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“Religion had little to do with their vote, then or now.”

Than why aren’t the majority of White Atheists pro-Trump.

Look up the difference between “no correlation” and “inverse correlation”, please. (Never mind “than” and “then”.)

So are oxygen, water, sunlight.

“Religion had little to do with their vote, then or now.”

Than why aren’t the majority of White Atheists pro-Trump.

“It is a lie that it is Islam that is the efficient cause of the “attacks.”

It is 100 percent fact that Islam is the cause of the attacks.

Four days after…

The Pope is said to be applying his vision of a ‘merciful church’to sex offenders by reducing punishments to weaker sentences, such as a lifetime of prayer and penance.

It has been revealed by church officials that Pope Francis overruled advice given to him by the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith about two priests – allowing them to be punished by a lifetime of prayer.

One of the priests was the Reverend Mauro Inzoli, who was found guilty of abusing young boys by the Vatican in 2012 and was ordered to be defrocked.

However, he appealed, and in 2014 Francis reduced the penalty to a lifetime of prayer, prohibiting him from celebrating Mass in public or being near children, barring him from his diocese and ordering five years of psychotherapy.

Rev Inzoli was then convicted by an Italian criminal court for his sex crimes against five children as young as 12.
A church official has said some paedophile priests and their high-ranking friends appealed to Pope Francis by citing the pope’s own words about mercy in their petitions.

They said: ‘With all this emphasis on mercy … he is creating the environment for such initiatives.’

Comparatively, his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, rarely granted clemency petitions and defrocked 800 priests, who had raped and molested children, during his eight-year papacy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4259164/Pope-quietly-trims-sanctions-sex-abusers-seeking-mercy.html

Twinkie, are you Asian? I know you’re RCC but once you confirm or deny you Asianess then I will comment on the RCC.

Absolutely. Society can be set up to encourage virtue, or it can be set up to encourage vice. Most people will go along with either. That is, most people will happily follow the Pied Piper straight into Hell. Something about millstones.

Touche!

No more than some other professions, like teaching for a good example. Gay priests do stick to molesting mostly boys though.

Variation on a theme:

A hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints.

Mr. Jesus, tear down this gate! – St. Peter, circa 33 A.D.

“deep inside they hate what they have become”

But didn’t they have a lot of targeted help in the ‘becoming’ process?

(I’m currently reading an English novel of little literary merit published in 1962. The characters therein aren’t portrayed as being morally any better than today’s Brits – only a minority of them ever worry about whether their actions are “good” as opposed to “the done thing” i.e. what’s considered proper or improper, as reinforced by media and (often) law. Yet what’s considered proper or improper has changed utterly in that time, mostly as the result of deliberate and sustained action on the cultural and legal fronts.)

Jester, Unfortunately, a dove doesn’t descend and rest on the head of the Pope to-be, but rather a group of tired old men, probably with faulty bladders and swollen prostrates vote until a compromise candidate is elected. Pope Francis, Jorge Cardinal Bergoglio, was 76 when he elected on the fifth ballot. At 76 years of age maybe the College of Cardinals expect a short reign.

Olorin, James Joyce reincarnate…bravo.

Fake pope.

I loled when you equated wasting a hajj kid on accident in one of the most confusing and stressful situations a human can be in (a firefight) to deliberately murdering an innocent and defenseless man when under no duress.

You’re not very good at comparisons.

This lady –http://www.barnhardt.biz

What the Catholic Church actually teaches about immigration. From the Catholic Encyclopedia, 1917:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10291a.htm

The legal control of migration began when it ceased to be collective and began to be individual. Laws have been passed preventing people from leaving their native land, and also, by the country of destination, forbidding or regulating entrance thereto. Extensive regulation has been found necessary applying to transportation companies and their agents, the means of transportation, treatment en route and at terminal points. The justification of public interference is to be found in the right of a nation to control the variations of its own population. The highest necessity is that arising from war: on this ground nations almost universally regulate very closely the movements of population, forbidding emigration, that they may not lose their soldiers, and guarding immigration as a military precaution. Restrictive measures are also justified on grounds of health and morals, and on the general ground that a national family has a right to say who shall join it…

…The attitude of the United States at the present time (1910) towards foreign immigration is one of caution. Actual and projected legislation aims, not at exclusion, but at selection. It is recognized that the assimilative power, even of America, has its limits. Legislation must, by the application of rational principles, eliminate those incapable of assimilation to the general culture of the country. Great care is, of course, necessary in determining and applying these principles of selection: an educational test, for instance, while it would exclude much ignorance, would also exclude much honesty, frugality, industry, and solid worth. It is probable that a more vigorous system of inspection of immigrants at ports of entry will be put in force, while a stricter control will be exercised over the steamship companies. At the same time, the co-operation of foreign governments is needed, if the exclusive measures designed for the protection of the United States against undesirable immigration are to be made thoroughly effective.

