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    Mark Bauerlein, The Dumbest Generation Grows Up: From Stupefied Youth to Dangerous Adults, Regnery Gateway, 310 pp., $19.79. The Dumbest Generation Grows Up is Mark Bauerlein’s sequel to his bestselling 2009 book, The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future. Both books deal with Millennials, the generation usually defined...
  • @Cowboy
    Where are all the autist Z-lennial commenters that haunt this site? Here's the perfect opportunity for them to bash the Boomers for their condition.

    Replies: @Shitposter_in Chief, @Nomad girl

    Good point, they would not read this. Too long for them. If you could summarize in 10 sec tiktok video you my have got alike or share.

  • @Robert Dolan
    The real problem is jewbrain.

    Young people have been indoctrinated and they now think like jews....which means they are self hating idiotic anti-white lunatics.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Young people have been indoctrinated and they now think like jews….

    Like using contraception and not praying in schools.

  • As Winston Churchill supposedly said, “If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart, and if you are not a conservative when old, you have no brain.”

    That was said in France before Churchill was born, reportedly to Queen Victoria. If Churchill said it, he was just passing on an old joke, like Gen Patton with the “poor dumb bastard”.

  • @Cowboy
    Where are all the autist Z-lennial commenters that haunt this site? Here's the perfect opportunity for them to bash the Boomers for their condition.

    Replies: @Shitposter_in Chief, @Nomad girl

    Both generations are terrible for their own reasons.

    Boomers effectively inherited from their parents and are borrowing what their kids have to pay off, while being smug fucks about it

    Z-lennials are just pussies

  • Interesting article and perspectives, thanks, though it is disturbing to see these problems so clearly delineated. It strikes me that when I was a young man, the universities were hotbeds of rebellion. My generation found many flaws in the new empire that emerged (as planned) from the great wars of the previous decades, and there we learned about some possible correctives. Yet at the time, some elders saw our powerful liberation movements as sinister communist conspiracies, the same way that some now think alien Jews or Marxists (Marxists? Honestly, in the 21st century, seriously?) are ruining everything. Though we had different ideas about what to do, our criticism of the system was fundamentally the same as what many recognize today, that an illegitimate elite has hijacked the system, which no longer represents the interests of the American people.

    It seems self-evident that a certain segment benefits from neutering the threat to their power that higher education once was. It has clearly taken “woke” action to protect itself there, the same way it has dismantled workers’ rights, the social safety net, the financial and medical systems, the Bill of Rights itself – everything that it can get control of to stay at the top of the heap for one more day. It’s supremely ironic that this is exactly how that fellow with the bushy beard predicted capitalism would play out in its final stage. Always characterized by “creative destruction”, its creativity would become exhausted by its success, and nothing would be left but the anarchic anomie that is inherent in the blind drive to accumulate “surplus” capital above all other considerations.

    This isn’t fiendish commies or socialists trying to seize power: it’s our ruling class trying desperately to hold on to it. It now seems apparent that like so many before them, they have overplayed their hand, and sown so much division among us that we may very well become ungovernable. Ominously, the long overdue global rebellion against American imperialism, in which Russia is fighting the opening campaign, must produce unprecedented economic dislocation here. And we’ll be facing it as a divided people, conditioned by imitation liberals and con-men conservatives alike to fear and mistrust one another. It was neighbor helping neighbor, solidarity among working people, that allowed our people to survive the Great Depression, and which frightened the regime so badly that it had to give a great war to get them back under control.

    The fragile, narcissistic millennials, god bless ‘em, are what they are. But their children will be a lot more resilient than their parents had to be.

  • One reason for this, of course, is ignorance of history. Most Millennials can give you an exact figure of how many people weremurderedby the Nazis…

    Really? What does this mean? Murdered? I presume you are not being ironic?

    Or, do you mean, how many people were killed in WWII? I doubt few people in any age group would know that number, today. So it’s something else you mean. Right?

    I’m guessing you suggest that most Millennials can regurgitate the made-up and bogus six-million figure? Is that it?

    If that is your meaning, and by the way you framed your point (i.e., as a ‘fact’), I’d say you could use some additional schooling to include a refresher course on 1) the use of precision in language; and 2) conducting independent research on actual historical/forensic evidence about the possibility of just how many people Nazis could have ‘murdered’.

    As far as a generation with their heads in a screen? Social Media has turned everyone into an ‘isolated but connected’ crowd (in G. Le Bon’s sense). The psychology of the crowd is always bottom of the barrel.

    I generally don’t quote Hunter Thompson, for reasons, however he was certainly prescient about the cell-phone thing:In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.

    • Agree:HdC
  • Screen brain is everywhere. Young people enter a restaurant on a date, sit down, and promptly whip out the cellphones. What red-blooded young man would rather look at a screen than a girl?

  • @anyone with a brain
    I suggest reading the book Culture of Narcissism to get a grip on the culture.

    The most succinct way to summarise the problem is that the United States is the elites of the United States are neurotic, talentless whiny Jews,and the people emulate the elites.

    The youth of the upper classes are just as screen addicted and fragile as the youth of the lower classes. There is no mechanism to actually reward not behaving like a talentless whiny neurotic Jew. The youth see that most wealthy and successful are talentless whiny neurotic Jew and thus act like them.

    This is expected of a capitalist culture, where the size of one's back asking determines the power and esteem one has. This results in power and esteem going to the most exploitative people and those people are mostly Jews and all psychopathic narcissists.

    Replies: @meamjojo, @anyone with a brain

    where the size of one’s back asking determines the power and esteem one has

    meant to say

    where the size of one’s bank account determines the power and esteem one has

  • my son was born in 1994 and i insisted on home schooling him, because i wanted him to have an education rather than the indoctrination he would receive in public school. when he was six, his mother told me she was not happy homeschooling our son and wanted something more out of life. i told her i would love to home school my son and spend my time with him. so we reversed roles and she ran my business and i cooked, cleaned the home and most importantly educated my son, for eight years my ex-wife slowly ran the business into the ground but these were the best 8 years of my life and i told my self that this was my retirement (which turned out to be prophetic).

    as my son’s educator i immediately noticed that the first six years of mathematics were essentially identical, endlessly recycling addition, subtraction, multiplication and division (including remainders, yeah, remember those useless remainders, they taught you instead of decimals) wasting the most important years of education, when they are able to absorb knowledge like a sponge.

    i got him started on algebra when he was 9, he told me “dad i can’t do this, there’s letters instead of numbers!”, i told him think of the letters as numbers and the light came on, like a bulb above his head and he was off and running. he finished algebra in two years, geometry the next and after trigonometry he was on his own and left me in the dust.

    the kid was a prodigy, i never tested him on anything and i only asked one hour of directed study per day from him, as a result he never learned to hate education as most kids do, and spent the majority of his day on his studies, out of the sheer joy of learning.

    the first test he ever took was his entrance exam to st. petersburg college (fla), he missed one question on the exam and his examiners fell off their chairs when they saw the results and he received a full ride bright futures scholarship, full tuition and books to any state school in florida and my alma mata, u.s.f. was an excellent math school.

    this was the high point in my life, i felt totally vindicated in all of my beliefs, i had destroyed the u.s. militaristic industrial educational complex, singlehandedly and was repeatedly high fiveing myself in celebration, when, like icarus my wax wings melted as a 16 yo gretta thurnberg like harpie, snatched him out of the nest and programed my son to her liking taking control of my formerly free son, warping him to her liking.

    he went from a full paid scholarship at usf, to the shit ass university of tampa, an expensive private school that did not take his full scholarship and didn’t have a real math department, (as they are a liberal arts school), because she liked the cool minarets and felt that this was where she wanted to receive her nursing degree, lol. his math genius was sacrificed on the alter of her vanity.

    this and what had been done to his future, as a result, i can never accept, and as a result, i was cancelled (which i fully accept and will never apologize for). the best laid plans of mice and men…

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  • @anyone with a brain
    I suggest reading the book Culture of Narcissism to get a grip on the culture.

    The most succinct way to summarise the problem is that the United States is the elites of the United States are neurotic, talentless whiny Jews,and the people emulate the elites.

    The youth of the upper classes are just as screen addicted and fragile as the youth of the lower classes. There is no mechanism to actually reward not behaving like a talentless whiny neurotic Jew. The youth see that most wealthy and successful are talentless whiny neurotic Jew and thus act like them.

    This is expected of a capitalist culture, where the size of one's back asking determines the power and esteem one has. This results in power and esteem going to the most exploitative people and those people are mostly Jews and all psychopathic narcissists.

    Replies: @meamjojo, @anyone with a brain

    Dumb comment focused on Jews gets you added to my ignore list. Buh-bye.

  • I have always been an avid reader as a child. But the way schools handled literature turned me off it for good. Half a year spent on interpreting ‘Effi Briest’, half a year on ‘Die Weber’ etc..
    No Goethe or Schiller.
    I read this way later on my own to fill the gaps.
    Though Ulysses I threw away after 30 pages.
    Reading is important, but the real life, some hardship, not taking so many things for granted, working during the holidays etc. builds the necessary character and drive which these generations a so sorely lacking and prevents their hubris.

  • Where are all the autist Z-lennial commenters that haunt this site? Here’s the perfect opportunity for them to bash the Boomers for their condition.

    • Replies:@Shitposter_in Chief
    @Cowboy

    Both generations are terrible for their own reasons.

    Boomers effectively inherited from their parents and are borrowing what their kids have to pay off, while being smug fucks about it

    Z-lennials are just pussies

    ,@Nomad girl
    @Cowboy

    Good point, they would not read this. Too long for them. If you could summarize in 10 sec tiktok video you my have got alike or share.

  • Anonymous[770] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘the importance of the “Great Books”’

    Guillory’s Cultural Capital is a gimlet-eyed look at the cultural canon. It bounces Bourdieu off Durkheim to give an institutional analysis of the history of ideas.

    He sez, basically, that these bumfights over who makes the list reflect the commercial uselessness of college education. The last thing employers want is people thinking for themselves – they need trained seals who’ll do anything for attaboys. You can’t deny they’ve done a good job churning them out. From doctors, lawyers, economists on down, they’re taught slogans and algorithms. You have to treat doctors like you treat car salesmen. You have to fix lawyers’ work. There’s nothing you can do with economists but punch them in the face.

    So professors obsessively primp and preen a canon that nobody reads. And you, you poor bastard, you’re trying to give these labor inputs some resistance to brainwashing but they’re bred for brainwashing.

    May I ask, what are the class and status of your student body? From that generation, the biggest free-thinkers I know are of patrician background, with cursory contact with institutions of higher education. They got their habits of mind by osmosis.

  • anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    In the future, you will know nothing and you will be happy.

    cease being dumb only when it regards adolescence as an inferior realm of petty strivings and adulthood as a realm of civic, historical, and cultural awareness that puts them in touch with perennial ideas and struggles.”

    Whaaa, what does that even mean to people who never leave childhood emotionally and top out at a mental age of about 13-14? Most people never develop beyond high school. Today most of the tech and science is being done by immigrants, mostly from Asia. American youth spend all their time gazing into the mirror, taking endless selfies and indulging in the narcissism of things like Facebook. Why make any effort when one can get by playing patty-cake their whole life? Just drop the bomb already and be done with all these worthless lemmings. Like the extinct Dodo of the past, they have become too stupid and have lost the necessary instinct to survive.

  • I suggest reading the book Culture of Narcissism to get a grip on the culture.

    The most succinct way to summarise the problem is that the United States is the elites of the United States are neurotic, talentless whiny Jews,and the people emulate the elites.

    The youth of the upper classes are just as screen addicted and fragile as the youth of the lower classes. There is no mechanism to actually reward not behaving like a talentless whiny neurotic Jew. The youth see that most wealthy and successful are talentless whiny neurotic Jew and thus act like them.

    This is expected of a capitalist culture, where the size of one’s back asking determines the power and esteem one has. This results in power and esteem going to the most exploitative people and those people are mostly Jews and all psychopathic narcissists.

    • Agree:Dragoslav
    • Replies:@meamjojo
    @anyone with a brain

    Dumb comment focused on Jews gets you added to my ignore list. Buh-bye.

    ,@anyone with a brain
    @anyone with a brain


    where the size of one’s back asking determines the power and esteem one has
     
    meant to say

    where the size of one’s bank account determines the power and esteem one has
     
  • The humanities and social sciences must be shut down because they offer up the bullshit these idiots parrot as ‘education’. Once these snowflakes have no choice but attend a STEM college or find work in the real physical world, they will be spared the indoctrination the non STEM system espouses.

    Most aren’t intelligent enough to make it through an engineering curriculum and most have no such desire, preferring to become YouTube influencers, ball players or air head celebrities of some sort. It’s the school of hard knocks that they desperately need to clear out the shit for brains they currently function with.

    • Agree:HdC
  • Good article. Quite thesituation

  • The best lack all conviction, while the [woke]

    Are full of passionate intensity.

  • Super article!

    But the problem isn’t just the lack of reading the “Good Books’, it is the lack of reading in general, including newspapers and magazines. It is that their parents put them on a pedestal and their teachers do not push them, do not challenge them, likely because they fear for their jobs.

    What will happen to them in the future? As with all things in life, those stronger and usually smarter will take control of these minions who will mindlessly continue staring into and socially interacting through their cellphones.

    Hopefully, their sperm and eggs will be weak and few will successfully reproduce.

  • The real problem is jewbrain.

    Young people have been indoctrinated and they now think like jews….which means they are self hating idiotic anti-white lunatics.

    • Replies:@Reg Cæsar
    @Robert Dolan


    Young people have been indoctrinated and they now think like jews….
     
    Like using contraception and not praying in schools.
  • “Microagressions” were invented because white racism no longer exists and blacks had to have an issue to blame their failings on.

  • It goes without saying, the odiously ignoble troupe of societal misfits turned Marxist activists, commonly referred to as Social Justice Warriors (SJW), care naught about redressing the balance of an unfair world. If SJWs genuinely empathized with the impoverished working and impecunious lower classes, whose wages have been catastrophically depressed by decades of unfettered and...
  • @Alden
    @V

    “Mass of imbecile enthusiasm” that’s SJWs

    Replies: @V

    Hehe! I do wish it was all so humorous.

    The modern sjws of the wage slavery based multicult society almost certainly have their parallel in the chattel slavery based British colonial North America, particularly of the largely Puritan northeast. These were the ones of the everyday citizenry whom would observe the slave owners ‘doting’ upon their African slaves, naively deem it ‘goodly’, internalize it, and would then go on to do some of their own ‘doting’ upon these unfortunate persons. This would thus have the effect of enabling the slave owners, though like the vast majority of colonists these copycat doters probably didn’t own slaves themselves; chattel slavery was a practice put in place by diktat that was decidedly not in most colonists interest, which indeed they had to rather suffer from. This ‘doting’ of the slave owners of course did nothing to truly help the slave, or ameliorate the evil of it, as it was in reality all about the slave owners themselves attempting to improve their self worth in both their own eyes and the eyes of others. Of course, too, there is the cynical truism that the happy slave makes for the harder working slave, and the harder working slave makes for the more profitable slave. When one of their fellow colonial citizens, perhaps wisely recalling the Spartacus led slave revolt which came close to gutting the core of the Roman republic and bringing with it the downfall of the Empire, might have suggested that perhaps this chattel slavery thing was not such a good idea and should be put a stop to, these primordial sjws acting on their Puritanical zeal and fanaticism, and their heavy emotional attachment to this ‘doting’, likely would have shouted them down and perhaps even attempted to physically assault them for daring to have said such a thing, misguidingly perceiving it as an attack on both themselves and those that they dote upon.

    Speaking of wage slavery and the internalized doting thereof by the modern sjw we’re seeing a lot of that on display now with the literal hysteria surrounding the supposed comment made by Trump at the recent cabinet meeting. These sjw’s enable the wage slavery system.

    My suspicion is that it was the persons heavily involved in the marketing and merchandising of chattel slaves (the dealers) who grasped during the latter 18th century that themonetization of chattel slavery and its trade (wage slavery, ie ‘cheap labor’ so called) was a far more profitable and efficient way to go about systematically stealing an individual’s labor, and it was these chattel slave marketers who gave the impetus and likely financing to the ‘Abolition movement’ which did not in reality abolish truly ghastly slavery but rather merely smoothed the way for chattel slavery’s monetization and the introduction of the more virulent and destructive wage slavery system to the world, much in the same way that a deadly cancer metastasizes and then proceeds to spread throughout the body.

    ‘The slaves in Massachusetts were treated with almost parental kindness. They were incorporated into the family…’

    [MORE]

    As the reality of slavery in the North faded, and a strident anti-Southern abolitionism arose there, the memory of Northern slaves, when it surfaced at all, tended to focus on how happy and well-treated they had been, in terms much reminiscent of the so-called “Lost Cause” literature that followed the fall of the Confederacy in 1865.

    “The slaves in Massachusetts were treated with almost parental kindness. They were incorporated into the family, and each puritan household being a sort of religious structure, the relative duties of master and servant were clearly defined. No doubt the severest and longest task fell to the slave, but in the household of the farmer or artisan, the master and the mistress shared it, and when it was finished, the white and the black, like the feudal chief and his household servant, sat down to the same table, and shared the same viands.” [Reminiscence by Catharine Sedgwick (1789-1867) of Stockbridge, Mass.]

    Yet the petitions for freedom from New England and Mid-Atlantic blacks, and the numbers in which they ran off from their masters to the British during the Revolution, suggest rather a different picture.

    Early 19th century New Englanders had real motives for forgetting their slave history, or, if they recalled it at all, for characterizing it as a brief period of mild servitude. This was partly a Puritan effort to absolve New England’s ancestors of their guilt…

    http://slavenorth.com/

  • @Alden
    @SunBakedSuburb

    In addition to rental property and investments, Lizzie Borden’s Father was a money lender who charged high interest rates.

    That’s why the police suspected the murderer was one of Borden’s many victims and easily believed Lizzie’s alibi at first.

    Replies: @V

    Yes, Andrew Borden was supposed to have had many enemies. I do tend to think it was Lizzie that did the deed. Her burning that ‘paint stained’ dress a few days after the event against the advice of a friend who witnessed it is and was quite suspicious. And there was the report about her failed attempt to buy Prussic acid the day before the atrocity.

    The family overall seemed to be somewhat ‘dysfunctional’ as they would say today.

  • @Anon
    @Malla

    Figured out you were Bengali/Kayast a while back. A true casteist knows these things।।

    Replies: @Malla

    Your figuring out was only half correct. I am Kayastha but of U.P. ancestry (Mathurs, ancestors from Mathura)

  • It goes without saying

    The stuff that follows this refutes the statement, otherwise why say it, what purpose does this tired cliche serve other than to make the author look like an idiot who does not know the meaning of words?

  • @Anon
    Sri Bharata Ji of Ramayan remarks that any who impede Sri Hanuman Ji in his journey to save Sri Lakshman Ji should have the curse which is placed on a man who does not pay his servant।।

    Find this parallel in any other culture, then we'll talk।।

    It is the Guru's Hukam to make Bharat strong & bring Dharma Raaj to the whole world as people are suffering without it।।

    This shall be done।। http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/History_of_Guru_Nanak%27s_travel_to_Mecca#Karni_Nama

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Was that the journey to get the Himalayan herbs to save Lakshmana, when he passed near Shimla and rested at what is now Jakhoo Temple?

    I must say the Sikhs in India seem more peaceful than you do.

  • @Malla
    @Alden


    The priests and the family wanted to set up a shrine and develop a lucrative tourist/ pilgrimage trade.
     
    In India, many temples are richer than many corporations. V.S. Naipaul, the Nobel laureate of Indian descent but born in the Caribbean wrote in his first book on India, the land of his ancestors, 'India is a land of corrupt priests, rich temples and poor devotees'

    Replies: @anon

    All the temples are under gov control & looted to build churches||

  • @Alden
    @Anon

    You are Singh the Hindu extremist that wants to bring back Sati. Of course the mods block your comments.

    Replies: @Anon

    I’m a Sikh & what place does some christian kike slave have to comment on anything we do in our own lands?

    This is why you get mass immigration. you interfere & ‘educate’ the elites of other people creating a cultural similarity & then they bring the entire clan.

  • @Svigor

    During the period that Britain ruled over India, from roughly 1800 to roughly 1950, the population of India increased from 180 million to 400 million. Whenever someone claims that the British presence was to the detriment of Indians ask them to explain that fact, and don’t let them change the subject.
     

    Look at the economic growth during that period. It was stagnant for decades. The white population in Western countries is also increasing so how is multiculturalism or mass immigration to your detriment. Don’t change the subject
     
    If the current situation in the West reflected the situation in India in the period in question, I'd have a lot fewer problems with it. But the situation in the West does not at all reflect the situation in India in the period in question. Quite the opposite. Assuming the stats are correct (you didn't challenge them), Indians saw an enormous increase in population and a relatively tiny influx of White people. Native Westerners are seeing the opposite; very small increases in population size and a relatively huge influx of non-Whites.

    Britain made the church largest land owner in India
     
    I'm guessing there's an apples and oranges thing going on here. Were Indian religions or institutions legally constituted the same way as the Church? That is, was all the real estate owned by [native Indian religion or institution here] consolidated legally under one roof? This sounds like a mere cultural/legal difference. Which is not to say that an Indian has no right to complain about foreign religions intruding into their living spaces. Obviously they do have.

    To root for a just one section of humanity and disregard the rest is racism. You can call it what you like and you can feel free to abuse anyone.
     
    The word "abuse" seems misplaced here; the only way to make the first sentence work is to define "racism" as, at least, not a bad thing. Because there's absolutely nothing wrong, whatsoever, with rooting for just one section of humanity and disregarding the rest. Not that most "racists" even do that, mind you; for the vast majority, it's simply a matter of prioritizing their group first, everyone else second. This is normal human behavior. To characterize it as "abuse" or somehow wrong is misanthropic.

    To really look at your adversary and talk is to be human. It will enrich you. It matters not if you are are black, white yellow or brown.
     
    Indeed. This is one of the better reasons to utterly annihilate leftism.

    Bring all your people back from the americas & australia then preach about racism casteism dirty Melech।।
     
    Oh, I dunno. I think we've been in those places long enough that they're ours. To say nothing of the fact that Whites tamed and civilized the places, the same way your ancestors migrated to, then tamed and civilized your homeland. Dot-Indians should probably keep their traps shut about it, given how fond they have become of immigrating here, since Whitey finished all the heavy lifting.

