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 All / On"Mao Zedong"
    Colleagues, rivals, academics and propagandists East and West have written much nonsense about Mao Zedong yet, when we correct for bias and discard patent falsehoods it becomes clear that, apart from the bloodshed that accompanies wars and revolutions, it’s doubtful that Mao killed anyone and indubitable that he gave life to billions. Indeed, no-one has...
  • The fatal flaw of the original article has never been addressed.
    The authors premise is Mao was the originator/inventor/author of the CCP policies implemented during his time as Chairman. He is thus measured as being responsible for the success or failures of those policies.
    The debate about the efficacy of those policies is irrelevant.
    The bantering over the moral justifications or morality of those policies is also irrelevant.
    This whole line of argument is an absurd non-sequitur which only makes the articles authorseem
    vindicated. He has honestly and accurately provided valid info, which supports his STRAWMAN Mao.

    Herein lies the rub:
    To what extent did Mr. Mao’s personal interests ambitions ideologies superstitions etc… influence policy.
    The author of the article concedes Mao was only Chairman, nothing more nothing less.

    Indeed, but how much of Mao was actually IN those policies, Our author conveniently offers ZERO evidence.
    Thus he wishes to credit Mao with all success in one breath but affirms his position is merely as Chief Spokesperson for the agendas in the next.

    Now lets judges apples to apples to see if his argument holds water.
    Take ANY National leader and dig into their personal contributions to the policies implemented during their tenure.
    Close examination is available in print for most leaders.
    Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini being dictators naturally should be expected as having the most potential for having their OWN personals agendas implemented.
    I argue historians have thoroughly & consistently pointed out how little actual power despots enjoyed and dispensed. Moreover how delicate and fragile that power was. and how sensitive it was if the ‘Right” policies were not championed. And how a “Leaders” longevity is so directly proportional to his “Leadership Role” in implementing promoting or rejecting ‘HIS? policies’”
    Ask Saddam or Muammar how well it went for them when they exerted their personal desires and changed their countries policies to bite the hand that fed them.

    Now scroll down to Mao and Churchill, Roosevelt etc…
    We should expect an even far more restrictive environment for investment of personal preferences and initiatives, save embellishing their own aggrandizement self-accreditation.
    Judged in this light FDR, Churchill rank as Supreme Sycophants.
    Mao was thus ENTHRONED as G.M. of ZOG’s farm team with plans to enter the Majors and was later awarded a National franchise.
    Just as IKE was enthroned as S.C.A.F. not for his military skills and experience which were no-existent, save incompetency, Especially so in Mao’s case . No he was likewise enthroned for his political savvy i.e. Skill as a sycophant.

    Mao’s Chairmanship was directly proportional to his skill as a sycophant.
    He has been thoroughly doxed as a product of the Rockefeller Globalist progroms.
    Our intentionally incompetant author will dare not reveal who is the true author of the ‘Five Year Plans” of both Russia and China as it would again negate his premise.

    What is also well documented, which again the author of the article has decided to ignore dismiss, is that on the occasions Mao did take a personal active interest to assert his own energy and zeal (as aggressively as he did with the Sparrows and Teen girls). We find a direct correlation to the more painful and disastrous episodes in China’s history.

    In this light we can now understand the quality and competency of the Author and the article.

  • In a Empire of Lies, only brush with reality will inform people of the truth, especially as lives have become more atomized. In the past, when people were closer to family and kinfolk, they might have heard of first-hand experiences of close ones. Now, many people just know their nuclear family or individual lives, and...
  • @Ron Unz
    @Yee


    My grandparents lived in rural, they don’t know anyone who starved to dead either, neither do the grandparents of about two dozens of my schoolmates.

    Finding people who “didn’t notice anything” is easy, it’s finding the opposite that is hard.
     
    I've gone through this Mao's-Gigantic-Famine-Never-Happened nonsense too many times to bother arguing it again, but here's China's official demographic population from a couple of decades later, which shows a *gigantic* hole right around 1959-1961:

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/China_Sex_By_Age_1982_census.png

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#Population_of_China_by_age_and_sex_(demographic_pyramid)

    Offhand, it looks like many, many, many millions of Chinese people "disappeared" around then. I say it was probably due to massive starvation, including huge infant mortality rates and reduced fertility.

    Since you claim there wasn't any famine, how do you explain it? Did millions of Chinese move to Venus or something?

    Replies: @Ivan K.

    See Gao Mobo (2018), Ch.8.

    In brief:

    What makes the issue of the Great Leap Forward (GLF) death toll more contestable is that there was no population census, nor a sample survey, at that time. The population statistics of 1958–61 were released for the first time in the China Statistical Yearbook in 1983, according to which the population at the year-end of 1960 and 1961 decreased by ten million and 3.48 million from the previous years respectively. Neither the minister for Public Security nor the State Statistics Bureau provided, or has ever been able to provide, an explanation for the dent. Hence the famine death toll was given as the obvious explanation. But a mathematician, prof. Sun Jingxian (2016) provides an alternative account:
    1) missing registration or double registration happened at a time when the hukou system regulations could not be fully enforced and when
    2) there was huge migration during the GLF
    3) the rural sector did not rely on government ration tickets for food and welfare provisions, and therefore hukou registration only restricted their movement to the urban sector but did not impact their livelihood when they returned to the country, facts of which can be confirmed in Luo Pinghan (2003).

  • Idology(idolatry-as-ideology) vs Reality. The plain cold truth is that blacks kill blacks, and cops have been saving black lives over the years by coming between blacks and blacks. Minus the presence of cops, blacks kill more blacks, as well as nonblacks in the bargain. That is the hard reality. But in 2020, Jews needed extra...
  • @geezer
    Blacks only dominate in basketball and American football; even in professional baseball, the percentage of blacks participating is decreasing. Winter sports? next to no presence. Boxing? Blacks are on the way down.

    Replies: @Priss Factor

    Blacks beat up whites in schools, stations, buses, trains. In ‘street sports’, blacks dominate others.

    And in high schools, it doesn’t take too many blacks to take over the sports. If a high school is 10% black, they will dominate much of the popular sports. It means white guys will be reduced to benchwarmers and fan cucks, and white girls will go with black athletes. At least in the past, pop culture didn’t promote that, but that’s all pop culture does with music, advertising, and tv shows.

  • Blacks only dominate in basketball and American football; even in professional baseball, the percentage of blacks participating is decreasing. Winter sports? next to no presence. Boxing? Blacks are on the way down.

    • Replies:@Priss Factor
    @geezer

    Blacks beat up whites in schools, stations, buses, trains. In 'street sports', blacks dominate others.

    And in high schools, it doesn't take too many blacks to take over the sports. If a high school is 10% black, they will dominate much of the popular sports. It means white guys will be reduced to benchwarmers and fan cucks, and white girls will go with black athletes. At least in the past, pop culture didn't promote that, but that's all pop culture does with music, advertising, and tv shows.

  • @anonymous
    If you don't quickly build a new political party to address all this anomie, the jews will just continue to press forward until everyone gets burnt out. Why can't you see we suffer the same fate as the Wiemar republic, imposed on us by the very same psychopaths? WTF are you waiting for???

    Replies: @inspector general

    Such a party would have to be controlled by Jews to have any chance whatsoever to claim legitimacy. That sums up the situation, IMHO.

    Contemplate the paradox before proceeding any further.

  • anonymous[383] • Disclaimer says:

    If you don’t quickly build a new political party to address all this anomie, the jews will just continue to press forward until everyone gets burnt out. Why can’t you see we suffer the same fate as the Wiemar republic, imposed on us by the very same psychopaths? WTF are you waiting for???

    • Replies:@inspector general
    @anonymous

    Such a party would have to be controlled by Jews to have any chance whatsoever to claim legitimacy. That sums up the situation, IMHO.

    Contemplate the paradox before proceeding any further.

  • @Thomasina
    "Trump couldn’t win either way, Jews couldn’t lose either way." Why? Because Jews own the media.

    "Why do Americans...care NOTHING about Palestinians?" Because Jews own the media.

    "The reason why whites feel a special thing for blacks..." Because Jews own the media.

    Jews and Blacks are both predators, Jews just being the more intelligent predator. Jews, because they own the media, have painted both themselves and Blacks as the ultimate victims, exactly what sociopaths/psychopaths like to do. They lack honor, fear and empathy. They will cheat, lie, steal and kill.

    A grievance (victimhood) will be held as long as it promises you some reward. It doesn't have to have anything to do with reality. It's just that if it gives someone an advantage, they'll hold the grudge. It's game, a hustle.

    So Whites are squeezed between two predators, two tribes who see themselves separate and distinct from White America. Jews are using Blacks to maintain power, and Blacks have been basking in a fake-adoration, courtesy of the Jewish media.

    Whites are trusting, they believed their government. They do have empathy and honor (most of them). They must do, otherwise the Jews would not have been so successful.

    Whites want to be seen as "nice". They're too caught up in what other people think of them. This is a mistake as you're only seeing yourself through someone else's eyes. Whites must see these two pseudo-victim groups for what they are: predators. Once seen in this light, they can develop healthy boundaries, fight back, and regain respect.

    I see this happening right now. Whites are waking up. That's why the Jews are clamping down hard; they're afraid. More and more people are waking up all over the Internet and they're angry.

    Always beware of people who habitually paint themselves as VICTIMS because, in reality, they are predators in sheep's clothing.

    Replies: @Twin Ruler

    Whites wont last for much longer!

  • They are trying to ram Critical Race Theory (CRT) into schools (although it is being increasingly rejected). Its aim is to teach Blacks and Browns that the only reason they’re behind is because of “White Privilege”. It uses words such as “oppressor” and “oppressed”.

    Let me tell you about my White Privilege. I spent more hours around the kitchen table helping my kids with their homework than their teachers did teaching them. It was hard work, but I didn’t mind doing it if it helped my children. I didn’t care if they were the top of the class; I just didn’t want them to be at the bottom. This is what Black and Brown parents don’t want to do. It’s easier to just blame others, to play the VICTIM again.

    On White Privilege:

    “It’s not privilege. It’s cultural heritage. If someone feels uncomfortable because I’m White, they sure picked a funny place to live. What you claim as privilege would vanish in an instant if I moved to Japan, Saudi Arabia or Africa. In-group preference and cultural heritage are not privilege.”

    White culture has been systematically crippled by the sexual revolution, the pill, the porn industry, the Immigration Act, multiculturalism, by Jews wresting control of the media/Hollywood/academia, by blaming White men for all ills, feminism gone wild (the roots of feminism were good), LGBTQ gone wild, forced busing and desegregation, the coddling welfare state, etc.

    But White culture is not dead. It’s just lying dormant. Whites need to put their “niceness” aside, see the enemy clearly, become warriors and take back their country.

  • “Trump couldn’t win either way, Jews couldn’t lose either way.” Why? Because Jews own the media.

    “Why do Americans…care NOTHING about Palestinians?” Because Jews own the media.

    “The reason why whites feel a special thing for blacks…” Because Jews own the media.

    Jews and Blacks are both predators, Jews just being the more intelligent predator. Jews, because they own the media, have painted both themselves and Blacks as the ultimate victims, exactly what sociopaths/psychopaths like to do. They lack honor, fear and empathy. They will cheat, lie, steal and kill.

    A grievance (victimhood) will be held as long as it promises you some reward. It doesn’t have to have anything to do with reality. It’s just that if it gives someone an advantage, they’ll hold the grudge. It’s game, a hustle.

    So Whites are squeezed between two predators, two tribes who see themselves separate and distinct from White America. Jews are using Blacks to maintain power, and Blacks have been basking in a fake-adoration, courtesy of the Jewish media.

    Whites are trusting, they believed their government. They do have empathy and honor (most of them). They must do, otherwise the Jews would not have been so successful.

    Whites want to be seen as “nice”. They’re too caught up in what other people think of them. This is a mistake as you’re only seeing yourself through someone else’s eyes. Whites must see these two pseudo-victim groups for what they are: predators. Once seen in this light, they can develop healthy boundaries, fight back, and regain respect.

    I see this happening right now. Whites are waking up. That’s why the Jews are clamping down hard; they’re afraid. More and more people are waking up all over the Internet and they’re angry.

    Always beware of people who habitually paint themselves as VICTIMS because, in reality, they are predators in sheep’s clothing.

    • Replies:@Twin Ruler
    @Thomasina

    Whites wont last for much longer!

  • jungfreud’s coming articles:

    1. hawaii five o: how sexist zionist infiltrated and corrupted american legal system and terrorized the christians.

    2. the a team: the narratology of zionist terrorism and the pogrom of american christians.

  • Russia and China are in the news lately for obvious reasons. During the Cold War, Russia, as the core of the Soviet Union, posed the greatest challenge to US hegemony(or the greatest threat to the Free World, depending on one's perspective). And China, though backward, represented leadership in the Third World's challenge to both US...
  • The Derek Chauvin case in Minneapolis is a pawn in a much larger power struggle, and in a way, Chauvin is in trouble because even Donald Trump and white populists have succumbed to the same gods controlled by the Jews. When Jews control the gods and when Jews dole out the money(to all the whores,...
  • The Chinese Great Proletarian Revolution was frenzy, but it was in no way crazy. There were many lynch mobs arising all the time, but there were no Floyds being glorified : whenever those kind of street monkeys (there were many in China) came to be known to the public, they were shot and their family had to pay for the bullet. The Cultural Revolution glorified workers and suspected all non-menial workers to be parasites : the main target of the Cultural revolution were cultural marxists actually. The American phenomenon, on BOTH sides of the political divide, attacks workers first and foremost while setting street delinquents, cult leaders, eternal students in useless studies and shady businessmen as moral examples. The people that animated the cultural revolution were all against the American Liberal Democrats first and foremost, they felt somewhat more in tune, if only as adverse negotiators, with culturally conservative Republicans.

  • Communism is both radical and conservative in spirit, hardly surprising as it's a deeply moralistic ideology that developed in reaction to the revolutionary upheavals of capitalism. Remember that Karl Marx himself recognized capitalism as the most transformative system developed by mankind. It was most extreme and 'radical' in changing all forms of human relations and...
  • @Commentator Mike
    @Marcali

    That would simply imply what the population would be if the trend in population growth continued as previously and not how many people were actually killed. The negative blips are mostly due to people killed and who died of whatever cause and they hardly add up to what you mentioned.

    Replies: @Marcali

    The verticals between the trend line and the actual population line would show the missing lives for whatever reason.
    Since the Communists always said that they were responsible for anything that happens in a communist country, even the drop in the birth rate would be their responsibility.

  • @Marcali
    @Commentator Mike

    Why don't you continue the trend line that has the first break in it, marking the beginning of WW 1 at 1914?

    Replies: @Commentator Mike

    That would simply imply what the population would be if the trend in population growth continued as previously and not how many people were actually killed. The negative blips are mostly due to people killed and who died of whatever cause and they hardly add up to what you mentioned.

    • Replies:@Marcali
    @Commentator Mike

    The verticals between the trend line and the actual population line would show the missing lives for whatever reason.
    Since the Communists always said that they were responsible for anything that happens in a communist country, even the drop in the birth rate would be their responsibility.

  • @Commentator Mike
    @Marcali

    I am not convinced. Here's an illustration of Russia's population since 1897.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Russia_population_1897-2010.png/800px-Russia_population_1897-2010.png?20110219194228

    Other than WWII and the Civil War there have been no major drops in population numbers, and perhaps a couple of million during a year of hunger. If anything it is capitalism which is killing off the Russians as made clear at the top of the graph.