Not everything that happened over the last 500 years was bad, and anawful lot of horrendously bad things happened to (and within) Christendom before the Reformation.

Raising and taking care of children is hard work.

Is it in fact?

The Pope’s a heretic, but let’s make sure we get the semantics right, so the Catholics don’t get riled up.

No, I had the terminology right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharist

The Eucharist /ˈjuːkərɪst/ (also called Holy Communion, the Lord’s Supper, among others) is a Christian rite that is considered a sacrament in most churches. According to the New Testament, It was instituted by Jesus Christ during his Last Supper. Giving his disciples bread and wine during the Passover meal, Jesus commanded his followers to “do this in memory of Me” while referring to the bread as “My Body” and the wine as “My Blood”.[1][2] Through the Eucharistic celebration Christians remember Christ’s sacrifice of himself on the cross.[3]

The elements of the Eucharist, bread (leavened or unleavened) and wine (or grape juice), are consecrated on an altar (or Communion table) and consumed thereafter. Communicants (that is, those who consume the elements) may speak of “receiving the Eucharist”, as well as “celebrating the Eucharist”.

I thought all Christians did this, but I’ll defer to Bill: Catholics don’t.

Catholics and their terminology. The wafers, the bread, the bloody blessing.

Anon, The truth of the matter is that the Pope is always a compromise between voting factions of the Church represented by the Cardinals. However, the Cardinals are all appointed by the pope, so there is really no representation of the Church members. The Pope’s intellect, any Pope’s intellect, probably plays very little into his selection, but his leaning toward orthodoxy and traditional teachings probably weighs a lot.

I could tell right off the bat that Amoris Laetitia was an incoherent, self-contradictory mess.

Do you really think he wrote it himself? I think the incoherence is probably intentional, to enable both a heterodox and an orthodox interpretation; the former to enable practice and the latter so the encyclical can be defended, by a motte-and-bailey method.

Fr. Bergoglio seems to have been quite intelligent at one time. I can’t help but wonder whether the Holy Father suffers from some mild form of senility.

I have been informed that the Pope is a Jesuit–therefore, not a Catholic. (I don’t have a dog in this fight.)

Mel, Thank you, a bit of hyperbole on my part, but just to be safe, I volunteer at a soup kitchen to earn purgatory points.

I have been a Protestant my whole life and I cannot recommend that you go ahead with that plan.

The #1 thing you absolutely must do, when you have difficulty with anything church related, is go back to Jesus Christ and reset your bearings.

You might try a traditional mass. Also remind yourself that you go to Church for God, not the politics of the pope or metropolitan or bishop or whoever. So even if the leadership is wacky (Francis), don’t let that destroy what you know to be true (Fall, Incarnation, Crucifixion, Resurrection).

Maranatha!

Not to dissuade you if your interest in the Orthodox church is genuinely spiritual and where you think God is leading you. If that’s the case, go ahead.

However, if you are looking for less left-wing insanity, try elsewhere. The Antiochian group has a reputation for being extremely leftist and have a robust anti-White streak. They are the ones who booted Heimbach for hispolitics, you know, for thinking like every Orthodox Christian did 100 years prior.

aren’t Eric Prince and Betsy Devos Dutch Reformed?

They were certainly raised that way. They’re from Holland, MI, and grew up in the Christian Reformed Church.

But I checked their wikipedia pages, and it seems Erik has converted to Roman Catholicism, and Betsy now is a member of a kind of Calvinist-inspired megachurch.

To everyone on the thread justifiably complaining about the intellectual level of US churches, I recommend listening to the Mars Hill Audio Journal, in which many academics, mostly Christian ones, cast a justifiably critical eye on what’s become of modern culture. Sample:

https://marshillaudio.org/catalog/volume-56

Professor David Jacobson discusses the role of place in the classic understanding of citizenship. Jacobson is author of Place and Belonging in America. Citizenship, he explains, has traditionally been understood in terms of membership and rights; if one were a member of a specific community in a particular place, one would benefit from the rights derived from participation in that community. But now, thanks in part to the increasing number of global institutions, citizenship is no longer equated with loyalty to a place. Now people do not need to participate in the life of a place in order to have the benefit of rights.

How exactly do the crucifixion, resurrection, atonement fit into this scheme?

Pretty sure that even the liberal mainstream doesn’t doubt that Jesus existed and was a teacher, got baptized and crucified, etc. Those who doubt his existence are called “mythicists” and seen as kooky.

On the other hand, there’s this from 1970:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sacred_Mushroom_and_the_Cross

To some biblical scholars in Britain, the new book looked like the psychedelic ravings of a hippie cultist. To others, it was merely an outlandish hoax. One described it as reading “like a Semitic philologist’s erotic nightmare.”