    However, Christianity has one glaring negative externality, and that is Zionism. And this is just far too huge to excuse. It is a curse of immense magnitude.
     
    Christianity has given way to Christian heresies, leftist heresy and Zionist heresy foremost among them. I think this is merely a sign of the weakening of Christianity, and the ascendance of leftism and Jewry.

    FYI when the Europeans burnt people convicted of various crimes to death they weren’t really burnt. When they were tied to the stake they were strangled
     
    Interesting - first time I'm hearing this. Source?

    Replies: @Alden

    Numerous sources in history books in every library. The internet might or might not have something about it.

  • @V
    While Marxism has historically attracted society’s very worst to its cause...painfully unattractive societal misfits — the obese, degenerates and outcasts.

    Couldn't help but be reminded here of Winston's co-worker, Parsons, at the Ministry of Truth in the book1984.

    ‘…one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the Thought Police, the stability of the Party depended.’

    Parsons was Winston’s fellow-employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralysing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms — one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the Thought Police, the stability of the Party depended. At thirty-five he had just been unwillingly evicted from the Youth League, and before graduating into the Youth League he had managed to stay on in the Spies for a year beyond the statutory age. At the Ministry he was employed in some subordinate post for which intelligence was not required, but on the other hand he was a leading figure on the Sports Committee and all the other committees engaged in organizing community hikes, spontaneous demonstrations, savings campaigns, and voluntary activities generally. He would inform you with quiet pride, between whiffs of his pipe, that he had put in an appearance at the Community Centre every evening for the past four years. An overpowering smell of sweat, a sort of unconscious testimony to the strenuousness of his life, followed him about wherever he went, and even remained behind him after he had gone.
     
    http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/1.html

    Replies: @Alden

    “Mass of imbecile enthusiasm” that’s SJWs

    • Replies:@V
    @Alden

    Hehe! I do wish it was all so humorous.

    The modern sjws of the wage slavery based multicult society almost certainly have their parallel in the chattel slavery based British colonial North America, particularly of the largely Puritan northeast. These were the ones of the everyday citizenry whom would observe the slave owners 'doting' upon their African slaves, naively deem it 'goodly', internalize it, and would then go on to do some of their own 'doting' upon these unfortunate persons. This would thus have the effect of enabling the slave owners, though like the vast majority of colonists these copycat doters probably didn't own slaves themselves; chattel slavery was a practice put in place by diktat that was decidedly not in most colonists interest, which indeed they had to rather suffer from. This 'doting' of the slave owners of course did nothing to truly help the slave, or ameliorate the evil of it, as it was in reality all about the slave owners themselves attempting to improve their self worth in both their own eyes and the eyes of others. Of course, too, there is the cynical truism that the happy slave makes for the harder working slave, and the harder working slave makes for the more profitable slave. When one of their fellow colonial citizens, perhaps wisely recalling the Spartacus led slave revolt which came close to gutting the core of the Roman republic and bringing with it the downfall of the Empire, might have suggested that perhaps this chattel slavery thing was not such a good idea and should be put a stop to, these primordial sjws acting on their Puritanical zeal and fanaticism, and their heavy emotional attachment to this 'doting', likely would have shouted them down and perhaps even attempted to physically assault them for daring to have said such a thing, misguidingly perceiving it as an attack on both themselves and those that they dote upon.

    Speaking of wage slavery and the internalized doting thereof by the modern sjw we're seeing a lot of that on display now with the literal hysteria surrounding the supposed comment made by Trump at the recent cabinet meeting. These sjw's enable the wage slavery system.

    My suspicion is that it was the persons heavily involved in the marketing and merchandising of chattel slaves (the dealers) who grasped during the latter 18th century that themonetization of chattel slavery and its trade (wage slavery, ie 'cheap labor' so called) was a far more profitable and efficient way to go about systematically stealing an individual's labor, and it was these chattel slave marketers who gave the impetus and likely financing to the 'Abolition movement' which did not in reality abolish truly ghastly slavery but rather merely smoothed the way for chattel slavery's monetization and the introduction of the more virulent and destructive wage slavery system to the world, much in the same way that a deadly cancer metastasizes and then proceeds to spread throughout the body.

    'The slaves in Massachusetts were treated with almost parental kindness. They were incorporated into the family...'


    As the reality of slavery in the North faded, and a strident anti-Southern abolitionism arose there, the memory of Northern slaves, when it surfaced at all, tended to focus on how happy and well-treated they had been, in terms much reminiscent of the so-called "Lost Cause" literature that followed the fall of the Confederacy in 1865.

    "The slaves in Massachusetts were treated with almost parental kindness. They were incorporated into the family, and each puritan household being a sort of religious structure, the relative duties of master and servant were clearly defined. No doubt the severest and longest task fell to the slave, but in the household of the farmer or artisan, the master and the mistress shared it, and when it was finished, the white and the black, like the feudal chief and his household servant, sat down to the same table, and shared the same viands." [Reminiscence by Catharine Sedgwick (1789-1867) of Stockbridge, Mass.]

    Yet the petitions for freedom from New England and Mid-Atlantic blacks, and the numbers in which they ran off from their masters to the British during the Revolution, suggest rather a different picture.

    Early 19th century New Englanders had real motives for forgetting their slave history, or, if they recalled it at all, for characterizing it as a brief period of mild servitude. This was partly a Puritan effort to absolve New England's ancestors of their guilt...
     
    http://slavenorth.com/
  • @Anon
    @Alden

    Any of my comments which counter his points with references get blocked by mods।।

    Only solution is trampling underneath elephants।।

    You two can have your weird discussion.

    Enlightenment values are the reason whites are facing self destruction & this suicidal ricebag wants us to import them।।

    A plurality of christians have converted for money many times just a bag of rice. Hence, the pejorative।।

    Replies: @Alden

    You are Singh the Hindu extremist that wants to bring back Sati. Of course the mods block your comments.

    • Replies:@Anon
    @Alden

    I'm a Sikh & what place does some christian kike slave have to comment on anything we do in our own lands?

    This is why you get mass immigration. you interfere & 'educate' the elites of other people creating a cultural similarity & then they bring the entire clan.

  • @SunBakedSuburb
    Quite lengthy but excellent article. Always appreciate a spotlight on the sinister Zionist-SJW connection. And I don't know what "Irish fever" is but I think I've got it.

    Replies: @Alden

    In addition to rental property and investments, Lizzie Borden’s Father was a money lender who charged high interest rates.

    That’s why the police suspected the murderer was one of Borden’s many victims and easily believed Lizzie’s alibi at first.

    • Replies:@V
    @Alden

    Yes, Andrew Borden was supposed to have had many enemies. I do tend to think it was Lizzie that did the deed. Her burning that 'paint stained' dress a few days after the event against the advice of a friend who witnessed it is and was quite suspicious. And there was the report about her failed attempt to buy Prussic acid the day before the atrocity.

    The family overall seemed to be somewhat 'dysfunctional' as they would say today.

  • You should all jump into shitholes. It does not smell worse than your comments.

  • @Malla
    @V


    I think if the idea is correct that they intend to enslave most everyone it would be through the wage slavery system, where most everyone will indeed be a rootless ‘immigrant’ and like a great many of the present day Chinese the person will be paid a dollar an hour or its equivalent to work at a factory or somesuch, and maybe allowed a broken down bike (very green!) and a hovel to live in communally with others. The sjw’s, having embraced or having failed to succesfully resist the multicult conditioning, by their rhetoric seem unknowingly and unwittingly quite ready with great joy to embrace such a future and act as though they would quite happily enforce this nightmare as modern day Red Guards, at the behest of their corporate masters.
     
    Exactly!!! Brilliant. That is the Grand Plan.

    Replies: @Anon

    Figured out you were Bengali/Kayast a while back. A true casteist knows these things।।

    • Replies:@Malla
    @Anon

    Your figuring out was only half correct. I am Kayastha but of U.P. ancestry (Mathurs, ancestors from Mathura)

  • @Malla
    @V

    Thanks that was very informative. Wage slavery is a type of slavery we are in right now. Anyways, the long term plans for the elites is global communism slavery.


    People might recall the scene in Amistad where, being chased by a ship of the West African squadron the slaver decides to jettison its load of chattel slaves into the ocean (with large rocks tied to their bodies so that they would sink and drown) so as to avoid their capture and prosecution. There is the exact parallel in the US and now unfortunately Europe where when the law gets too hot for some of these wage slave smugglers, they too do just as their slaver forebears did in the 18th century and jettison their human loads. They do this by simply abandoning the enclosed and sealed van trailers on the side of the road or in parking lots
     
    What a bunch of scum to do something like that!!

    Replies: @V

    What a bunch of scum to do something like that!!

    That’s true.

    Powerful elements of the Anglo-Saxon elites and their hangers on in both the future US and UK had been corrupted by chattel slavery and its trade during the 17th and 18th centuries. They were quite used to (particularly in British North America) rejecting their own Anglo-Saxon people for short term financial gain with the genocidal chattel slavery and its trade. Reflective of that long dysfunctional relationship that has existed between the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish people powerful elements of the elites of the Jewish people and their hangers on as well have historically been heavily involved in chattel slavery and its trade.

    The failure to deal with chattel slavery and it trade in a truthful manner, and rather than abolish it, simply monetize it, as was done with the introduction of the wage slavery system (ie ‘cheap labor’ so called) to the world, this slavery being the very economic basis of the multi-cult society, has been a catastrophe of unprecedented proportions to the peoples of the world as well as humanity as a whole.

    The Big Lie, the lie of the millenium, was the 19th century ‘abolition’ of slavery.

  • @Anon
    @V

    Malla is a Kayast so whitewashes British rule because his tribe are among the top collaborators।।

    Back on topic, so how do we prevent this mass chattel importation?

    Replies: @Malla, @V

    Back on topic, so how do we prevent this mass chattel importation?

    One of the most important things a person and their society can do is understand the mechanics of chattel slavery and what drives an individual to own slaves. Once, they understand that it’s not too difficult to see the close parallels between the chattel and wage slavery systems, the latter often called by that term of propoganda, ‘cheap labor’. As mentioned, the multicultural society, with the ‘cheap labor’/mass immigration system being its economic basis, closely parallels the chattel slave holding society. The ‘immigrant’ in the multicult society, whether unskilled or skilled, is the slave in this system for whatever time period he or she is paid below what was or would have been the expected prevailing local cost of labor to the employer to pay one of his own if the immigration was not taking place.

    Just understanding the strong slavery aspects of the multicult system helps a person to defend against it. After all, who wants to be a slave?

  • @V
    @Malla


    This is important before the globalists can set up their one world government slave society on Earth.
     
    Bearing in mind that all a slave owner wishes to do hook or by crook (often times a lot of crook) is to pay cost significantly below the actual or expected local value of an individual's labor, and does so by purchasing and importing someone not of their own, a chattel, to do this. The slave dealer wishes at profit to himself to provide these chattel slaves to the slave owners. With wage slavery the former would be slave owner still get this 'hit' of unpaid labor by simply paying significantly below the local labor costs to employ one of their own by importing someone typically not of their own, 'the immigrant'. The would be slave dealer is present in this process as before by arranging transportation, food, lodging, etc, for the 'wage slaves'. This is all done within the framework of a callous and utter disregard towards one's fellow man, both towards their own, and towards those broken and defeated people's preyed upon as a source of this stolen labor. By it's very nature, whereever you have slavery practiced, whether it bechattel orwage you typically have people rejecting their own for short term financial gain. There's no free lunch with slavery as due to its genocidal effects if allowed to go on long enough it will ultimately destroy any people where its become entrenched.

    I think if the idea is correct that they intend to enslave most everyone it would be through the wage slavery system, where most everyone will indeed be a rootless 'immigrant' and like a great many of the present day Chinese the person will be paid a dollar an hour or its equivalent to work at a factory or somesuch, and maybe allowed a broken down bike (very green!) and a hovel to live in communally with others. The sjw's, having embraced or having failed to succesfully resist the multicult conditioning, by their rhetoric seem unknowingly and unwittingly quite ready with great joy to embrace such a future and act as though they would quite happily enforce this nightmare as modern day Red Guards, at the behest of their corporate masters.

    Anyhow, if you can’t get enough of the wage slaves to come to you, you go directly to the slaves.

    The below was published inThe Spectator of London in 1850, about a year before the London Times editorial regarding the textile magnate/US ambassador Abbott Lawrence posted in this same thread. It outlines plans to move US manufacturing plants (ie textile mills) to Ireland. Note the context of these plans, an Ireland quite unhappily married to the British Empire and experiencing famine to boot. This same type of predation is exactly the same thing that goes on today when US corporations not wanting to pay twenty dollars an hour to workers here find they can pay a crushed by communism Chinese work force one dollar an hour there. Also note how the article openly speaks of the ‘cheap labor’ in slave terms referring to it as ‘this British substitute for slave labour’. This was at a time that chattel slavery was still practiced in the world and the general public from personal observation had a lot better understanding of its mechanics and the dynamics that drive it.

    In the primordial days of the multicult during the mid 19th century they were a lot more open and plain spoken about these things in the media.

    this encouragement of low wages, this British substitute for “slave-labour”


    The Spectator - 1850

    AMERICAN FACTORIES IN IRELAND

    A Protectionist Nemesis is prophesied in the form of the most singular invasion ever threatened. to Great Britain—an invasion of American manufacturers, who are to set up factories in the West of Ireland, to compete with the factories of Laneashire, and to secure a larger consumption of American cotton…But were it practicable and true, how is it that we find a Protectionist advocating the wholesale invasion of foreign enterprise, this competition with ” native industry,” this encouragement of low wages, this British substitute for ” slave-labour”? The oblivion of principles is as striking a part of the dream as any.
     

    http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/22nd-june-1850/15/american-factories-in-ireland

    Replies: @Anon, @Malla

    I think if the idea is correct that they intend to enslave most everyone it would be through the wage slavery system, where most everyone will indeed be a rootless ‘immigrant’ and like a great many of the present day Chinese the person will be paid a dollar an hour or its equivalent to work at a factory or somesuch, and maybe allowed a broken down bike (very green!) and a hovel to live in communally with others. The sjw’s, having embraced or having failed to succesfully resist the multicult conditioning, by their rhetoric seem unknowingly and unwittingly quite ready with great joy to embrace such a future and act as though they would quite happily enforce this nightmare as modern day Red Guards, at the behest of their corporate masters.

    Exactly!!! Brilliant. That is the Grand Plan.

    • Agree:Alden
    • Replies:@Anon
    @Malla

    Figured out you were Bengali/Kayast a while back. A true casteist knows these things।।

    Replies: @Malla

  • @Anon
    @V

    Malla is a Kayast so whitewashes British rule because his tribe are among the top collaborators।।

    Back on topic, so how do we prevent this mass chattel importation?

    Replies: @Malla, @V

    Malla is a Kayast so whitewashes British rule because his tribe are among the top collaborators

    How did you come to know I am a Kayasta?
    LOL we collaborated as much as or even less than Brahmins did and many Kayasthas opposed the British Empire. Subhash Chandra Bose was a Bengali Kayastha and Bal Thakaray the Hinduvadi leader of the Hindu Shiv Sena party in Maharashtra is from the Maharastrian Kayastha (CKP) community.
    If you think Brahmins did not collaborate with the British, Portuguese or the Mughals, you are a fool. A large part of the giant British Raj Bureaucracy , Portuguese Bureaucracy in Goa and even the late Mughal Bureaucracy had loads of Brahmins in them working like drones.
    We Kayasthas were traditionally scrolls or writers in royal courts from ancient Hindu/Buddhist/Jain periods so obviously we naturally gravitated to bureaucratic/intellectual roles in the British Raj and even now in the Indian Government. During the Islamic times we lost our traditional source of livelihood as not only did we have to compete with Brahmins but also Persians in intellectual roles and somehow the muslim rulers never liked us very much.
    The Persians were the Brahmins (intellectual roles) of the Islamic world during the Delhi Sultanate, Turk and Mongols were the warrior Kshatriyas and Arabs traders as well as Jain/Hindu traders took up mercantile roles. We were squeezed out. Even the Hindu Maratha era was not of much use to us. So when the British Raj came and destroyed Islamic power completely and set up the Empire in India, we worked hard to regain our traditional roles in intellectual fields in the new British Indian bureaucracy as we had in ancient times during Hindu/Buddhist periods. That cannot be called collaboration.
    That way nearly all communities collaborated with the British as well as opposed them at different periods. Dalits, Sikhs, Brahmins, Gurkhas, Muslims, Tribals, Rajputs, Afghan Pathans/Pastuns etc… you name it.
    And most Kayasthas I know are hardcore brainwashed Hinduvadi crackpots like you, I do not agree with them.

  • @V
    @Malla


    They are financed and directed by the globalist elites to destroy Western civilization and the White race. This is important before the globalists can set up their one world government slave society on Earth.
     
    I think your quite right about that.

    On occasion it happens in times of war and great crises that things which are normally hidden from view come out in the open. Most everyone can recall the WWII era photograph of Joseph Stalin flanked by both Churchill and Roosevelt, the reality being that of a Communist flanked by his two Capitalist masters. Then there was the poster of the war time Soviet soldier with the caption ‘This man is your friend’ aimed at the US armed forces. While no doubt the forces promoting international hyper-capitalism do see Communism as a ‘friend’ of theirs its highly doubtful as to whether the system that soldier represented on the poster was or is a friend to most everyday individuals, man or woman.

    Almost a hundred years prior to WWII there was another great cataclysm, ie the Irish Famine of the years 1845-1850. Due to the potato blight and the heavy reliance on the potato crop for sustenance in Ireland, along with the application of almost pure laisez faire free market capitalism to the affair by the British Empire, the result was a famine which cost the lives of an estimated one million Irish. Another one million Irish during this same approximate period were lost due to the enmasse predation of the Irish population recruited as wage slaves (ie ‘cheap laborers’ so called) to the United States and far flung places of the British Empire. Most of these latter Irish would never see Ireland again, that is the ones that survived the trip overseas as a great many didn’t. Ireland proper therefore during these years lost two million people, fully a quarter of its population, due to the famine and the described enmasse predation. Ireland looked just about ‘done for’.

    In 1851 theLondon Times published an editorial regarding a tour of Ireland made by Abbott Lawrence, the US ambassador to the UK, which at the time included the whole of Ireland. Bear in mind that London Times editorials are not just any British journalism as they have long been seen as a mouthpiece for official British government thought regarding policy. While the famine had by then abated somewhat, the enmasse predation of the Irish was still continuing in very great number (ie Ireland was losing 250,000 people a year to this, the same number approximately that it had been losing yearly to famine) and looked as though it might continue on for many years. Lawrence was a Massachusetts textile factory magnate and as Ireland had become a primary source of wage slaves for his manufacturing plants his appointment as US ambassador to the UK was no doubt seen by him as a plum post. The Times editorial openly describes the Irish people being ‘known no more’ as a people, not due to the famine, but due to their enmasse predation as a source of wage slaves. The historic ‘immigrant’ Plantatation of the north of Ireland and the resulting 'mixed' population there is referred to in slave terms by the editorial as being ‘more mixed’, ‘more docile’, and which much unlike the purely indigenous Irish, ‘submits to a master’. The editorial indicates that it is to be this ‘mixed’ population of the north of Ireland that is to be used to occupy the rest of Ireland where the original Irish had once been. The Irish which have gone to the US as wage slaves, ie to places such as Abbott Lawrence’s newly constructed industrial town of Lawrence, Mass, officially nicknamed ‘Immigrant City’ to this day, are to ‘mix with the Anglo-American’, and thus be ‘known no more’. The editorial adds, something that sjws would no doubt be in agreement with, that, ‘the great law of Providence...seems to reward and enjoin the mixing of races.’ It was not coincidental that the then still largely Anglo-Saxon United States, wishing to preserve itself, would see the rise of the ‘Know Nothing’ movement only a few short years after this editorial was published.

    'It [the Irish people] will mix with the Anglo-American, and be known no more as a jealous and separate people.'

    London Times - 1851

    The prosperity and happiness he [Lawrence] speaks of may some day reign over that beautiful island. It’s fertile soil, its water-power, its minerals, and other materials for the wants and luxuries of man, may one day be developed; but all apearances are against the belief that this will ever happen in the days of the Celt. That tribe will soon fulfill the great law of Providence which seems to enjoin and reward the union of races. It will mix with the Anglo-American, and be known no more as a jealous and separate people. Its present place will be occupied by the more mixed, more docile, and more serviceable race, which has long borne the yoke of sturdy industry in this island, which can submit to a master and obey the law…
     
    During the primordial days of the multicult in the mid 19th century they were a lot more open and plain spoken about these things in the media of the day. Since that time they've discovered the power of Pavlovian conditoning, aka positive reinforcement, and are not so blunt about things. Catch more flies with honey than with vinegar and all that.

    So, in one editorial regarding this great crises, you have all the ingredients of modern multiculturalism presented, sans the modern acoutrement of the often fraudulent 'asylum seeker' and 'refugee' which have been tossed in to obsfuscate the slavery which as at the core of the ideology. You have open acknowledgements of the closely parallelling chattel and wage slavery (ie 'cheap labor' so called) systems genocidal effects on both those people preyed upon as a source and those by diktat on the receiving end. There is the slave references to the historic ‘immigrant’ plantation population in the north of Ireland, and the resulting 'more mixed' population there described as slaves, this 'mixing' of peoples indeed being a major part of the role of 'the immigrant' as a wage slave in the multicultural society. And then that ‘Providence’ ‘rewards and enjoins’ this genocidal and quite unnatural ‘mixing’ which as the London Times gently clarifies results in a people being 'more mixed, more docile, and which submits to a master'. The editorial also notes, though not excerpted here, that there are great new markets opening up as a result of all this human misery, ie, amongst other things, the shipping firms which are hired out to transport the Irish away from Ireland, again closely paralleling chattel slavery. Another parallel of wage slavery with chattel slavery is the predation of broken and defeated peoples for these slaves, here being an Ireland which has historically experienced Cromwell, is under long term British occupation, and stricken with famine on top of it.

    And what did the Irish themselves call this enmasse predation of their people as wage slaves which the London Times declared would soon enough result in the Irish people being ‘known no more’? As documented by theThe Spectator of London in 1847 which is quoted from and linked below…they called it ‘extermination’.

    This editorial was starkly entitled 'Extermination and Vengeance' as the Irish people were actively shooting those in Ireland that were promoting their enmasse predation as wage slaves to the United States. I've linked the two complete editorials below.

    Such is the conduct which the Irish incendiaries name “extermination.”