    Replies: @Marcali

    Why don’t you continue the trend line that has the first break in it, marking the beginning of WW 1 at 1914?

    • Replies:@Commentator Mike
    @Marcali

    That would simply imply what the population would be if the trend in population growth continued as previously and not how many people were actually killed. The negative blips are mostly due to people killed and who died of whatever cause and they hardly add up to what you mentioned.

    Replies: @Marcali

  • @Anymike
    @Marcali

    On further review, the correct term would be "cumulative". "Rolled" as you use it to stand in for "cumulative" is jargon or a slang term, at least in this context.

    The 61,000,000 killed figure might not be accurate. Adult men of productive years undoubtedly would have to represent some large proportion of that number. If the Soviet regime killed off that many of the inherently most productive group within society, how did the regime build up industry, fight and win massive a war and then compete with the United States in world power for the next four decades?

    There may be an answer, but we need to know what it is.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Marcali

    „Bolshevism cannot escape responsibility for the establishment of a dictatorship instilled with hatred for the individual. As a result of its criminal actions, more than sixty million people were exterminated. Bolshevism, as a species and forerunner of fascism, made itself the principal force in the genocide of its own people.”
    (Alexander N. Yakovlev: a Century of Violence in Soviet Russia, Yale University Press, 2002, p.237.)

    Now Yakovlev was a high ranking soviet functionary, one of the highest ranking.

  • @Hulkamania
    @Anymike

    Most of these "X billion people died from communism!" claims all come from CIA propaganda like "Black Book of Communism." They have no relation to reality.

    Replies: @Marcali

    So the USA is wallowing in the crimes of its Holy Ally. Remarkable observation.

  • The Derek Chauvin case in Minneapolis is a pawn in a much larger power struggle, and in a way, Chauvin is in trouble because even Donald Trump and white populists have succumbed to the same gods controlled by the Jews. When Jews control the gods and when Jews dole out the money(to all the whores,...
  • what an empire of lie!
    make such parallels so conveniently simply because such kind of projections about China and Mao have been made in decades.
    build up new lies, based on old lies, and sounds all concrete, amazing!!!

  • @antibeast
    @mulga mumblebrain

    I have to give it to the Western propagandists in that they’re so good at inventing ‘fake history’ by rewriting the past. They had to weave a tangled web of half-truths and outright lies, blended together so no one notices the contradictions in their pseudo-historical narrative which gets confirmed in their own echo chamber. Repeated over time, those echoes become accepted not as an article of faith but as a matter of fact as if a Big Lie repeated long enough becomes truth. You can see this process clearly in how Hirohito has been ‘sanitized’ by the Ministry of Truth, so much so that Hirohito’s ‘sainthood’ has become accepted as historical fact in the so-called ‘Collective West’.

    Replies: @mulga mumblebrain

    It’s easy when the MSM is a sewer of vicious liars. NO presstitute in Austfailia would dare to outline the truth of Russia’s position re. the fascist Ukronazi regime, the truth of MH17, the truth about Israel, the truth of US aggression, the truth of Lockerbie, the truth regarding Xinjiang etc, etc, because it would not be published and they would be unemployable. No wonder the curs, particularly the feminazi bitches, turned on Assange, a truth-teller, which such uniform viciousness. Not so much the Big Lie but Universal Lies.

  • Exactly my point Bhai. Communist elites enjoy life while majority live like slaves.

    The ordinary Indians today are very, very lucky indeed. Their standard of living is so much better than that of the ordinary Chinese! I have learnt from Indian posters on the web that all those supposed progress (e.g. HS trains, brand new cities, etc) in China is nothing but commie propaganda. 🙂

  • @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Mehool Mehta

    Mehool Bhai, the PLA commander of the Sino-Indian War Luo Ruiqing 罗瑞卿 was purged during the Cultural Revolution.

    On March 18, 1966, Luo attempted suicide by jumping off a building but failed. He was put into a basket and carried for more struggle sessions.

    Liu Shaoqi commented: "Actually, suicide requires some skill, it should have been head first, but he landed feet first, his feet were broken, and his head was not injured."

    Deng Xiaoping: "Just like a female diving athlete, jumped like a popsicle".

    Ye Jianying composed an impromptu poem: "The general's reputation is shattered in one jump";

    Mao only said: "What a loser."

    https://i.postimg.cc/PqnYNqYJ/Fe-Sx-Yli-Uc-AAp52s.jpg

    To be fair, Mao’s military strategy, political theory, commentaries on history, poetry, calligraphy, alone qualified him as a literati,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Contradiction
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Protracted_War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_of_Mao_Zedong
    https://en.thevalue.com/articles/mao-zedong-letter-sothebys-auction

    Mao also made the most of the lifestyle of an emperor, this is implicitly encouraged in Chinese culture,

    https://i.postimg.cc/JnZ1013r/main-qimg-a6b1edb4f6e042e425125256332bc543-lq.jpg

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @Mehool Mehta, @Mehool Mehta

    Kingdom Bhai,
    The cursed Luo died on August 3, 1978, while in West Germany for medical treatment. How he go to Germany for medical treatment? How many common people in Chin could go to Germany for medical treatment? And why he go to West Germany and not Communist East Germany?
    Bhai, Communism is Communist elite enjoying good life while majority of people live like the gulams (slaves). Communism is Gulami, it is slavery.

    Mao also made the most of the lifestyle of an emperor, this is implicitly encouraged in Chinese culture,

    Exactly my point Bhai. Communist elites enjoy life while majority live like slaves. Even Nehru was doing such dirty things because even he was Communist thug mind as well he was English thief type. He did not have Indian-Bharatiya mind. One who thinks like Muslim, like English, like Marxwadi, he can never be a true Indian, he is lost to dirty foreign thinking, not the great thinking of our ancient sages.
    Compared to that, our Modiji not do such dirty things as this is not part of our ancient Bharatiya culture. Modiji gave his life as pracharak for RSS. He sacrificed his life for welfare of nation and now he takes us to new heights.

    Take care Bhai.
    Mehool Bhai.

  • @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Mehool Mehta

    Mehool Bhai, the PLA commander of the Sino-Indian War Luo Ruiqing 罗瑞卿 was purged during the Cultural Revolution.

    On March 18, 1966, Luo attempted suicide by jumping off a building but failed. He was put into a basket and carried for more struggle sessions.

    Liu Shaoqi commented: "Actually, suicide requires some skill, it should have been head first, but he landed feet first, his feet were broken, and his head was not injured."

    Deng Xiaoping: "Just like a female diving athlete, jumped like a popsicle".

    Ye Jianying composed an impromptu poem: "The general's reputation is shattered in one jump";

    Mao only said: "What a loser."

    https://i.postimg.cc/PqnYNqYJ/Fe-Sx-Yli-Uc-AAp52s.jpg

    To be fair, Mao’s military strategy, political theory, commentaries on history, poetry, calligraphy, alone qualified him as a literati,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Contradiction
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Protracted_War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_of_Mao_Zedong
    https://en.thevalue.com/articles/mao-zedong-letter-sothebys-auction

    Mao also made the most of the lifestyle of an emperor, this is implicitly encouraged in Chinese culture,

    https://i.postimg.cc/JnZ1013r/main-qimg-a6b1edb4f6e042e425125256332bc543-lq.jpg

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @Mehool Mehta, @Mehool Mehta

    Thanks Kingdom Bhai

    Luo attempted suicide by jumping off a building but failed

    Hahaha Karma. Attack India and then face karma. Bhai, Communism is like mafia. Just like Amrika. In Communism there is always power struggle in between mafia.

  • Mao’s letter to Zhou En-Lai on Dec 27, 1966 which showed his position about Cultural Revolution:

    “恩来同志:最近,不少来京革命师生和革命群众来信问我,给走资本主义道路的当权派和牛鬼蛇神戴高帽子、打花脸、游街是否算武斗?我认为:这种作法应该算是武斗的一种形式。这种作法不好。这种作法达不到教育人民的目的。这里我强调一下,在斗争中一定要坚持文斗,不用武斗,因为武斗只能触及人的身体,不能触及人的灵魂。只有坚持文斗,不用武斗,摆事实,讲道理,以理服人,才能斗出水平来,才能真正达到教育人民的目的。应该分析,武斗绝大多数是少数别有用心的资产阶级反动分子挑动起来的,他们有意破坏党的政策,破坏无产阶级文化大革命,降低党的威信。凡是动手打人的,应该依法处之。

      请转告来京革命师生和革命群众。”

    Google translate:

    “Comrade Enlai: Recently, many revolutionary teachers and students and revolutionary masses who have come to Beijing have written to me asking me whether wearing high hats, punching their faces, and parading the streets of the establishment who take the capitalist road is considered martial combat. I think this practice should be regarded as a form of armed combat. This is not good. This practice does not serve the purpose of educating the people. Here I would like to emphasize that in the struggle, we must persist in literary fighting and do not use armed combat, because armed fighting can only touch people’s bodies, not people’s souls. Only by persisting in fighting with literature, not using armed combat, laying out facts, reasoning, and convincing people with reason can we fight to the level and truly achieve the goal of educating the people. It should be analyzed that the overwhelming majority of armed struggle was instigated by a small number of bourgeois reactionaries with ulterior motives, who deliberately sabotaged the Party’s policies, undermined the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, and lowered the Party’s prestige.Anyone who beats someone with his hands should be punished according to law.

    Please convey to the revolutionary teachers and students and the revolutionary masses who have come to Beijing”

    — My bolded text
    https://www.marxists.org/chinese/maozedong/1968/5-235.htm

  • @mulga mumblebrain
    @antibeast

    The Western powers that be and the Western MSM sewer ONLY lie about China. It's part racist and cultural supremacism, and, lately, as China's rise went hyperbolic, sheer fucking terror and '...rage at the dying of the White'. It's quite common for deranged, hate-crazed, Western simpletons to accuse Mao, plainly the greatest figure of the 20th century, of 'killing' one hundred million. ANY number will do.

    Replies: @antibeast

    I have to give it to the Western propagandists in that they’re so good at inventing ‘fake history’ by rewriting the past. They had to weave a tangled web of half-truths and outright lies, blended together so no one notices the contradictions in their pseudo-historical narrative which gets confirmed in their own echo chamber. Repeated over time, those echoes become accepted not as an article of faith but as a matter of fact as if a Big Lie repeated long enough becomes truth. You can see this process clearly in how Hirohito has been ‘sanitized’ by the Ministry of Truth, so much so that Hirohito’s ‘sainthood’ has become accepted as historical fact in the so-called ‘Collective West’.

    • Replies:@mulga mumblebrain
    @antibeast

    It's easy when the MSM is a sewer of vicious liars. NO presstitute in Austfailia would dare to outline the truth of Russia's position re. the fascist Ukronazi regime, the truth of MH17, the truth about Israel, the truth of US aggression, the truth of Lockerbie, the truth regarding Xinjiang etc, etc, because it would not be published and they would be unemployable. No wonder the curs, particularly the feminazi bitches, turned on Assange, a truth-teller, which such uniform viciousness. Not so much the Big Lie but Universal Lies.

  • @lloyd
    @Godfree Roberts

    From my ten years experience of mainland Chinese and marriage, the mainland Chinese are impervious to a rational argument. You can argue with them until you are blue in the face with no affect. The hive mind completely rules them. They don't appear to register with logic. John Derbyshire has thrown out hints about that. Then suddenly, they will again collectively see the light and do the right thing without ever acknowledging they were wrong. The folly of the white man has been to assume when any other group is given the same education as him, he will think the same logic. With some groups maybe, but certainly not mainland Chinese, and of course not white women most of the time. European Communism and fascism worked logically in their own reality and it took foreign invasions to end them. Seen in that light, the mainland Chinese have acted in Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution and Covid exactly to their nature. As regards Cultural Marxism. It is not Cultural Marxism. Apart from deviant and fringe Charles Reich, the original Cultural Marxists were morally conservative. Herbert Marcuse never advocated a society run by homos and trannies. The thought would not have crossed his mind. The so called Cultural Marxists are Frankists who are exploiting the jungle nature of unemployable ghetto blacks, illiterate and childish College kids, and deranged sexual deviants. America in its present state is beyond Constitutional repair

    Replies: @lloyd, @antibeast, @OrangeSmoke, @katzenellenbogen, @mulga mumblebrain

    A loathsome racist and misogynist. This place certainly attracts the detritus of humanity. Pig ignorant, too, as usual.

  • @antibeast
    @dogbumbreath

    But Mao came out the winner against the Yanks who tried everything they could to stop him from building China’s first A-bomb under his ‘Two Bombs and One Satellite’ projects which coincided with the Great Leap Forward. Unlike Stalin, Mao didn’t do stuff likeDekulakization which led to the Holodomor or banish people to Soviet-style Gulags. Western propagandists are so desperate to demonize Mao that they equate Mao’s ‘backyard furnaces’ with Hitler’s ‘gas chambers’ which is utter nonsense. They didn’t even bother to fact-check their innuendos against Mao who stepped down as China’s Head of State in December 1958, just one year into the Great Leap Forward (GLF) which was run by Liu from 1959 when he took over as China’s Head of State to 1961 when he ended the GLF. Since Mao was no longer running the GLF during the worst years of the famine, then how can the West blame him for those famine deaths? Even the ‘excess deaths’ attributed to the GLF are hardly credible, as Utsa Patnaik writes:



    Thirty million or three crores is not a small figure. When one million people died in Britain’s colony, Ireland, in 1846-47, the world knew about it. When three million people died in the 1943-44 Bengal famine, the fact that a famine occurred was known. Yet 30 million people are supposed to have died in China without anyone knowing at that time that a famine took place. The reason no one knew about it is simple, for a massive famine did not take place at all. The intellectuals who quote the massive famine deaths figure of 30 million today are no doubt outstandingly clever in the small,im kleinen, but are proving themselves to be rather foolish,im grossen, in the large. A person has to be very foolhardy indeed to say that 30 million people died in a famine without anyone including the foreign diplomats in China and the China-watchers abroad having the slightest inkling of it. And those who credulously believe this claim and uncritically repeat it show an even greater folly than the originators of the claim.

     

    The West has a beef with Mao. But where’s the beef?

    https://youtu.be/U80ebi4AKgs

    Replies: @Trinity, @Priss Factor, @mulga mumblebrain

    The Western powers that be and the Western MSM sewer ONLY lie about China. It’s part racist and cultural supremacism, and, lately, as China’s rise went hyperbolic, sheer fucking terror and ‘…rage at the dying of the White’. It’s quite common for deranged, hate-crazed, Western simpletons to accuse Mao, plainly the greatest figure of the 20th century, of ‘killing’ one hundred million. ANY number will do.

    • Replies:@antibeast
    @mulga mumblebrain

    I have to give it to the Western propagandists in that they’re so good at inventing ‘fake history’ by rewriting the past. They had to weave a tangled web of half-truths and outright lies, blended together so no one notices the contradictions in their pseudo-historical narrative which gets confirmed in their own echo chamber. Repeated over time, those echoes become accepted not as an article of faith but as a matter of fact as if a Big Lie repeated long enough becomes truth. You can see this process clearly in how Hirohito has been ‘sanitized’ by the Ministry of Truth, so much so that Hirohito’s ‘sainthood’ has become accepted as historical fact in the so-called ‘Collective West’.