The object of all this learned scorn was The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, which argues that Jesus was not a man but a hallucinogenic mushroom, Amanita muscaria; that the New Testament was concocted by addicts of the mushroom as a code for their mystical lore; and that the God of Jews and Christians is ultimately nothing more than a magnificent phallic symbol.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,909327,00.html

Sola fide, Luther’s doctrine that started Protestantism, is false to Scripture and to church history. he made it up whole cloth, and then was more than OK with all the bloodshed and cultural destruction he caused. Perhaps more important, the core Reformation doctrines early on became defenses for cultural, moral, and Biblical liberalism. Faith only + every man his own priest + once saved always saved = Whatever I do or teach cannot damn me as long as I have faith.

if you have trouble with the idea, name the most important centers of the Reformation: Geneva, Berlin, London, Amsterdam, Zurich. Then name the main centers (circa 1850 and 1900) of Christian Liberalism and resulting cultural liberalism and moral decay that spread across the Western world: Geneva, Berlin, London, Amsterdam, Zurich, plus the spawn of England in Boston and New York.

If you are Catholic, the first thing you should do is attend only the Traditional Latin Mass. If that cannot suit you, look to the Russian Orthodox Church. Not Greek. Russian.

For a while (he’s on hiatus now), @DrDialogueSJ did a great Onion-style version of a liberal Catholic theologian on Twitter.

As usual, it’s hard to tell the Onion version apart from the real thing, i.e. @MassimoFaggioli and @JamesMartinSJ.

Eternity in Purgatory? I’m not a Catholic, but from what I know of that faith’s doctrines, that would defeat the entire purpose of Purgatory, which is to cleanse the soul of its failings and sins. 100% of the people in Purgatory are going to Heaven, the only potential difference would be how long it would take – if length of time has any meaning, post-death.

I am not Catholic but it seems to me that schism would be better than the grievous error into which this Pope has plunged the Church.

If no country will accept a person not lawfully in the United States, put them in indefinite detention in the Aleutian Islands; that should give them an incentive to prove that they are a citizen of somewhere else, or to find a country that wants them. “You will leave this island only when you are going to some place other than the United States. If not, you will die here.”

Jorge Bergoglio, AKA Pope Francis, is to the Catholic Church and its Magisterium as Lenin was to Russia and its cultural heritage.

I was always under the impression that entry into heaven involved extreme vetting.

It used to be that way. But the new enlightenment is that anyone who thinks or acts to deny someone Heaven regardless of their personal foibles and the consequences of their anti-social behavior is a racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, sexist, Islamophobic oppressor using his privilege to interfere with others’ free will and freedom to choose … and therefore deserves eternal damnation. You see, the point of free will is not to choose betweenGood andEvil and be held accountable as an adult for your choices. That’s the old stuff. The new stuff is to do as you please as aChild of God and be given eternal salvation as your reward.

Somehow I recall these fundamental though simple principles governing neo-Christian theology and Western Civilization were firmly established back in the 1960s by the saints and martyrs of the neo-Christian awakening that many call the Hippie movement:

If it feels good, do it!

Turn on, tune in, drop out! … or something like that.

I think we should cut the Rosato Brothers some slack. They were more inclusive than the Corleones and esp Pantangeli. They recruited those of other races and ethnic groups. Pope Francis would surely bless the Rosatos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL5DX05gNNk

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To be sure, the Corleones could be inclusive too. Since America adopted Vito, he later adopted Tom Hagen the German-Irishman to serve the Corleones.

https://youtu.be/uPENNtXDKZw?t=17s

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Come to think of it, much of Wasp America has become Hagenized. The ethnics first arrived to serve the Wasps, but today, the Great Wasp Hope is to be adopted into the dominant ethnic clan. If not Hagenized, they soon become Geary-Wearied. I wonder what the Deepshi* State is cooking up to Gearize The Donald.

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Indeed, the transformation of National Review and Buckley is alarming. The Narrative says Buckley and Wasp Conservatives generously opened the door to let in poor homeless Neocon Jews, the emigrants from the Failed State of Trotskidonia. So, Wasp Cons had the power and were just doing a favor to the huddled Neocon refuse yearning to be free.
That is the surface narrative.

But underneath, something else was happening. The real power was shifting or had already shifted to the Jews, and the desperate Wasp Cons were seeking a way IN to this Real Power. And Neocons, as junior partners of Jewish America Inc., were the ones who let them in ON CONDITION that they renounce race-ism, nationalism, and white identity AND worship at the altar of MLK, shut up about homo issues, embrace open borders, define America as a proposition, and feel closer to Israel than to UK, the traditional motherland of the US.

Shallow surface narrative can be deceiving. The deep narrative, the undercurrents of power, is where it really happens.