    The Spectator - 1847

    The case of Mr. Ormsby Gore is very instructive. The Irish papers, alluding to his estate of Leganommer, had a terrific story of "extermination in Leitrim,” full of direct falsehoods. Setting aside smaller matters, it appears that the tenants on the estate owed rent for several years, in some instances for as many as twelve or fourteen; one year’s rent was demanded, under pain of a twelvemonth’s notice to quit: not a shilling of rent was offered, and the notice was enforced; but the enforcement was accompanied with a declaration that those who could not retain their holdings would be aided by their landlord to emigrate to America. Such is the conduct which the Irish incendiaries name “extermination.”
     
    One close parallel between the chattel and wage slavery systems that the editorial doesn’t describe directly is the loss of life that occurs. People might recall the scene in Amistad where, being chased by a ship of the West African squadron the slaver decides to jettison its load of chattel slaves into the ocean (with large rocks tied to their bodies so that they would sink and drown) so as to avoid their capture and prosecution. There is the exact parallel in the US and now unfortunately Europe where when the law gets too hot for some of these wage slave smugglers, they too do just as their slaver forebears did in the 18th century and jettison their human loads. They do this by simply abandoning the enclosed and sealed van trailers on the side of the road or in parking lots. I’ve linked two cases below, one in Europe where fifty ‘migrants’ were found dead and another in the US where approximately ten bodies were found inside of an abandoned trailer. Their blood, as well as the associated genocide and slavery that is occurring with the wage slavery system, is on the heads of the sjws who by their support and unbridled advocacy of uncontrolled mass immigration enable these tragedies to occur.

    http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=livn;cc=livn;rgn=full%20text;idno=livn0031-7;didno=livn0031-7;view=image;seq=296;node=livn0031-7%3A1;page=root;size=100

    http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/20th-november-1847/12/extermination-and-vengeance

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/672183?keywords=austria-migrants-truck-human&year=2015&month=08&date=27&id=672183&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Wire&oref=r.search.yahoo.com

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/eight-dead-inside-truck-texas-143117349.html

    Replies: @Malla

    Thanks that was very informative. Wage slavery is a type of slavery we are in right now. Anyways, the long term plans for the elites is global communism slavery.

    People might recall the scene in Amistad where, being chased by a ship of the West African squadron the slaver decides to jettison its load of chattel slaves into the ocean (with large rocks tied to their bodies so that they would sink and drown) so as to avoid their capture and prosecution. There is the exact parallel in the US and now unfortunately Europe where when the law gets too hot for some of these wage slave smugglers, they too do just as their slaver forebears did in the 18th century and jettison their human loads. They do this by simply abandoning the enclosed and sealed van trailers on the side of the road or in parking lots

    What a bunch of scum to do something like that!!

    • Replies:@V
    @Malla

    What a bunch of scum to do something like that!!

    That's true.

    Powerful elements of the Anglo-Saxon elites and their hangers on in both the future US and UK had been corrupted by chattel slavery and its trade during the 17th and 18th centuries. They were quite used to (particularly in British North America) rejecting their own Anglo-Saxon people for short term financial gain with the genocidal chattel slavery and its trade. Reflective of that long dysfunctional relationship that has existed between the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish people powerful elements of the elites of the Jewish people and their hangers on as well have historically been heavily involved in chattel slavery and its trade.

    The failure to deal with chattel slavery and it trade in a truthful manner, and rather than abolish it, simply monetize it, as was done with the introduction of the wage slavery system (ie 'cheap labor' so called) to the world, this slavery being the very economic basis of the multi-cult society, has been a catastrophe of unprecedented proportions to the peoples of the world as well as humanity as a whole.

    The Big Lie, the lie of the millenium, was the 19th century 'abolition' of slavery.

  • @V
    @Malla


    This is important before the globalists can set up their one world government slave society on Earth.
     
    Bearing in mind that all a slave owner wishes to do hook or by crook (often times a lot of crook) is to pay cost significantly below the actual or expected local value of an individual's labor, and does so by purchasing and importing someone not of their own, a chattel, to do this. The slave dealer wishes at profit to himself to provide these chattel slaves to the slave owners. With wage slavery the former would be slave owner still get this 'hit' of unpaid labor by simply paying significantly below the local labor costs to employ one of their own by importing someone typically not of their own, 'the immigrant'. The would be slave dealer is present in this process as before by arranging transportation, food, lodging, etc, for the 'wage slaves'. This is all done within the framework of a callous and utter disregard towards one's fellow man, both towards their own, and towards those broken and defeated people's preyed upon as a source of this stolen labor. By it's very nature, whereever you have slavery practiced, whether it bechattel orwage you typically have people rejecting their own for short term financial gain. There's no free lunch with slavery as due to its genocidal effects if allowed to go on long enough it will ultimately destroy any people where its become entrenched.

    I think if the idea is correct that they intend to enslave most everyone it would be through the wage slavery system, where most everyone will indeed be a rootless 'immigrant' and like a great many of the present day Chinese the person will be paid a dollar an hour or its equivalent to work at a factory or somesuch, and maybe allowed a broken down bike (very green!) and a hovel to live in communally with others. The sjw's, having embraced or having failed to succesfully resist the multicult conditioning, by their rhetoric seem unknowingly and unwittingly quite ready with great joy to embrace such a future and act as though they would quite happily enforce this nightmare as modern day Red Guards, at the behest of their corporate masters.

    Anyhow, if you can’t get enough of the wage slaves to come to you, you go directly to the slaves.

    The below was published inThe Spectator of London in 1850, about a year before the London Times editorial regarding the textile magnate/US ambassador Abbott Lawrence posted in this same thread. It outlines plans to move US manufacturing plants (ie textile mills) to Ireland. Note the context of these plans, an Ireland quite unhappily married to the British Empire and experiencing famine to boot. This same type of predation is exactly the same thing that goes on today when US corporations not wanting to pay twenty dollars an hour to workers here find they can pay a crushed by communism Chinese work force one dollar an hour there. Also note how the article openly speaks of the ‘cheap labor’ in slave terms referring to it as ‘this British substitute for slave labour’. This was at a time that chattel slavery was still practiced in the world and the general public from personal observation had a lot better understanding of its mechanics and the dynamics that drive it.

    In the primordial days of the multicult during the mid 19th century they were a lot more open and plain spoken about these things in the media.

    this encouragement of low wages, this British substitute for “slave-labour”


    The Spectator - 1850

    AMERICAN FACTORIES IN IRELAND

    A Protectionist Nemesis is prophesied in the form of the most singular invasion ever threatened. to Great Britain—an invasion of American manufacturers, who are to set up factories in the West of Ireland, to compete with the factories of Laneashire, and to secure a larger consumption of American cotton…But were it practicable and true, how is it that we find a Protectionist advocating the wholesale invasion of foreign enterprise, this competition with ” native industry,” this encouragement of low wages, this British substitute for ” slave-labour”? The oblivion of principles is as striking a part of the dream as any.
     

    http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/22nd-june-1850/15/american-factories-in-ireland

    Replies: @Anon, @Malla

    Malla is a Kayast so whitewashes British rule because his tribe are among the top collaborators।।

    Back on topic, so how do we prevent this mass chattel importation?

    • Replies:@Malla
    @Anon


    Malla is a Kayast so whitewashes British rule because his tribe are among the top collaborators
     
    How did you come to know I am a Kayasta?
    LOL we collaborated as much as or even less than Brahmins did and many Kayasthas opposed the British Empire. Subhash Chandra Bose was a Bengali Kayastha and Bal Thakaray the Hinduvadi leader of the Hindu Shiv Sena party in Maharashtra is from the Maharastrian Kayastha (CKP) community.
    If you think Brahmins did not collaborate with the British, Portuguese or the Mughals, you are a fool. A large part of the giant British Raj Bureaucracy , Portuguese Bureaucracy in Goa and even the late Mughal Bureaucracy had loads of Brahmins in them working like drones.
    We Kayasthas were traditionally scrolls or writers in royal courts from ancient Hindu/Buddhist/Jain periods so obviously we naturally gravitated to bureaucratic/intellectual roles in the British Raj and even now in the Indian Government. During the Islamic times we lost our traditional source of livelihood as not only did we have to compete with Brahmins but also Persians in intellectual roles and somehow the muslim rulers never liked us very much.
    The Persians were the Brahmins (intellectual roles) of the Islamic world during the Delhi Sultanate, Turk and Mongols were the warrior Kshatriyas and Arabs traders as well as Jain/Hindu traders took up mercantile roles. We were squeezed out. Even the Hindu Maratha era was not of much use to us. So when the British Raj came and destroyed Islamic power completely and set up the Empire in India, we worked hard to regain our traditional roles in intellectual fields in the new British Indian bureaucracy as we had in ancient times during Hindu/Buddhist periods. That cannot be called collaboration.
    That way nearly all communities collaborated with the British as well as opposed them at different periods. Dalits, Sikhs, Brahmins, Gurkhas, Muslims, Tribals, Rajputs, Afghan Pathans/Pastuns etc... you name it.
    And most Kayasthas I know are hardcore brainwashed Hinduvadi crackpots like you, I do not agree with them.
    ,@V
    @Anon


    Back on topic, so how do we prevent this mass chattel importation?
     
    One of the most important things a person and their society can do is understand the mechanics of chattel slavery and what drives an individual to own slaves. Once, they understand that it's not too difficult to see the close parallels between the chattel and wage slavery systems, the latter often called by that term of propoganda, 'cheap labor'. As mentioned, the multicultural society, with the 'cheap labor'/mass immigration system being its economic basis, closely parallels the chattel slave holding society. The 'immigrant' in the multicult society, whether unskilled or skilled, is the slave in this system for whatever time period he or she is paid below what was or would have been the expected prevailing local cost of labor to the employer to pay one of his own if the immigration was not taking place.

    Just understanding the strong slavery aspects of the multicult system helps a person to defend against it. After all, who wants to be a slave?
  • @Malla
    Todays SJWs are misfits and idiots who are the result of decades of Marxist propaganda via the education system and the media. They are financed and directed by the globalist elites to destroy Western civilization and the White race. This is important before the globalists can set up their one world government slave society on Earth. These same globalist elites financed nearly all the anti-colonial movements, the destruction of South Africa and Rhodesia, spreading of Communism and now finally the West.

    Replies: @Iberiano, @Backwoods Bob, @Druid, @V, @V

    This is important before the globalists can set up their one world government slave society on Earth.

    Bearing in mind that all a slave owner wishes to do hook or by crook (often times a lot of crook) is to pay cost significantly below the actual or expected local value of an individual’s labor, and does so by purchasing and importing someone not of their own, a chattel, to do this. The slave dealer wishes at profit to himself to provide these chattel slaves to the slave owners. With wage slavery the former would be slave owner still get this ‘hit’ of unpaid labor by simply paying significantly below the local labor costs to employ one of their own by importing someone typically not of their own, ‘the immigrant’. The would be slave dealer is present in this process as before by arranging transportation, food, lodging, etc, for the ‘wage slaves’. This is all done within the framework of a callous and utter disregard towards one’s fellow man, both towards their own, and towards those broken and defeated people’s preyed upon as a source of this stolen labor. By it’s very nature, whereever you have slavery practiced, whether it bechattel orwage you typically have people rejecting their own for short term financial gain. There’s no free lunch with slavery as due to its genocidal effects if allowed to go on long enough it will ultimately destroy any people where its become entrenched.

    I think if the idea is correct that they intend to enslave most everyone it would be through the wage slavery system, where most everyone will indeed be a rootless ‘immigrant’ and like a great many of the present day Chinese the person will be paid a dollar an hour or its equivalent to work at a factory or somesuch, and maybe allowed a broken down bike (very green!) and a hovel to live in communally with others. The sjw’s, having embraced or having failed to succesfully resist the multicult conditioning, by their rhetoric seem unknowingly and unwittingly quite ready with great joy to embrace such a future and act as though they would quite happily enforce this nightmare as modern day Red Guards, at the behest of their corporate masters.

    Anyhow, if you can’t get enough of the wage slaves to come to you, you go directly to the slaves.

    The below was published inThe Spectator of London in 1850, about a year before the London Times editorial regarding the textile magnate/US ambassador Abbott Lawrence posted in this same thread. It outlines plans to move US manufacturing plants (ie textile mills) to Ireland. Note the context of these plans, an Ireland quite unhappily married to the British Empire and experiencing famine to boot. This same type of predation is exactly the same thing that goes on today when US corporations not wanting to pay twenty dollars an hour to workers here find they can pay a crushed by communism Chinese work force one dollar an hour there. Also note how the article openly speaks of the ‘cheap labor’ in slave terms referring to it as ‘this British substitute for slave labour’. This was at a time that chattel slavery was still practiced in the world and the general public from personal observation had a lot better understanding of its mechanics and the dynamics that drive it.

    In the primordial days of the multicult during the mid 19th century they were a lot more open and plain spoken about these things in the media.

    this encouragement of low wages, this British substitute for “slave-labour”

    The Spectator – 1850

    AMERICAN FACTORIES IN IRELAND

    A Protectionist Nemesis is prophesied in the form of the most singular invasion ever threatened. to Great Britain—an invasion of American manufacturers, who are to set up factories in the West of Ireland, to compete with the factories of Laneashire, and to secure a larger consumption of American cotton…But were it practicable and true, how is it that we find a Protectionist advocating the wholesale invasion of foreign enterprise, this competition with ” native industry,” this encouragement of low wages, this British substitute for ” slave-labour”? The oblivion of principles is as striking a part of the dream as any.

    http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/22nd-june-1850/15/american-factories-in-ireland

    • Replies:@Anon
    @V

    Malla is a Kayast so whitewashes British rule because his tribe are among the top collaborators।।

    Back on topic, so how do we prevent this mass chattel importation?

    Replies: @Malla, @V

    ,@Malla
    @V


    I think if the idea is correct that they intend to enslave most everyone it would be through the wage slavery system, where most everyone will indeed be a rootless ‘immigrant’ and like a great many of the present day Chinese the person will be paid a dollar an hour or its equivalent to work at a factory or somesuch, and maybe allowed a broken down bike (very green!) and a hovel to live in communally with others. The sjw’s, having embraced or having failed to succesfully resist the multicult conditioning, by their rhetoric seem unknowingly and unwittingly quite ready with great joy to embrace such a future and act as though they would quite happily enforce this nightmare as modern day Red Guards, at the behest of their corporate masters.
     
    Exactly!!! Brilliant. That is the Grand Plan.

    Replies: @Anon

  • V says:
    @Malla
    Todays SJWs are misfits and idiots who are the result of decades of Marxist propaganda via the education system and the media. They are financed and directed by the globalist elites to destroy Western civilization and the White race. This is important before the globalists can set up their one world government slave society on Earth. These same globalist elites financed nearly all the anti-colonial movements, the destruction of South Africa and Rhodesia, spreading of Communism and now finally the West.

    Replies: @Iberiano, @Backwoods Bob, @Druid, @V, @V

    They are financed and directed by the globalist elites to destroy Western civilization and the White race. This is important before the globalists can set up their one world government slave society on Earth.

    I think your quite right about that.

    On occasion it happens in times of war and great crises that things which are normally hidden from view come out in the open. Most everyone can recall the WWII era photograph of Joseph Stalin flanked by both Churchill and Roosevelt, the reality being that of a Communist flanked by his two Capitalist masters. Then there was the poster of the war time Soviet soldier with the caption ‘This man is your friend’ aimed at the US armed forces. While no doubt the forces promoting international hyper-capitalism do see Communism as a ‘friend’ of theirs its highly doubtful as to whether the system that soldier represented on the poster was or is a friend to most everyday individuals, man or woman.

    Almost a hundred years prior to WWII there was another great cataclysm, ie the Irish Famine of the years 1845-1850. Due to the potato blight and the heavy reliance on the potato crop for sustenance in Ireland, along with the application of almost pure laisez faire free market capitalism to the affair by the British Empire, the result was a famine which cost the lives of an estimated one million Irish. Another one million Irish during this same approximate period were lost due to the enmasse predation of the Irish population recruited as wage slaves (ie ‘cheap laborers’ so called) to the United States and far flung places of the British Empire. Most of these latter Irish would never see Ireland again, that is the ones that survived the trip overseas as a great many didn’t. Ireland proper therefore during these years lost two million people, fully a quarter of its population, due to the famine and the described enmasse predation. Ireland looked just about ‘done for’.

    In 1851 theLondon Times published an editorial regarding a tour of Ireland made by Abbott Lawrence, the US ambassador to the UK, which at the time included the whole of Ireland. Bear in mind that London Times editorials are not just any British journalism as they have long been seen as a mouthpiece for official British government thought regarding policy. While the famine had by then abated somewhat, the enmasse predation of the Irish was still continuing in very great number (ie Ireland was losing 250,000 people a year to this, the same number approximately that it had been losing yearly to famine) and looked as though it might continue on for many years. Lawrence was a Massachusetts textile factory magnate and as Ireland had become a primary source of wage slaves for his manufacturing plants his appointment as US ambassador to the UK was no doubt seen by him as a plum post. The Times editorial openly describes the Irish people being ‘known no more’ as a people, not due to the famine, but due to their enmasse predation as a source of wage slaves. The historic ‘immigrant’ Plantatation of the north of Ireland and the resulting ‘mixed’ population there is referred to in slave terms by the editorial as being ‘more mixed’, ‘more docile’, and which much unlike the purely indigenous Irish, ‘submits to a master’. The editorial indicates that it is to be this ‘mixed’ population of the north of Ireland that is to be used to occupy the rest of Ireland where the original Irish had once been. The Irish which have gone to the US as wage slaves, ie to places such as Abbott Lawrence’s newly constructed industrial town of Lawrence, Mass, officially nicknamed ‘Immigrant City’ to this day, are to ‘mix with the Anglo-American’, and thus be ‘known no more’. The editorial adds, something that sjws would no doubt be in agreement with, that, ‘the great law of Providence…seems to reward and enjoin the mixing of races.’ It was not coincidental that the then still largely Anglo-Saxon United States, wishing to preserve itself, would see the rise of the ‘Know Nothing’ movement only a few short years after this editorial was published.

    ‘It [the Irish people] will mix with the Anglo-American, and be known no more as a jealous and separate people.’

    London Times – 1851

    The prosperity and happiness he [Lawrence] speaks of may some day reign over that beautiful island. It’s fertile soil, its water-power, its minerals, and other materials for the wants and luxuries of man, may one day be developed; but all apearances are against the belief that this will ever happen in the days of the Celt. That tribe will soon fulfill the great law of Providence which seems to enjoin and reward the union of races. It will mix with the Anglo-American, and be known no more as a jealous and separate people. Its present place will be occupied by the more mixed, more docile, and more serviceable race, which has long borne the yoke of sturdy industry in this island, which can submit to a master and obey the law…

    During the primordial days of the multicult in the mid 19th century they were a lot more open and plain spoken about these things in the media of the day. Since that time they’ve discovered the power of Pavlovian conditoning, aka positive reinforcement, and are not so blunt about things. Catch more flies with honey than with vinegar and all that.

    So, in one editorial regarding this great crises, you have all the ingredients of modern multiculturalism presented, sans the modern acoutrement of the often fraudulent ‘asylum seeker’ and ‘refugee’ which have been tossed in to obsfuscate the slavery which as at the core of the ideology. You have open acknowledgements of the closely parallelling chattel and wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’ so called) systems genocidal effects on both those people preyed upon as a source and those by diktat on the receiving end. There is the slave references to the historic ‘immigrant’ plantation population in the north of Ireland, and the resulting ‘more mixed’ population there described as slaves, this ‘mixing’ of peoples indeed being a major part of the role of ‘the immigrant’ as a wage slave in the multicultural society. And then that ‘Providence’ ‘rewards and enjoins’ this genocidal and quite unnatural ‘mixing’ which as the London Times gently clarifies results in a people being ‘more mixed, more docile, and which submits to a master’. The editorial also notes, though not excerpted here, that there are great new markets opening up as a result of all this human misery, ie, amongst other things, the shipping firms which are hired out to transport the Irish away from Ireland, again closely paralleling chattel slavery. Another parallel of wage slavery with chattel slavery is the predation of broken and defeated peoples for these slaves, here being an Ireland which has historically experienced Cromwell, is under long term British occupation, and stricken with famine on top of it.

    And what did the Irish themselves call this enmasse predation of their people as wage slaves which the London Times declared would soon enough result in the Irish people being ‘known no more’? As documented by theThe Spectator of London in 1847 which is quoted from and linked below…they called it ‘extermination’.

    This editorial was starkly entitled ‘Extermination and Vengeance’ as the Irish people were actively shooting those in Ireland that were promoting their enmasse predation as wage slaves to the United States. I’ve linked the two complete editorials below.

    Such is the conduct which the Irish incendiaries name “extermination.”

    The Spectator – 1847

    The case of Mr. Ormsby Gore is very instructive. The Irish papers, alluding to his estate of Leganommer, had a terrific story of “extermination in Leitrim,” full of direct falsehoods. Setting aside smaller matters, it appears that the tenants on the estate owed rent for several years, in some instances for as many as twelve or fourteen; one year’s rent was demanded, under pain of a twelvemonth’s notice to quit: not a shilling of rent was offered, and the notice was enforced; but the enforcement was accompanied with a declaration that those who could not retain their holdings would be aided by their landlord to emigrate to America. Such is the conduct which the Irish incendiaries name “extermination.”

    One close parallel between the chattel and wage slavery systems that the editorial doesn’t describe directly is the loss of life that occurs. People might recall the scene in Amistad where, being chased by a ship of the West African squadron the slaver decides to jettison its load of chattel slaves into the ocean (with large rocks tied to their bodies so that they would sink and drown) so as to avoid their capture and prosecution. There is the exact parallel in the US and now unfortunately Europe where when the law gets too hot for some of these wage slave smugglers, they too do just as their slaver forebears did in the 18th century and jettison their human loads. They do this by simply abandoning the enclosed and sealed van trailers on the side of the road or in parking lots. I’ve linked two cases below, one in Europe where fifty ‘migrants’ were found dead and another in the US where approximately ten bodies were found inside of an abandoned trailer. Their blood, as well as the associated genocide and slavery that is occurring with the wage slavery system, is on the heads of the sjws who by their support and unbridled advocacy of uncontrolled mass immigration enable these tragedies to occur.

    http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=livn;cc=livn;rgn=full%20text;idno=livn0031-7;didno=livn0031-7;view=image;seq=296;node=livn0031-7%3A1;page=root;size=100

    http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/20th-november-1847/12/extermination-and-vengeance

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/672183?keywords=austria-migrants-truck-human&year=2015&month=08&date=27&id=672183&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Wire&oref=r.search.yahoo.com

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/eight-dead-inside-truck-texas-143117349.html

    • Replies:@Malla
    @V

    Thanks that was very informative. Wage slavery is a type of slavery we are in right now. Anyways, the long term plans for the elites is global communism slavery.