    Replies: @mulga mumblebrain

  • @Priss Factor
    @antibeast


    The West has a beef with Mao. But where’s the beef?
     
    In China, you ask 'where pok?'

    Replies: @antibeast

    In China, you ask ‘where pok?’

    In China, there’s a saying — “Kill the chicken to scare the monkey!” (殺雞儆猴) — which is exactly what happened during the Cultural Revolution. As for the so-called ‘Great Leap Forward’, that was a ‘red herring’ intended by Mao to divert attention away from his secretive “Two Bombs and One Satellite” program which is equivalent to two Manhattan and one Sputnik projects, all started during the GLF. Of course, Westoids like you don’t know about the “Two Bombs and One Satellite” program because Western propagandists only focus on the GLF, specifically his notorious ‘backyard furnaces’ which serves as a meme to ‘demonize’ Mao, as some kind of metaphor alluding to the ‘gas chambers’ of Auschwitz. And to make Mao look like a monster worse than Hitler, the Western propagandists (which includes their paid-for Chinese collaborators) had to fabricate ‘fake stats’ and invent pseudo-historical narratives about the GLF without even bothering to verify their lurid claims against historical facts. What comes out is a tangled web of deceitful half-truths and outright falsehoods which became more bizarre as time went by. As Shakespeare puts it: “Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive”.

  • @katzenellenbogen
    @lloyd

    Charles Reich? You mean Wilhelm Reich, don't You?

    Replies: @lloyd

    Yes I did mean Wilhelm. The Cultural Marxists had interesting insightful things to say until they got into their mostly depraved ideology. Intellectual Jews and women tend to be like that. Charles Reich was an American Jewish professor whose book The Greening of America saw redemption in early 1970s hedonistic College students. Koestler pooh poohed him as not at all original but the book was a best seller. Time magazine reviewer called it the Fourth Reich.

  • @lloyd
    @Godfree Roberts

    From my ten years experience of mainland Chinese and marriage, the mainland Chinese are impervious to a rational argument. You can argue with them until you are blue in the face with no affect. The hive mind completely rules them. They don't appear to register with logic. John Derbyshire has thrown out hints about that. Then suddenly, they will again collectively see the light and do the right thing without ever acknowledging they were wrong. The folly of the white man has been to assume when any other group is given the same education as him, he will think the same logic. With some groups maybe, but certainly not mainland Chinese, and of course not white women most of the time. European Communism and fascism worked logically in their own reality and it took foreign invasions to end them. Seen in that light, the mainland Chinese have acted in Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution and Covid exactly to their nature. As regards Cultural Marxism. It is not Cultural Marxism. Apart from deviant and fringe Charles Reich, the original Cultural Marxists were morally conservative. Herbert Marcuse never advocated a society run by homos and trannies. The thought would not have crossed his mind. The so called Cultural Marxists are Frankists who are exploiting the jungle nature of unemployable ghetto blacks, illiterate and childish College kids, and deranged sexual deviants. America in its present state is beyond Constitutional repair

    Replies: @lloyd, @antibeast, @OrangeSmoke, @katzenellenbogen, @mulga mumblebrain

    Charles Reich? You mean Wilhelm Reich, don’t You?

    • Replies:@lloyd
    @katzenellenbogen

    Yes I did mean Wilhelm. The Cultural Marxists had interesting insightful things to say until they got into their mostly depraved ideology. Intellectual Jews and women tend to be like that. Charles Reich was an American Jewish professor whose book The Greening of America saw redemption in early 1970s hedonistic College students. Koestler pooh poohed him as not at all original but the book was a best seller. Time magazine reviewer called it the Fourth Reich.

  • @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Mehool Mehta

    Mehool Bhai, the PLA commander of the Sino-Indian War Luo Ruiqing 罗瑞卿 was purged during the Cultural Revolution.

    On March 18, 1966, Luo attempted suicide by jumping off a building but failed. He was put into a basket and carried for more struggle sessions.

    Liu Shaoqi commented: "Actually, suicide requires some skill, it should have been head first, but he landed feet first, his feet were broken, and his head was not injured."

    Deng Xiaoping: "Just like a female diving athlete, jumped like a popsicle".

    Ye Jianying composed an impromptu poem: "The general's reputation is shattered in one jump";

    Mao only said: "What a loser."

    https://i.postimg.cc/PqnYNqYJ/Fe-Sx-Yli-Uc-AAp52s.jpg

    To be fair, Mao’s military strategy, political theory, commentaries on history, poetry, calligraphy, alone qualified him as a literati,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Contradiction
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Protracted_War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_of_Mao_Zedong
    https://en.thevalue.com/articles/mao-zedong-letter-sothebys-auction

    Mao also made the most of the lifestyle of an emperor, this is implicitly encouraged in Chinese culture,

    https://i.postimg.cc/JnZ1013r/main-qimg-a6b1edb4f6e042e425125256332bc543-lq.jpg

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @Mehool Mehta, @Mehool Mehta

    Revolution devour its wong

  • @Mehool Mehta
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms Bhai, Meow Tze Tung did not give crap about the millions dying in the famines. Meow was squeezing out grain from Chinese farmers and exported food to Eastern European Communist regimes (even when his Chinese people were dying) to get weapons and nuclear technology. He did not mind that millions of people died of starvation. Indeed even before the Great Leap backwards, Charman Meow cold calculated that millions of Chinese may die, he did not care, he wanted global power to dominate world, technology and weapons above all. For his projects to take off, half of China may have to die, Meow did not care. Meow was jealous of the Soviet Union and wanted to overtake Rus as well as Bartania and Amrika at any cost.

    Kingdoms Bhai, please watch this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CdUhpCOlwo
    Utopia, Mao and the Empress Dowager Cixi – An SWF 2013 Lecture by Jung Chang
    Check from 6:50 to 12:00

    She found from years of research. She experience Cultural Revolution personally in China.
    —–Mehool Bhai from the India.

    Replies: @Deep Thought, @Priss Factor, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Mehool Bhai, the PLA commander of the Sino-Indian War Luo Ruiqing 罗瑞卿 was purged during the Cultural Revolution.

    On March 18, 1966, Luo attempted suicide by jumping off a building but failed. He was put into a basket and carried for more struggle sessions.

    Liu Shaoqi commented: “Actually, suicide requires some skill, it should have been head first, but he landed feet first, his feet were broken, and his head was not injured.”

    Deng Xiaoping: “Just like a female diving athlete, jumped like a popsicle”.

    Ye Jianying composed an impromptu poem: “The general’s reputation is shattered in one jump”;

    Mao only said: “What a loser.”

    To be fair, Mao’s military strategy, political theory, commentaries on history, poetry, calligraphy, alone qualified him as a literati,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Contradiction
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Protracted_War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_of_Mao_Zedong
    https://en.thevalue.com/articles/mao-zedong-letter-sothebys-auction

    Mao also made the most of the lifestyle of an emperor, this is implicitly encouraged in Chinese culture,

    • Replies:@Priss Factor
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Revolution devour its wong

    ,@Mehool Mehta
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Thanks Kingdom Bhai


    Luo attempted suicide by jumping off a building but failed
     
    Hahaha Karma. Attack India and then face karma. Bhai, Communism is like mafia. Just like Amrika. In Communism there is always power struggle in between mafia.
    ,@Mehool Mehta
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Kingdom Bhai,
    The cursed Luo died on August 3, 1978, while in West Germany for medical treatment. How he go to Germany for medical treatment? How many common people in Chin could go to Germany for medical treatment? And why he go to West Germany and not Communist East Germany?
    Bhai, Communism is Communist elite enjoying good life while majority of people live like the gulams (slaves). Communism is Gulami, it is slavery.


    Mao also made the most of the lifestyle of an emperor, this is implicitly encouraged in Chinese culture,
     
    Exactly my point Bhai. Communist elites enjoy life while majority live like slaves. Even Nehru was doing such dirty things because even he was Communist thug mind as well he was English thief type. He did not have Indian-Bharatiya mind. One who thinks like Muslim, like English, like Marxwadi, he can never be a true Indian, he is lost to dirty foreign thinking, not the great thinking of our ancient sages.
    Compared to that, our Modiji not do such dirty things as this is not part of our ancient Bharatiya culture. Modiji gave his life as pracharak for RSS. He sacrificed his life for welfare of nation and now he takes us to new heights.

    Take care Bhai.
    Mehool Bhai.
  • @antibeast
    @dogbumbreath

    But Mao came out the winner against the Yanks who tried everything they could to stop him from building China’s first A-bomb under his ‘Two Bombs and One Satellite’ projects which coincided with the Great Leap Forward. Unlike Stalin, Mao didn’t do stuff likeDekulakization which led to the Holodomor or banish people to Soviet-style Gulags. Western propagandists are so desperate to demonize Mao that they equate Mao’s ‘backyard furnaces’ with Hitler’s ‘gas chambers’ which is utter nonsense. They didn’t even bother to fact-check their innuendos against Mao who stepped down as China’s Head of State in December 1958, just one year into the Great Leap Forward (GLF) which was run by Liu from 1959 when he took over as China’s Head of State to 1961 when he ended the GLF. Since Mao was no longer running the GLF during the worst years of the famine, then how can the West blame him for those famine deaths? Even the ‘excess deaths’ attributed to the GLF are hardly credible, as Utsa Patnaik writes:



    Thirty million or three crores is not a small figure. When one million people died in Britain’s colony, Ireland, in 1846-47, the world knew about it. When three million people died in the 1943-44 Bengal famine, the fact that a famine occurred was known. Yet 30 million people are supposed to have died in China without anyone knowing at that time that a famine took place. The reason no one knew about it is simple, for a massive famine did not take place at all. The intellectuals who quote the massive famine deaths figure of 30 million today are no doubt outstandingly clever in the small,im kleinen, but are proving themselves to be rather foolish,im grossen, in the large. A person has to be very foolhardy indeed to say that 30 million people died in a famine without anyone including the foreign diplomats in China and the China-watchers abroad having the slightest inkling of it. And those who credulously believe this claim and uncritically repeat it show an even greater folly than the originators of the claim.

     

    The West has a beef with Mao. But where’s the beef?

    https://youtu.be/U80ebi4AKgs

    Replies: @Trinity, @Priss Factor, @mulga mumblebrain

    The West has a beef with Mao. But where’s the beef?

    In China, you ask ‘where pok?’

    • Replies:@antibeast
    @Priss Factor

    In China, you ask ‘where pok?’


     

    In China, there’s a saying — “Kill the chicken to scare the monkey!” (殺雞儆猴) — which is exactly what happened during the Cultural Revolution. As for the so-called ‘Great Leap Forward’, that was a ‘red herring’ intended by Mao to divert attention away from his secretive “Two Bombs and One Satellite” program which is equivalent to two Manhattan and one Sputnik projects, all started during the GLF. Of course, Westoids like you don’t know about the “Two Bombs and One Satellite” program because Western propagandists only focus on the GLF, specifically his notorious ‘backyard furnaces’ which serves as a meme to ‘demonize’ Mao, as some kind of metaphor alluding to the ‘gas chambers’ of Auschwitz. And to make Mao look like a monster worse than Hitler, the Western propagandists (which includes their paid-for Chinese collaborators) had to fabricate ‘fake stats’ and invent pseudo-historical narratives about the GLF without even bothering to verify their lurid claims against historical facts. What comes out is a tangled web of deceitful half-truths and outright falsehoods which became more bizarre as time went by. As Shakespeare puts it: “Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive”.
  • @Godfree Roberts
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    16 years after the Communists took power nothing had changed in the lives of the peasants. Dismayed by urbanites and Party officials living privileged lives, Mao initiated the Cultural Revolution to emancipate 400,000,000 voiceless peasants whose social status had not changed in 3,000 years and remained unchanged. He succeeded. Throughout the CR's ten years, Mao drove inequality to the lowest level ever recorded while growing the economy six percent annually–twice America’s rate–and mechanizing agriculture. By the end, rural literacy was taken for granted and rural people (no longer ‘peasants’) were as intolerant of oppression and corruption, as vocal about their priorities, as enthusiastic about voting, and as eager to voice complaints as their urban cousins. For the first time in history they were full citizens who could point to the infrastructure they built, the agricultural advances they had made, and the problems they had solved.

    Xi's father, Liu and Peng were treated identically.
    None was tortured.
    All lived far longer than the life expectancy at the time.
    All wanted to keep the peasants enslaved until the Revolution was secure, but Mao knew this meant another 4,000 years of slavery, so sidelined them.
    A small price to pay for the emancipation of 400,000,000 people.

    Replies: @迪路

    You don’t really need to talk about China with Japanese. The Japanese don’t even acknowledge the massacres they did, and hypocritical races like the Japanese can only exist as sex slaves for the Americans.

  • @antibeast
    @dogbumbreath

    But Mao came out the winner against the Yanks who tried everything they could to stop him from building China’s first A-bomb under his ‘Two Bombs and One Satellite’ projects which coincided with the Great Leap Forward. Unlike Stalin, Mao didn’t do stuff likeDekulakization which led to the Holodomor or banish people to Soviet-style Gulags. Western propagandists are so desperate to demonize Mao that they equate Mao’s ‘backyard furnaces’ with Hitler’s ‘gas chambers’ which is utter nonsense. They didn’t even bother to fact-check their innuendos against Mao who stepped down as China’s Head of State in December 1958, just one year into the Great Leap Forward (GLF) which was run by Liu from 1959 when he took over as China’s Head of State to 1961 when he ended the GLF. Since Mao was no longer running the GLF during the worst years of the famine, then how can the West blame him for those famine deaths? Even the ‘excess deaths’ attributed to the GLF are hardly credible, as Utsa Patnaik writes:



    Thirty million or three crores is not a small figure. When one million people died in Britain’s colony, Ireland, in 1846-47, the world knew about it. When three million people died in the 1943-44 Bengal famine, the fact that a famine occurred was known. Yet 30 million people are supposed to have died in China without anyone knowing at that time that a famine took place. The reason no one knew about it is simple, for a massive famine did not take place at all. The intellectuals who quote the massive famine deaths figure of 30 million today are no doubt outstandingly clever in the small,im kleinen, but are proving themselves to be rather foolish,im grossen, in the large. A person has to be very foolhardy indeed to say that 30 million people died in a famine without anyone including the foreign diplomats in China and the China-watchers abroad having the slightest inkling of it. And those who credulously believe this claim and uncritically repeat it show an even greater folly than the originators of the claim.

     

    The West has a beef with Mao. But where’s the beef?

    https://youtu.be/U80ebi4AKgs

    Replies: @Trinity, @Priss Factor, @mulga mumblebrain

    Wendy’s no longer has the beef and a fast food hamburger meal cost almost as much as a sit down restaurant meal. In Jew world you have FAKE egg shortages which effects a long list of products that use eggs. Wendy’s ( no matter which one you happen upon) has become one the slowest fast food burger chains out there. Thanks, Jews, the Kangz of Shit.

  • It’s safe to say that there is more to this situation than meets the eye. There is in fact more to the human condition than can be codified by law or interpreted by faith. The ancients called it Fate, some today call it destiny; maybe it’s just human imagination in overdrive, but the idea is appealing that the “karma” accumulated from a lifetime of evil deeds may have indeed attracted evil to itself in the case of George Floyd, in the form of a homicidal police officer. Net loss to society might be reckoned pretty much as zero. Neither of these dangerous men will ever hurt another innocent citizen. In a perfect world, perhaps, both might have lived to see the hurtfulness of their ways and to seek atonement, but that world is not the planet we inhabit.