So, those who attack Buckley are missing the point. They assume he had this great power and misused it by letting in neocons. But in truth, he realized the Power Game had shifted. Its ethnic balance was now in favor of Jews. And he wanted an IN with this Great Power. It was the last card left.

Maybe things would have played out differently in the 80s if the internet had existed back then. Internet has changed the game somewhat because MSM and academia have been challenged by explosion of alternative views.
But prior to the internet, all of media was about gatekeeping.

Ironic that those who call for free trade and open borders are for total gate-keeping and wall-building when it comes to news, info, and narratives.

Those who take umbrage at the term ‘illegal alien’ came up with the idea of ‘fake news’, which is any news not blessed by MSM’s holy water.

But if ‘no human is illegal’, maybe ‘no news is fake’.

It is a lie that it is Islam that is the efficient cause of the “attacks.” Sure, it is Muslims carrying out the “attacks.” They are doing so in retaliation for American and Israeli bombs.

I know this much; Catholics refused me Eucharist; never known Protestants to do that to anyone

Indeed, you can’t refuse to give something you don’t have in the first place.

That was awesome.

Stay around, NC, and keep on commenting.
You are a voice of God’s disgust and a prophet of his avenging Justice.

Donald J. Trump won a higher percentage of the White Evangelical vote than John McCain, George W. Bush, and Mitt Romney did.

Ah, but who carried thenonwhite evangelicals?

Franklin Roosevelt carried a higher percentage of Southerners than any Southern candidate did, indeed, any candidate at all. (Wilson is a distant second.) And that includes pretty much all of whatever “evangelicals” were called at that time.

Religion had little to do with their vote, then or now.

… because Evangelicalism assumes your capacity for reason is a gift from God.

And the Bible means anything you want it to. Thus all those rainbows on churches all over.

Agree.

Bill, My grammar school and high school no longer exist. College was Canisius , a Jesuit school in Buffalo.

Jeff, Thank you and I agree with you. Get a copy of the book “God’s Bankers” for a look at the Popes from WWII to today . An eye opener, made me sad to be a Catholic.

Twinkie is saying that the Calvinist notion of predestination is BS. (Admittedly, it would have been better not to say the words “there is no predestination”) Catholics also believe in predestination, but ours is not in tension with free will.Here is a link to the Catholic Encyclopedia entry on the Catholic dogma of Predestination.

Pope Francis is unusual as a famous Jesuit who is apparently impatient with systematic, organized rational thought. Such men certainly exist in the Society, but generally, most of the Jesuits who enter the public eye tend to be formidable intellectual warriors and debaters- this is true of both thelaxest moonbat liberals and moststalwart traditionalists. There’s surely nothing wrong with the Holy Father’s IQ, but based on his trouble grasping the logical implications of ideas, and his tetchiness toward reasoned criticism, he probably couldn’t argue his way out of a wet paper sack. It’s likely the average second-year seminarian would mop the floor with Pope Francis in a formally-moderated theological debate. I’m not a trained theologian (apart from one required class in college), and evenI could tell right off the bat thatAmoris Laetitia was an incoherent, self-contradictory mess.

Good comment, except this:

[infallibility] is an extremely limited doctrine which has only applied to less than 10 total things—individual points of dogma—in the last 2000 years of the Church.

which is wrong. Just theSyllabus of Errors has more than 10 infallible pronouncements in it. Probably, you mean that fewer than 10*new* things have been infallibly defined since the First Vatican Council (where Papal Infallibility itself was infallibly defined). Tons and tons of stuff is retconned into infallibility by Vat I (not that much of anyone really doubted any of that stuff was infallible before, but if you have a certain type of mind . . .).

Shrug. That horse left the barn long ago. Try finding a Catholic who thinks Protties go to Hell, for example.

The logical conclusion of this argument is that everyone is entitled to the Kingdom of Heaven, regardless of belief or actions on earth. Do I smell…heresy?

Long nap? This “pope” is absolutely a heretic, and has been openly propagating heresy for his entire tenure. His heresy is leftist, as are almost all heresies these days, so few real Christians remain to call him on it.

Stop hyper-ventilating, you bunch of anti-Catholics.

Stop protecting an arch-heretic and throwing good people in with a heretics, you heretic.

So is heaven. This is a crucial theological difference bewteen Catholicism and (most) Protestantism, especially of the Calvinist variety. In the former, free will – a divine gift – is very important. Hence, there is no predestination. All souls are – theoretically – capable of gaining entrance to heaven. A man’s faith is not preordained. It is through his own free choice – his beliefs AND actions – that he either gains heaven or descends into hell. God could have willed all of us into heaven, but didn’t. He offered us the freedom to choose, because that’s what faith, as virtue, is – a choice.