    People might recall the scene in Amistad where, being chased by a ship of the West African squadron the slaver decides to jettison its load of chattel slaves into the ocean (with large rocks tied to their bodies so that they would sink and drown) so as to avoid their capture and prosecution. There is the exact parallel in the US and now unfortunately Europe where when the law gets too hot for some of these wage slave smugglers, they too do just as their slaver forebears did in the 18th century and jettison their human loads. They do this by simply abandoning the enclosed and sealed van trailers on the side of the road or in parking lots
     
    What a bunch of scum to do something like that!!

    Replies: @V

  • Quite lengthy but excellent article. Always appreciate a spotlight on the sinister Zionist-SJW connection. And I don’t know what “Irish fever” is but I think I’ve got it.

    • Replies:@Alden
    @SunBakedSuburb

    In addition to rental property and investments, Lizzie Borden’s Father was a money lender who charged high interest rates.

    That’s why the police suspected the murderer was one of Borden’s many victims and easily believed Lizzie’s alibi at first.

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  • V says:

    It might be shocking to some, but the Radical Republicans of the US Civil War era would have fit right in with many of today’s sjw’s. Massachusetts was a major power center of these largely Anglo-Saxon ‘Radicals’. It was not coincidentally also historically a primary center of Puritanism, the slave trade in British North America, and reflective of that long dysfunctional relationship that has existed between the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish people, a primary power center of the Jewish people as well, all intertwined. So you had people there in the north-east that were used to not only owning slaves themselves, but of merchandising them as well. As the descendants of those African slaves will today often freely tell you themselves, they are quite different from those Anglo-Saxon and Jewish ancestried that brought them in to British North America. So you had persons there whom were quite used to owning slaves and merchandising these very different from their own people, all this being done within the context of most of the population not owning slaves, or dealing them, and having to suffer grievously with this practice, quite correctly historically referred to as ‘a scourge upon humanity’. So when chattel slavery and its trade was monetized in the latter 18th and early 19th century with the cheap labor/mass immigration system we have today, the very economic basis of the ideology of multiculturalism, people being creatures of habit continued just as they had before in the northeast where the ‘cheap labor’ system was first introduced. The former would be slave owners continued to prey upon defeated and broken peoples, often quite different from themselves, now rather than them being African (though in time that would come) as before, they might initially be Irish or French Quebec. The former would be slave dealers too would continue on as before, ie with a callous disregard towards their fellow man. As the British Empire and the US slowly but surely moved towards the complete adoption of the cheap labor/mass immigration system the slave dealers seamlessly moved in with their old slave ships to transport the now paying wage slaves (yes, they quite literally did at times simply use the former slavers). Just as with chattel slavery the wage slavery system retained its genocidal effects on both those preyed upon as a source and those by diktat whom are on the receiving end. Just as before with chattel slavery, the largely Anglo-Saxon population of the US would experience the genocidal effects of this wage slavery scourge, now much accelerated, and unfortunately fail to separate themselves from these slavery addicted elites and hangers on, though sensing something was not right they would make an imperfect attempt to do so in the 1850’s with the Know Nothings.

    At first because the country was largely agricultural with family owned farms, and little industry, the very negative consequences of this newly introduced slavery wasn’t felt so much at first. However, even before industrialisation of the 1820’s and 1830’s took effect, this process of the physical displacement of the Anglo-Saxon general public and work force was taking place with the wage slavery system. This physical and cultural destruction was something that had been ongoing with chattel slavery, particularly in the US south, albeit at a slower pace, but would be greatly accelerated with the introduction of the wage slavery system (ie ‘cheap labor’ so called) due to its more virulent nature.

    As described below regarding the construction of the Erie Canal in the US north the local Anglo-Saxon work force was quickly displaced by imported Irish.

    The first diggers were [Anglo-Saxon] Americans…By 1818 Irishmen arrived to work on the canal and soon became the majority element in the workforce.

    The construction of the great Erie Canal began on July 4, 1817.

    The first diggers were Americans, hut it soon became apparent that the enormous project could not be accomplished with local farmers and farm workers who also needed to tend their fields.

    By 1818 Irishmen arrived to work on the canal and soon became the majority element in the workforce. They remained so for the next seven years of construction until the longest canal in the world (363 miles) was completed in the fall of 1825.

    Going on past the US Civil War which was quite literally the result of the clash between the chattel and wage slavery systems of the US south and north respectively, I’ll mention here something I read just recently. It involved the Borden family of Fall River, Massachusetts, ie the same family of the infamous Lizzie Borden. This family in 1893 was in today’s dollars worth multi-millions and was quite well off. A little over a hundred years or so before this Anglo-Saxon family would of been the same type or sort to either own chattel slaves or be involved with the slave trade, possibly both, in callous disregard to their own Anglo-Saxon people and the African slave’s people as well. Whether or not the Borden family owned slaves in the 18th century they were continuing the tradition of all too many of their class with just the little bit I read. The family had an Irish ‘immigrant’ maid, and a worker who briefly stopped by their house, was also an ‘immigrant’ from Portugal who worked IIRC in a textile plant that the Borden family had investments in.

    Not coincidentally regarding this slave history Mass has been historically the center of US liberalism. Just as when in the past they would ostentatiously at times ‘dote’ upon their chattel slaves in front of their slave owning friends and associates, with the occasional small gift, not truly caring enough about the slaves nor their own to free them or stop the practice mind you, they still dote upon their wage slave immigrants today with no regard for the other whom they exploit or their own. Now though instead of using their own funds for these gifts they use your money instead in what (then and now) is a rather pathetic attempt to boost their self worth in both their own eyes and the eyes of others. And of course just as with their chattel slaves, they ‘care’ about their wage slave immigrants to the extent they can systematically steal the value of their labor. Which all explains the cynical development of the ‘sanctuary city’ and now entire state with California, to attract as many wage slaves as possible to those places.

    Getting back to Massachusetts this largely Puritan colony was the initial home of Stanley Ann Dunham’s family on her father’s side in the 17th century. Ann Dunham is Barack Obama’s mother of course. The family in time would move to Indiana, and then Kansas in the 1800’s, where Ann was born. Kansas was it will be recalled the preliminary to the US Civil War in the latter 1850’s where advocates of wage and chattel slavery from the US north and south respectively would fight it out. Whether Ann Dunham’s northern family was a part of that I don’t know, but if they were it would certainly fit the pattern. Ann Dunham would then go on to be raised in liberal Washington state, bearing in mind those Puritan minded (now often liberal minded) of the northeast tended to go straight west when they migrated and very often ended up in the northwest. Ann Dunham then went to college in Hawaii, met a certain person from Africa, and the rest is history.

    Lastly, I came across a website linked below regarding chattel slavery in the north. The creator of the site couldn’t understand why so few knew chattel slavery had existed in the US north, and not just the south. Indeed at the start of the US Civil War in 1861 there were legally owned chattel slaves in the north, ie New Jersey. I’ll submit a reason as to why this historical denial exist, particularly in regards to New England as to the existance of chattel slavery in the north. I think they could deal with elements among them having owned slaves and that all too many of these slave owners were slave dealers as well, if that was it, if that was all. Hey, mistakes happen even with the best of people. But that’s just it, that was not all there was to it, as I think that despite their denial that deep in their hearts they realize that chattel slavery and its trade was simply monetized with the wage slavery system (ie ‘cheap labor’ so called) and thatthey still are heavily involved in this genocidal and destructive business. Chattel slavery was abolished, but slavery itself, the essence of which is simply the systematic theft of the value of an individual’s labor, continues on stronger and more virulent than ever in the much more efficient and profitable wage slavery system with its required perpetual ‘mass immigration.’ It certainly bothers them a great deal that people once hearing that the north had chattel slaves might notice what appeared roughly coinciding with its fading away, the ahistorical phenomena known as ‘mass immigration’. And that a person could then connect the dots and realize that ‘the immigrant’ in the multi-cultural society, whether unskilled or not, and while working below what would be the prevailing local cost of the labor without the said ‘immigration’, indeed the whole point of the ‘immigrant’ being imported in, performs exactly the same role and function that the chattel slave did, whether unskilled or skilled. What’s worse though, if they were not in denial about it, they would have to look into their own hearts, and that apparently terrifies them. Rather than do the healthy thing, ie face it squarely, and deal with it head on, correcting past and current errors as best as possible, and choose life, apparently those Anglo-Saxon elites and hangers on involved historically with chattel and wage slavery instead choose to hate themselves while simultaneously projecting this hatred upon others, and commit a type of suicide. It’s bad enough they do that but the sjw types, like the person who commits a murder suicide, wants to take others with them. Is that what Ann Dunham did, having internalized this self destructive mind set of the north-eastern wage slaving elites and their hangers on, though her own family (like most) may well not have engaged in any way in the chattel or wage slave systems, when she willfully chose to wreck her life, get impregnated as she did, and give birth to Barack Obama?

    When the minutemen marched off to face the redcoats at Lexington [Mass] in 1775, the wives, boys and old men they left behind in Framingham took up axes, clubs, and pitchforks and barred themselves in their homes because of a widespread, and widely credited, rumor that the local slaves planned to rise up and massacre the white inhabitants while the militia was away.[2]

    In Connecticut in the 1950s, when I was growing up, the only slavery discussed in my history textbook was southern; New Englanders had marched south to end slavery. It was in Rhode Island, where I lived after 1964, that I first stumbled across an obscure reference to local slavery, but almost no one I asked knew anything about it…

    http://patflannery.com/IrishHistory/ErieCanal.htm#Top

    http://slavenorth.com/

  • V says:

    I would have to add plain greed into the equation regarding the abolition of chattel slavery, not to knock the sincerity of ‘reformers’, whom at best were acting naively at the ultimate behest of those very same powerful elements of the elites of the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish people whom were directing chattel slavery and its global trade at the time via the British Empire.

    In the latter 18th and early 19th century, reflective of the ‘free market’ Capitalism spirit of the day, chattel slavery and its trade was quite simply and literallymonetized with the introduction of the cheap labor/mass immigration system we have today, much more accurately described historically aswage slavery. It was a much more efficient and profitable way to go about systematically stealing the value of an individual’s labor directly through their pay (and hence the termwage slavery) as compared to the antiquated and cumbersomechattel slavery system, the essence of slavery being the systematic theft of the individual’s labor. It is this systematic theft of labor via wage slavery which forms the very economic basis of the modern multi-cultural society, a society which closely parallels a chattel slave holding one. It is not at all a coincidence that the countries which are the hotbeds of and promoters of the wage slavery based cult/ideology of multiculturalism today, the Anglosphere, were also part of the British Empire which some two hundred plus years ago dominated the global trade in slaves.

    Bear in mind when I use the term ‘wage slavery’ I am specifically using it in the way it was used historically and much more accurately in regards to what is called by that term of propoganda ‘cheap labor’, an innocuous sounding term which was invented by the slave dealers and merchandisers in the early 1800’s to sell the general public on this poison, and which is a phenomena characterized by ‘the immigant’ and ahistorical ‘mass immigration’. I am not using the term (wage slavery) in reference to legitimate and generic wage labor, which at times might consist of somewhat low pay, where those of a ‘red’ persuasion have all too readily much abused it.

    The British Empire, acting in conjunction with the US north-eastern states and its Northwestern Territory, and simultaneous with chattel slavery’s not coincidental abolition in the latter 1780’s, 1790’s, and early to mid 19th century, were the first to apply chattel slavery and its trade monetized, ie wage slavery. It seems it was the United States though, much to the very great harm of its then predominantly Anglo-Saxon population, that would get the first heavy doses of it. Just as with chattel slavery in British North America, this new slavery was put in place by diktat, and just as with chattel slavery, this new monetized slavery would have genocidal effects (now much enhanced due to the much greater level of predation taking place) both on those peoples preyed upon as a source and those peoples whom by diktat are on the receiving end. Slavery, whether it be its chattel or monetized variant, has with great reason quite correctly been called historically ‘a scourge upon humanity’.

    One should be aware that at the founding of the US in 1776 that chattel slavery and its trade existed throughout the British North American colonies, north and south. The north had slaves as well, albeit fewer than the south due to climate, and tended for a variety of reasons to be more market and commerce orientated. It was the northeastern colonies, and later states, in particular Massachusetts, which more or less ‘ran the show’ as to the marketing and distribution of the slaves, ie they were the slave dealers in British North America. Ships have to be built, insurance provided for said ships and slave cargo, fees paid for the slave’s sale, etc. Generally when there’s a product that’s bad, such as drugs or slaves, it’s the dealer that’s considered worse as compared to the consumer. The north won the US Civil War of 1861-1865, a war which in reality was a result of the clash between these two systems of slavery, and the victors write the history books, so you don’t read or hear about these aspects. Had the southern states won, we’d probably hear the slaves just about wanted to be in their condition of servitude and it was a grand thing for all, white and black, though that’s certainly not the case and ultimately had the south won the war I think it would have resulted in the same situation we have today.

    As for the person who owns slaves, driven by self-centered and short sighted monetary interest, and a callous disregard towards both the slave and towards their own (slave owner’s) people, there is a refusal to pay the local cost of labor to one of their own. You have the exact same phenomena when the former would be slave owner/dealer ‘imports’ a cheap laborer, ie ‘the immigrant’ rather than employ one of their own. They are getting no doubt less of a ‘hit’ of unpaid labor with the ‘imported’ immigrant, ie maybe fifty percent or twenty-five percent below what was or would be the prevailing local labor cost (without the ‘mass immigration’) to pay one of their own, compared to say seventy or eighty percent below local labor cost with a chattel slave, but they no longer have to pay the ‘overhead’ costs such as housing, clothing, care of the slave in their unproductive old age, etc, all of which was no doubt a great trouble to the slave owner. With the wage slave cheap laborer, they also no longer have be concerned about the occasional worrisome slave revolt on their property, that, as with the old age cost of care of the chattel slave, is now ‘outsourced’ to (ie dumped upon) the non-exploiting general public to deal with in sporadic rioting and looting in the cities and greatly increased charity and public welfare expenses. Concerns about family bloodlines of slave owners getting ‘mixed’ with the chattel slaves whom were housed in relative close proximity was also alleviated with the wage slave (ie cheap labor) system, that concern too now having been outsourced to the general public to deal with. It’s true that in time the wages of the cheap laborer may well go up and that he or she moves on, but that’s no problem, as the former would be slave owner simply hires a replacement wage slave, and hence the deliberately uncontrolled borders and lax immigration policies which provide a nearly continuos flow of ‘immigrants’.

    One should not forget that wage slavery also has a secondary effect, that of depressing wages in general in whatever field the ‘cheap laborers’ are employed, which closely parallels the reports of virtual economic depressions in the countryside surrounding the southern plantations amongst the slave owner’s own (non-slave owning) people…you know, the people whom all too often would get slapped with the label ‘white trash’ by the slave owners, just as these same lower class or underclass whites today are all too often slapped with the same label by their own whom import wage slave ‘immigrants’ as cheap laborers rather than employ their own. The vast majority of the public then did not own slaves, but rather had to suffer greatly with it, just as most today don’t prey upon and exploit an imported ‘immigrant’ as a wage slave, ie a ‘cheap laborer’, and also have to suffer with it. Most people then and now do their own physical manual labor. This would explain why a huge number of unskilled jobs in the US start out and often remain at a nearly unliveable ten dollars an hour range.

    Lastly, but quite importantly to the morale of the would be slave owner/dealer of the past, with the cheap labor/mass immigration system they now get to play act that they are the good guys, all while still getting their ‘hit’ of unpaid labor with the ‘immigrant’. With the cheap labor/mass immigration system they have outsourced most of the negatives of chattel slavery, including its genocidal aspects, to the general non-exploiting public and have with the sjw largely conditioned this public with the cult ideology of multi-culturalism that this is all good for them and to embrace it. They’ve even outsourced the blame for chattel slavery on that historically generally non-slave owning public, of whom both the chattel and now wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’ so called) systems have been imposed by diktat. From their vantage point, the former would be slave owners/dealers get to have their cake and eat it too.

  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    @Malla

    Well, This is an interesting discussion. Hope Singh never jumps in again.

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    Any of my comments which counter his points with references get blocked by mods।।

    Only solution is trampling underneath elephants।।

    You two can have your weird discussion.

    Enlightenment values are the reason whites are facing self destruction & this suicidal ricebag wants us to import them।।

    A plurality of christians have converted for money many times just a bag of rice. Hence, the pejorative।।

    • Replies:@Alden
    @Anon

    You are Singh the Hindu extremist that wants to bring back Sati. Of course the mods block your comments.

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  • While Marxism has historically attracted society’s very worst to its cause…painfully unattractive societal misfits — the obese, degenerates and outcasts.

    Couldn’t help but be reminded here of Winston’s co-worker, Parsons, at the Ministry of Truth in the book1984.

    ‘…one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the Thought Police, the stability of the Party depended.’

    Parsons was Winston’s fellow-employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralysing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms — one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the Thought Police, the stability of the Party depended. At thirty-five he had just been unwillingly evicted from the Youth League, and before graduating into the Youth League he had managed to stay on in the Spies for a year beyond the statutory age. At the Ministry he was employed in some subordinate post for which intelligence was not required, but on the other hand he was a leading figure on the Sports Committee and all the other committees engaged in organizing community hikes, spontaneous demonstrations, savings campaigns, and voluntary activities generally. He would inform you with quiet pride, between whiffs of his pipe, that he had put in an appearance at the Community Centre every evening for the past four years. An overpowering smell of sweat, a sort of unconscious testimony to the strenuousness of his life, followed him about wherever he went, and even remained behind him after he had gone.

    http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/1.html

    • Replies:@Alden
    @V

    “Mass of imbecile enthusiasm” that’s SJWs

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  • @Malla
    @Alden


    But surely there is a faster and more effective way to commit suicide than jumping into a fire. With rapists knocking down the door, who has time to find firewood and oil? A sharp knife would be more efficient
     
    Yeah that is true if you are say a peasant women who was suddenly surprised by a muslim rapist but I think as far as Jauhar is concerned (Jauhar is different from Sati), I think it was more common among women of the royal household and their female consorts who lived in hill forts and thus had advanced knowledge of the coming victorious Islamic army. There are these Hindu/Sikh queen/princesses/ female servants/consorts of the royal household, messengers shout out the devastating news that the king and the top Hindu/Sikh generals are defeated and most probably fallen in battle, the huge victorious Islamic army is on the way to your hill fortress with no leader to protect you or the masses. The battlefields would have been quite a distance from the hill fort (the desert state of Rajastan in India, is full of these hill forts) and thus it would take a considerable amount of time for the huge Islamic army to arrive at the fort and the towns around. There would be enough time to set up a funeral pyre. Maybe there were religious factors involved too.

    It’s also my opinion that there was a lot of weird sex sadism and the low caste men thrilled that a princess was dying a horrible death.
     
    That is possible.

    That Singh/anon must have a search engine that spots the the words Hindu Sati etc and then he invaded the discussion
     
    LOL, do not worry about him. What is so crazy about Hindu fundamentalists like him is to blame the British, for every vice which the British actually stopped.

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    This is a good video on Jauhar. There was something called Jauhar and Saka (Saca – Scythain, the term might have come from ancient Scythian rulers of India as Rajputs had Scythian ancestry) where the royal family would perform a harakari of sorts with the women jumping into fire and the men going to the battlefield to fight to the death. This was in those cases when the chance of victory was nil.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soQkKBqq6uc
    Video Link

  • @Alden
    @Malla

    I remember thexSati of Roop Kanwar. The motivation was not religious. The priests and the family wanted to set up a shrine and develop a lucrative tourist/ pilgrimage trade.

    All governments have problems. But India has the additional problem of stamping out the revival of Sati.

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    The priests and the family wanted to set up a shrine and develop a lucrative tourist/ pilgrimage trade.

    In India, many temples are richer than many corporations. V.S. Naipaul, the Nobel laureate of Indian descent but born in the Caribbean wrote in his first book on India, the land of his ancestors, ‘India is a land of corrupt priests, rich temples and poor devotees’

    • Replies:@anon
    @Malla

    All the temples are under gov control & looted to build churches||

  • @Malla
    @Alden


    But surely there is a faster and more effective way to commit suicide than jumping into a fire. With rapists knocking down the door, who has time to find firewood and oil? A sharp knife would be more efficient
     
    Yeah that is true if you are say a peasant women who was suddenly surprised by a muslim rapist but I think as far as Jauhar is concerned (Jauhar is different from Sati), I think it was more common among women of the royal household and their female consorts who lived in hill forts and thus had advanced knowledge of the coming victorious Islamic army. There are these Hindu/Sikh queen/princesses/ female servants/consorts of the royal household, messengers shout out the devastating news that the king and the top Hindu/Sikh generals are defeated and most probably fallen in battle, the huge victorious Islamic army is on the way to your hill fortress with no leader to protect you or the masses. The battlefields would have been quite a distance from the hill fort (the desert state of Rajastan in India, is full of these hill forts) and thus it would take a considerable amount of time for the huge Islamic army to arrive at the fort and the towns around. There would be enough time to set up a funeral pyre. Maybe there were religious factors involved too.

    It’s also my opinion that there was a lot of weird sex sadism and the low caste men thrilled that a princess was dying a horrible death.
     
    That is possible.

    That Singh/anon must have a search engine that spots the the words Hindu Sati etc and then he invaded the discussion
     
    LOL, do not worry about him. What is so crazy about Hindu fundamentalists like him is to blame the British, for every vice which the British actually stopped.

    Replies: @Alden, @Malla

    Well, This is an interesting discussion. Hope Singh never jumps in again.

    • Replies:@Anon
    @Alden

    Any of my comments which counter his points with references get blocked by mods।।

    Only solution is trampling underneath elephants।।

    You two can have your weird discussion.

    Enlightenment values are the reason whites are facing self destruction & this suicidal ricebag wants us to import them।।

    A plurality of christians have converted for money many times just a bag of rice. Hence, the pejorative।।

    Replies: @Alden

  • @Malla
    @Anon


    It’s a fact that majority of the students in Takshila & Nalanda university were Shudra. If you read Fa Hien, Chinese Traveler and Megasthenes, Selucid Diplomat, accounts of India you will change your tune.
     
