it happen on all FamilySearch profiles?

Possible things to try:- reload the FS page, make sure you are logged in to FS

- try the Sources tab of the FS profile rather than the details tab

- close Firefox and reopen it.

Let me know if any of those help.

postedbyRob Pavey
editedbyRob Pavey

Hi Rob,

I will answer your questions first-

Build All Citations did work for me before in Firefox? This was a new problem that just started happening. It was happening on all FamilySearch profiles.

I did everything you asked me to do, including deleting the extension and reloading it.

Everything is working perfectly now.

Thanks so much for all of your help. This is a great app. Saves a lot of my time.

If I owe you coffee, or chocolate, let me know.

Cheryl

Hi Rob,

It seems that the Firefox version is not working for me on this page or the other people linked her. I uninstalled and reinstalled (after backing up the settings). Not sure what is up. I tried Save Person Data and it grabbed the information about the person, but not the sources.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GMDN-B57

BTW, I did not reinstall my options after reinstalling the app. I figured i would check with the default settings but it did not work. This is all on Firefox. It works fine on Edge, though. I also tried the Build Sources option, but that didn't work either. In both cases there seemed to be a "retry 1, retry 2, retry 3" count.

Thank you. Loving the app!!!

postedbyBob Land
editedbyBob Land

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Rob Pavey
Hi Bob,

I just tried that page in Chrome and Firefox. It seems to be working correctly for me. It may be your option settings.If you do "Build All Citations" does it save the sources to the clipboard?If that works, it suggests that you don't have the option turned on to automatically build the citations.

If you are doing Save Person Data in order to add a new person to WikiTree then check this option:

Add/Merge -> Add Person -> Automatically do "Build All Citations" during "Save Person Data" (if site supports it) and include the citations in the biography when doing "Set Fields from Person Data"

If you are doing Save Person Data in order to update an existing WikiTree profile using Merge/Edit then check this option:

Add/Merge -> Merge Edit -> Automatically do "Build All Citations" during "Save Person Data" (if site supports it) and include the citations in the biography when doing "Merge Edit from Person Data"

I hope that helps.

postedbyRob Pavey
editedbyRob Pavey

Hi Rob,

I checked all of those options (they weren't checked), but it still doesn't work and I get a countdown about Retry 1, Retry 2, Retry 3 and then it doesn't work on this page.https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/LDMT-Z46

It's working on Edge, though.


Thank you for the help.

postedbyBob Land
editedbyBob Land

Spring-570
Clare Spring
Hi Rob from a new 'Sourcer' user.

Wow! What an wonderful invention - thank you so much!

I have been blasting through 'Needs' categories with a new vengeance since I have taken to the Victorian registration Sourcer citations in the last few days.

Congratulations on developing such a great tool.

Clare

postedbyClare Spring

Hello! Suddenly now when I add a new profile using the sourcer, I no longer get the line in the biography which includes the parents links and have had to manually add them. Additionally the asterisk is missing after the <references> notation. Did I inadvertently change something?
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Rob Pavey
The line that includes the parent links is controlled by an option on the Add/Merge tab, in the "Add Person" subsection, called "Create a birth/parentage line in the biography:". I don't think I have changed this recently. What is this option set to for you?

I'm not sure what you mean by "Additionally the asterisk is missing after the <references> notation". Are you using Set Fields from Person Data" or "Set Fields from Citation Data"? Either way, if it is adding source (non-inline) citations automatically it will insert an asterisk or each of them.

One change I did make was that it now automatically puts the last page of the Add Person flow into "advanced sourcing mode". So if your normal flow was:

- In your WikiTree Settings you have Advanced Sourcing turned off

- You are using "Set Fields from ..." and you have the default options - so it doesn't automatically Build All Citations or insert the citation automatically

- You are manually typing in your own source on the final page of the Add person flow

Then it is true that WikiTree will no longer add a * before the citation that manually typed in.

postedbyRob Pavey
editedbyRob Pavey

Thanks, Rob. Everything was turned off under the Add Person subsection. I have added that portion back. This is the first time I've ventured in, didn't know you could! Since it happened 2-3 days ago does this coincide with anything you did?