Catholics seem to pass around a lot of horse manure concerning Christianity other than their own. I know this much; Catholics refused me Eucharist;never known Protestants to do that to anyone. I’m talking personal experience, here, not theory.

Only God knows who will or will not go to Hell or gain entrance to Heaven.

So, entrance into Heavenmight as well be preordained, then.

No one knows how to worship properly, as evidenced by all of these factions of Christianity. Each of you sounds like those boys in the movie, “Stand By me”, who earnestly debate whether Mighty Mouse or Superman would emerge victorious in a fight between them. One of the boys declares, “You idiot! Superman’s real guy!” We’re talking about talking burning bushes here, folks.

One can reason from one’s own moral sense, as to the morality of a given belief system. E.g., my reason tells me that the God many worship is an evil tyrant, because only an evil tyrant would subject immortal souls to eternal torment for actions taken in a finite lifespan.

Sorry folks but this was kind of inevitable. Keep repeating the Sermon on the Mount everyday and soon you too will be thinking and talking like Francis.

Keep repeating the bit in the OT about accommodating the stranger, and soon you too will find it impossible to maintain borders in Israel. Yet, maintain they do…

Oh? He wrote much that I haven’t read but from what I have, he was the doctor of Grace. That is, we are saved by God’s grace. Because even after faith and acts, we will still fall short of the two commandments (Love God with all, love neighbor as yourself) if we are honest. And that breach is saved by Grace. That is still the teaching of the Catholic Church. (Well, until Francis)

Funny, that’s a lot like what Protestants teach. After they file down their horns and cover their cloven hooves, I mean.

2. Please don’t blaspheme, even as a joke.

This, from an open defender of a heretic.

He’s saying that the churches themselves are pro-open-borders. The Southern Baptist Convention leadership wrote op-eds for the New York Times and other such sources during the campaign, denouncing Trump for being an Evildoer who racistly doesn’t support open borders, like all Good Christians do.

In defense of Christians (not just Baptists) everywhere, it’s not like theTimes et al are going to publish any other opinions from them.

Catholic…still will be long after this leftist geezer dies. Gates of hell won’t prevail against my church.

I wish I could send my kids to your old school.

I think Francis is a radical traditionalist Catholic trolling the liberals.

It depends on your state of health. Pregnant women don’t fast for example. Brittle diabetics don’t go for 24 hours without eating or drinking. The fast is on a spectrum.

There is a very real possibility of a Catholic schism happening in the near future.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2017/02/15/the-church-is-now-in-a-full-blown-civil-war-over-doctrine/

Aside from his open borders fanaticism, Bergoglio has taken every opportunity to lash out at the trad Catholics from day one. This is essentially a repeat of what the Mainline Prod churches underwent a generation or two earlier. The results are all too easy to predict.

http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=9103

+10 to the movie Calvary. Very good. Brendan Gleeson is a great actor.

At that resolution, the anti-pope’s Twitter profile pic is creepy. That fits, because the anti-pope is creepy.

Looks like I’ve had the same thoughts everyone else has had:

Jesus entrusted to Peter the keys to open the entrance to the kingdom of Heaven, and not to close it

Why did God put a door or a lock on the kingdom of Heaven at all, if He intended for it to be open to all, forever?

And why would Peter find that door closed and locked in the first place, if He intended it to be open to all, forever?

And WTF is the point of listening to the anti-pope at all, if He intended to fill Heaven with anyone who wants in, regardless of their behavior, or observance of law?

One supposes that Vatican City’s keys are for good, old-fashioned, opening and closing.

Since one need do nothing to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, I demand that Peter come and find me after I die, and carry me in. And I’m going to violate as many of God’s laws as possible until then (profaning the anti-pope doesn’t count).

That’s how it works now, right?

As a serious evangelical, I love to visit Sailer’s blog but rarely comment anymore. Low Protestant churches–especially non-denominational ones–can be quite hit-or-miss regarding aesthetic appeal of the building, quality of worship music, insight and thoughtfulness of the pastor, etc.; although most of them (especially in conservative parts of the country) tend to get doctrine right and preach the gospel. For its beauty and tradition, the Catholic Church has wrongly placed itself as an equal authority to God’s final revealed Word. This is far more dangerous for a parishioner than sitting next to an overweight college drop-out.

Jefferson: Please don’t put the cart before the horse. Become a committed Christian first, and find out what that means. Visit various churches in your area and join one that teaches truth and puts things in the proper order. The point of church is to surround yourself with fellow believers and grow in unity and love.

John 13:34

A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.

aren’t Eric Prince and Betsy Devos Dutch Reformed?

So Senor Pope, In other words, my family and a few hundred of my closest friends are free to move into Vatican City, right? Give us some time to pack our stuff and get our plane tickets and we’ll be there soon. No? So in other words, you are a hypocrite. PATHETIC.