    Obviously many of the students at Nalanda and Takshila Universities were Shudras as both those universities were Buddhist and not Hindu. I did read Fa Hien and Megasthenes many times. However the problems in India started when the Brahmans for same strange reason started behaving like Jews and not Aryans, like the Aryan Brahmans and other upper castes of the earlier Vedic period who were noble (Did Jews from Babylon area come and interbreed with our Brahmins and merchant baniyas? Who knows). Buddhism brought about a short golden period in India only to be destroyed by Brahmins, Jewish style using cunning, deceit, lies and brutality. But unfortunately for the Brahmins, as soon as they were nearly finishing Buddhism off, the Islamic hordes barged into India and went on a killing, raping, looting spree until Mughal Emperors like Akbar stabilized the country into a working government. And then we have huge Hindus and Muslims and Sikhs armies killing each other, the country was a WWE championship of massive armies and wars, devastating the land and soon the Europeans (Portuguese, Dutch, French, Danes and the finally the British) joined in the mega war-fest party. And not to mention the periodic Afghan intrusions into India to loot and plunder it's immense riches in jewelry, gems and gold as well as to get slaves. But it was only after the British conquered the whole subcontinent that civilised rule really return for the masses after centuries.

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    I forgot to add

    But unfortunately for the Brahmins, as soon as they were nearly finishing Buddhism off, the Islamic hordes barged into India and went on a killing, raping, looting spree(and beautiful Indian Hindu princesses went on a suicide spree by jumping into fire pits to save themselves from the hands of ugly creepy Arab barbarian rapists who smelled of camel dung) until Mughal Emperors like Akbar stabilized the country into a working government.

  • During the period that Britain ruled over India, from roughly 1800 to roughly 1950, the population of India increased from 180 million to 400 million. Whenever someone claims that the British presence was to the detriment of Indians ask them to explain that fact, and don’t let them change the subject.

    Look at the economic growth during that period. It was stagnant for decades. The white population in Western countries is also increasing so how is multiculturalism or mass immigration to your detriment. Don’t change the subject

    If the current situation in the West reflected the situation in India in the period in question, I’d have a lot fewer problems with it. But the situation in the West does not at all reflect the situation in India in the period in question. Quite the opposite. Assuming the stats are correct (you didn’t challenge them), Indians saw an enormous increase in population and a relatively tiny influx of White people. Native Westerners are seeing the opposite; very small increases in population size and a relatively huge influx of non-Whites.

    Britain made the church largest land owner in India

    I’m guessing there’s an apples and oranges thing going on here. Were Indian religions or institutions legally constituted the same way as the Church? That is, was all the real estate owned by [native Indian religion or institution here] consolidated legally under one roof? This sounds like a mere cultural/legal difference. Which is not to say that an Indian has no right to complain about foreign religions intruding into their living spaces. Obviously they do have.

    To root for a just one section of humanity and disregard the rest is racism. You can call it what you like and you can feel free to abuse anyone.

    The word “abuse” seems misplaced here; the only way to make the first sentence work is to define “racism” as, at least, not a bad thing. Because there’s absolutely nothing wrong, whatsoever, with rooting for just one section of humanity and disregarding the rest. Not that most “racists” even do that, mind you; for the vast majority, it’s simply a matter of prioritizing their group first, everyone else second. This is normal human behavior. To characterize it as “abuse” or somehow wrong is misanthropic.

    To really look at your adversary and talk is to be human. It will enrich you. It matters not if you are are black, white yellow or brown.

    Indeed. This is one of the better reasons to utterly annihilate leftism.

    Bring all your people back from the americas & australia then preach about racism casteism dirty Melech।।

    Oh, I dunno. I think we’ve been in those places long enough that they’re ours. To say nothing of the fact that Whites tamed and civilized the places, the same way your ancestors migrated to, then tamed and civilized your homeland. Dot-Indians should probably keep their traps shut about it, given how fond they have become of immigrating here, since Whitey finished all the heavy lifting.

    However, Christianity has one glaring negative externality, and that is Zionism. And this is just far too huge to excuse. It is a curse of immense magnitude.

    Christianity has given way to Christian heresies, leftist heresy and Zionist heresy foremost among them. I think this is merely a sign of the weakening of Christianity, and the ascendance of leftism and Jewry.

    FYI when the Europeans burnt people convicted of various crimes to death they weren’t really burnt. When they were tied to the stake they were strangled

    Interesting – first time I’m hearing this. Source?

    • Replies:@Alden
    @Svigor

    Numerous sources in history books in every library. The internet might or might not have something about it.

  • @Anon
    Untouchability is not found historically in Hinduism. Rajputs had marital alliances with Bhils, Iklavya's family did as well.

    Sage Valmiki Was Reformed from being outcaste.

    Nyara Sutra as Mahabharat is knowledge of a butcher.

    The Pandavs went Sri Krishna Ji himself to welcome a Shudra family.

    Many of the Dalits are actually from upper caste individuals who were made outcaste by muslims.

    An example is the policy of forcing Ksytrias to carry the waste of muslims on their head. The punishment for this in Manusmriti is banishment of both who do this.

    Same Manusmriti says it is law to give land to one who tills it. Nothing in feudalism which came with islam

    Untouchability is recent phenomenon sometimes say after 15th C AD widespread. Likely came with Khiljis

    Why don't you read of their brutality? Like how tughlaq moved the capital many times and anyone not able to keep up was killed.

    It's a fact that the largest genocide in history is the Hindu genocide in the muslim invasions. The british policy of creating famine where rebellious tendencies existed & then sending in missionaries to split the society is well known.

    A curious paradox is many converts are from the upper castes. This is true in Islam in the famous Madras famine half the Dalits of the city starved not one converted.

    Certainly there were Brahmin collaborators but much of the vitriol against them is written by and for those ignorant of Hindu civilization.

    Example they talk of Brahmin wealth when a good Brahmin is one who begs. In compiling a list of oppressed castes in the Delhi Punjab area Guru Gobind Singh Ji famously included Brahmins there.

    It's a fact that majority of the students in Takshila & Nalanda university were Shudra. If you read Fa Hien, Chinese Traveler and Megasthenes, Selucid Diplomat, accounts of India you will change your tune.

    Both said the Indian common man is the most prosperous and care free in the world. What changed after was incessant incursion by Turks.

    Our Rishis recognized the inherent inequality of man, even Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji says Varna comes from Akal Purakh.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/06/the-genetic-limits-of-social-mobility/

    http://www.socialmatter.net/2016/12/16/a-brief-defense-of-the-hereditarian-caste-system/

    http://thefutureprimaeval.net/material-and-social-technologies/

    Even the Celts had Sati it's an old Indo European tradition and existed where women had more value actually. In places where women had greater status and honor than say Greece/Rome (non existent) vs German/Norse & Celtic.

    You should read the stories of young widows both during British & Mughal times. One Widow in front of Akbar burnt her own arm to a crisp to protest her not being allowed to Sati & he had to relent।।

    In front of the Brits a young 16 year Widow of Bengal burnt her own finger off with a candle, the officer got out of the way, and she became Sati.

    Sati Mata Ki Jai!

    If you understand the mosaic distinction or the idea that all philosophy before us or outside our tradition is false, then you would have no kind words for Christianity, Islam, Judaism or Liberalism.

    They prevent the vertical transfer of knowledge

    https://devayasna.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/religion-counter-religion-and-the-weirdness-of-modernity
    http://thefutureprimaeval.net/a-short-argument-for-traditions/

    It is a Brahmin job to preserve tradition although there have been many reformers it is more so the Ksytria job to guide & reform society.

    Why do you not bring up the countless Brahmin freedom fighters & social reformers? Bhakti Saints.

    We are the only ones who can show our face to the world. A bunch of melech Abrahamics worshipping the destroyers of their ancestors have no say.

    Understand the difference between no salvation without Mohammad Christ vs All Paths lead to the same destination.

    https://vajrin.wordpress.com/2012/11/25/sarva-dharma-samabhava-an-astika-view/

    Read Sikh scripture Uggardanti Sahib

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6L9le5gF5bldUYyRnVwdXprQ1E/view?usp=drivesdk

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170404132933/https://www.manglacharan.com/manglacharan/2016/1/11/the-merit-of-being-of-warrior-from-dasam-and-sarbloh-granth

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/praise-of-devi-dasam-granth

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/sarbloh-avtar-s-updesh-to-indra

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/the-reason-for-blue-bana-bansavalinama-1768

    Dadu, in contemplating the state of our Age of Darkness, if one hits you with a mud brick, ferociously strike back with a stone bolder."

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/forgiveness-or-force-by-guru-gobind-singh

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/this-is-how-the-singhs-fought-gur-sobha-1711

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/worshipping-weapons-passage-from-suraj-prakash

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/ugardanthi-explanation-bansavalinama
    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/importance-of-the-kamarkasa

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/form-of-sarbloh-avtar

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/lineage-and-shastarvidiya

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/dussherra-importance-in-sikhi

    It's a fact that the west wants us to be a bastard race, like Filipinos & Latin Americans, who export women & their best abroad.

    It's a fact that muslim want us as slaves & eunuchs in their haram.

    Start doing weightlifting like stronglifts.com or starting Strength we know due to demographics there will come civil war to India within 2 decades.

    It's fact that not even west will give 20 lakh scholarship to abrahamic student for study like telangana does।।

    Guru Sahib has opened the path for Ksytria if you don't take it you will be ever regretful.

    If you're a Coward then we're done here.

    The Devas of every people have long hair & Weapons।।

    Guru Sahib has spoken that consider a man with Hair but no weapons as half a man।।

    Your heart is in the right place, A China who can destroy the Hindu Buddhist kingdoms of Xinjiang & create Muslim Malaysia Indonesia, An Islam that can enslave Crores, A Christian world can genocide 2 entire continents but it's the Brahmin who lives on alms who cannot show his face.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    Replies: @Reverend Spooner, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla

    It’s a fact that majority of the students in Takshila & Nalanda university were Shudra. If you read Fa Hien, Chinese Traveler and Megasthenes, Selucid Diplomat, accounts of India you will change your tune.

    Obviously many of the students at Nalanda and Takshila Universities were Shudras as both those universities were Buddhist and not Hindu. I did read Fa Hien and Megasthenes many times. However the problems in India started when the Brahmans for same strange reason started behaving like Jews and not Aryans, like the Aryan Brahmans and other upper castes of the earlier Vedic period who were noble (Did Jews from Babylon area come and interbreed with our Brahmins and merchant baniyas? Who knows). Buddhism brought about a short golden period in India only to be destroyed by Brahmins, Jewish style using cunning, deceit, lies and brutality. But unfortunately for the Brahmins, as soon as they were nearly finishing Buddhism off, the Islamic hordes barged into India and went on a killing, raping, looting spree until Mughal Emperors like Akbar stabilized the country into a working government. And then we have huge Hindus and Muslims and Sikhs armies killing each other, the country was a WWE championship of massive armies and wars, devastating the land and soon the Europeans (Portuguese, Dutch, French, Danes and the finally the British) joined in the mega war-fest party. And not to mention the periodic Afghan intrusions into India to loot and plunder it’s immense riches in jewelry, gems and gold as well as to get slaves. But it was only after the British conquered the whole subcontinent that civilised rule really return for the masses after centuries.

    • Replies:@Malla
    @Malla

    I forgot to add

    But unfortunately for the Brahmins, as soon as they were nearly finishing Buddhism off, the Islamic hordes barged into India and went on a killing, raping, looting spree(and beautiful Indian Hindu princesses went on a suicide spree by jumping into fire pits to save themselves from the hands of ugly creepy Arab barbarian rapists who smelled of camel dung) until Mughal Emperors like Akbar stabilized the country into a working government.

  • Why this article was trolled by hindudindus? Don’t hindudindus have some place to post their nonsense?

  • @Alden
    @Malla

    Muslims kidnapped European women into slavery as we all know. The Turks even sent ships to Iceland and Greenland

    But surely there is a faster and more effective way to commit suicide than jumping into a fire. With rapists knocking down the door, who has time to find firewood and oil? A sharp knife would be more efficient

    I’m a practical person, not a philosopher. So I thought of the practicalities like inheritance and for the poor another mouth to feed

    It’s also my opinion that there was a lot of weird sex sadism and the low caste men thrilled that a princess was dying a horrible death.

    How did we get on this subject. That Singh/anon must have a search engine that spots the the words Hindu sati etc and then he invaded the discussion

    Replies: @Malla

    But surely there is a faster and more effective way to commit suicide than jumping into a fire. With rapists knocking down the door, who has time to find firewood and oil? A sharp knife would be more efficient

    Yeah that is true if you are say a peasant women who was suddenly surprised by a muslim rapist but I think as far as Jauhar is concerned (Jauhar is different from Sati), I think it was more common among women of the royal household and their female consorts who lived in hill forts and thus had advanced knowledge of the coming victorious Islamic army. There are these Hindu/Sikh queen/princesses/ female servants/consorts of the royal household, messengers shout out the devastating news that the king and the top Hindu/Sikh generals are defeated and most probably fallen in battle, the huge victorious Islamic army is on the way to your hill fortress with no leader to protect you or the masses. The battlefields would have been quite a distance from the hill fort (the desert state of Rajastan in India, is full of these hill forts) and thus it would take a considerable amount of time for the huge Islamic army to arrive at the fort and the towns around. There would be enough time to set up a funeral pyre. Maybe there were religious factors involved too.

    It’s also my opinion that there was a lot of weird sex sadism and the low caste men thrilled that a princess was dying a horrible death.

    That is possible.

    That Singh/anon must have a search engine that spots the the words Hindu Sati etc and then he invaded the discussion

    LOL, do not worry about him. What is so crazy about Hindu fundamentalists like him is to blame the British, for every vice which the British actually stopped.

    • Replies:@Alden
    @Malla

    Well, This is an interesting discussion. Hope Singh never jumps in again.

    Replies: @Anon

    ,@Malla
    @Malla

    This is a good video on Jauhar. There was something called Jauhar and Saka (Saca - Scythain, the term might have come from ancient Scythian rulers of India as Rajputs had Scythian ancestry) where the royal family would perform a harakari of sorts with the women jumping into fire and the men going to the battlefield to fight to the death. This was in those cases when the chance of victory was nil.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soQkKBqq6uc

  • @Wally
    @Da Wei

    said:
    "Third, the Colonial American slave trade involved a good many ships owned by Jews, indicating their involvement in profitable human trafficking ..."

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let's us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin - The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA
    Statue of Jew Confederate slave owner stands untouched in Florida
    https://revisionistreview.blogspot.it/2017/08/statue-of-judaic-confederate-slave.html
    fact:
    slavery of black Africans would have never happened without black Africans selling black African slaves
    "African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders' ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry"
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    "African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today."

    Replies: @Malla

    It seems the African chiefs made it clear that any African American can return and settle in West Africa. But as an African friend of mine explained what they really want is rich/ middle class African Americans to come to West Africa and spend or invest their dollars. I doubt they are interested in the Ghetto youths and besides, I do not know why any West African government would want hordes of those spoiled lazy ghetto youfs in their countries anyways.

  • @Malla
    @Alden


    What’s a rice bag? What do you have against rice?
     
    Sen is a Bengali surname. The diet of Bengalis (East Indians/Bangladeshis) and South Indians predominantly consists of rice while that of Western and Northern Indians as well as Pakistanis is predominantly wheat in the form of unleavened bread like roti/chapati.
    Singh is North Indian. Ricebag is a common derogatory term for Eastern and Southern Indians.

    Replies: @Alden

    Thanks

  • @Anon
    @Malla

    Phule was a convert & his hatred of Brahmins is the same as the abrahamic hatred of any Pagan priesthood https://t.co/BjnY4iVk1i?amp=1

    "The Pedagogy of Shalom: Theory and Contemporary Issues of a Faith-based Education"
    edited by HeeKap Lee, Paul Kaak

    https://t.co/KaM6gUSvzv?amp=1

    Jesus is King Bali according to Phule

    Replies: @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla

    This is the whole interview

    “It is very unfortunate that traditional Indian Christian theology has completely ignored Ambedkar while reflecting on the Christian faith in the Indian context. This is because most of these theologians have been of ‘ upper’ caste origin. So, instead of taking inspiration from people of Dalit or Shudra background like Ambedkar and Mahatma Phule, they used the writings of ‘ upper’ caste writers and reformers like Raja Ram Mohan Roy or Keshub Chandra Sen or Gandhi in order to develop a contextual Indian theology. This is so despite the fact that Ambedkar wrote extensively on the Christian faith and church history and their relationship with the Dalits. Similar is the case with Mahatma Phule. In his Gulamgiri ( Slavery’) Phule develops a very interesting concept of Christology, the person of Christ. He refers to the story of the non Aryan king Bali, whose kingdom was snatched by the Brahmin Vamana. Vamana goes on to rigidly enforce the law of caste, converting the natives into Untouchables and Shudras. Phule tells us that in rural Maharashtra the ordinary village folk still long for the return of the righteous rule of Raja Bali, and he identifies Jesus as Bali. He says that Jesus and his disciples, the Christians, have come to India to rescue the Dalits and Shudras from Aryan or Brahmin hegemony. All this has been ignored by ‘ upper’ caste Christian writers.”

  • @Malla
    @Alden


    Sati was always about money.
     
    That is true as far as the greedy priest (and some family members) were concerned .

    However an explanation of Sati can be found in the pages of the writings of the German philosopher Schopenhauer. It seems queens/wives would poison their much older husband to get their property and thus marry younger men. That might be one reason Sati and the ban on widow remarriage might have entered as social mores. I mean, by poisoning your husband, you are gonne die too or live a miserable life, it beats the whole purpose.

    However Jauhar is different. Islamic barbarian hordes would rape and capture khaffir women of defeated 'non believer' kingdoms to be sold into slavery. Such a scale of rape and slavery was unprecedented in Indian history before the coming of the Islamic hordes. And hence the culture of women jumping into fire to save their honour.

    Replies: @Alden

    Muslims kidnapped European women into slavery as we all know. The Turks even sent ships to Iceland and Greenland

    But surely there is a faster and more effective way to commit suicide than jumping into a fire. With rapists knocking down the door, who has time to find firewood and oil? A sharp knife would be more efficient

    I’m a practical person, not a philosopher. So I thought of the practicalities like inheritance and for the poor another mouth to feed

    It’s also my opinion that there was a lot of weird sex sadism and the low caste men thrilled that a princess was dying a horrible death.

    How did we get on this subject. That Singh/anon must have a search engine that spots the the words Hindu sati etc and then he invaded the discussion

    • Replies:@Malla
    @Alden


    But surely there is a faster and more effective way to commit suicide than jumping into a fire. With rapists knocking down the door, who has time to find firewood and oil? A sharp knife would be more efficient
     
    Yeah that is true if you are say a peasant women who was suddenly surprised by a muslim rapist but I think as far as Jauhar is concerned (Jauhar is different from Sati), I think it was more common among women of the royal household and their female consorts who lived in hill forts and thus had advanced knowledge of the coming victorious Islamic army. There are these Hindu/Sikh queen/princesses/ female servants/consorts of the royal household, messengers shout out the devastating news that the king and the top Hindu/Sikh generals are defeated and most probably fallen in battle, the huge victorious Islamic army is on the way to your hill fortress with no leader to protect you or the masses. The battlefields would have been quite a distance from the hill fort (the desert state of Rajastan in India, is full of these hill forts) and thus it would take a considerable amount of time for the huge Islamic army to arrive at the fort and the towns around. There would be enough time to set up a funeral pyre. Maybe there were religious factors involved too.

    It’s also my opinion that there was a lot of weird sex sadism and the low caste men thrilled that a princess was dying a horrible death.
     
    That is possible.

    That Singh/anon must have a search engine that spots the the words Hindu Sati etc and then he invaded the discussion
     
    LOL, do not worry about him. What is so crazy about Hindu fundamentalists like him is to blame the British, for every vice which the British actually stopped.

    Replies: @Alden, @Malla

  • @Malla
    @anonymous

    And Islam is one of those fake ideologies by Jewie to rile up the Arabs as Cannon fodder to destroy the ancient Persians and Byzantines. One of those ideologies for the goyim.

    Muslims have been used by Zionists for centuries to attain their aims.
    Besides, Islam itself was started by the ancestors of the Zionists to use Arabs as a tool to destroy the Persian and Byzantine Empires. This is the Persian Empire which saved the Jews from Babylon during the reign of Cyrus the Great, the same Persian Empire whose government the Zionists themselves controlled, the same Persian Empire where the Zionists of that time killed the Persian nationalist Haman and his sons. The Byzantines had barred Jews from any position of power or from banking however they were permitted to stay as normal subjects. The Byzantines had to go.

    http://thechristiansolution.com/tcs_book/SupportDocs_TCS/TCS158.htm

    http://www.thechristiansolution.com/Exilarch.html

    https://exposingthelieofislam.wordpress.com/the-truth-about-the-origins-and-spread-of-islam-how-the-jews-developed-the-program-of-islam-to-invade-and-destroy-the-east/

    Of course Islam, like Christianity, went out of their control and Islam became an Arab project and then a Muslim project including non Arab Muslims (Ajams) under the Abbasid Caliphate period

    Replies: @Alden

    Very interesting history. A lot of people claim Islam was a Jewish invention. There were a lot of Jews in that area in 600AD

  • @Alden
    @Singh

    Death before dishonor can be achieved in less bizarro sadistic ways For instance a large group of Greek women tied themselves and their children together and went over a cliff to escape slavery by the Turks. A countess Dracula jumped off the castle wall and killed her self when it looked like the Turks conquered the castke

    There is a famous statue of a Gual warrior defeated by the Romans. His wife is already dead and he is halfway through slitting his own throat

    And those sadistic horrible Satis were always a 3 day public spectacle and festivity arranged by the priests, not a Muslim rapist within hundreds of miles.

    Rape and prostitution? Clean up your own house first. It’s the Hindu parts of India where rape is rampant. There are plenty of Temples in India today where the child priestesses are prostitures.

    The British putting the widows into brothels? Few widows were young, what good is a middle aged women in a brothel? And the Indians not the British ran the brothels.

    The reason for Sati was financial ; kill the widow and inherit everything
    For the poor, one less mouth to feed.

    For the priests who arranged the Satis they were well paid, as clergy are paid for their services in every religion.

    For the vendors who went to the festivals, lots of money like all the vendors who follow carnivals, county fairs rodeos and other fairs and festivals world wide.