    That Mr. Floyd has become the hero of a so-called justice movement only strikes me as yet more evidence of how tightly the narrative is being controlled in our time on behalf of those who profit most from maintaining an unjust status quo. Throughout history, the two great tools of tyranny are distraction and division. We are free to argue among ourselves to our hearts’ content, call one another vulgar names, carry silly protest signs, raise up makeshift memorials or tear down ancient statues. But are we not able to have laws passed and enforced that acknowledge and remedy the fundamental problem of our time, the unprecedented acquisition of vast wealth and influence by a tiny cabal of power-addicted men.

  • @Priss Factor
    @Mehool Mehta

    Mao was a monster but Jung Chang is a nutter. She's bitter about the Cultural Revolution but her mentality hasn't changed one bit. In the past, Mao was 100% good, now he's 100% evil.

    Her revisionist view of Cixi aka dowager empress has some validity but goes too far. It seems Jung Chang can't understand anything except total good vs total bad. So, she makes the empress out to be totally good against the official narrative.

    Whatever the case, the fact remains China lagged Japan way behind in modernization, and even though she did take some necessary steps, they weren't enough.

    Replies: @Mehool Mehta, @Mehool Mehta

    More Priss Bhai about monster.

    The excess mortality associated with the famine has been estimated by former CCP officials and international experts, with most giving a number in the range of 15–55 million deaths. According to historian Mobo Gao, those who are anti-Communist want to stretch the death toll number as high as possible, whereas those who are sympathetic to the Chinese Revolution would like to see the numbers as low as possible. Some specific estimates include the following (ranging from lowest to highest):

    Yang Songlin (杨松林), researcher at the Development Research Center of the State Council in Henan, estimated that roughly 2.6–4 million people died during the famine years.
    Sun Jingxian (孙经先), scholar in applied mathematics and professor at Shandong University, concluded an estimate of 3.66 million “anomalous deaths” during the famine years.
    Utsa Patnaik, an Indian Marxian economist, estimated that 11 million deaths were caused due to the famine.
    Daniel Houser, Barbara Sands and Erte Xiao writing in the Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization estimated that China suffered 14.8 million excess deaths during the famine. About 69% of the deaths (or 10.3 million) seem attributable to effects stemming from national policies.
    In 1989, a research team of the Chinese Academy of Sciences concluded that at least 15 million people died of malnutrition.
    Shujie Yao (姚书杰), chair of economics at the Business School of Middlesex University, concluded that 18 million people perished due to the famine.
    Li Chengrui (李成瑞), former Minister of the National Bureau of Statistics of China, estimated 22 million deaths (1998). His estimate was based on the 27 million deaths[8][35] estimated by Ansley J. Coale, and the 17 million deaths estimated by Jiang Zhenghua (蒋正华).
    Peng Xizhe (彭希哲), Professor of Population and Development at Fudan University, estimated 23 million excess deaths during the famine.
    Cao Shuji (曹树基), Distinguished Professor at Shanghai Jiao Tong University, estimated 32.5 million.
    Yang Jisheng, senior journalist from Xinhua News Agency, concluded there were 36 million deaths due to starvation, while another 40 million others failed to be born, so that “China’s total population loss during the Great Famine then comes to 76 million.”
    Mao Yushi, a Chinese economist and winner of the 2012 Milton Friedman Prize for Advancing Liberty, put the death toll at 36 million.
    Liao Gailong (廖盖隆), former Vice Director of the History Research Unit of the CCP, reported 40 million “unnatural” deaths due to the famine.
    Chen Yizi (陈一谘), a former senior Chinese official and a top advisor to former CCP General Secretary Zhao Ziyang, concluded that 43 million people died due to the famine.
    Frank Dikötter, Chair Professor of Humanities at the University of Hong Kong and the author of Mao’s Great Famine, estimated that at least 45 million people died from starvation, overwork and state violence during the Great Leap Forward, claiming his findings to be based on access to recently opened local and provincial party archives. His study also stressed that state violence exacerbated the death toll. Dikötter claimed that at least 2.5 million of the victims were beaten or tortured to death. Dikötter provides a graphic example of what happened to a family after one member was caught stealing some food:
    Liu Desheng, guilty of poaching a sweet potato, was covered in urine … He, his wife, and his son were also forced into a heap of excrement. Then tongs were used to prise his mouth open after he refused to swallow excrement. He died three weeks later.

    Yu Xiguang (余习广), an independent Chinese historian and a former instructor at the Central Party School of the Chinese Communist Party, estimated that 55 million people died due to the famine. His conclusion was based on two decades of archival research.

    Lu Baoguo, a Xinhua reporter based in Xinyang, explained to Yang Jisheng why he never reported on his experience:

    In the second half of 1959, I took a long-distance bus from Xinyang to Luoshan and Gushi.Out of the window, I saw one corpse after another in the ditches. On the bus, no one dared to mention the dead. In one county, Guangshan, one-third of the people had died. Although there were dead people everywhere, the local leaders enjoyed good meals and fine liquor. … I had seen people who had told the truth being destroyed. Did I dare to write it?

    Yu Dehong, the secretary of a party official in Xinyang in 1959 and 1960, stated:

    I went to one village and saw 100 corpses, then another village and another 100 corpses. No one paid attention to them. People said that dogs were eating the bodies. Not true, I said. The dogs had long ago been eaten by the people.

    There are widespread oral reports, though no official documentation, ofhuman cannibalism being practiced in various forms as a result of the famine. To survive, people had to resort to every possible means, from eating soil and poisons to stealing and killing and even to eating human flesh. Due to the scale of the famine, some have speculated that the resulting cannibalism could be described as “on a scale unprecedented in the history of the 20th century”

  • @Priss Factor
    @Mehool Mehta

    Mao was a monster but Jung Chang is a nutter. She's bitter about the Cultural Revolution but her mentality hasn't changed one bit. In the past, Mao was 100% good, now he's 100% evil.

    Her revisionist view of Cixi aka dowager empress has some validity but goes too far. It seems Jung Chang can't understand anything except total good vs total bad. So, she makes the empress out to be totally good against the official narrative.

    Whatever the case, the fact remains China lagged Japan way behind in modernization, and even though she did take some necessary steps, they weren't enough.

    Replies: @Mehool Mehta, @Mehool Mehta

    Priss Bhai, yes monster. I not know much about the Cixi.
    He mass murder people.
    Zhao Ziyang, former General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, once said that “our Party never admitted mistakes. If things got really bad, we just found some scapegoats and blamed them, like Lin Biao and the Gang of Four. If scapegoats were hard to find, we simply blamed natural disasters, such as for the great famine in the late 1950s and early 1960s when tens of millions of people died, which was simply due to political errors of the Party.”
    Bo Yibo, one of the Eight Elders and former Vice Premier of the People’s Republic of China, once said, “During the three difficult years, people across the country went into malnutrition due to lack of food, and edema was prevalent, resulting in an increasing number of deaths due to starvation among many rural areas. It is estimated that in 1960 alone, more than 10 million people died. With such thing happening during a time of peace, we as members of the Communist Party feel truly guilty in front of the people, and we must never forget this heavy lesson! ”
    Wan Li, former President of the National People’s Congressof China, stated that “during the three difficult years after the People’s Commune movement, people everywhere had edema and even starved to death.In Anhui alone, according to reports, there were 3-4 million people died ‘abnormally’ …… We had been ‘ left ‘ for too long, and farmers were no longer motivated to work.”
    Tian Jiyun, former Vice Premier of Chinaand former Vice President of the National People’s Congress of China, stated that “looking back at the Three Years of Difficulty,people everywhere had edema and died of starvation, and tens of millions of people died abnormally, more than the total death toll during the entire Democratic Revolution. What was the reason for that? Liu Shaoqi said it was ‘30% natural disasters and 70% human error.’ But it is now clear that the famine was mainly due to human error, which was the erroneous command, the ‘Utopian Socialism’, and the ‘Left opportunism’.”

  • @xyzxy
    I skimmed the article; it's impossible for me to take it whole because the author is really all over the place. He (or she?) really needs an editor, if they cannot better organize it themself. The disorganization leads me to believe that the author is a woman?

    A major difference between the CR and what is going down in the West is that the Chinese situation was internally directed (that is, by indigenous Chinese), albeit directed by way of chaos. The chief purpose was both simple and transparent, to consolidate Mao's power against a rivalpoliticalfaction, using traditional culture as an ideological vehicle.

    It was cultural in that its ostensible basis was tradition--it was political because it was directed against those going against 'Mao Thought'. TheCriticize Lin (Biao), Criticize Confucius campaign encapsulated the CR's dual approach.

    What the CR was not, and this is important to understand when comparing it to current Western oriented 'Cultural Marxism', was that it was not an attempt to replace indigenous Chinese with an alien people, and totally destroy the Chinese nation. In fact, the country was mostly closed off to foreign influence at the time. Certainly the idea of a Comintern style internationalism had been abandoned, as China previously turned away from the Soviet Union, before the start of the CR (after Khrushchev's 'secret speech').

    Interestingly, once Mao left the scene, the Jiang Qing clique, principally responsible for the chaos, was rather quickly rounded up and sent to prison. Serious men with a forward looking view took the reigns. And since that episode Mao styled political thinking has been warned off. One can point to the Bo Xilai incident (and his 'Chongqing Model' of politics) as an example.

    Since that episode, women have been relegated to subordinate (mostly low level) positions. One can point to Gu Kalai and her imprisonment, as the Party's warning against Jiang Qing style subterfuge.

    Not only that, but traditional Chinese culture is making an important comeback. However, to be clear, this latter situation markedly contrasts with much of the 'popular' media (ie, television shows) which center around 'strong women' acting 'independently'. Chinese censors should look closely at that sort of didactic propaganda, and recognize it not so much for what it is, but what it could become.

    Replies: @Zachary Smith, @Reverend Goody

    Pot calling the kettle…..your response is all over the place.

  • @dogbumbreath
    @antibeast


    Revisiting Alleged 30 Million Famine Deaths during China’s Great Leap
    By Utsa Patnaik (Posted Jun 26, 2011)
     
    If one digs a little deeper into the "winners version" of History, you find giant leaps of faith and conclusions based on deceptive data or no data (dogma). Two examples jump out:

    1) Westernclaims of Uyghur Genocide:
    https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-genocide-relied-on-fraudulent-far-right-researcher/

    2) Medical Science:
    https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/science-vs-dogma:4

    Replies: @antibeast

    But Mao came out the winner against the Yanks who tried everything they could to stop him from building China’s first A-bomb under his ‘Two Bombs and One Satellite’ projects which coincided with the Great Leap Forward. Unlike Stalin, Mao didn’t do stuff likeDekulakization which led to the Holodomor or banish people to Soviet-style Gulags. Western propagandists are so desperate to demonize Mao that they equate Mao’s ‘backyard furnaces’ with Hitler’s ‘gas chambers’ which is utter nonsense. They didn’t even bother to fact-check their innuendos against Mao who stepped down as China’s Head of State in December 1958, just one year into the Great Leap Forward (GLF) which was run by Liu from 1959 when he took over as China’s Head of State to 1961 when he ended the GLF. Since Mao was no longer running the GLF during the worst years of the famine, then how can the West blame him for those famine deaths? Even the ‘excess deaths’ attributed to the GLF are hardly credible, as Utsa Patnaik writes:

    Thirty million or three crores is not a small figure. When one million people died in Britain’s colony, Ireland, in 1846-47, the world knew about it. When three million people died in the 1943-44 Bengal famine, the fact that a famine occurred was known. Yet 30 million people are supposed to have died in China without anyone knowing at that time that a famine took place. The reason no one knew about it is simple, for a massive famine did not take place at all. The intellectuals who quote the massive famine deaths figure of 30 million today are no doubt outstandingly clever in the small,im kleinen, but are proving themselves to be rather foolish,im grossen, in the large. A person has to be very foolhardy indeed to say that 30 million people died in a famine without anyone including the foreign diplomats in China and the China-watchers abroad having the slightest inkling of it. And those who credulously believe this claim and uncritically repeat it show an even greater folly than the originators of the claim.

    The West has a beef with Mao. But where’s the beef?


    Video Link

    • Replies:@Trinity
    @antibeast

    Wendy's no longer has the beef and a fast food hamburger meal cost almost as much as a sit down restaurant meal. In Jew world you have FAKE egg shortages which effects a long list of products that use eggs. Wendy's ( no matter which one you happen upon) has become one the slowest fast food burger chains out there. Thanks, Jews, the Kangz of Shit.

    ,@Priss Factor
    @antibeast


    The West has a beef with Mao. But where’s the beef?
     
    In China, you ask 'where pok?'

    Replies: @antibeast

    ,@mulga mumblebrain
    @antibeast

    The Western powers that be and the Western MSM sewer ONLY lie about China. It's part racist and cultural supremacism, and, lately, as China's rise went hyperbolic, sheer fucking terror and '...rage at the dying of the White'. It's quite common for deranged, hate-crazed, Western simpletons to accuse Mao, plainly the greatest figure of the 20th century, of 'killing' one hundred million. ANY number will do.

    Replies: @antibeast

  • @Malla
    @Malla

    Interestingly this Black Doctor rips apart Critical Race theory.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m66rcHzWaPU
    Watch Black Father Blast Critical Race Theory At Board Meeting In Viral Video

    Replies: @Priss Factor

    Is he into afro-colonization of white wombs? He’s no better.

  • @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Godfree Roberts

    https://i.postimg.cc/y8zJ0CtC/1200x1200.jpg


    During his detention, Peng wrote his last letter to Mao Zedong on January 1, 1967. In the letter, he briefly introduced the process of his detention and said, "I salute you for the last time! I wish you a long and healthy life!” This letter was sent to Zhou Enlai from the guardianship point, and after he read it at the meeting of the Central Committee, he sent the letter to Mao Zedong, Lin Biao and Jiang Qing for reading. Mao Zedong saw Peng’s letter in Zhongnanhai, picked up a black pencil, and drew an irregular circle on the letter without any comments.

    With the support of Kang Sheng and Chen Boda, on July 9, 1967, Han Aijing forced Peng Dehuai to confess and beat him, claiming that at the "struggle session" wanted to "see the red with a bayonet", and asked Peng to explain "why did you write an opposition letter at the Lushan Conference against 'three sides Red Flag'?" "Why do you oppose Chairman Mao?" Peng was "knocked down" seven times, his forehead was injured and bleeding, his fifth and tenth ribs were broken, and Li Zhongqi slapped Peng Dehuai in public. [64][65]

     

    https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/彭德怀#文革身死

    https://i.postimg.cc/htZtpJtx/image.jpg

    In early 1968, Liu was still in solitary confinement in Fuluju, Zhongnanhai [6]:984. Liu's mental and living conditions continued to deteriorate. Since 1968, he had successively suffered from pneumonia, diabetes, hypertension, autonomic disorders, etc., and his condition worsened after March [6]:984.

    In October 1969, Mao Zedong estimated that the international situation might suddenly deteriorate according to the world dynamics at that time, so he decided to take a large-scale national war preparation operation [6]: 985. The CPC Central Committee decided to evacuate Liu

    Due to bumps and colds on the way, Liu's condition continued to worsen after he arrived in Kaifeng[6]:985.