Etymologically, Paradise means garden enclosed in walls. That’s what the Greek wordparadeisos means (it was borrowed from the Persian), versuskêphos, which is a garden without walls.

Besides, Saint Peter has been entrusted the keys of Paradise to open the gatesat his discretion, not to leave the gates open to anyone. If it were as Pope Francis suggests, no gate-keeper would be necessary.

This pope is the liquidator of the bankruptcy of the catholic church.

That’s funny. So I guess all those jokes about trying to talk your way past St. Peter are now hate speech.

Well, like I said, we are saved by Grace, because even after freely choosing faith, and doing good deeds, there will still be a gap between us and the full measure of Christian love. And yes, to receive that gift, we must open our hand, so to speak, to God’s grace. So no, we are not predestined (we start with original sin, but we choose, and only God’s judgment is final).

I don’t think a dead man can extend his hand, never thought about it before, but then what would be the point of this life?!

Twinkie’s link is good, clarifies Augustine position. These issues are not easily dealt with in the couple of sentences common to comment sections.

I want to trade all 72 for a Sysiphean Virgin. After a night on the mountain, she reverts, don’t you know!

Also, per Whisky, 72 virgins are pointless unless your in Whites Only Heaven, because 72 virgins love, love, love black men.

Good link, thank you. I like Augustine, and in no small measure because of Benedict XVI, who has digested him well and makes it easier to understand how the saint’s teaching has pervaded the Church. Benedict does a great job of dealing with valid questions, even when sensing a certain “malicious satisfaction” (his words!) behind then.

This Twitt really lends itself to skewering, no doubt about it. Sailer wasn’t about to pass it up. But the comments have been kinder than expected, and some have really made me laugh. Good day.

I was always under the impression that entry into heaven involved extreme vetting.

Everyone calls him psycho – anyone calls him Francis, and he’ll kill ya:

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Come on! I am the first to put this link here? Seriously? I am saddened….

“My name’s Francis Sawyer, but everyone calls me psycho.
Any of you guys call me Francis, and I’ll kill ya.
And I don’t like anybody touchin’ my stuff,
so just keep your meathooks off.
If I catch any of you guys in my stuff I’ll kill ya.
Also, I don’t like nobody touchin’ me.
Any of you homos … touch me, and I’ll kill ya.”

Everything about our culture seems to be designed to send people to hell as efficiently as possible. When you strip it bare, the only universal values they’ve left us with are the avoidance of discomfort and the pursuit of cum, both at any cost. If there’s one thing the hipster phenomena has taught us it’s that a lack of personal trauma (wars, famines, poverty, etc.) creates genuinely horrible people.

People are offended when muslims say western culture is trash and western women are cheap sluts, but they’re to a really large degree just saying the truth that Christians have lost the nerve to say. There’s not an easy way to tell that blue haired girl with the septum ring that her life and everything she believes is total rubbish. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be said.

Anyhow, the Roman Catholic Church had always been identified with right wing – that is right wing in the traditionalist Tory sense of King and Country, nobility and landed interests, and not Economist style free marketing – politics at the very least since the time of the French Revolution.
Perhaps most explicitly this was seen in Latin nations and in Argentina – the Latin offshoot in America. You know the score – all pious aunts, lace mantillas, nunneries, moustacheiod pater familias in black shiny leather boots, with a mistress on the side.
Think of Franco’s Spain or Argentina under the generals where commies were chucked out of Hercs into the South Atlantic whilst still alive. Think of the wonderfully, blunt titled ‘Hitler’s Pope’ by Hugh Cornwell. The Catholic Church, until recently was staunchly, vehemently anti-communist.
The Marxism of Pope Francis – which is egregious even compared to his two immediate predecessors, and which, seemingly, is stronger than his attachment to the articles of his faith – is revolutionary in the real sense of the word.

Many people have a problem with your Jukebox Justice (I like that term). I’d be the first one in the audience yelling“shut up and sing” to a Bono or the like during a show. However, what it really comes down to is that lyrics don’t really matter a lot to rock/pop music, so if you have a good tune and sound, you can sing any words you want and people won’t be bothered.

Your (I’m assuming, didn’t want to play it right now) link to Midnight Oil(?) and the song “Beds are Burning” is a perfect example of this for me. I had no idea what the singer had been going on about – the words come through reasonably well even with the guy’s Aussie accent, but I never knew the song was political and about the Abos until I read your comment just now. It’s got a pretty good melody and a good sound. I had always like the song because it rocks, though it’s no AC/DC by any means.

Yeah, for the Australian musicians without any political bent, I declare:For those about to rock, we salute you!