    Going from father’s harem to husband’s harem is bliss compared to Sati. Muslim oppression of women? Nothing compared to oppression by burning women alive and allegedly not drugged.

    FYI when the Europeans burnt people convicted of various crimes to death they weren’t really burnt. When they were tied to the stake they were strangled

    This really isn’t the place to advocate a return to extreme Hinduism and Sati. That movement belongs more in Hindu India where you can convert the back sliders.

    Are you sincere about this or do you own some companies that sell food and trinkets at festivals? Doesn’t India have enough festivals to keep your profits coming in?

    Different views and opinions, that’s what Unz is for.

    Replies: @Druid, @Malla

    Death before dishonor can be achieved in less bizarro sadistic ways For instance a large group of Greek women tied themselves and their children together and went over a cliff to escape slavery by the Turks. A countess Dracula jumped off the castle wall and killed her self when it looked like the Turks conquered the castke

    Sati is different from Jauhar. Sati was during peacetimes and thus not needed. Jauhar was during times of Islamic hordes outside your gate salivating for rape and capture. Thus to save honour, Hindu/Jain/Sikh women would jump into a giant fire. Since the bodies of Hindus after death was burnt anyways, so it just made sense to jump into a fire pit itself. Women of Hindu/Sikh royal households were especially prized for rape (reserved for the Muslim invading Sultan) or to be added into harems of Muslim kings or would fetch large sums of money when sold (only affordable for Sultans and Muslim kings or very rich merchants).Jumping into a funeral pit seemed like a better option.

    What is strange is that Jauhar was most common amongst the Rajputs whose male side of the ancestry hailed from Central Asia (Scythains, Kushanas, Khambojas, White Huns etc…) and the conquering hordes were often Mughals/Turks who too hailed from Central Asia. But of course, by then the demographics of Central Asia had changed quite a lot thanks to the Mongol Empire and the spreading of Islam. ‘Mughal’ is the Persian word for Mongol though the Mughals were a mix of Mongols, Uzbeks, Uighurs and Turks.

  • @Alden
    @Singh

    What’s a rice bag? What do you have against rice? Is it something like the rice vs noodle cooking of China carried to insane extremes?

    Replies: @Malla

    What’s a rice bag? What do you have against rice?

    Sen is a Bengali surname. The diet of Bengalis (East Indians/Bangladeshis) and South Indians predominantly consists of rice while that of Western and Northern Indians as well as Pakistanis is predominantly wheat in the form of unleavened bread like roti/chapati.
    Singh is North Indian. Ricebag is a common derogatory term for Eastern and Southern Indians.

    • Replies:@Alden
    @Malla

    Thanks

  • @Alden
    @Malla

    Sati was always about money. That’s why the Indian government criminalized any and all profiteering and attempts to profit from Sati

    Replies: @Malla

    Sati was always about money.

    That is true as far as the greedy priest (and some family members) were concerned .

    However an explanation of Sati can be found in the pages of the writings of the German philosopher Schopenhauer. It seems queens/wives would poison their much older husband to get their property and thus marry younger men. That might be one reason Sati and the ban on widow remarriage might have entered as social mores. I mean, by poisoning your husband, you are gonne die too or live a miserable life, it beats the whole purpose.

    However Jauhar is different. Islamic barbarian hordes would rape and capture khaffir women of defeated ‘non believer’ kingdoms to be sold into slavery. Such a scale of rape and slavery was unprecedented in Indian history before the coming of the Islamic hordes. And hence the culture of women jumping into fire to save their honour.

    • Replies:@Alden
    @Malla

    Muslims kidnapped European women into slavery as we all know. The Turks even sent ships to Iceland and Greenland

    But surely there is a faster and more effective way to commit suicide than jumping into a fire. With rapists knocking down the door, who has time to find firewood and oil? A sharp knife would be more efficient

    I’m a practical person, not a philosopher. So I thought of the practicalities like inheritance and for the poor another mouth to feed

    It’s also my opinion that there was a lot of weird sex sadism and the low caste men thrilled that a princess was dying a horrible death.

    How did we get on this subject. That Singh/anon must have a search engine that spots the the words Hindu sati etc and then he invaded the discussion

    Replies: @Malla

  • @anonymous
    A tedious essay of deceit about the "goodness" of christian missionaries. Laughable. These purveyors of hearsay and delusions were driven mainly by white supremacy, and the purely racist notion of "the white man's burden."

    And, many hindutva terrorist ass-lickers here providing their own version of alternative facts. You see, they love the orange scumbag, due to his unabashed Islamophobia, and also because he is as much a degenerate as they all are. Proof of this can be found in their "man-idols," the mass murderers they elected to the highest offices of the land. A pox on all of them.


    Islamophobes, remember the following;

    Islam means complete submission to God, and only God; the One, Infinite and Unique. Monotheism in the true sense of the word.

    As much as you all like to portray Islam as some medieval faith for barbarians only, the core idea of True Monotheism is the most logical comprehension of our Creator, and has transcended the test of time. That is, it has proven to be irrefutable...if you are a theist.

    In this, Islam stands alone on rock-solid ground. It is your polytheist faiths, sinking in quicksand, rooted in human\animal worship, which have basis in dawn-age beliefs.


    Heck, the hindus don't even have physical proof of their deities' existence, given themyths that they walked this Earth and frolicked much; except for pathetically dubious "proofs," such as this one, the "image" of Shiva formed by snow-on-rock, on the side of some cliff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBo8vfl4vU

    Similar dubious proofs of the existence of Krishna and Ram have been cooked up too, and swallowed hook, line and sinker, by thedesperate faithful.

    Replies: @Druid, @Druid, @Malla, @Malla

    Krishna & Ram might be myths. Who is to say Mohammed was not? Did Prophet Mohammed even exist?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dlXCrpKTt0
    Video Link

  • @anonymous
    A tedious essay of deceit about the "goodness" of christian missionaries. Laughable. These purveyors of hearsay and delusions were driven mainly by white supremacy, and the purely racist notion of "the white man's burden."

    And, many hindutva terrorist ass-lickers here providing their own version of alternative facts. You see, they love the orange scumbag, due to his unabashed Islamophobia, and also because he is as much a degenerate as they all are. Proof of this can be found in their "man-idols," the mass murderers they elected to the highest offices of the land. A pox on all of them.


    Islamophobes, remember the following;

    Islam means complete submission to God, and only God; the One, Infinite and Unique. Monotheism in the true sense of the word.

    As much as you all like to portray Islam as some medieval faith for barbarians only, the core idea of True Monotheism is the most logical comprehension of our Creator, and has transcended the test of time. That is, it has proven to be irrefutable...if you are a theist.

    In this, Islam stands alone on rock-solid ground. It is your polytheist faiths, sinking in quicksand, rooted in human\animal worship, which have basis in dawn-age beliefs.


    Heck, the hindus don't even have physical proof of their deities' existence, given themyths that they walked this Earth and frolicked much; except for pathetically dubious "proofs," such as this one, the "image" of Shiva formed by snow-on-rock, on the side of some cliff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBo8vfl4vU

    Similar dubious proofs of the existence of Krishna and Ram have been cooked up too, and swallowed hook, line and sinker, by thedesperate faithful.

    Replies: @Druid, @Druid, @Malla, @Malla

    And Islam is one of those fake ideologies by Jewie to rile up the Arabs as Cannon fodder to destroy the ancient Persians and Byzantines. One of those ideologies for the goyim.

    Muslims have been used by Zionists for centuries to attain their aims.
    Besides, Islam itself was started by the ancestors of the Zionists to use Arabs as a tool to destroy the Persian and Byzantine Empires. This is the Persian Empire which saved the Jews from Babylon during the reign of Cyrus the Great, the same Persian Empire whose government the Zionists themselves controlled, the same Persian Empire where the Zionists of that time killed the Persian nationalist Haman and his sons. The Byzantines had barred Jews from any position of power or from banking however they were permitted to stay as normal subjects. The Byzantines had to go.

    http://thechristiansolution.com/tcs_book/SupportDocs_TCS/TCS158.htm

    http://www.thechristiansolution.com/Exilarch.html

    https://exposingthelieofislam.wordpress.com/the-truth-about-the-origins-and-spread-of-islam-how-the-jews-developed-the-program-of-islam-to-invade-and-destroy-the-east/

    Of course Islam, like Christianity, went out of their control and Islam became an Arab project and then a Muslim project including non Arab Muslims (Ajams) under the Abbasid Caliphate period

    • Replies:@Alden
    @Malla

    Very interesting history. A lot of people claim Islam was a Jewish invention. There were a lot of Jews in that area in 600AD

  • @Druid
    @anonymous

    Well said and totally agree. Reading these morons has been entertaining. They hate Islam and Christianity, the two conquering Faith's of India that ever succumbed and became just another face of Hinduism, as previous conquerors had done. India is a dump and they can have it

    Replies: @Malla

    Though I criticize the negative sides of Hinduism, we Hindus do have a point. We see Christianity & Islam decimate nearly all pagan religions around the world. There is significant Paganism only in India, China & Japan (Shinto). So in one way Hindu resistance to the abrahamic faith is the continuation of the pagan resistance to of old. Who else but a Druid would understand it.

  • It goes without saying, the odiously ignoble troupe of societal misfits turned Marxist activists, commonly referred to as Social Justice Warriors (SJW), care naught about redressing the balance of an unfair world.

    I think it bears endless repetition. Exhibit A would be how the leftist-dominated American political establishment constantly inveighs against the White Nationalist mouse, then sits down to dinner at Che Whitey with Jewish Supremacists (Zionists) or their water-carriers and sympathizers. Hell, what am I saying? Every member of the American political establishmentis, at the least, a Zionist sympathizer.

  • Activists operating during the Edwardian and Victorian periods also campaigned to see slavery abolished globally. After relentless parliamentary lobbying from both Christian and secular abolitionists, and within a year of Westminster passing the Abolition of the Slave Trade Act in 1807, Britain’s Royal Navy took to the high seas separating the New and Old Worlds to eradicate the Transatlantic Slave trade, establishing the West Africa Squadron.

    It’s worth noting that Britain’s abolitionist movement got started only a few years after American independence. I.e., just after American slavery ceased to be a source of revenue for Britain. This is not to deny Britain credit for ending slavery, mind you.

  • Holy Aryan invasion, Batman.

    Hey jack Sen , you forgot to include the letter that the British used to show to the Africans captured from the homes before shipping them to Liver-poll and then to East Coast of USA. That letter was the original Magna Carta with Jesus on the top , Bible on the bottom.

    Too bad they didn’t show them a picture of the Black Africans doing the capturing, enslaving, and selling. Of course, the alternative, when demand for slaves was outmatched by supply, was Black Africans executing their war captives en masse. Contrary to popular belief (mostly posturing from leftists (yes, that includes “right wing” leftists)), slavery is not a fate worse than death, a fact evidenced by how seldom slaves took their own lives, despite having every opportunity to do so.

  • @anonymous
    A tedious essay of deceit about the "goodness" of christian missionaries. Laughable. These purveyors of hearsay and delusions were driven mainly by white supremacy, and the purely racist notion of "the white man's burden."

    And, many hindutva terrorist ass-lickers here providing their own version of alternative facts. You see, they love the orange scumbag, due to his unabashed Islamophobia, and also because he is as much a degenerate as they all are. Proof of this can be found in their "man-idols," the mass murderers they elected to the highest offices of the land. A pox on all of them.


    Islamophobes, remember the following;

    Islam means complete submission to God, and only God; the One, Infinite and Unique. Monotheism in the true sense of the word.

    As much as you all like to portray Islam as some medieval faith for barbarians only, the core idea of True Monotheism is the most logical comprehension of our Creator, and has transcended the test of time. That is, it has proven to be irrefutable...if you are a theist.

    In this, Islam stands alone on rock-solid ground. It is your polytheist faiths, sinking in quicksand, rooted in human\animal worship, which have basis in dawn-age beliefs.


    Heck, the hindus don't even have physical proof of their deities' existence, given themyths that they walked this Earth and frolicked much; except for pathetically dubious "proofs," such as this one, the "image" of Shiva formed by snow-on-rock, on the side of some cliff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBo8vfl4vU

    Similar dubious proofs of the existence of Krishna and Ram have been cooked up too, and swallowed hook, line and sinker, by thedesperate faithful.

    Replies: @Druid, @Druid, @Malla, @Malla

    Well said and totally agree. Reading these morons has been entertaining. They hate Islam and Christianity, the two conquering Faith’s of India that never succumbed and became just another face of Hinduism, as previous conquerors had done. India is a dump and they can have it

  • @anonymous
    A tedious essay of deceit about the "goodness" of christian missionaries. Laughable. These purveyors of hearsay and delusions were driven mainly by white supremacy, and the purely racist notion of "the white man's burden."

    And, many hindutva terrorist ass-lickers here providing their own version of alternative facts. You see, they love the orange scumbag, due to his unabashed Islamophobia, and also because he is as much a degenerate as they all are. Proof of this can be found in their "man-idols," the mass murderers they elected to the highest offices of the land. A pox on all of them.


    Islamophobes, remember the following;

    Islam means complete submission to God, and only God; the One, Infinite and Unique. Monotheism in the true sense of the word.

    As much as you all like to portray Islam as some medieval faith for barbarians only, the core idea of True Monotheism is the most logical comprehension of our Creator, and has transcended the test of time. That is, it has proven to be irrefutable...if you are a theist.

    In this, Islam stands alone on rock-solid ground. It is your polytheist faiths, sinking in quicksand, rooted in human\animal worship, which have basis in dawn-age beliefs.


    Heck, the hindus don't even have physical proof of their deities' existence, given themyths that they walked this Earth and frolicked much; except for pathetically dubious "proofs," such as this one, the "image" of Shiva formed by snow-on-rock, on the side of some cliff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBo8vfl4vU

    Similar dubious proofs of the existence of Krishna and Ram have been cooked up too, and swallowed hook, line and sinker, by thedesperate faithful.

    Replies: @Druid, @Druid, @Malla, @Malla

    Well said and totally agree. Reading these morons has been entertaining. They hate Islam and Christianity, the two conquering Faith’s of India that ever succumbed and became just another face of Hinduism, as previous conquerors had done. India is a dump and they can have it

    • Replies:@Malla
    @Druid

    Though I criticize the negative sides of Hinduism, we Hindus do have a point. We see Christianity & Islam decimate nearly all pagan religions around the world. There is significant Paganism only in India, China & Japan (Shinto). So in one way Hindu resistance to the abrahamic faith is the continuation of the pagan resistance to of old. Who else but a Druid would understand it.

  • @Alden
    @Singh

    Death before dishonor can be achieved in less bizarro sadistic ways For instance a large group of Greek women tied themselves and their children together and went over a cliff to escape slavery by the Turks. A countess Dracula jumped off the castle wall and killed her self when it looked like the Turks conquered the castke

    There is a famous statue of a Gual warrior defeated by the Romans. His wife is already dead and he is halfway through slitting his own throat

    And those sadistic horrible Satis were always a 3 day public spectacle and festivity arranged by the priests, not a Muslim rapist within hundreds of miles.

    Rape and prostitution? Clean up your own house first. It’s the Hindu parts of India where rape is rampant. There are plenty of Temples in India today where the child priestesses are prostitures.

    The British putting the widows into brothels? Few widows were young, what good is a middle aged women in a brothel? And the Indians not the British ran the brothels.

    The reason for Sati was financial ; kill the widow and inherit everything
    For the poor, one less mouth to feed.

    For the priests who arranged the Satis they were well paid, as clergy are paid for their services in every religion.

    For the vendors who went to the festivals, lots of money like all the vendors who follow carnivals, county fairs rodeos and other fairs and festivals world wide.

    Going from father’s harem to husband’s harem is bliss compared to Sati. Muslim oppression of women? Nothing compared to oppression by burning women alive and allegedly not drugged.

    FYI when the Europeans burnt people convicted of various crimes to death they weren’t really burnt. When they were tied to the stake they were strangled

    This really isn’t the place to advocate a return to extreme Hinduism and Sati. That movement belongs more in Hindu India where you can convert the back sliders.

    Are you sincere about this or do you own some companies that sell food and trinkets at festivals? Doesn’t India have enough festivals to keep your profits coming in?

    Different views and opinions, that’s what Unz is for.

    Replies: @Druid, @Malla

    Well said.

  • @Malla
    Todays SJWs are misfits and idiots who are the result of decades of Marxist propaganda via the education system and the media. They are financed and directed by the globalist elites to destroy Western civilization and the White race. This is important before the globalists can set up their one world government slave society on Earth. These same globalist elites financed nearly all the anti-colonial movements, the destruction of South Africa and Rhodesia, spreading of Communism and now finally the West.

    Replies: @Iberiano, @Backwoods Bob, @Druid, @V, @V

    So you think apartheid should’ve continued in South Africa, huh! That says it all about you. It’s true that the country ran better under the whites, but it fully worked only for the whites, who were 10 percent of the population

  • @Singh
    as they did the vile Hindu practice of Sati in India.

    Yes because 1 in 50,000 widows became millions annually & by all accounts the British were interested in selling the widows into prostitution.

    http://indiafacts.org/missionaries-sati-colonial-india/
    http://indiafacts.org/sati-atrocity-narrative-civilizing-mission/
    http://indiafacts.org/sati-historical-evidence/

    Genociding pagans & helping muslim. White people are fine but it's too bad so many are christian like this duffer.

    We need an abrahamic genocide Liberalism is also abrahamic।।

    http://mosmaiorum.org/persecution_list.html

    We must appropriate whatever good belongs to the Pagan it was said in On Christian Doctrine Book II

    So now your 'social gospel' leads to your daughters being appropriated.

    You tried to steal our Aryan heritage now your continent is invaded by those with skin burnt darker than any Dravidian।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    Replies: @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Alden, @Moi

    I guess you’d be happy with a Hindu fascist like India’s Modi or our own Sikh-in-Christian clothing Namrata Randhawa (aka Nikki Haley).

  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A tedious essay of deceit about the “goodness” of christian missionaries. Laughable. These purveyors of hearsay and delusions were driven mainly by white supremacy, and the purely racist notion of “the white man’s burden.”

    And, many hindutva terrorist ass-lickers here providing their own version of alternative facts. You see, they love the orange scumbag, due to his unabashed Islamophobia, and also because he is as much a degenerate as they all are. Proof of this can be found in their “man-idols,” the mass murderers they elected to the highest offices of the land. A pox on all of them.

    Islamophobes, remember the following;

    Islam means complete submission to God, and only God; the One, Infinite and Unique. Monotheism in the true sense of the word.

    As much as you all like to portray Islam as some medieval faith for barbarians only, the core idea of True Monotheism is the most logical comprehension of our Creator, and has transcended the test of time. That is, it has proven to be irrefutable…if you are a theist.

    In this, Islam stands alone on rock-solid ground. It is your polytheist faiths, sinking in quicksand, rooted in human\animal worship, which have basis in dawn-age beliefs.

    Heck, the hindus don’t even have physical proof of their deities’ existence, given themyths that they walked this Earth and frolicked much; except for pathetically dubious “proofs,” such as this one, the “image” of Shiva formed by snow-on-rock, on the side of some cliff.

    Video Link

    Similar dubious proofs of the existence of Krishna and Ram have been cooked up too, and swallowed hook, line and sinker, by thedesperate faithful.

    • Replies:@Druid
    @anonymous

    Well said and totally agree. Reading these morons has been entertaining. They hate Islam and Christianity, the two conquering Faith's of India that ever succumbed and became just another face of Hinduism, as previous conquerors had done. India is a dump and they can have it

    Replies: @Malla

    ,@Druid
    @anonymous

    Well said and totally agree. Reading these morons has been entertaining. They hate Islam and Christianity, the two conquering Faith's of India that never succumbed and became just another face of Hinduism, as previous conquerors had done. India is a dump and they can have it

    ,@Malla
    @anonymous

    And Islam is one of those fake ideologies by Jewie to rile up the Arabs as Cannon fodder to destroy the ancient Persians and Byzantines. One of those ideologies for the goyim.

    Muslims have been used by Zionists for centuries to attain their aims.
    Besides, Islam itself was started by the ancestors of the Zionists to use Arabs as a tool to destroy the Persian and Byzantine Empires. This is the Persian Empire which saved the Jews from Babylon during the reign of Cyrus the Great, the same Persian Empire whose government the Zionists themselves controlled, the same Persian Empire where the Zionists of that time killed the Persian nationalist Haman and his sons. The Byzantines had barred Jews from any position of power or from banking however they were permitted to stay as normal subjects. The Byzantines had to go.

    http://thechristiansolution.com/tcs_book/SupportDocs_TCS/TCS158.htm

    http://www.thechristiansolution.com/Exilarch.html

    https://exposingthelieofislam.wordpress.com/the-truth-about-the-origins-and-spread-of-islam-how-the-jews-developed-the-program-of-islam-to-invade-and-destroy-the-east/

    Of course Islam, like Christianity, went out of their control and Islam became an Arab project and then a Muslim project including non Arab Muslims (Ajams) under the Abbasid Caliphate period

    Replies: @Alden

    ,@Malla
    @anonymous

    Krishna & Ram might be myths. Who is to say Mohammed was not? Did Prophet Mohammed even exist?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dlXCrpKTt0

  • @jilles dykstra
    " Anglican missionaries, who were granted land by local tribal councils and colonial decree, used the properties allotted to them, not to exploit resources to ship back to Britain, but to build clinics and schools where local tribal children were educated. The native population, who accepted the Christian ideals of the British missionaries and subsequently sent their children to the schools, tended to become educated as preachers and teachers "

    For an Aboriginal view of these benevolent missionaries read
    Labumore: Elsie Roughsey, ‘An Aboriginal Mother Tells of the Old and the New´, Fitzroy, Victoria, 1984
    It somewhat differs from the quote above.

    Replies: @Alden

    Why do you never post about the horrible atrocities committed by you evil White European Dutch in your 400 year old occupation and exploitation of Indonesia? And what about your theft of Manhattan and New York State from the peaceful Indians living in harmony with nature?

  • @anon
    @Reverend Spooner

    That's a bunch of liberal christian bs. Your monotheism is rooted in deny individual relations. You take one piece of the universe to declare as unrepentant truth & the rest as hellish lies.

    https://henadology.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/wp32-butler-pp3538-version-2.pdf

    Hellenic Panta-en-Pasin or Vedic Indra's Net demonstrate that each Jewel of the Univere is connected, it reflects into the other||

    However, those nearer to each other whether by blood relation or devotion, reflect strongly among themselves. The reflection is still there even in the farthest corner though.