    At midnight on November 13, when registering the "cremation application form", the task force falsely used Liu Yuan's name to apply[98], and filled in the "name of the deceased" as "Liu Weihuang"[6]: 986, and the occupation as "unemployed". Liu's body was falsely claimed to be that of a patient with a severe infectious disease [6]: 986. On November 14, Liu's body was secretly cremated on the spot at the Eastern Suburb Crematorium in Kaifeng City [99]: 17. The ashes were packed in an ordinary wooden box and stored in the ashes storage room of Kaifeng Crematorium[6]:986.
     
    https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/刘少奇#病重去世

    Replies: @Mehool Mehta, @Godfree Roberts

    16 years after the Communists took power nothing had changed in the lives of the peasants. Dismayed by urbanites and Party officials living privileged lives, Mao initiated the Cultural Revolution to emancipate 400,000,000 voiceless peasants whose social status had not changed in 3,000 years and remained unchanged. He succeeded. Throughout the CR’s ten years, Mao drove inequality to the lowest level ever recorded while growing the economy six percent annually–twice America’s rate–and mechanizing agriculture. By the end, rural literacy was taken for granted and rural people (no longer ‘peasants’) were as intolerant of oppression and corruption, as vocal about their priorities, as enthusiastic about voting, and as eager to voice complaints as their urban cousins. For the first time in history they were full citizens who could point to the infrastructure they built, the agricultural advances they had made, and the problems they had solved.

    Xi’s father, Liu and Peng were treated identically.
    None was tortured.
    All lived far longer than the life expectancy at the time.
    All wanted to keep the peasants enslaved until the Revolution was secure, but Mao knew this meant another 4,000 years of slavery, so sidelined them.
    A small price to pay for the emancipation of 400,000,000 people.

    • Agree:mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies:@迪路
    @Godfree Roberts

    You don't really need to talk about China with Japanese. The Japanese don't even acknowledge the massacres they did, and hypocritical races like the Japanese can only exist as sex slaves for the Americans.

  • @Mehool Mehta
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms Bhai, Meow Tze Tung did not give crap about the millions dying in the famines. Meow was squeezing out grain from Chinese farmers and exported food to Eastern European Communist regimes (even when his Chinese people were dying) to get weapons and nuclear technology. He did not mind that millions of people died of starvation. Indeed even before the Great Leap backwards, Charman Meow cold calculated that millions of Chinese may die, he did not care, he wanted global power to dominate world, technology and weapons above all. For his projects to take off, half of China may have to die, Meow did not care. Meow was jealous of the Soviet Union and wanted to overtake Rus as well as Bartania and Amrika at any cost.

    Kingdoms Bhai, please watch this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CdUhpCOlwo
    Utopia, Mao and the Empress Dowager Cixi – An SWF 2013 Lecture by Jung Chang
    Check from 6:50 to 12:00

    She found from years of research. She experience Cultural Revolution personally in China.
    —–Mehool Bhai from the India.

    Replies: @Deep Thought, @Priss Factor, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Mao was a monster but Jung Chang is a nutter. She’s bitter about the Cultural Revolution but her mentality hasn’t changed one bit. In the past, Mao was 100% good, now he’s 100% evil.

    Her revisionist view of Cixi aka dowager empress has some validity but goes too far. It seems Jung Chang can’t understand anything except total good vs total bad. So, she makes the empress out to be totally good against the official narrative.

    Whatever the case, the fact remains China lagged Japan way behind in modernization, and even though she did take some necessary steps, they weren’t enough.

    • Replies:@Mehool Mehta
    @Priss Factor

    Priss Bhai, yes monster. I not know much about the Cixi.
    He mass murder people.
    Zhao Ziyang, former General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, once said that "our Party never admitted mistakes. If things got really bad, we just found some scapegoats and blamed them, like Lin Biao and the Gang of Four. If scapegoats were hard to find, we simply blamed natural disasters, such as for the great famine in the late 1950s and early 1960s when tens of millions of people died, which was simply due to political errors of the Party."
    Bo Yibo, one of the Eight Elders and former Vice Premier of the People's Republic of China, once said, "During the three difficult years, people across the country went into malnutrition due to lack of food, and edema was prevalent, resulting in an increasing number of deaths due to starvation among many rural areas. It is estimated that in 1960 alone, more than 10 million people died. With such thing happening during a time of peace, we as members of the Communist Party feel truly guilty in front of the people, and we must never forget this heavy lesson! "
    Wan Li, former President of the National People's Congressof China, stated that "during the three difficult years after the People's Commune movement, people everywhere had edema and even starved to death.In Anhui alone, according to reports, there were 3-4 million people died 'abnormally' ...... We had been ' left ' for too long, and farmers were no longer motivated to work."
    Tian Jiyun, former Vice Premier of Chinaand former Vice President of the National People's Congress of China, stated that "looking back at the Three Years of Difficulty,people everywhere had edema and died of starvation, and tens of millions of people died abnormally, more than the total death toll during the entire Democratic Revolution. What was the reason for that? Liu Shaoqi said it was '30% natural disasters and 70% human error.' But it is now clear that the famine was mainly due to human error, which was the erroneous command, the 'Utopian Socialism', and the 'Left opportunism'."

    ,@Mehool Mehta
    @Priss Factor

    More Priss Bhai about monster.

    The excess mortality associated with the famine has been estimated by former CCP officials and international experts, with most giving a number in the range of 15–55 million deaths. According to historian Mobo Gao, those who are anti-Communist want to stretch the death toll number as high as possible, whereas those who are sympathetic to the Chinese Revolution would like to see the numbers as low as possible. Some specific estimates include the following (ranging from lowest to highest):

    Yang Songlin (杨松林), researcher at the Development Research Center of the State Council in Henan, estimated that roughly 2.6–4 million people died during the famine years.
    Sun Jingxian (孙经先), scholar in applied mathematics and professor at Shandong University, concluded an estimate of 3.66 million "anomalous deaths" during the famine years.
    Utsa Patnaik, an Indian Marxian economist, estimated that 11 million deaths were caused due to the famine.
    Daniel Houser, Barbara Sands and Erte Xiao writing in the Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization estimated that China suffered 14.8 million excess deaths during the famine. About 69% of the deaths (or 10.3 million) seem attributable to effects stemming from national policies.
    In 1989, a research team of the Chinese Academy of Sciences concluded that at least 15 million people died of malnutrition.
    Shujie Yao (姚书杰), chair of economics at the Business School of Middlesex University, concluded that 18 million people perished due to the famine.
    Li Chengrui (李成瑞), former Minister of the National Bureau of Statistics of China, estimated 22 million deaths (1998). His estimate was based on the 27 million deaths[8][35] estimated by Ansley J. Coale, and the 17 million deaths estimated by Jiang Zhenghua (蒋正华).
    Peng Xizhe (彭希哲), Professor of Population and Development at Fudan University, estimated 23 million excess deaths during the famine.
    Cao Shuji (曹树基), Distinguished Professor at Shanghai Jiao Tong University, estimated 32.5 million.
    Yang Jisheng, senior journalist from Xinhua News Agency, concluded there were 36 million deaths due to starvation, while another 40 million others failed to be born, so that "China's total population loss during the Great Famine then comes to 76 million."
    Mao Yushi, a Chinese economist and winner of the 2012 Milton Friedman Prize for Advancing Liberty, put the death toll at 36 million.
    Liao Gailong (廖盖隆), former Vice Director of the History Research Unit of the CCP, reported 40 million "unnatural" deaths due to the famine.
    Chen Yizi (陈一谘), a former senior Chinese official and a top advisor to former CCP General Secretary Zhao Ziyang, concluded that 43 million people died due to the famine.
    Frank Dikötter, Chair Professor of Humanities at the University of Hong Kong and the author of Mao's Great Famine, estimated that at least 45 million people died from starvation, overwork and state violence during the Great Leap Forward, claiming his findings to be based on access to recently opened local and provincial party archives. His study also stressed that state violence exacerbated the death toll. Dikötter claimed that at least 2.5 million of the victims were beaten or tortured to death. Dikötter provides a graphic example of what happened to a family after one member was caught stealing some food:
    Liu Desheng, guilty of poaching a sweet potato, was covered in urine ... He, his wife, and his son were also forced into a heap of excrement. Then tongs were used to prise his mouth open after he refused to swallow excrement. He died three weeks later.

    Yu Xiguang (余习广), an independent Chinese historian and a former instructor at the Central Party School of the Chinese Communist Party, estimated that 55 million people died due to the famine. His conclusion was based on two decades of archival research.

    Lu Baoguo, a Xinhua reporter based in Xinyang, explained to Yang Jisheng why he never reported on his experience:

    In the second half of 1959, I took a long-distance bus from Xinyang to Luoshan and Gushi.Out of the window, I saw one corpse after another in the ditches. On the bus, no one dared to mention the dead. In one county, Guangshan, one-third of the people had died. Although there were dead people everywhere, the local leaders enjoyed good meals and fine liquor. ... I had seen people who had told the truth being destroyed. Did I dare to write it?

    Yu Dehong, the secretary of a party official in Xinyang in 1959 and 1960, stated:

    I went to one village and saw 100 corpses, then another village and another 100 corpses. No one paid attention to them. People said that dogs were eating the bodies. Not true, I said. The dogs had long ago been eaten by the people.

    There are widespread oral reports, though no official documentation, ofhuman cannibalism being practiced in various forms as a result of the famine. To survive, people had to resort to every possible means, from eating soil and poisons to stealing and killing and even to eating human flesh. Due to the scale of the famine, some have speculated that the resulting cannibalism could be described as "on a scale unprecedented in the history of the 20th century"

  • @antibeast
    @Deep Thought



    This is the best example of projection I have seen. It comes about because some Indians want to divert attention from the fact that millions of Indians– especially children– die of malnutrition.

     

    The best rebuttal I have seen of the anti-Mao ‘demonization’ campaign launched by the West since the 1980s is this article by Utsa Patnaik, a Marxist economist based in India, excerpts below:

    https://mronline.org/2011/06/26/revisiting-alleged-30-million-famine-deaths-during-chinas-great-leap/

    Revisiting Alleged 30 Million Famine Deaths during China’s Great Leap
    By Utsa Patnaik (Posted Jun 26, 2011)

    Thirty years ago, a highly successful vilification campaign was launched against Mao Zedong, saying that a massive famine in which 27 to 30 million people died in China took place during the Great Leap period, 1958 to 1961, which marked the formation of the people’s communes under his leadership. The main basis of this assertion was, first, the population deficit in China during 1958 to 1961 and, second, the work of two North American demographers, A J Coale (Rapid Population Change in China 1952-1982, 1982) and Judith Banister (China’s Changing Population, 1987). No one bothered to look at the highly dubious method through which these demographers had arrived at their apocalyptic figures.

    The ‘estimate’ was later widely publicised by Amartya K Sen, who built an entire theory saying that democratic freedom, especially press freedom, in India meant that famine was avoided while its absence in China explains why the world did not know that such a massive famine had taken place until as much as a quarter century later when the North American demographers painstakingly uncovered it.

    The capitalist press was happy to reciprocate the compliment by repeatedly writing of “30 million famine deaths,” to the extent that a fiction was established as historical fact in readers’ minds. The London Economist had a special issue on China some years ago, which repeated the allegation of 30 million deaths in three separate articles and refused to publish the Letter to the Editor this author sent contradicting the claim. More recently, in his Introduction to the book Mao Zedong on Practice and Contradiction, which he edited and published in 2006, Slavoj Zizek also mentioned the figure of 30 millions as though it were a given fact. Well-known intellectuals have to be taken seriously and the claim examined.

    There are two routes through which very large ‘famine deaths’ have been claimed — firstly, population deficit and, secondly, imputing births and deaths which did not actually take place. Looking at China’s official population data from its 1953 and 1964 censuses, we see that if the rate of population increase up to 1958 had been maintained, the population should have been 27 million higher over the period of 1959-1961 than it actually was. This population deficit is also discussed by the demographers Pravin Visaria and Leela Visaria. The population deficit was widely equated with ‘famine deaths.’ But 18 million of the people alleged to have died in a famine were not born in the first place. The decline in the birth rate from 29 in 1958 to 18 in 1961 is being counted as famine deaths. The Chinese are a highly talented people, but they have not learnt the art of dying without being born.

    There is a basic responsibility that everyone, and more particularly academics, has to be clear and precise about. To say or write that “27 million people died in the famine in China” conveys to the reader that people who were actually present and alive starved to death. But this did not actually happen and the statement that it did is false.

    China had lowered it death rate sharply from 20 to 12 per thousand between 1953 and 1958. (India did not reach the latter level until over a quarter century later.) After the radical land reforms and the formation of rural cooperatives, there were mass campaigns to clean up the environment and do away with disease bearing pests while a basic rural health care system was put in place. That a dramatic reduction in the rural death rate was achieved is not disputed by anyone. During the early commune formation from 1958, there was a massive mobilisation of peasants for a stupendous construction effort, which completely altered for a few years the normal patterns of peasant family life. Women were drawn into the workforce, communal kitchens were established and children looked after in crèches as most of the able-bodied population moved to irrigation and other work sites during the slack season. We find a graphic description of this period of mass mobilisation in Wiliam Hinton’s Shenfan. When this author spent three weeks in China in 1983, visiting several communes — which still existed at that time — she was told every time that “we built our water conservation system during the Great Leap.” The birth rate fall from 1959 had to do with labour mobilisation, and not low nutrition since the 1958 foodgrain output was exceptionally good at 200 million tons (mt).

    There was excess mortality compared to the 1958 level over the next three years, of a much smaller order. Let us be clear on the basic facts about what did happen: there was a run of three years of bad harvests in China — drought in some parts, floods in others, and pest attacks. Foodgrain output fell from the 1958 good harvest of 200 mt to 170 mt in 1959 and further to 143.5 mt in 1960, with 1961 registering a small recovery to 147 million tons. This was a one-third decline, larger than the one-quarter decline India saw during its mid-1960s drought and food crisis. Grain output drop coincided in time with the formation of the communes, and this lent itself to a fallacious causal link being argued by the academics who were inclined to do so, and they blamed the commune formation for the output decline. One can much more plausibly argue precisely the opposite — that without the egalitarian distribution that the communes practised, the impact on people of the output decline, which arose for independent reasons and would have taken place anyway, would have been far worse. Further, without the 46,000 reservoirs built with collective labour on the communes up to 1980, the effects of later droughts would have been very severe. Recovery to the 200 million ton level took place only by 1965. Throughout, however, the per capita foodgrain output in China even during the worst year, 1960, remained substantially above that in India.

    As output declined from 1959, there was a rise in the officially measured death rate from 12 in 1958 to 14.6 in 1959, followed by a sharp rise in 1960 to 25.4 per thousand, falling the next year to 14.2 and further to 10 in 1962. While, clearly, 1960 was an abnormal year with about 8 million deaths in excess of the 1958 level, note that this peak official ‘famine’ death rate of 25.4 per thousand in China was little different from India’s 24.8 death rate in the same year which was considered quite normal and attracted no criticism. If we take the remarkably low death rate of 12 per thousand that China had achieved by 1958 as the benchmark, and calculate the deaths in excess of this over the period 1959 to 1961, it totals 11.5 million. This is the maximal estimate of possible ‘famine deaths.’ Even this order of excess deaths is puzzling given the egalitarian distribution in China, since its average grain output per head was considerably above India’s level even in the worst year, and India saw no generalised famine in the mid-1960s.