Maybe the only decent movie made about a priest in the past 50 years. You had a story about a good priest doing his best to serve a parish filled with ungrateful, broken, miserable people. It’s a perfect depiction of modern Ireland but it really applies to the entire western world. There’s a lot in it that rang true about the struggles of being a Catholic even in the midst of a culture that has become alien and unremittingly hostile. I was thinking a lot about it lately after I saw Silence last month, and in a lot of ways I found Calvary to be the more depressing of the two films. They’re both almost hopeless but Calvary is uncomfortably close to my everyday life.

I like Renegade Tribune. It seems to me Christianity is a suicidal cult for white people that I want no part of. And yes, I was raised Catholic and spent 12 years in their indoctrination schools.

Name one civilization that’s given itself over to sexual debauchery and not gone into terminal decline as a result. Are you familiar with J.D. Unwin? Because it doesn’t happen. Sex is easy. Not having babies with contraception or getting rid of them with abortion has never been easier. Raising and taking care of children is hard work. You think that because these people look alive that there’s hope. They’re already dead inside. All they live for is food, drink and cum. They’re the literal walking dead. Why do you think zombie movies are so popular? It’s because these people are zombies. We live in a society we hate which is only capable of producing broken, atomized, functionally nihilistic people. We desperately want a nuclear holocaust, mass epidemic or a wave of invaders to destroy it all and free us from it. The reason western Europe welcomes the Muslim hordes is because deep inside they hate what they have become and they know it’s not worth saving.

The real question is not why Pope Francis is behaving as a Jesuit … but rather why the College of Cardinals put the Catholic Church, Christianity, and Western Civilization at risk by elevating a Jesuit to the Papacy.

What should you expect from a Jesuit Pope …?

The Jesuits have always been suspect in the Catholic Church on account of their exposure to and involvement in non-Christian cultures, religions, and ideologies as militant missionaries operating on the boundaries of Christian Europe and Western Civilization. They were among the first globalists who sought to extend the Kingdom of God by accommodating these foreign cultures, religions, and ideologies … exactly as Pope Francis is doing. But at what point does accommodation become heresy as traditional Catholic culture and values become diluted beyond recognition?

Yes, Pope Francis is a Cultural Marxist who believes in liberation theology. He is a socialist. He is a radical feminist. He is a relativist when it comes to social mores and sexual behaviors. He believes in open borders. He believes that white males and Western Civilization carry theCurse of Cain and must do penance for their crimes. He is a globalist who seeks apax Christi that unites Catholicism, Islam, Calvinism, Shamanism, atheism, Communism, and every other “ism” extant in the world today in a globalKumbayah Party.

No surprises! Pope Francis is a Jesuit anti-Pope who is wrecking the Catholic Church.

“They believed neocon “radical Islamic terrorism” propaganda.”

It’s not propaganda when it’s a fact that Islamic terrorism exists. Omar Mateen was not a Jehovah’s Witness. Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik were not Hasidic Jews. The 9/11 terrorists were not Scientologists. The Tsarnaev Brothers are not Quakers. Nidal Hassan is not a Presbyterian.

>why is there a gate at all?

It serves as a marker to allow you to know you have arrived, like a gate at a National Park Entrance.

“Evangelicals generally will vote for whoever the Republican candidate is,”

Just like Godless Atheists will generally vote for whoever the Democratic candidate is, to the tune of 70 percent for Crooked Cankles.

“For a Republican candidate to win 81 percent of evangelical votes is actually low.”

Donald J. Trump won a higher percentage of the White Evangelical vote than John McCain, George W. Bush, and Mitt Romney did.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/16/donald-trump-outperforms-mitt-romney-john-mccain-george-bush-evangelical-voters/

The Democratic Party doubling down on their love of Muslims and all things Islam certainly turns off the vast majority of White Evangelical voters.

Evidently, Tacitus was translating from the Sanskrit in 116 AD:

“Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition [ie, Christianity], thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.”

It’s certainly likely that early Christianity grabbed onto all kinds of Greek, Persian, and Egyptian sources in creating its theology, but pretty sure Jesus existed and was crucified in the early 1st Century AD.

“If you just measure evangelicals who regularly church they will be somewhat more liberal,”

Donald J. Trump won the majority of the vote of Americans who attend some type of religious service at least once a week, so your more Liberal claim holds zero weight. If what you said were true all of the bible belt states in The South would be as equally politically blue as the Godless Atheist Pacific Northwest states for example, but they are not.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/november/trump-elected-president-thanks-to-4-in-5-white-evangelicals.html

If America was a majority Godless Atheist nation we would already be a 1 party nation in favor of The Democratic Party.

“And just because some of them voted for Trump”

81 percent is a hell of a lot more than just some Evangelicals.

The cultural revolution that took 50 years in England took about 25 in Ireland, and mass immigration on an almost-English scale is almost entirely a product of the last 15 years. Still, there are AFAIK as yet no Irish cities where native Irish are a minority.

“What good is it to secure their borders if in a couple generations there are only octogenarian sluts inside of them.”