    In contrast, your rooting for every section of humanity is for them to fall away from their ancestral tradition & adopt your desert thievery.

    You wish for the destruction of humanity, and call it well wishing.

    Pagans by the very nature of their Poly-Centric existence, acknowledge the connection of all life & humanity, you call it caste (a Portugeuse Christian word, denoting a system of blood purity) and discrminination||

    http://indiafacts.org/why-is-the-world-so-obsessed-with-indias-caste-system/

    To Christians, past sins are a matter for repentance vis-a-vis God, but ultimately only the normal course of things, since we’re all sinners. So they are not uptight about having sins on their record and won’t be blackmailed about this.

    http://indiafacts.org/caste-system-colonial-idea/

    End of day fact is that the multicultural or diverse society/world you claim to support is impossible with a monotheist belief structure||

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WKZJUhHlD209oOqcT1faRv4rvzQyzTpQ/view?usp=sharing

    The end goal of these exclusivist faiths is a kingdom of Christ, a Dar al-Islam or a global government of human rights. Everything is done in the name of truth, and every action is one step closer to the goal. When temples are buried under churches, sacred groves cut (http://mosmaiorum.org/persecution_list.html) or rituals absorbed, “So that all these rites and cults that they practiced for the sake of the idols, they now came to practice in the honor of god” (Assman, 6), it is all in the name of progression along a finite linear time scale. Everyone must join this one group, and reject others for the sake of development and refinement. As Talom Rukbo and Andrew McGowan point out this oppositional, and societal fracturing attitude is a core part of the exclusivist ideology and its linear notion of time (Sanu, 2005) (McGowan, 2010).

    A linear notion of time develops in opposition to a falsehood, whose defeat becomes the core pretext for the existence of the ideology. It is only exclusivist ideologies who posit this notion of time because they are the only ones concerned with defeating other ideologies in a “conversion war”. Quintus Aurelius Symmachus of Rome said: “Everyone has his own customs, his own religious practices; the divine mind has assigned to different cities different religions to be their guardians”. Makau Mutua of Africa is careful to distinguish between human traditions and what he calls proselytizing Universalist faiths (Sanu, 2005). In the Rig Veda Book 1 Hymn Line 46 It is Stated “that which is One, sages give many a title” (Vyas, N.D.). We are well aware of the Dharmic concept of cyclical or infinite time, and also of adopting the Deities of others, a process Assman calls ‘translation’ (Assman, 1-4).

    A view of time as infinite or cyclical goes hand in hand with religious tolerance and multiculturalism. At the same time, believing time to be finite and linear is associated with trying to outdo and destroy others on a religious/cultural level. This linear notion of time leads to a marked separation between Us and Other. Assman calls this process Normative Inversion by which that which is false is made true, and that which is true is made false (Assman, 6). As Augustine mentioned, from a worldview in which anything but Jesus is false, anything which can be claimed from the “heathens” should be as they are in unlawful possession of it.

    A good example of the contrast between exclusive and inclusive ideology and their respective notions of time is found in Mithra-Jayanti. A festival to mark the winter solstice, dedicated to the Vedic Deva Mithra or Mithras, it was widely celebrated throughout the Roman Empire. Mithra is infinite in age as far as humans are concerned so it is unknown when this festival started nor when it will end.

    In contrast, when this date was appropriated by Christianity to celebrate the birth of Jesus it gained a beginning (birth) and an end (apocalypse) (Bharavi, 2015) (Ravi, 2016). Furthermore, its very existence is celebration of the genocide of the “false heathen”. A victory for the march towards salvation of all creation in Jesus Christ.

    That a number of different traditions could co-exist and celebrate festivals together in ancient Europe, while also having a non-linear view of time shows the relationship between infinite time and religious tolerance (McFarlane, 2004). The arrival of an exclusivist ideology with a linear notion of time destroyed this fabric. In other words, the people who previously believed time to be infinite, were converted to the view of it as linear. This was done as part of their larger conversion to a religiously intolerant exclusivism.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SRJepvG5d9XZe7P-0wexqC9aPSjcTUfGztmB4ULddtk/edit?usp=sharing

    Monotheism is disproven by the fact that atoms transfer between all, all exist within one another at some level. Your entire notion of believer unbeliever is scientifically invalid. Egyptian Roman & Hindu Civilization used the same word Netji Dios/Deus or Deva to describe both their own pantheon & that of others. You can rant about Muh Racism & Liberty all you want, fact is you are the professor of a heresy which calls the Gods of others false|| There is nothing more to say unrepentant criminals like you who insult the Dios of everyone else can only be met & destroyed in battle.

    Your future African Arab army will not stand against Aryas.

    Reality is racist & "GOD" created it https://www.unz.com/jman/the-five-laws-of-behavioral-genetics/ digest that|| Youll just mutter that we must change or impprove it, you only understand violence.

    Ksytrias dole it out like Langar||

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।
    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ।।

    Replies: @Alden

    Caste is the Portuguese word for color. When they arrived in in India the Hindus went on at length to explain the system.

    The Portuguese noticed that the Lower groups were dark and the higher groups lighter. So they called it what it is, classification according to color

  • The only consolation I, as a White male of European descent, have as I watch other White European-descent SJW’s aid in the slow genocide of our people, is that these delicate creatures will be tossed off rooftops and/or gang-raped to death by the beautiful diverse crowd they are hoping to replace us with.

  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Conversely, communities that choose to adopt Marxist or left-wing values regress back to the African norm, as can be seen in places like Johannesburg, Detroit, Baltimore and South London.

    Both Mandela and Mugabe received their educations through the efforts of white missionaries. Then they turned around and bit the hand that fed them. Well intentioned missionaries have created unforeseen problems as a result of their efforts. Their efforts may have been better expended at home than elsewhere.

  • @Singh
    @Malla

    Hello ricebag,

    Sikh general Hari Singh Nalua stopped Afghan invasions. Same with Somnath,

    Glorify Sati as in end goal is to destroy Sati Mandir।।

    Yes Indian state is christian that's why it offers scholarship to religious minority।।

    We're going to restore Sati & BharatVarsha Monarchy, there's nothing you can do about it, this is Hukam of Guru Gobind Singh।।

    Anything against your white christian savior narrative is Hinduvta propaganda even from a Sikh separatist lol।।

    British benevolence towards muslims is well known culminating in their disproportionate entry into army & police post ww1 and creation of Pakistan।।

    Christian also did support Pakistan & were immediately genocided after its creation lol.
    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/british-support-for-pakistan-partition-of-india.74768/

    Even the Vedas criticize Sati & the selling of widows in Bengal is well known. It's to be noted that Sati went down in areas freed of Muslim control that's why it was strong in Bengal.

    Anyway, it's our practice our custom our country।।Uncouth British wanted to defile our sacred land with their presence, now their own Pakistani creation is destroying them genetically।।


    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    Replies: @Mitchell Porter, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Alden

    What’s a rice bag? What do you have against rice? Is it something like the rice vs noodle cooking of China carried to insane extremes?

    • Replies:@Malla
    @Alden


    What’s a rice bag? What do you have against rice?
     
    Sen is a Bengali surname. The diet of Bengalis (East Indians/Bangladeshis) and South Indians predominantly consists of rice while that of Western and Northern Indians as well as Pakistanis is predominantly wheat in the form of unleavened bread like roti/chapati.
    Singh is North Indian. Ricebag is a common derogatory term for Eastern and Southern Indians.

    Replies: @Alden

  • @Malla
    @Singh

    And what about this?

    Following the outcry after the sati of Roop Kanwar, the Indian Government enacted the Rajasthan Sati Prevention Ordinance, 1987 on 1 October 1987 and later passed the Commission of Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987.

    The Commission of Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987 Part I, Section 2(c) defines sati as:

    The burning or burying alive of –

    (i) any widow along with the body of her deceased husband or any other relative or with any article, object or thing associated with the husband or such relative; or
    (ii) any woman along with the body of any of her relatives, irrespective of whether such burning or burying is claimed to be voluntary on the part of the widow or the women or otherwise.

    The Prevention of Sati Act makes it illegal to support, glorify or attempt to commit sati. Support of sati, including coercing or forcing someone to commit sati, can be punished by death sentence or life imprisonment, while glorifying sati is punishable with one to seven years in prison.

    Check out the THE COMMISSION OF SATI (PREVENTION) ACT, 1987
    http://www.wcd.nic.in/act/commission-sati-prevention-act-and-rules
    MINISTRY OF WOMEN & CHILD DEVELOPMENT | GOVERNMENT OF INDIA
    https://web.archive.org/web/20091025224737/http://nrcw.nic.in/shared/sublinkimages/13.htm

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12346744

    This document contains major provisions of India's 1987 Rajasthan Sati (Prevention) Act. The Act seeks to prevent the voluntary or forced burning or burying alive of widows, an action known as "sati," and to prohibit glorification of this action through the observance of any ceremony, the participation in any procession, the creation of a financial trust, the construction of a temple, or any actions to commemorate or honor the memory of a widow who committed sati. Attempts to commit sati may be punished by imprisonment for 1-5 years and a fine. Directly or indirectly abetting the commission of sati is punishable by death or life imprisonment and a fine. Abetting attempts to commit sati may result in a fine and life imprisonment. Abetment is defined as inducing a widow to commit sati, making a widow believe that performance of sati will result in a spiritual benefit for her or her deceased husband or her family, obstructing police officers attempting to prevent sati, preventing a widow from saving herself, or being present at any place where sati is committed as an active participation to such commission or to any attendant ceremony. Glorification of sati can be punished by imprisonment for 1-7 years and a fine. The Act empowers Collectors and District Magistrates to take specific actions, which include removing temples or other structures constructed to glorify sati and appropriating funds collected to glorify sati. The Act further creates special courts to try offenses and places the burden of proof of innocence upon the accused.


    Read the above act properly. This was passed by the Government of Independent India in 1987. Iz da government of India a evul missionary? Why did the Indian government have to pass such an act if the whole Sati thing is a myth? The Indian Government has a lot of things on it's hands to waste time by creating unwanted legislation.

    Replies: @Singh, @forgottenpseudonym, @Alden, @Alden

    Sati was always about money. That’s why the Indian government criminalized any and all profiteering and attempts to profit from Sati

    • Replies:@Malla
    @Alden


    Sati was always about money.
     
    That is true as far as the greedy priest (and some family members) were concerned .

    However an explanation of Sati can be found in the pages of the writings of the German philosopher Schopenhauer. It seems queens/wives would poison their much older husband to get their property and thus marry younger men. That might be one reason Sati and the ban on widow remarriage might have entered as social mores. I mean, by poisoning your husband, you are gonne die too or live a miserable life, it beats the whole purpose.

    However Jauhar is different. Islamic barbarian hordes would rape and capture khaffir women of defeated 'non believer' kingdoms to be sold into slavery. Such a scale of rape and slavery was unprecedented in Indian history before the coming of the Islamic hordes. And hence the culture of women jumping into fire to save their honour.

    Replies: @Alden

  • @Malla
    @Singh

    And what about this?

    Following the outcry after the sati of Roop Kanwar, the Indian Government enacted the Rajasthan Sati Prevention Ordinance, 1987 on 1 October 1987 and later passed the Commission of Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987.

    The Commission of Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987 Part I, Section 2(c) defines sati as:

    The burning or burying alive of –

    (i) any widow along with the body of her deceased husband or any other relative or with any article, object or thing associated with the husband or such relative; or
    (ii) any woman along with the body of any of her relatives, irrespective of whether such burning or burying is claimed to be voluntary on the part of the widow or the women or otherwise.

    The Prevention of Sati Act makes it illegal to support, glorify or attempt to commit sati. Support of sati, including coercing or forcing someone to commit sati, can be punished by death sentence or life imprisonment, while glorifying sati is punishable with one to seven years in prison.

    Check out the THE COMMISSION OF SATI (PREVENTION) ACT, 1987
    http://www.wcd.nic.in/act/commission-sati-prevention-act-and-rules
    MINISTRY OF WOMEN & CHILD DEVELOPMENT | GOVERNMENT OF INDIA
    https://web.archive.org/web/20091025224737/http://nrcw.nic.in/shared/sublinkimages/13.htm

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12346744

    This document contains major provisions of India's 1987 Rajasthan Sati (Prevention) Act. The Act seeks to prevent the voluntary or forced burning or burying alive of widows, an action known as "sati," and to prohibit glorification of this action through the observance of any ceremony, the participation in any procession, the creation of a financial trust, the construction of a temple, or any actions to commemorate or honor the memory of a widow who committed sati. Attempts to commit sati may be punished by imprisonment for 1-5 years and a fine. Directly or indirectly abetting the commission of sati is punishable by death or life imprisonment and a fine. Abetting attempts to commit sati may result in a fine and life imprisonment. Abetment is defined as inducing a widow to commit sati, making a widow believe that performance of sati will result in a spiritual benefit for her or her deceased husband or her family, obstructing police officers attempting to prevent sati, preventing a widow from saving herself, or being present at any place where sati is committed as an active participation to such commission or to any attendant ceremony. Glorification of sati can be punished by imprisonment for 1-7 years and a fine. The Act empowers Collectors and District Magistrates to take specific actions, which include removing temples or other structures constructed to glorify sati and appropriating funds collected to glorify sati. The Act further creates special courts to try offenses and places the burden of proof of innocence upon the accused.


    Read the above act properly. This was passed by the Government of Independent India in 1987. Iz da government of India a evul missionary? Why did the Indian government have to pass such an act if the whole Sati thing is a myth? The Indian Government has a lot of things on it's hands to waste time by creating unwanted legislation.

    Replies: @Singh, @forgottenpseudonym, @Alden, @Alden

    I remember thexSati of Roop Kanwar. The motivation was not religious. The priests and the family wanted to set up a shrine and develop a lucrative tourist/ pilgrimage trade.

    All governments have problems. But India has the additional problem of stamping out the revival of Sati.

    • Replies:@Malla
    @Alden


    The priests and the family wanted to set up a shrine and develop a lucrative tourist/ pilgrimage trade.
     
    In India, many temples are richer than many corporations. V.S. Naipaul, the Nobel laureate of Indian descent but born in the Caribbean wrote in his first book on India, the land of his ancestors, 'India is a land of corrupt priests, rich temples and poor devotees'

    Replies: @anon

  • @Singh
    as they did the vile Hindu practice of Sati in India.

    Yes because 1 in 50,000 widows became millions annually & by all accounts the British were interested in selling the widows into prostitution.

    http://indiafacts.org/missionaries-sati-colonial-india/
    http://indiafacts.org/sati-atrocity-narrative-civilizing-mission/
    http://indiafacts.org/sati-historical-evidence/

    Genociding pagans & helping muslim. White people are fine but it's too bad so many are christian like this duffer.

    We need an abrahamic genocide Liberalism is also abrahamic।।

    http://mosmaiorum.org/persecution_list.html

    We must appropriate whatever good belongs to the Pagan it was said in On Christian Doctrine Book II

    So now your 'social gospel' leads to your daughters being appropriated.

    You tried to steal our Aryan heritage now your continent is invaded by those with skin burnt darker than any Dravidian।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    Replies: @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Alden, @Moi

    Something I just thought of. If there were young children, what happened to them with both parents dead?

    Were pregnant women spared until the baby was born? What about nursing mothers? Did the avaricious relatives bother to find a wet nurse before murdering the Mother? Wet nurses cost money, what about families who didn’t have or didn’t want to spend the. money for a wet nurse? Since Sati was about inheritance, maybe they just killed the baby one less person to share the money. For the poor one less mouth to feed and child to raise.

    Did the avaricious relatives and priests swarm in, steal everything and sell the girls into prostitution an d turn the boys out into the streets? What if teenage kids were old enough to defend themselves their homes and inheritance?

    What about the mental health of women who grew up knowing that they would be burnt to death?

  • Watched Cassie Jaye’s Red Pill on Amazon Prime last night.

    Highly recommended.

  • @Singh
    @Singh

    Hindus & Sikhs worship Sati Ma who is a form of the wife of Lord Shiva।।Dishonorable desert cultures where the idea of death before dishonor does not exist can never understand this।।It is always better to burn yourself alive with your children than to have your dead bodies raped & survivors sold into slavery by christian & muslim।।

    It is fine though the revenge of the Aryan burns like the sun & is cold like Himalayan ice।।

    Replies: @Malla, @Alden

    Death before dishonor can be achieved in less bizarro sadistic ways For instance a large group of Greek women tied themselves and their children together and went over a cliff to escape slavery by the Turks. A countess Dracula jumped off the castle wall and killed her self when it looked like the Turks conquered the castke

    There is a famous statue of a Gual warrior defeated by the Romans. His wife is already dead and he is halfway through slitting his own throat

    And those sadistic horrible Satis were always a 3 day public spectacle and festivity arranged by the priests, not a Muslim rapist within hundreds of miles.

    Rape and prostitution? Clean up your own house first. It’s the Hindu parts of India where rape is rampant. There are plenty of Temples in India today where the child priestesses are prostitures.

    The British putting the widows into brothels? Few widows were young, what good is a middle aged women in a brothel? And the Indians not the British ran the brothels.

    The reason for Sati was financial ; kill the widow and inherit everything
    For the poor, one less mouth to feed.

    For the priests who arranged the Satis they were well paid, as clergy are paid for their services in every religion.

    For the vendors who went to the festivals, lots of money like all the vendors who follow carnivals, county fairs rodeos and other fairs and festivals world wide.

    Going from father’s harem to husband’s harem is bliss compared to Sati. Muslim oppression of women? Nothing compared to oppression by burning women alive and allegedly not drugged.

    FYI when the Europeans burnt people convicted of various crimes to death they weren’t really burnt. When they were tied to the stake they were strangled

    This really isn’t the place to advocate a return to extreme Hinduism and Sati. That movement belongs more in Hindu India where you can convert the back sliders.

    Are you sincere about this or do you own some companies that sell food and trinkets at festivals? Doesn’t India have enough festivals to keep your profits coming in?

    Different views and opinions, that’s what Unz is for.

    • Replies:@Druid
    @Alden

    Well said.

    ,@Malla
    @Alden


    Death before dishonor can be achieved in less bizarro sadistic ways For instance a large group of Greek women tied themselves and their children together and went over a cliff to escape slavery by the Turks. A countess Dracula jumped off the castle wall and killed her self when it looked like the Turks conquered the castke
     
    Sati is different from Jauhar. Sati was during peacetimes and thus not needed. Jauhar was during times of Islamic hordes outside your gate salivating for rape and capture. Thus to save honour, Hindu/Jain/Sikh women would jump into a giant fire. Since the bodies of Hindus after death was burnt anyways, so it just made sense to jump into a fire pit itself. Women of Hindu/Sikh royal households were especially prized for rape (reserved for the Muslim invading Sultan) or to be added into harems of Muslim kings or would fetch large sums of money when sold (only affordable for Sultans and Muslim kings or very rich merchants).Jumping into a funeral pit seemed like a better option.

    What is strange is that Jauhar was most common amongst the Rajputs whose male side of the ancestry hailed from Central Asia (Scythains, Kushanas, Khambojas, White Huns etc...) and the conquering hordes were often Mughals/Turks who too hailed from Central Asia. But of course, by then the demographics of Central Asia had changed quite a lot thanks to the Mongol Empire and the spreading of Islam. 'Mughal' is the Persian word for Mongol though the Mughals were a mix of Mongols, Uzbeks, Uighurs and Turks.
  • Wow,
    What an article! Please, write more articles of this quality!

  • This is hilarious. Loved the bit about the Hispanic minority flooding into Western Europe. Spain seems to be the worst affected, with the historic, indigenous English population now completely replaced! Jack Sen is actually Jack Sengupta, born in the UK to a father of “east Indian” origin and an English mother. Given the amount of attention he pays to South Africa, his father may well have come from that country. He was a candidate for UKIP in the 2015 general election but was excluded from the party for anti-Semitic utterances and now runs an utterly unknown far right group called the European Knights Project. He also writes under a whole series of pseudonyms. His use of essentially American far right jargon suggests he is far more connected to the US far right than the British far right. I can’t help making the connection with the other far right British figure with a strangely un-British name, Jayda Fransen.

  • @Malla
    @Singh

    And what about this?

    Following the outcry after the sati of Roop Kanwar, the Indian Government enacted the Rajasthan Sati Prevention Ordinance, 1987 on 1 October 1987 and later passed the Commission of Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987.

    The Commission of Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987 Part I, Section 2(c) defines sati as:

    The burning or burying alive of –

    (i) any widow along with the body of her deceased husband or any other relative or with any article, object or thing associated with the husband or such relative; or
    (ii) any woman along with the body of any of her relatives, irrespective of whether such burning or burying is claimed to be voluntary on the part of the widow or the women or otherwise.

    The Prevention of Sati Act makes it illegal to support, glorify or attempt to commit sati. Support of sati, including coercing or forcing someone to commit sati, can be punished by death sentence or life imprisonment, while glorifying sati is punishable with one to seven years in prison.

    Check out the THE COMMISSION OF SATI (PREVENTION) ACT, 1987
    http://www.wcd.nic.in/act/commission-sati-prevention-act-and-rules
    MINISTRY OF WOMEN & CHILD DEVELOPMENT | GOVERNMENT OF INDIA
    https://web.archive.org/web/20091025224737/http://nrcw.nic.in/shared/sublinkimages/13.htm

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12346744

    This document contains major provisions of India's 1987 Rajasthan Sati (Prevention) Act. The Act seeks to prevent the voluntary or forced burning or burying alive of widows, an action known as "sati," and to prohibit glorification of this action through the observance of any ceremony, the participation in any procession, the creation of a financial trust, the construction of a temple, or any actions to commemorate or honor the memory of a widow who committed sati. Attempts to commit sati may be punished by imprisonment for 1-5 years and a fine. Directly or indirectly abetting the commission of sati is punishable by death or life imprisonment and a fine. Abetting attempts to commit sati may result in a fine and life imprisonment. Abetment is defined as inducing a widow to commit sati, making a widow believe that performance of sati will result in a spiritual benefit for her or her deceased husband or her family, obstructing police officers attempting to prevent sati, preventing a widow from saving herself, or being present at any place where sati is committed as an active participation to such commission or to any attendant ceremony. Glorification of sati can be punished by imprisonment for 1-7 years and a fine. The Act empowers Collectors and District Magistrates to take specific actions, which include removing temples or other structures constructed to glorify sati and appropriating funds collected to glorify sati. The Act further creates special courts to try offenses and places the burden of proof of innocence upon the accused.