I am unfamiliar with some terms and formats, a novice. The * always appeared after the <references/> notation when I would add a new person's information using the sourcer. I would remove it if I was adding citations with narrative, so don't need it.

Thanks for pointing this out and I can try a few different things.

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Rob Pavey
I see now what changed. I made a change in Sourcer 2.3.3 that may explain what you are seeing.

More details in the G2G question:https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1746005/bio-auto-generate-parent-links-not-working

postedbyRob Pavey

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Robert Sundquist
I tried to get a sourcer menu on MyHeritage but got this message:

"It looks like a MyHeritage page but not a record page or peson page."Note the unconventional spelling of "person". But is there any page on MyHeritage where I can get data for a person? For examplehttps://www.myheritage.com/FP/edit-profile.php?s=49684311&indID=2000203&origin=family-tree gives me this message.

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Rob Pavey
Hi Robert,

I tried that link but it is to a person in a private tree so I cannot access it.However, I did try someone from my public tree (https://www.myheritage.com/profile-858706251-2000009/arthur-eli-pavey) and it looks like MyHeritage have changed the format of person pages and Sourcer no longer understands them. I will put a task on my list to revisit this. Thanks for letting me know.

postedbyRob Pavey
editedbyRob Pavey

WikiTree Sourcer has stopped showing the FreeCen and FreeBMD sites on profile pages. It still shows them when I go to a FamilySearch page. I can work around it by going directly to those sites, but that means taking the time to enter all the information. What happened to those sites? Could it be just on my computer?

Firefox on Windows 10.

postedbyAlan Philip

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Rob Pavey
I assume that you mean that it is not showing "Search FreeCEN (UK)..." or "Search FreeBMD (UK)..." on the profile page.

This can happen if the profile does not have a UK country shown in the Birth, Death of Marriage locations or if the profile dates are out of range for those sites. It could also happen if there are more possible search sites that fit on the menu (this limit is set by on option). Either way, you can work around it...

Try clicking on "Show All Search Sites...". This brings up a submenu. At the top it will show which dates and countries its filtering by on a yellow line. You can click on that yellow line and turn the filtering off to show all possible sites to search.

postedbyRob Pavey

Thank you. That was the problem - I did not have England after the county name in my GED import.

postedbyAlan Philip

Fiordalisi-11
Anne Fiordalisi
I got an error on HathiTrust site on IMAC March 21 2024.. I tried to add this site to my sources.https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.c2993580&seq=26 It gave me an error.

the extension version is 2.2.4

User Agent InfoMozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/17.4 Safari/605.1.15

Error while Building Citation

addTerm@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/site/hathi/core/hathi_build_citation.mjs:66:14buildSourceReference@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/site/hathi/core/hathi_build_citation.mjs:72:10buildCoreCitation@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/site/hathi/core/hathi_build_citation.mjs:85:23simpleBuildCitationWrapper@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/base/core/citation_builder.mjs:570:20@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/base/browser/popup/popup_simple_base.mjs:96:70@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/base/browser/popup/popup_simple_base.mjs:86:71@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/base/browser/popup/popup_menu_building.mjs:629:21doAsyncActionWithCatch@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/base/browser/popup/popup_menu_building.mjs:624:39@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/base/browser/popup/popup_simple_base.mjs:86:25simplePopupBuildCitation@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/base/browser/popup/popup_simple_base.mjs:63:41@safari-web-extension://A7360DB5-F814-4026-BCBC-7CA7FF1FDC4E/base/browser/popup/popup_menu_building.mjs:1286:20

TYVM

postedbyAnne Fiordalisi

Pavey-429
Rob Pavey
Thanks. I have a fix for the next release.

postedbyRob Pavey


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