Because making babies is easy and pleasurable, demographic decline can be reversed if you want to (the UK would have been a better place with 50 million (post-WW2 population) people).

But once the high-fertility strangers are within the gates…

Meanwhile, trouble inVatocan’s Paradise continues;

Mexico’s lead negotiator with the Trump administration, Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray, said there was no way Mexico would accept the new rules, which among other things seek to deport non-Mexicans to Mexico:

“I want to say clearly and emphatically that the government of Mexico and the Mexican people do not have to accept provisions thatone government unilaterally wants to impose on the other,” he told reporters at the Foreign Ministry.

Mexico will insist that the United States proves the nationality of any person it wants to deport to Mexico, he said.

“We also have control of our borders and we will exercise it fully,” he said, adding thatMexico was prepared to go the United Nations to defend the freedoms and rights of Mexicans under international law.

Roberto Campa, who heads the human rights department of the Interior Ministry, said theplan to deport non-Mexicans to Mexico was “hostile” and “unacceptable.”

Senators for the leading leftist opposition party, the Party of the Democratic Revolution, saidTillerson and Kelly were not welcome in the countryand they urged Pena Nieto not to meet with them.

“Recent epoch-making discoveries of old Sanskrit manuscripts”: fascinating. Have you got a link?

Matthew 7.13-14

“Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it”

Francis should ponder verse 15

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”

YOLO – You Only Live Once.

Sam Hyde explains stripper wisdom:
https://youtu.be/SHlRtGqFODc?t=2m51s

Video Link

Ireland is the only country that’s ever legalized gay marriage by a democratic vote, by more than 60%. What else do you need to know?

When I talk about whores I’m referring to women who have sex for money. I’m saying that women from the secular Czech republic are much more likely to be actual whores than women from Catholic Slovakia or Poland or pretty much anywhere else in Europe.

I got peckish and made some rye toast.

When it came out of the toaster oven I was surprised to see it had words scorched into it. They read:

YOU CHARACTERS SUPPLY THE BEST COMEDY I EVER WROTE

THANKS

LOVE
GOD

I ate the toast with a big dollop of Irish pastured butter. Salted. It was tasty.

Before I did, I thought of all my ancestors who died of starvation. I remembered times of going hungry as a kid. I thanked them for hanging on because it meant I got to be here. And for giving me genes that let me survive going hungry as a kid. I let them know I carried some of their hunger grief, and that it was still an OK stone. Better than some have.

Then I went to bed.

In my dreams my grandfather dropped by. I said, “Cap’n Gramp, you promised to tell me the punchline of that joke about how death is the punchline of life. You didn’t in life, you haven’t in dreams, and now 50 years later, I want it.”

He laughed and said, “Silly. I thought you’d figure it out. The punchline is that life is the punchline.”

He opened his cupped hands. The wren flew up, happy to be warmed, and went into the firewood hut to sing. I decided listening was more important than making kindling.

No, being legalistic about Christianity makes it all too much about winning debates and scoring points and not enough about the transcedent.

They believed neocon “radical Islamic terrorism” propaganda.

As long as the punishment waits until the Day of Judgment, what’s the problem in their getting along?

YOLO stripper wisdom.

Please define?

Would also be interested in getting a better read on how PC Ireland is nowadays.

When you refer to the Czech Republic as the whore capital, are you defining whore as a woman who has non reproductive sex?

The Romans used to say: “Quos Jupiter vult perdere prius dementat”: those whom Jupiter wishes to destroy he first drives mad.

It seems that Jupiter has decided that the catholic episode has lasted long enough.

I think the time has come the restore the age old practice of a counter-pope. Real estate is still available in Avignon.

“They are a bunch of nationalistic Eastern Euros in Poland. Swedes think Swedes and Sweden are evil. Poles think Poles and Poland are the greatest. Czechs think Czechs and Czechia are the greatest. Czechs are also nationalistic Eastern Euros, as are Estonians, Slovenians, etc, which is orthogonal to whether they’re Bible-thumpers or the “whore capital of Europe.”

Why did Donald J. Trump perform extremely poorly with Atheist voters in The U.S.

“Sure, but they aren’t actually atheists, as they claim. In fact, they’re religious extremists. They are followers of the same religion as Pope Francis and Angela Merkel.”

Nope they are Atheists because they do not believe in the existence of a higher power in the sky that will greet them once they die.

Sure, but they aren’t actually atheists, as they claim. In fact, they’re religious extremists. They are followers of the same religion as Pope Francis and Angela Merkel.

Many Orthodox churches will not communicate Catholics, and one has no right to receive surreptitiously (in which case one would, I imagine, be committing the sin of scandal). Also, attending an Orthodox liturgy will not fulfill the weekly obligation.

I am aware. It’s something I would only take advantage of in extremis.