    Relative to China’s population, this figure of plausible excess mortality is low and it did not satisfy the academics in northern universities who have been always strongly opposed to socialised production. Coale’s and Banister’s estimates gave them the ammunition they were looking for to attack the communes. How exactly do Coale and Banister reach a figure of ‘famine deaths’ which is three times higher than the maximal plausible estimate? Examining carefully how they arrived at 30 million ‘famine deaths’ estimate, we find that the figure was manufactured by using indefensible assumptions and has had no scholarly basis.

    In the 1982 census, there was a survey on fertility covering one million persons or a mere 0.1 per cent sample of the population, who were asked about births and deaths from the early 1950s onwards. The very high total fertility rate obtained from this 1982 survey is used by them to say that millions more were actually born between the two census years, 1953 and 1964, than were officially recorded. They ignore the birth rate of 37 per thousand derived from a very much larger 1953 sample which had covered five per cent of all households and was specially designed to collect the information on births and deaths used in the official estimates. Instead, they impute birth rates of 43 to 44 per thousand to the 1950s, using the 1982 survey. There is no justification for such an arbitrary procedure of using a much later reported high fertility rate for a long distant past. We know that a distant recall period makes responses inaccurate. These imputed extra births between 1953 and 1964 total a massive 50 million but according to them did not increase by an iota the 1964 population total, 694.6 million, the official figure which they assume as correct. Thus, although all official birth and death rates are rejected by them, the official population totals are accepted. This opportunistic assumption is clearly necessary for their purpose because it allows them to assert that the same number of extra people died between 1953 and 1964, as the extra people they claim were born.

    But the demographers are still not satisfied with the 50 million extra births and deaths that they have conjured up. Fitting a linear time trend to the falling death rate of the early fifties is done to say that deaths should have continued to decline steeply after 1958 and, since it did not, the difference from the trend meant additional ‘famine deaths.’ Such straight-line trend fitting is a senseless procedure since the death rate necessarily shows non-linear behaviour. It cannot continue falling at the same steep rate; it has to flatten out and cannot reach zero in any population — not even the inimitable Chinese people could hope to become immortal. The final estimate of extra deaths in both authors is raised thereby to a massive 60 million, a heroic 65 per cent higher than the official total of deaths over the inter-censal period.

    Having created these 60 million extra deaths at their own sweet will out of nothing, the authors then proceed to allocate them over the years 1953 to 1964, arbitrarily attributing a higher portion to the great leap years in particular. The arbitrariness is clear from the variation in their own manipulations of the figures. Coale’s allocation raises his peak death rate in 1960 to 38.8 per thousand while Banister is bolder and raises it to 44.6 compared to the official 25.4 for that year, and 30 million ‘famine deaths’ are claimed over the Great Leap years after all this smart legerdemain. Having violated every tenet of reason, these ‘academics’ may as well have allocated all their imaginary deaths to the Great Leap years and claimed that 60 million died — why hang themselves only for a lamb rather than for a sheep! Seldom have we seen basic norms of academic probity and honesty being more blatantly violated, than in this travesty of statistical ‘estimates.’ And seldom have noted intellectuals, who might have been expected to show more common sense, shown instead more credulous naïveté and irresponsibility, by accepting without investigation and propagating such nonsensical ‘estimates,’ giving them the status of historical fact. In the process, they have libelled and continue to libel Mao Zedong, a great patriot and revolutionary. They have unwittingly confirmed the principle attributed to Goebbels — that a lie has to be a really big lie and be endlessly repeated; then it is bound to be believed.

    Thirty million or three crores is not a small figure. When one million people died in Britain’s colony, Ireland, in 1846-47, the world knew about it. When three million people died in the 1943-44 Bengal famine, the fact that a famine occurred was known. Yet 30 million people are supposed to have died in China without anyone knowing at that time that a famine took place. The reason no one knew about it is simple, for a massive famine did not take place at all. The intellectuals who quote the massive famine deaths figure of 30 million today are no doubt outstandingly clever in the small, im kleinen, but are proving themselves to be rather foolish im grossen, in the large. A person has to be very foolhardy indeed to say that 30 million people died in a famine without anyone including the foreign diplomats in China and the China-watchers abroad having the slightest inkling of it. And those who credulously believe this claim and uncritically repeat it show an even greater folly than the originators of the claim.

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    Revisiting Alleged 30 Million Famine Deaths during China’s Great Leap
    By Utsa Patnaik (Posted Jun 26, 2011)

    If one digs a little deeper into the “winners version” of History, you find giant leaps of faith and conclusions based on deceptive data or no data (dogma). Two examples jump out:

    1) Westernclaims of Uyghur Genocide:
    https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-genocide-relied-on-fraudulent-far-right-researcher/

    2) Medical Science:
    https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/science-vs-dogma:4

    • Replies:@antibeast
    @dogbumbreath

    But Mao came out the winner against the Yanks who tried everything they could to stop him from building China’s first A-bomb under his ‘Two Bombs and One Satellite’ projects which coincided with the Great Leap Forward. Unlike Stalin, Mao didn’t do stuff likeDekulakization which led to the Holodomor or banish people to Soviet-style Gulags. Western propagandists are so desperate to demonize Mao that they equate Mao’s ‘backyard furnaces’ with Hitler’s ‘gas chambers’ which is utter nonsense. They didn’t even bother to fact-check their innuendos against Mao who stepped down as China’s Head of State in December 1958, just one year into the Great Leap Forward (GLF) which was run by Liu from 1959 when he took over as China’s Head of State to 1961 when he ended the GLF. Since Mao was no longer running the GLF during the worst years of the famine, then how can the West blame him for those famine deaths? Even the ‘excess deaths’ attributed to the GLF are hardly credible, as Utsa Patnaik writes:



    Thirty million or three crores is not a small figure. When one million people died in Britain’s colony, Ireland, in 1846-47, the world knew about it. When three million people died in the 1943-44 Bengal famine, the fact that a famine occurred was known. Yet 30 million people are supposed to have died in China without anyone knowing at that time that a famine took place. The reason no one knew about it is simple, for a massive famine did not take place at all. The intellectuals who quote the massive famine deaths figure of 30 million today are no doubt outstandingly clever in the small,im kleinen, but are proving themselves to be rather foolish,im grossen, in the large. A person has to be very foolhardy indeed to say that 30 million people died in a famine without anyone including the foreign diplomats in China and the China-watchers abroad having the slightest inkling of it. And those who credulously believe this claim and uncritically repeat it show an even greater folly than the originators of the claim.

     

    The West has a beef with Mao. But where’s the beef?

    https://youtu.be/U80ebi4AKgs

    Replies: @Trinity, @Priss Factor, @mulga mumblebrain

  • @Shamu
    @anonymouseperson

    Well, that's an understatement.

    I think the best paragraph I've ever read by this guy with the insufferable nom de plume is the opener to this article. But the key is grasping bits full import is to know what the gods of the Jews are. The Jewsdo not worship the same God as do Christians, not even if we momentarily set aside the Christ, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity.

    Rabbinic Judaism is not just a 'heresy' within the religion of Moses but is a heresy so complete that it actually inverted most of the religion. The religion of Moses, going back to the original calling out of Abram, was to have a tribe called out from Semitic fertility cult freak shows of human sacrifice, temple prostititution, and a whole lot of sex with kids. Why was this tribe to be called out of that monstrous evil? Because when the time was full, a Messias, the Christos, would come from that tribe's lineage, and the world could be blessed with eh religion, and resulting cultures, that would put all that Satanism in action on the run permanently.

    What the Old Testament makes most clear is that the children of Israel were never very faithful to that mission as a group. Many individuals were, but they always had too deal with large numbers of their own tribe who preferrered to have fun with the fertility cult sex games and its various forms of slavery. There was endless money and much exciting sexual perversion in being a full Semite, while being a pious Hebrew was boring and often anything but money-making.

    So even before The Babylonian Captivity, the Hebrew world was filled with apostates, many of them violently sick apostates, from the religion of Mosses who retained their tribal status based on blood, on kinship. And during the Captivity, that situation became one in which the apostates came to dominate the tribe and so inverted the entire religion.

    It happened because the Babylonians killed or at least castrated and whored out virtually 100% of the priests of the Kingdom of Judah when they conquered it. That was part 1.Part 2 was the Babylonians offfered full 'citizenship' to all Jews who converted to their form of Semitic fertility cult, which would allow the growth of riches. Part 3 was that the Persians conquered the Babylonians, which meant that Jews came to see an Indo-European people up close, and they were both amazed and filled with envious dread. That hatred of European peoples has never waned, as Jews today see Iran as an ultimate enemy,. And remember, it was the Persians./Iranians who freed the Jews from their Babylonian Captivity.Yet Jews hated them.

    Persian religion at that time was a mix of rather traditional Indo-European paganism and early organized Zoroastrainism, which presented a dualistic cosmology and called all people to spend their lives opposing the evil that is everything that does nor come directly rom Ahura Mazda. Persian religious and moral thought made Jewish religious and moral thought seem anti-intellectual, even childish. And that seems to have led even devout Jews to enter totally into a concept as The Tribe equals the religion.

    And that was an inversion the actual religion, which was meant to work toward the same basic goal as Zorastrainism. That's the reason for the 3 Wise Men, who came from the East of Jerusalem and all but 100% certainly were Zoroastrains. They were expecting the Zoroastraian version of the Messias to come from the Jews.

    Persians allowed Jews to return Palestine and rebuild Jerusalem, probably for religious reasons having to do with a Messias coming in the future. But as the Jews rebuilt a statelet within the Persian Empire, they completed the total inversion of the religion off Moses into a tribal religion of a unique sort: the tribe itself was deity on earth. The Jewish race became god of its own religion. And that led to the creation of what in the New Testament is called The Oral law, which Jesus damns as Satanic. The Oral Law was the pre-codified version of the Talmud. And all Rabbinic Judaism is Talmudic.

    The actual gods of the Jews are Jewish flesh, Jewish blood, Jewish lusts.

    The openly entity that terrifies Jews is Christendom.

    Replies: @Anpn

    Can’t fathom why the “god of Moses” is clung to so fiercely.

    J-F made one point in this dog vomit: Jews define god, and that for themselves as well as for non-Jews.

    The JQ will NOT be resolved unless-untilChristians, especially the Anglo spin-offs, get their noses out of Jewry’s premier book of propaganda, the Bibull.

    Speaking of books: 8900 words is 15 pages of Robert Penn Warren’s All the King’s Men, still relevant 75 years on.

    Anyone think J-F’s jottings will have anything valuable to say in 2100?

    From p. 9:

    The end of man is knowledge but there is one thing he can’t know: he can’t know whether knowledge will save him or kill him. He will be killed, all right, but he can’t know whether he is killed because of the knowledge which he has got or because of the knowledge which he hasn’t got and which if he had it, would save him.

    For 2000 years Western culture has been run on “bible” knowledge enforced by Jews.
    Isn’t it time to question it in a radical way?

  • Communism is both radical and conservative in spirit, hardly surprising as it's a deeply moralistic ideology that developed in reaction to the revolutionary upheavals of capitalism. Remember that Karl Marx himself recognized capitalism as the most transformative system developed by mankind. It was most extreme and 'radical' in changing all forms of human relations and...
  • claims:

    Of course, they make excuses for all of the bloodshed, misery, and other results of the imposition of communism throughout history.

    And of course capitalism has createed the garden of Eden withou a drop of blood, right?

  • Every generation has its promoters of communism who argue that“communism would work if properly implemented”. Throughout the decades, I have seen many starry-eyed young people state as such.
    Of course, they make excuses for all of the bloodshed, misery, and other results of the imposition of communism throughout history.
    All fools…
    There is one thing young people should be aware of:
    communism=judaism
    judaism=communism
    …it’s all in their talmudic playbook…

  • The Derek Chauvin case in Minneapolis is a pawn in a much larger power struggle, and in a way, Chauvin is in trouble because even Donald Trump and white populists have succumbed to the same gods controlled by the Jews. When Jews control the gods and when Jews dole out the money(to all the whores,...
  • @Deep Thought
    @Mehool Mehta


    He did not mind that millions of people died of starvation. Indeed even before the Great Leap
     
    This is the best example of projection I have seen. It comes about because some Indians want to divert attention from the fact that millions of Indians-- especially children-- die of malnutrition. This is STILL happening every year:

    Infant mortality is 0.8 crore annually or 80,00,000 children die every year in our country before six months of age. This means that on an average as many as 21,917 children die every day in India.2020年9月30日

    https://www.google.com/search?q=millions+of+indian+children+die+of+malnuttrition+every+year&rlz=1C5CHFA_enHK1009HK1009&oq=millions+of+indian+children+die+of+malnuttrition+every+year&aqs=chrome..69i57.20703j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
     

    Replies: @antibeast

    This is the best example of projection I have seen. It comes about because some Indians want to divert attention from the fact that millions of Indians– especially children– die of malnutrition.

    The best rebuttal I have seen of the anti-Mao ‘demonization’ campaign launched by the West since the 1980s is this article by Utsa Patnaik, a Marxist economist based in India, excerpts below:

    https://mronline.org/2011/06/26/revisiting-alleged-30-million-famine-deaths-during-chinas-great-leap/

    Revisiting Alleged 30 Million Famine Deaths during China’s Great Leap
    By Utsa Patnaik (Posted Jun 26, 2011)

    [MORE]

    Thirty years ago, a highly successful vilification campaign was launched against Mao Zedong, saying that a massive famine in which 27 to 30 million people died in China took place during the Great Leap period, 1958 to 1961, which marked the formation of the people’s communes under his leadership. The main basis of this assertion was, first, the population deficit in China during 1958 to 1961 and, second, the work of two North American demographers, A J Coale (Rapid Population Change in China 1952-1982, 1982) and Judith Banister (China’s Changing Population, 1987). No one bothered to look at the highly dubious method through which these demographers had arrived at their apocalyptic figures.

    The ‘estimate’ was later widely publicised by Amartya K Sen, who built an entire theory saying that democratic freedom, especially press freedom, in India meant that famine was avoided while its absence in China explains why the world did not know that such a massive famine had taken place until as much as a quarter century later when the North American demographers painstakingly uncovered it.

    The capitalist press was happy to reciprocate the compliment by repeatedly writing of “30 million famine deaths,” to the extent that a fiction was established as historical fact in readers’ minds. The London Economist had a special issue on China some years ago, which repeated the allegation of 30 million deaths in three separate articles and refused to publish the Letter to the Editor this author sent contradicting the claim. More recently, in his Introduction to the book Mao Zedong on Practice and Contradiction, which he edited and published in 2006, Slavoj Zizek also mentioned the figure of 30 millions as though it were a given fact. Well-known intellectuals have to be taken seriously and the claim examined.

    There are two routes through which very large ‘famine deaths’ have been claimed — firstly, population deficit and, secondly, imputing births and deaths which did not actually take place. Looking at China’s official population data from its 1953 and 1964 censuses, we see that if the rate of population increase up to 1958 had been maintained, the population should have been 27 million higher over the period of 1959-1961 than it actually was. This population deficit is also discussed by the demographers Pravin Visaria and Leela Visaria. The population deficit was widely equated with ‘famine deaths.’ But 18 million of the people alleged to have died in a famine were not born in the first place. The decline in the birth rate from 29 in 1958 to 18 in 1961 is being counted as famine deaths. The Chinese are a highly talented people, but they have not learnt the art of dying without being born.

    There is a basic responsibility that everyone, and more particularly academics, has to be clear and precise about. To say or write that “27 million people died in the famine in China” conveys to the reader that people who were actually present and alive starved to death. But this did not actually happen and the statement that it did is false.