    Read the above act properly. This was passed by the Government of Independent India in 1987. Iz da government of India a evul missionary? Why did the Indian government have to pass such an act if the whole Sati thing is a myth? The Indian Government has a lot of things on it's hands to waste time by creating unwanted legislation.

    Replies: @Singh, @forgottenpseudonym, @Alden, @Alden

    Thank you, Malla. It was often the very same campaigners against the west African slave trade who also campaigned against suttee/sati, their inspiration being the so called Clapham sect.

  • Of course, SJWs and other Cultural Marxists have no real concern for the truly poor or those made poorer and less powerful by Globalist multi-billionaires moving populations like serfs transferred among estates.Allof Leftism is about 1 thing: culture war to exterminate every last teeny vestige of Christendom.

    And because neither blacks not East Asians nor Semites built Christendom, the war to exterminate any trace of Christendom must always be focused on making white Gentiles as close to a serf class as possible.

    And the corollary to the above is that all those who lead the war to exterminate any trace of Christendom always act to bribe all non-whites, as a group, to become active soldiers in their cause.

    There is absolutely no way for us to win – and to lose means cultural extinction – short of altering our Modern mindset, repenting of our actions that converted Christendom into Modern Liberal democracies, and then focus on rebuilding what has been lost.

  • SJW’s are the Taliban of the West. I’ve been saying this for years and they keep proving me right.

    What’s the difference between a jihadi blowing up a historical monument or statue or an sjw having a statue or flag removed because it offends their worldview?

  • @anon
    @Malla

    [If fanatic Hindu foreigners want to rant on this website about their religious zealotry, they should ration their remarks more cautiously, and also take greater care in their spelling, punctuation, and grammar. Since they contribute absolutely nothing worthwhile to this website, unless they do so, their future remarks may not be published. Perhaps they'd be much happier on some other website oriented towards fanatic Hindus.]

    Doubt ur North Indian or ur from NCR||

    Religion implies exclusivity of belief,

    "15,028 names of Creator mentioned in Adi Granth Sahib|| Hari occurs over 8,000 times, Ram 2,533 times, followed by Prabhu, Gopal Govind, Parbrahm and other Hindu nomenclature for the Divine.The purely Sikh coinage 'Wahe Guru' appears only 16 time"

    Vaheguru = VasuDeva Hari Govinda Rama

    Fact is, as Harjit Singh Oberoi of Arya Samaj said: Sikhism is the purest tradition closest to Vedic Dharma||

    Hindus have many Sampradyas & Panths Sikhi + Greater Khalsa are among them||

    However on Socio-Political level there is differenece, TODAY.

    This is due to Hindu institutions being under strict Gov (Secular-Christian) control while Sikh exercise some level of autonomy||

    THis will change, DW.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ।।

    Replies: @HogHappenin

    Oh boy watching these fanatic Indian scum go at it is quite amusing. These apparently fire breathing, venom spitting types from India are an even worse lot than the southern baptist evangelicals with their one track mind and their almost biblical love for Israel (more than their love for Jesus) which is a of course based on a false reading of the bible courtesy such con men like John hagee.

    Good one editor. Such posts must be moderated as it adds absolutely nothing to the national discourse May be it would matter after a couple decades when the H1Bs would have taken over and become the new clerks of our zionist “leadership”!

    • Agree:Druid,Anon-og
  • @Malla
    Todays SJWs are misfits and idiots who are the result of decades of Marxist propaganda via the education system and the media. They are financed and directed by the globalist elites to destroy Western civilization and the White race. This is important before the globalists can set up their one world government slave society on Earth. These same globalist elites financed nearly all the anti-colonial movements, the destruction of South Africa and Rhodesia, spreading of Communism and now finally the West.

    Replies: @Iberiano, @Backwoods Bob, @Druid, @V, @V

    Exactly so, Malla.

    I don’t see any way out of this so long as we have government schools. Long ago, in the era of common schools, the locality both funded and controlled the delivery of education at the primary level especially.

    You can’t even have centralized control over education at the state level.

    Insofar as the author, I feel the same way Stefan Molyneaux does about Christianity. Despite being atheists, based upon science, we respect Christianity for the positive externalities upon society.

    However, Christianity has one glaring negative externality, and that is Zionism. And this is just far too huge to excuse. It is a curse of immense magnitude.

  • ” Anglican missionaries, who were granted land by local tribal councils and colonial decree, used the properties allotted to them, not to exploit resources to ship back to Britain, but to build clinics and schools where local tribal children were educated. The native population, who accepted the Christian ideals of the British missionaries and subsequently sent their children to the schools, tended to become educated as preachers and teachers ”

    For an Aboriginal view of these benevolent missionaries read
    Labumore: Elsie Roughsey, ‘An Aboriginal Mother Tells of the Old and the New´, Fitzroy, Victoria, 1984
    It somewhat differs from the quote above.

    • Replies:@Alden
    @jilles dykstra

    Why do you never post about the horrible atrocities committed by you evil White European Dutch in your 400 year old occupation and exploitation of Indonesia? And what about your theft of Manhattan and New York State from the peaceful Indians living in harmony with nature?

  • A few points:

    -regardless of the good or bad Christian missionaries did in the past, they are currently doing a lot of damage in Africa by contributing to the African Population Bomb which is an existential threat to Europe

    -Antifa are arguably more urban anarchist than Marxist, hence the focus on issues of individual expression rather than economic equality and class conflict

    -most SJWs aren’t social misfits, they’re just middle class college kids with too much time on their hands (note the heterosexual-looking middle class white girl in the centre of your LGBT cover pic)

  • @Da Wei
    Jack Sen,

    Thank you for this inciteful, cogent article, as well as the revealing illustrations. Your writing is ripe with substance and intelligent in delivery. The picture of the Detroit Mark Twain Library is simply bewildering, so congratulations on its rhetorical impact here.

    Here is my brief and somewhat mixed addendum:
    Bridging from 19th Century to 20th is Albert Schweitzer (Doctor of Medicine, of Music [pipe organ], of Philosophy, of Theology [Quest of the Historical Jesus]) and his medical clinic, Lambaranie, in Africa.

    Second, in the era preceding blistering war between Vietnam and the US was Tom Dooley and his free medical clinics in Laos and inspiring books about his humanistic journey.

    Third, the Colonial American slave trade involved a good many ships owned by Jews, indicating their involvement in profitable human trafficking back then, yet mention of this comes most vocally from Louis Farakhan, a technically good preacher, but not a Christian.

    Fourth I pose as an inquiry. Has serious investigation taken place linking the "Pedophile Island" in the West Indies -- including the well known tour guide and his jet liner and high profile tourists -- with the current condition of sex trafficking in Israel? I suspect not, if only because of Bibi's ability to silence investigation as "anti-semetic" and the cooperation of our lackey politicians jumping to their feet applauding him. Still, I have to ask the question. Maybe there's no connection, but is anybody asking?

    I mention these four points because your intelligent article stimulates the mind and spirit, not because it is incomplete in any way.

    If there were a Kipling Award for Fighting the Good Fight, I'd nominate you for it.

    Replies: @Randal, @Da Wei, @Wally

    said:
    “Third, the Colonial American slave trade involved a good many ships owned by Jews, indicating their involvement in profitable human trafficking …”

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin – The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA

    Video LinkStatue of Jew Confederate slave owner stands untouched in Florida
    https://revisionistreview.blogspot.it/2017/08/statue-of-judaic-confederate-slave.html
    fact:
    slavery of black Africans would have never happened without black Africans selling black African slaves
    “African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders’ ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry”
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    “African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.”

    • Replies:@Malla
    @Wally

    It seems the African chiefs made it clear that any African American can return and settle in West Africa. But as an African friend of mine explained what they really want is rich/ middle class African Americans to come to West Africa and spend or invest their dollars. I doubt they are interested in the Ghetto youths and besides, I do not know why any West African government would want hordes of those spoiled lazy ghetto youfs in their countries anyways.

  • @Iberiano
    @Malla

    The interesting thing is, out here in California, the only SJWs I really ever see or hear of/from are whites...most West Coast Latinos, and to a greater extent, Asians, have no interest or need to adopt any of the SJW positions.

    Replies: @Anon, @Malla, @denjae

    ” have no interest or need to adopt any of the SJW positions.”

    Duh! Of course not. Latino’s and Asians are amongst the beneficiaries of SWJ-ways.

    Why work at something that a bunch of idiotic SWJ’s are giving away for free?

  • anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla
    @Anon


    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/lineage-and-shastarvidiya
     
    Sikhism is seems it a bit different than Hinduism. It has many similarities with Hinduism and is close to Hinduism but is still a distinct religion.

    Replies: @anon

    [If fanatic Hindu foreigners want to rant on this website about their religious zealotry, they should ration their remarks more cautiously, and also take greater care in their spelling, punctuation, and grammar. Since they contribute absolutely nothing worthwhile to this website, unless they do so, their future remarks may not be published. Perhaps they’d be much happier on some other website oriented towards fanatic Hindus.]

    Doubt ur North Indian or ur from NCR||

    Religion implies exclusivity of belief,

    “15,028 names of Creator mentioned in Adi Granth Sahib|| Hari occurs over 8,000 times, Ram 2,533 times, followed by Prabhu, Gopal Govind, Parbrahm and other Hindu nomenclature for the Divine.The purely Sikh coinage ‘Wahe Guru’ appears only 16 time”

    Vaheguru = VasuDeva Hari Govinda Rama

    Fact is, as Harjit Singh Oberoi of Arya Samaj said: Sikhism is the purest tradition closest to Vedic Dharma||

    Hindus have many Sampradyas & Panths Sikhi + Greater Khalsa are among them||

    However on Socio-Political level there is differenece, TODAY.

    This is due to Hindu institutions being under strict Gov (Secular-Christian) control while Sikh exercise some level of autonomy||

    THis will change, DW.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ।।

    • Replies:@HogHappenin
    @anon

    Oh boy watching these fanatic Indian scum go at it is quite amusing. These apparently fire breathing, venom spitting types from India are an even worse lot than the southern baptist evangelicals with their one track mind and their almost biblical love for Israel (more than their love for Jesus) which is a of course based on a false reading of the bible courtesy such con men like John hagee.

    Good one editor. Such posts must be moderated as it adds absolutely nothing to the national discourse May be it would matter after a couple decades when the H1Bs would have taken over and become the new clerks of our zionist "leadership"!

  • @Anon
    Untouchability is not found historically in Hinduism. Rajputs had marital alliances with Bhils, Iklavya's family did as well.

    Sage Valmiki Was Reformed from being outcaste.

    Nyara Sutra as Mahabharat is knowledge of a butcher.

    The Pandavs went Sri Krishna Ji himself to welcome a Shudra family.

    Many of the Dalits are actually from upper caste individuals who were made outcaste by muslims.

    An example is the policy of forcing Ksytrias to carry the waste of muslims on their head. The punishment for this in Manusmriti is banishment of both who do this.

    Same Manusmriti says it is law to give land to one who tills it. Nothing in feudalism which came with islam

    Untouchability is recent phenomenon sometimes say after 15th C AD widespread. Likely came with Khiljis

    Why don't you read of their brutality? Like how tughlaq moved the capital many times and anyone not able to keep up was killed.

    It's a fact that the largest genocide in history is the Hindu genocide in the muslim invasions. The british policy of creating famine where rebellious tendencies existed & then sending in missionaries to split the society is well known.

    A curious paradox is many converts are from the upper castes. This is true in Islam in the famous Madras famine half the Dalits of the city starved not one converted.

    Certainly there were Brahmin collaborators but much of the vitriol against them is written by and for those ignorant of Hindu civilization.

    Example they talk of Brahmin wealth when a good Brahmin is one who begs. In compiling a list of oppressed castes in the Delhi Punjab area Guru Gobind Singh Ji famously included Brahmins there.

    It's a fact that majority of the students in Takshila & Nalanda university were Shudra. If you read Fa Hien, Chinese Traveler and Megasthenes, Selucid Diplomat, accounts of India you will change your tune.

    Both said the Indian common man is the most prosperous and care free in the world. What changed after was incessant incursion by Turks.

    Our Rishis recognized the inherent inequality of man, even Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji says Varna comes from Akal Purakh.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/06/the-genetic-limits-of-social-mobility/

    http://www.socialmatter.net/2016/12/16/a-brief-defense-of-the-hereditarian-caste-system/

    http://thefutureprimaeval.net/material-and-social-technologies/

    Even the Celts had Sati it's an old Indo European tradition and existed where women had more value actually. In places where women had greater status and honor than say Greece/Rome (non existent) vs German/Norse & Celtic.

    You should read the stories of young widows both during British & Mughal times. One Widow in front of Akbar burnt her own arm to a crisp to protest her not being allowed to Sati & he had to relent।।

    In front of the Brits a young 16 year Widow of Bengal burnt her own finger off with a candle, the officer got out of the way, and she became Sati.

    Sati Mata Ki Jai!

    If you understand the mosaic distinction or the idea that all philosophy before us or outside our tradition is false, then you would have no kind words for Christianity, Islam, Judaism or Liberalism.

    They prevent the vertical transfer of knowledge

    https://devayasna.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/religion-counter-religion-and-the-weirdness-of-modernity
    http://thefutureprimaeval.net/a-short-argument-for-traditions/

    It is a Brahmin job to preserve tradition although there have been many reformers it is more so the Ksytria job to guide & reform society.

    Why do you not bring up the countless Brahmin freedom fighters & social reformers? Bhakti Saints.

    We are the only ones who can show our face to the world. A bunch of melech Abrahamics worshipping the destroyers of their ancestors have no say.

    Understand the difference between no salvation without Mohammad Christ vs All Paths lead to the same destination.

    https://vajrin.wordpress.com/2012/11/25/sarva-dharma-samabhava-an-astika-view/

    Read Sikh scripture Uggardanti Sahib

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6L9le5gF5bldUYyRnVwdXprQ1E/view?usp=drivesdk

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170404132933/https://www.manglacharan.com/manglacharan/2016/1/11/the-merit-of-being-of-warrior-from-dasam-and-sarbloh-granth

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/praise-of-devi-dasam-granth

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/sarbloh-avtar-s-updesh-to-indra

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/the-reason-for-blue-bana-bansavalinama-1768

    Dadu, in contemplating the state of our Age of Darkness, if one hits you with a mud brick, ferociously strike back with a stone bolder."

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/forgiveness-or-force-by-guru-gobind-singh

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/this-is-how-the-singhs-fought-gur-sobha-1711

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/worshipping-weapons-passage-from-suraj-prakash

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/ugardanthi-explanation-bansavalinama
    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/importance-of-the-kamarkasa

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/form-of-sarbloh-avtar

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/lineage-and-shastarvidiya

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/dussherra-importance-in-sikhi

    It's a fact that the west wants us to be a bastard race, like Filipinos & Latin Americans, who export women & their best abroad.

    It's a fact that muslim want us as slaves & eunuchs in their haram.

    Start doing weightlifting like stronglifts.com or starting Strength we know due to demographics there will come civil war to India within 2 decades.

    It's fact that not even west will give 20 lakh scholarship to abrahamic student for study like telangana does।।

    Guru Sahib has opened the path for Ksytria if you don't take it you will be ever regretful.

    If you're a Coward then we're done here.

    The Devas of every people have long hair & Weapons।।

    Guru Sahib has spoken that consider a man with Hair but no weapons as half a man।।

    Your heart is in the right place, A China who can destroy the Hindu Buddhist kingdoms of Xinjiang & create Muslim Malaysia Indonesia, An Islam that can enslave Crores, A Christian world can genocide 2 entire continents but it's the Brahmin who lives on alms who cannot show his face.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    Replies: @Reverend Spooner, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/lineage-and-shastarvidiya

    Sikhism is seems it a bit different than Hinduism. It has many similarities with Hinduism and is close to Hinduism but is still a distinct religion.

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    @Malla

    [If fanatic Hindu foreigners want to rant on this website about their religious zealotry, they should ration their remarks more cautiously, and also take greater care in their spelling, punctuation, and grammar. Since they contribute absolutely nothing worthwhile to this website, unless they do so, their future remarks may not be published. Perhaps they'd be much happier on some other website oriented towards fanatic Hindus.]

    Doubt ur North Indian or ur from NCR||

    Religion implies exclusivity of belief,

    "15,028 names of Creator mentioned in Adi Granth Sahib|| Hari occurs over 8,000 times, Ram 2,533 times, followed by Prabhu, Gopal Govind, Parbrahm and other Hindu nomenclature for the Divine.The purely Sikh coinage 'Wahe Guru' appears only 16 time"

    Vaheguru = VasuDeva Hari Govinda Rama

    Fact is, as Harjit Singh Oberoi of Arya Samaj said: Sikhism is the purest tradition closest to Vedic Dharma||

    Hindus have many Sampradyas & Panths Sikhi + Greater Khalsa are among them||

    However on Socio-Political level there is differenece, TODAY.

    This is due to Hindu institutions being under strict Gov (Secular-Christian) control while Sikh exercise some level of autonomy||

    THis will change, DW.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ।।

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  • @Anon
    Untouchability is not found historically in Hinduism. Rajputs had marital alliances with Bhils, Iklavya's family did as well.

    Sage Valmiki Was Reformed from being outcaste.

    Nyara Sutra as Mahabharat is knowledge of a butcher.

    The Pandavs went Sri Krishna Ji himself to welcome a Shudra family.

    Many of the Dalits are actually from upper caste individuals who were made outcaste by muslims.

    An example is the policy of forcing Ksytrias to carry the waste of muslims on their head. The punishment for this in Manusmriti is banishment of both who do this.

    Same Manusmriti says it is law to give land to one who tills it. Nothing in feudalism which came with islam

    Untouchability is recent phenomenon sometimes say after 15th C AD widespread. Likely came with Khiljis

    Why don't you read of their brutality? Like how tughlaq moved the capital many times and anyone not able to keep up was killed.

    It's a fact that the largest genocide in history is the Hindu genocide in the muslim invasions. The british policy of creating famine where rebellious tendencies existed & then sending in missionaries to split the society is well known.

    A curious paradox is many converts are from the upper castes. This is true in Islam in the famous Madras famine half the Dalits of the city starved not one converted.

    Certainly there were Brahmin collaborators but much of the vitriol against them is written by and for those ignorant of Hindu civilization.

    Example they talk of Brahmin wealth when a good Brahmin is one who begs. In compiling a list of oppressed castes in the Delhi Punjab area Guru Gobind Singh Ji famously included Brahmins there.

    It's a fact that majority of the students in Takshila & Nalanda university were Shudra. If you read Fa Hien, Chinese Traveler and Megasthenes, Selucid Diplomat, accounts of India you will change your tune.

    Both said the Indian common man is the most prosperous and care free in the world. What changed after was incessant incursion by Turks.

    Our Rishis recognized the inherent inequality of man, even Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji says Varna comes from Akal Purakh.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/06/the-genetic-limits-of-social-mobility/

    http://www.socialmatter.net/2016/12/16/a-brief-defense-of-the-hereditarian-caste-system/

    http://thefutureprimaeval.net/material-and-social-technologies/

    Even the Celts had Sati it's an old Indo European tradition and existed where women had more value actually. In places where women had greater status and honor than say Greece/Rome (non existent) vs German/Norse & Celtic.

    You should read the stories of young widows both during British & Mughal times. One Widow in front of Akbar burnt her own arm to a crisp to protest her not being allowed to Sati & he had to relent।।

    In front of the Brits a young 16 year Widow of Bengal burnt her own finger off with a candle, the officer got out of the way, and she became Sati.

    Sati Mata Ki Jai!

    If you understand the mosaic distinction or the idea that all philosophy before us or outside our tradition is false, then you would have no kind words for Christianity, Islam, Judaism or Liberalism.

    They prevent the vertical transfer of knowledge

    https://devayasna.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/religion-counter-religion-and-the-weirdness-of-modernity
    http://thefutureprimaeval.net/a-short-argument-for-traditions/

    It is a Brahmin job to preserve tradition although there have been many reformers it is more so the Ksytria job to guide & reform society.

    Why do you not bring up the countless Brahmin freedom fighters & social reformers? Bhakti Saints.

    We are the only ones who can show our face to the world. A bunch of melech Abrahamics worshipping the destroyers of their ancestors have no say.

    Understand the difference between no salvation without Mohammad Christ vs All Paths lead to the same destination.

    https://vajrin.wordpress.com/2012/11/25/sarva-dharma-samabhava-an-astika-view/

    Read Sikh scripture Uggardanti Sahib

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6L9le5gF5bldUYyRnVwdXprQ1E/view?usp=drivesdk

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170404132933/https://www.manglacharan.com/manglacharan/2016/1/11/the-merit-of-being-of-warrior-from-dasam-and-sarbloh-granth

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/praise-of-devi-dasam-granth

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/sarbloh-avtar-s-updesh-to-indra

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/the-reason-for-blue-bana-bansavalinama-1768

    Dadu, in contemplating the state of our Age of Darkness, if one hits you with a mud brick, ferociously strike back with a stone bolder."

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/forgiveness-or-force-by-guru-gobind-singh

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/this-is-how-the-singhs-fought-gur-sobha-1711

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/worshipping-weapons-passage-from-suraj-prakash

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/ugardanthi-explanation-bansavalinama
    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/importance-of-the-kamarkasa

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/form-of-sarbloh-avtar

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/lineage-and-shastarvidiya

    https://www.manglacharan.com/home/dussherra-importance-in-sikhi

    It's a fact that the west wants us to be a bastard race, like Filipinos & Latin Americans, who export women & their best abroad.

    It's a fact that muslim want us as slaves & eunuchs in their haram.

    Start doing weightlifting like stronglifts.com or starting Strength we know due to demographics there will come civil war to India within 2 decades.

    It's fact that not even west will give 20 lakh scholarship to abrahamic student for study like telangana does।।

    Guru Sahib has opened the path for Ksytria if you don't take it you will be ever regretful.

    If you're a Coward then we're done here.

    The Devas of every people have long hair & Weapons।।

    Guru Sahib has spoken that consider a man with Hair but no weapons as half a man।।

    Your heart is in the right place, A China who can destroy the Hindu Buddhist kingdoms of Xinjiang & create Muslim Malaysia Indonesia, An Islam that can enslave Crores, A Christian world can genocide 2 entire continents but it's the Brahmin who lives on alms who cannot show his face.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    Replies: @Reverend Spooner, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla, @Malla


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