    China had lowered it death rate sharply from 20 to 12 per thousand between 1953 and 1958. (India did not reach the latter level until over a quarter century later.) After the radical land reforms and the formation of rural cooperatives, there were mass campaigns to clean up the environment and do away with disease bearing pests while a basic rural health care system was put in place. That a dramatic reduction in the rural death rate was achieved is not disputed by anyone. During the early commune formation from 1958, there was a massive mobilisation of peasants for a stupendous construction effort, which completely altered for a few years the normal patterns of peasant family life. Women were drawn into the workforce, communal kitchens were established and children looked after in crèches as most of the able-bodied population moved to irrigation and other work sites during the slack season. We find a graphic description of this period of mass mobilisation in Wiliam Hinton’s Shenfan. When this author spent three weeks in China in 1983, visiting several communes — which still existed at that time — she was told every time that “we built our water conservation system during the Great Leap.” The birth rate fall from 1959 had to do with labour mobilisation, and not low nutrition since the 1958 foodgrain output was exceptionally good at 200 million tons (mt).

    There was excess mortality compared to the 1958 level over the next three years, of a much smaller order. Let us be clear on the basic facts about what did happen: there was a run of three years of bad harvests in China — drought in some parts, floods in others, and pest attacks. Foodgrain output fell from the 1958 good harvest of 200 mt to 170 mt in 1959 and further to 143.5 mt in 1960, with 1961 registering a small recovery to 147 million tons. This was a one-third decline, larger than the one-quarter decline India saw during its mid-1960s drought and food crisis. Grain output drop coincided in time with the formation of the communes, and this lent itself to a fallacious causal link being argued by the academics who were inclined to do so, and they blamed the commune formation for the output decline. One can much more plausibly argue precisely the opposite — that without the egalitarian distribution that the communes practised, the impact on people of the output decline, which arose for independent reasons and would have taken place anyway, would have been far worse. Further, without the 46,000 reservoirs built with collective labour on the communes up to 1980, the effects of later droughts would have been very severe. Recovery to the 200 million ton level took place only by 1965. Throughout, however, the per capita foodgrain output in China even during the worst year, 1960, remained substantially above that in India.

    As output declined from 1959, there was a rise in the officially measured death rate from 12 in 1958 to 14.6 in 1959, followed by a sharp rise in 1960 to 25.4 per thousand, falling the next year to 14.2 and further to 10 in 1962. While, clearly, 1960 was an abnormal year with about 8 million deaths in excess of the 1958 level, note that this peak official ‘famine’ death rate of 25.4 per thousand in China was little different from India’s 24.8 death rate in the same year which was considered quite normal and attracted no criticism. If we take the remarkably low death rate of 12 per thousand that China had achieved by 1958 as the benchmark, and calculate the deaths in excess of this over the period 1959 to 1961, it totals 11.5 million. This is the maximal estimate of possible ‘famine deaths.’ Even this order of excess deaths is puzzling given the egalitarian distribution in China, since its average grain output per head was considerably above India’s level even in the worst year, and India saw no generalised famine in the mid-1960s.

    Relative to China’s population, this figure of plausible excess mortality is low and it did not satisfy the academics in northern universities who have been always strongly opposed to socialised production. Coale’s and Banister’s estimates gave them the ammunition they were looking for to attack the communes. How exactly do Coale and Banister reach a figure of ‘famine deaths’ which is three times higher than the maximal plausible estimate? Examining carefully how they arrived at 30 million ‘famine deaths’ estimate, we find that the figure was manufactured by using indefensible assumptions and has had no scholarly basis.

    In the 1982 census, there was a survey on fertility covering one million persons or a mere 0.1 per cent sample of the population, who were asked about births and deaths from the early 1950s onwards. The very high total fertility rate obtained from this 1982 survey is used by them to say that millions more were actually born between the two census years, 1953 and 1964, than were officially recorded. They ignore the birth rate of 37 per thousand derived from a very much larger 1953 sample which had covered five per cent of all households and was specially designed to collect the information on births and deaths used in the official estimates. Instead, they impute birth rates of 43 to 44 per thousand to the 1950s, using the 1982 survey. There is no justification for such an arbitrary procedure of using a much later reported high fertility rate for a long distant past. We know that a distant recall period makes responses inaccurate. These imputed extra births between 1953 and 1964 total a massive 50 million but according to them did not increase by an iota the 1964 population total, 694.6 million, the official figure which they assume as correct. Thus, although all official birth and death rates are rejected by them, the official population totals are accepted. This opportunistic assumption is clearly necessary for their purpose because it allows them to assert that the same number of extra people died between 1953 and 1964, as the extra people they claim were born.

    But the demographers are still not satisfied with the 50 million extra births and deaths that they have conjured up. Fitting a linear time trend to the falling death rate of the early fifties is done to say that deaths should have continued to decline steeply after 1958 and, since it did not, the difference from the trend meant additional ‘famine deaths.’ Such straight-line trend fitting is a senseless procedure since the death rate necessarily shows non-linear behaviour. It cannot continue falling at the same steep rate; it has to flatten out and cannot reach zero in any population — not even the inimitable Chinese people could hope to become immortal. The final estimate of extra deaths in both authors is raised thereby to a massive 60 million, a heroic 65 per cent higher than the official total of deaths over the inter-censal period.

    Having created these 60 million extra deaths at their own sweet will out of nothing, the authors then proceed to allocate them over the years 1953 to 1964, arbitrarily attributing a higher portion to the great leap years in particular. The arbitrariness is clear from the variation in their own manipulations of the figures. Coale’s allocation raises his peak death rate in 1960 to 38.8 per thousand while Banister is bolder and raises it to 44.6 compared to the official 25.4 for that year, and 30 million ‘famine deaths’ are claimed over the Great Leap years after all this smart legerdemain. Having violated every tenet of reason, these ‘academics’ may as well have allocated all their imaginary deaths to the Great Leap years and claimed that 60 million died — why hang themselves only for a lamb rather than for a sheep! Seldom have we seen basic norms of academic probity and honesty being more blatantly violated, than in this travesty of statistical ‘estimates.’ And seldom have noted intellectuals, who might have been expected to show more common sense, shown instead more credulous naïveté and irresponsibility, by accepting without investigation and propagating such nonsensical ‘estimates,’ giving them the status of historical fact. In the process, they have libelled and continue to libel Mao Zedong, a great patriot and revolutionary. They have unwittingly confirmed the principle attributed to Goebbels — that a lie has to be a really big lie and be endlessly repeated; then it is bound to be believed.

    Thirty million or three crores is not a small figure. When one million people died in Britain’s colony, Ireland, in 1846-47, the world knew about it. When three million people died in the 1943-44 Bengal famine, the fact that a famine occurred was known. Yet 30 million people are supposed to have died in China without anyone knowing at that time that a famine took place. The reason no one knew about it is simple, for a massive famine did not take place at all. The intellectuals who quote the massive famine deaths figure of 30 million today are no doubt outstandingly clever in the small, im kleinen, but are proving themselves to be rather foolish im grossen, in the large. A person has to be very foolhardy indeed to say that 30 million people died in a famine without anyone including the foreign diplomats in China and the China-watchers abroad having the slightest inkling of it. And those who credulously believe this claim and uncritically repeat it show an even greater folly than the originators of the claim.

    • Replies:@dogbumbreath
    @antibeast


    Revisiting Alleged 30 Million Famine Deaths during China’s Great Leap
    By Utsa Patnaik (Posted Jun 26, 2011)
     
    If one digs a little deeper into the "winners version" of History, you find giant leaps of faith and conclusions based on deceptive data or no data (dogma). Two examples jump out:

    1) Westernclaims of Uyghur Genocide:
    https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-genocide-relied-on-fraudulent-far-right-researcher/

    2) Medical Science:
    https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/science-vs-dogma:4

    Replies: @antibeast

  • @Liosnagcat
    @Che Guava

    I'm not correcting it as much as I'm pointing out that this rather unique idiomatic tic is one shared by Priss Factor and Jung-Freud, leading me to infer that they are one and the same.

    Replies: @Che Guava

    No shit Sherlock.

    Anyone who isn’t a n00b worked that out at the time of the first J-F article. You can also click on ‘Web site’ on any Priss post to read more if you want to. Other u-names are known to non-n00bs here,moi aussi, but who cares?

    Priss seems to spend most of most days composing rants and posting on the ‘net, if it isn’t her (or his?) job, a fortunate person to have so much free time.

  • Jung-Freud is always fun to read, no matter what the subject matter is — Jews or movies. In fact, his rambling is what makes his writing unique and interesting, like walking around leisurely in a woods not needing to get to anywhere fast, but still be provided with insightful and colorful observations along the way. I always look forward to his next article, no matter how long it may be, and it comes quite frequently. I often wonder: how does he get the energy to write so prolifically?

  • @Mehool Mehta
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms Bhai, Meow Tze Tung did not give crap about the millions dying in the famines. Meow was squeezing out grain from Chinese farmers and exported food to Eastern European Communist regimes (even when his Chinese people were dying) to get weapons and nuclear technology. He did not mind that millions of people died of starvation. Indeed even before the Great Leap backwards, Charman Meow cold calculated that millions of Chinese may die, he did not care, he wanted global power to dominate world, technology and weapons above all. For his projects to take off, half of China may have to die, Meow did not care. Meow was jealous of the Soviet Union and wanted to overtake Rus as well as Bartania and Amrika at any cost.

    Kingdoms Bhai, please watch this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CdUhpCOlwo
    Utopia, Mao and the Empress Dowager Cixi – An SWF 2013 Lecture by Jung Chang
    Check from 6:50 to 12:00

    She found from years of research. She experience Cultural Revolution personally in China.
    —–Mehool Bhai from the India.

    Replies: @Deep Thought, @Priss Factor, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    He did not mind that millions of people died of starvation. Indeed even before the Great Leap

    This is the best example of projection I have seen. It comes about because some Indians want to divert attention from the fact that millions of Indians– especially children– die of malnutrition. This is STILL happening every year:

    Infant mortality is 0.8 crore annually or 80,00,000 children die every year in our country before six months of age. This means that on an average as many as 21,917 children die every day in India.2020年9月30日

    https://www.google.com/search?q=millions+of+indian+children+die+of+malnuttrition+every+year&rlz=1C5CHFA_enHK1009HK1009&oq=millions+of+indian+children+die+of+malnuttrition+every+year&aqs=chrome..69i57.20703j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    • Replies:@antibeast
    @Deep Thought



    This is the best example of projection I have seen. It comes about because some Indians want to divert attention from the fact that millions of Indians– especially children– die of malnutrition.

     

    The best rebuttal I have seen of the anti-Mao ‘demonization’ campaign launched by the West since the 1980s is this article by Utsa Patnaik, a Marxist economist based in India, excerpts below:

    https://mronline.org/2011/06/26/revisiting-alleged-30-million-famine-deaths-during-chinas-great-leap/

    Revisiting Alleged 30 Million Famine Deaths during China’s Great Leap
    By Utsa Patnaik (Posted Jun 26, 2011)

    Thirty years ago, a highly successful vilification campaign was launched against Mao Zedong, saying that a massive famine in which 27 to 30 million people died in China took place during the Great Leap period, 1958 to 1961, which marked the formation of the people’s communes under his leadership. The main basis of this assertion was, first, the population deficit in China during 1958 to 1961 and, second, the work of two North American demographers, A J Coale (Rapid Population Change in China 1952-1982, 1982) and Judith Banister (China’s Changing Population, 1987). No one bothered to look at the highly dubious method through which these demographers had arrived at their apocalyptic figures.

    The ‘estimate’ was later widely publicised by Amartya K Sen, who built an entire theory saying that democratic freedom, especially press freedom, in India meant that famine was avoided while its absence in China explains why the world did not know that such a massive famine had taken place until as much as a quarter century later when the North American demographers painstakingly uncovered it.

    The capitalist press was happy to reciprocate the compliment by repeatedly writing of “30 million famine deaths,” to the extent that a fiction was established as historical fact in readers’ minds. The London Economist had a special issue on China some years ago, which repeated the allegation of 30 million deaths in three separate articles and refused to publish the Letter to the Editor this author sent contradicting the claim. More recently, in his Introduction to the book Mao Zedong on Practice and Contradiction, which he edited and published in 2006, Slavoj Zizek also mentioned the figure of 30 millions as though it were a given fact. Well-known intellectuals have to be taken seriously and the claim examined.

    There are two routes through which very large ‘famine deaths’ have been claimed — firstly, population deficit and, secondly, imputing births and deaths which did not actually take place. Looking at China’s official population data from its 1953 and 1964 censuses, we see that if the rate of population increase up to 1958 had been maintained, the population should have been 27 million higher over the period of 1959-1961 than it actually was. This population deficit is also discussed by the demographers Pravin Visaria and Leela Visaria. The population deficit was widely equated with ‘famine deaths.’ But 18 million of the people alleged to have died in a famine were not born in the first place. The decline in the birth rate from 29 in 1958 to 18 in 1961 is being counted as famine deaths. The Chinese are a highly talented people, but they have not learnt the art of dying without being born.

    There is a basic responsibility that everyone, and more particularly academics, has to be clear and precise about. To say or write that “27 million people died in the famine in China” conveys to the reader that people who were actually present and alive starved to death. But this did not actually happen and the statement that it did is false.

    China had lowered it death rate sharply from 20 to 12 per thousand between 1953 and 1958. (India did not reach the latter level until over a quarter century later.) After the radical land reforms and the formation of rural cooperatives, there were mass campaigns to clean up the environment and do away with disease bearing pests while a basic rural health care system was put in place. That a dramatic reduction in the rural death rate was achieved is not disputed by anyone. During the early commune formation from 1958, there was a massive mobilisation of peasants for a stupendous construction effort, which completely altered for a few years the normal patterns of peasant family life. Women were drawn into the workforce, communal kitchens were established and children looked after in crèches as most of the able-bodied population moved to irrigation and other work sites during the slack season. We find a graphic description of this period of mass mobilisation in Wiliam Hinton’s Shenfan. When this author spent three weeks in China in 1983, visiting several communes — which still existed at that time — she was told every time that “we built our water conservation system during the Great Leap.” The birth rate fall from 1959 had to do with labour mobilisation, and not low nutrition since the 1958 foodgrain output was exceptionally good at 200 million tons (mt).

    There was excess mortality compared to the 1958 level over the next three years, of a much smaller order. Let us be clear on the basic facts about what did happen: there was a run of three years of bad harvests in China — drought in some parts, floods in others, and pest attacks. Foodgrain output fell from the 1958 good harvest of 200 mt to 170 mt in 1959 and further to 143.5 mt in 1960, with 1961 registering a small recovery to 147 million tons. This was a one-third decline, larger than the one-quarter decline India saw during its mid-1960s drought and food crisis. Grain output drop coincided in time with the formation of the communes, and this lent itself to a fallacious causal link being argued by the academics who were inclined to do so, and they blamed the commune formation for the output decline. One can much more plausibly argue precisely the opposite — that without the egalitarian distribution that the communes practised, the impact on people of the output decline, which arose for independent reasons and would have taken place anyway, would have been far worse. Further, without the 46,000 reservoirs built with collective labour on the communes up to 1980, the effects of later droughts would have been very severe. Recovery to the 200 million ton level took place only by 1965. Throughout, however, the per capita foodgrain output in China even during the worst year, 1960, remained substantially above that in India.

    As output declined from 1959, there was a rise in the officially measured death rate from 12 in 1958 to 14.6 in 1959, followed by a sharp rise in 1960 to 25.4 per thousand, falling the next year to 14.2 and further to 10 in 1962. While, clearly, 1960 was an abnormal year with about 8 million deaths in excess of the 1958 level, note that this peak official ‘famine’ death rate of 25.4 per thousand in China was little different from India’s 24.8 death rate in the same year which was considered quite normal and attracted no criticism. If we take the remarkably low death rate of 12 per thousand that China had achieved by 1958 as the benchmark, and calculate the deaths in excess of this over the period 1959 to 1961, it totals 11.5 million. This is the maximal estimate of possible ‘famine deaths.’ Even this order of excess deaths is puzzling given the egalitarian distribution in China, since its average grain output per head was considerably above India’s level even in the worst year, and India saw no generalised famine in the mid-1960s.

    Relative to China’s population, this figure of plausible excess mortality is low and it did not satisfy the academics in northern universities who have been always strongly opposed to socialised production. Coale’s and Banister’s estimates gave them the ammunition they were looking for to attack the communes. How exactly do Coale and Banister reach a figure of ‘famine deaths’ which is three times higher than the maximal plausible estimate? Examining carefully how they arrived at 30 million ‘famine deaths’ estimate, we find that the figure was manufactured by using indefensible assumptions and has had no scholarly basis.

    In the 1982 census, there was a survey on fertility covering one million persons or a mere 0.1 per cent sample of the population, who were asked about births and deaths from the early 1950s onwards. The very high total fertility rate obtained from this 1982 survey is used by them to say that millions more were actually born between the two census years, 1953 and 1964, than were officially recorded. They ignore the birth rate of 37 per thousand derived from a very much larger 1953 sample which had covered five per cent of all households and was specially designed to collect the information on births and deaths used in the official estimates. Instead, they impute birth rates of 43 to 44 per thousand to the 1950s, using the 1982 survey. There is no justification for such an arbitrary procedure of using a much later reported high fertility rate for a long distant past. We know that a distant recall period makes responses inaccurate. These imputed extra births between 1953 and 1964 total a massive 50 million but according to them did not increase by an iota the 1964 population total, 694.6 million, the official figure which they assume as correct. Thus, although all official birth and death rates are rejected by them, the official population totals are accepted. This opportunistic assumption is clearly necessary for their purpose because it allows them to assert that the same number of extra people died between 1953 and 1964, as the extra people they claim were born.

    But the demographers are still not satisfied with the 50 million extra births and deaths that they have conjured up. Fitting a linear time trend to the falling death rate of the early fifties is done to say that deaths should have continued to decline steeply after 1958 and, since it did not, the difference from the trend meant additional ‘famine deaths.’ Such straight-line trend fitting is a senseless procedure since the death rate necessarily shows non-linear behaviour. It cannot continue falling at the same steep rate; it has to flatten out and cannot reach zero in any population — not even the inimitable Chinese people could hope to become immortal. The final estimate of extra deaths in both authors is raised thereby to a massive 60 million, a heroic 65 per cent higher than the official total of deaths over the inter-censal period.

    Having created these 60 million extra deaths at their own sweet will out of nothing, the authors then proceed to allocate them over the years 1953 to 1964, arbitrarily attributing a higher portion to the great leap years in particular. The arbitrariness is clear from the variation in their own manipulations of the figures. Coale’s allocation raises his peak death rate in 1960 to 38.8 per thousand while Banister is bolder and raises it to 44.6 compared to the official 25.4 for that year, and 30 million ‘famine deaths’ are claimed over the Great Leap years after all this smart legerdemain. Having violated every tenet of reason, these ‘academics’ may as well have allocated all their imaginary deaths to the Great Leap years and claimed that 60 million died — why hang themselves only for a lamb rather than for a sheep! Seldom have we seen basic norms of academic probity and honesty being more blatantly violated, than in this travesty of statistical ‘estimates.’ And seldom have noted intellectuals, who might have been expected to show more common sense, shown instead more credulous naïveté and irresponsibility, by accepting without investigation and propagating such nonsensical ‘estimates,’ giving them the status of historical fact. In the process, they have libelled and continue to libel Mao Zedong, a great patriot and revolutionary. They have unwittingly confirmed the principle attributed to Goebbels — that a lie has to be a really big lie and be endlessly repeated; then it is bound to be believed.

    Thirty million or three crores is not a small figure. When one million people died in Britain’s colony, Ireland, in 1846-47, the world knew about it. When three million people died in the 1943-44 Bengal famine, the fact that a famine occurred was known. Yet 30 million people are supposed to have died in China without anyone knowing at that time that a famine took place. The reason no one knew about it is simple, for a massive famine did not take place at all. The intellectuals who quote the massive famine deaths figure of 30 million today are no doubt outstandingly clever in the small, im kleinen, but are proving themselves to be rather foolish im grossen, in the large. A person has to be very foolhardy indeed to say that 30 million people died in a famine without anyone including the foreign diplomats in China and the China-watchers abroad having the slightest inkling of it. And those who credulously believe this claim and uncritically repeat it show an even greater folly than the originators of the claim.

    Replies: @dogbumbreath

  • Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeffrey A Freeman
    God be with Derek Chauvin.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    God be with Derek Chauvin.

    Why?

    Why should He comfort Derek when Whites themselves refuse to help Chauvin? Or protect each other. What did Whites, the majority of the country, do for the Proud Boys, Ashli Babbitt, Jansixers, etc.?

    Blacksrioted to support of a violent, drug-addicted, repeat-offending knicker convict who also did pornos (“Big Floyd”).

    Whites did squat to help Chauvin…who had to deal daily with orcs…and now rots in jail.

    Once-proud Whites are now pussies who get boners when pegged by Juden, Inc.

    Miriam Elman, hasbarista for the pro-Israel groupAcademic Engagement Network eructed thusly:

    “In 2012 some Minneapolis police officers attended an FBI-hosted counter-terror seminar where a few Israeli law enforcement officials were invited to speak.”

    TRANSLATION: AshkeNAZI thugs taught MN cops how to use chokeholds like the IDF (Israeli Donkey Fellators) use on Palestinian schoolgirls. Chauvin followed their training.

    Elman deflects:

    “[T]he notion that this training program…caused or contributed to police shootings by American cops on the beat is ludicrous.”

    If you say so, yenta.

    (Note, though, how she dodged the question of chokeholds.)

    Ludicrous like logging every “odd look” given to odd-looking Matzonians as WWIII?

    Strange like Jewsconstantly nagging, bitching, kvetching, grifting, mooching, whining, finagling, etc.?

    Weird like Jewsdisappearing Kanye West after he said Jews “disappear” their critics?

    Now, name a group that constantly brags about how smart, successful, and chosen it is.

    Name one that eternally denies it ever does anything wrong…EVAH!

    Cite one that views goyim asuntermenschen who deserve to be lied to, fleeced, and enslaved.

    Notice a pattern?

    Elman snarks that holding Jews accountable…

    “smacks of antisemitic tropes and canards.”

    Tropes and canards that…amazingly…always seem to arise out of thin air, for no reason at all, ‘cuz tribal dindus “dint do nuttin’!”

    Jews get trillions of dollars for a Lolocaust that they forbid anyone to examine.

    >sustained anti-Jewish hatred across the millennia.”

    Due to the Tribe shit-stirring for eons?

    “Scapegoating American Jews for societal ills is one of the hallmarks of antisemtic discourse.”

    And also…true.

    More and more people are waking up and saying, “Gradually I began to hate them.”

    It’ll be interesting to see how Jews react when Putin finally pulverizes Ukraine: a country led by a Jew…who’s supported by key US political-banking-media Jews…who want Ukraine to become Israel II.

    It will also be interesting to see how Jews around the world get treated after cheering on (or silently endorsing) a needless war that killed so many Slavs.

    The arrogance, insolence, and white-hot white-hatred of the Tribe is reaching a boiling point. People are getting sick of hearing that Jews suffer the most. Wearying of their claim to be the smartest, chosenest, most innocentvolk of all.

    Why is such a teeny-weeny percent of the world allowed so much power?

    Goyim are getting sick of the Tribe’s constant-constant-constant promotion of ideas and rules it itself ignores.

    Hell, even their owngod, Yahweh, repeatedly got sick for their shenanigans, kicking their arses multiple times for being stool-brains:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nns9HfOM-Ro&t=2s&ab_channel=MOVClips
    Video Link

  • @d dan
    @dogbumbreath


    "How can anything be fixed/corrected when a country continues to blindly point the finger."
     
    Sadly true. China [the government, the people, the party] was able to self-correct within a few years after they realized their mistakes. As a result, Chinese of the 1950/60 lived better than their ancestors, and of the 1970/80 lived better than the 1950/60s and so on.

    And it was not because China had/has less problems than America. On the contrary, China's problems were MUCH more complicated and numerous than what faced US today. For example, China also had a very militant group of Muslim minority called Hui, and their history (dated back to Qinq) of extreme violence against Hans made the American Blacks' crimes look like kindergarten brawl. So, after almost a century of fights [Ref 1], in 1949, Mao proposed the "three equality": equality among races, between man/woman, and among all people. Fast forward today, we can see Hui people live harmoniously with Hans, and Hui restaurants striving next to Tiananmen in Beijing.

    If America of the 2020s is really similar to the China of 1950/60s as this author claims, let see how America self-corrects itself in a few years or a few decades. Anyone wants to place a bet? Please count me out.

    Ref 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7p289Eo2s

    Replies: @Deep Thought

    And it was not because China had/has less problems than America. On the contrary, China’s problems were MUCH more complicated and numerous than what faced US today. For example, China also had a very militant group of Muslim minority called Hui, and their history (dated back to Qinq) of extreme violence against Hans made the American Blacks’ crimes look like kindergarten brawl. So, after almost a century of fights [Ref 1], in 1949, Mao proposed the “three equality”: equality among races, between man/woman, and among all people. Fast forward today, we can see Hui people live harmoniously with Hans, and Hui restaurants striving next to Tiananmen in Beijing.

    As for integration and assimilation, that is the beauty of the Chinese civilization. By making the minorities accept their own new found Chinese identity, they will become integral and equal parts of us. This is not something that the Japanese or Europeans can achieve. Their societies will forever be ridden with racial animosities, which in China will only manifest as transitional phenomena.

  • @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Godfree Roberts

    https://i.postimg.cc/y8zJ0CtC/1200x1200.jpg


    During his detention, Peng wrote his last letter to Mao Zedong on January 1, 1967. In the letter, he briefly introduced the process of his detention and said, "I salute you for the last time! I wish you a long and healthy life!” This letter was sent to Zhou Enlai from the guardianship point, and after he read it at the meeting of the Central Committee, he sent the letter to Mao Zedong, Lin Biao and Jiang Qing for reading. Mao Zedong saw Peng’s letter in Zhongnanhai, picked up a black pencil, and drew an irregular circle on the letter without any comments.

    With the support of Kang Sheng and Chen Boda, on July 9, 1967, Han Aijing forced Peng Dehuai to confess and beat him, claiming that at the "struggle session" wanted to "see the red with a bayonet", and asked Peng to explain "why did you write an opposition letter at the Lushan Conference against 'three sides Red Flag'?" "Why do you oppose Chairman Mao?" Peng was "knocked down" seven times, his forehead was injured and bleeding, his fifth and tenth ribs were broken, and Li Zhongqi slapped Peng Dehuai in public. [64][65]

     

    https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/彭德怀#文革身死

    https://i.postimg.cc/htZtpJtx/image.jpg

    In early 1968, Liu was still in solitary confinement in Fuluju, Zhongnanhai [6]:984. Liu's mental and living conditions continued to deteriorate. Since 1968, he had successively suffered from pneumonia, diabetes, hypertension, autonomic disorders, etc., and his condition worsened after March [6]:984.

    In October 1969, Mao Zedong estimated that the international situation might suddenly deteriorate according to the world dynamics at that time, so he decided to take a large-scale national war preparation operation [6]: 985. The CPC Central Committee decided to evacuate Liu

    Due to bumps and colds on the way, Liu's condition continued to worsen after he arrived in Kaifeng[6]:985.

    At midnight on November 13, when registering the "cremation application form", the task force falsely used Liu Yuan's name to apply[98], and filled in the "name of the deceased" as "Liu Weihuang"[6]: 986, and the occupation as "unemployed". Liu's body was falsely claimed to be that of a patient with a severe infectious disease [6]: 986. On November 14, Liu's body was secretly cremated on the spot at the Eastern Suburb Crematorium in Kaifeng City [99]: 17. The ashes were packed in an ordinary wooden box and stored in the ashes storage room of Kaifeng Crematorium[6]:986.
     
    https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/刘少奇#病重去世

    Replies: @Mehool Mehta, @Godfree Roberts

    China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms Bhai, Meow Tze Tung did not give crap about the millions dying in the famines. Meow was squeezing out grain from Chinese farmers and exported food to Eastern European Communist regimes (even when his Chinese people were dying) to get weapons and nuclear technology. He did not mind that millions of people died of starvation. Indeed even before the Great Leap backwards, Charman Meow cold calculated that millions of Chinese may die, he did not care, he wanted global power to dominate world, technology and weapons above all. For his projects to take off, half of China may have to die, Meow did not care. Meow was jealous of the Soviet Union and wanted to overtake Rus as well as Bartania and Amrika at any cost.

    Kingdoms Bhai, please watch this.

    Video LinkUtopia, Mao and the Empress Dowager Cixi – An SWF 2013 Lecture by Jung Chang
    Check from 6:50 to 12:00

    She found from years of research. She experience Cultural Revolution personally in China.
    —–Mehool Bhai from the India.

    • Replies:@Deep Thought
    @Mehool Mehta


    He did not mind that millions of people died of starvation. Indeed even before the Great Leap
     
    This is the best example of projection I have seen. It comes about because some Indians want to divert attention from the fact that millions of Indians-- especially children-- die of malnutrition. This is STILL happening every year:

    Infant mortality is 0.8 crore annually or 80,00,000 children die every year in our country before six months of age. This means that on an average as many as 21,917 children die every day in India.2020年9月30日

    https://www.google.com/search?q=millions+of+indian+children+die+of+malnuttrition+every+year&rlz=1C5CHFA_enHK1009HK1009&oq=millions+of+indian+children+die+of+malnuttrition+every+year&aqs=chrome..69i57.20703j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
     

    Replies: @antibeast

    ,@Priss Factor
    @Mehool Mehta

    Mao was a monster but Jung Chang is a nutter. She's bitter about the Cultural Revolution but her mentality hasn't changed one bit. In the past, Mao was 100% good, now he's 100% evil.

    Her revisionist view of Cixi aka dowager empress has some validity but goes too far. It seems Jung Chang can't understand anything except total good vs total bad. So, she makes the empress out to be totally good against the official narrative.

    Whatever the case, the fact remains China lagged Japan way behind in modernization, and even though she did take some necessary steps, they weren't enough.

    Replies: @Mehool Mehta, @Mehool Mehta

    ,@China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Mehool Mehta

    Mehool Bhai, the PLA commander of the Sino-Indian War Luo Ruiqing 罗瑞卿 was purged during the Cultural Revolution.

    On March 18, 1966, Luo attempted suicide by jumping off a building but failed. He was put into a basket and carried for more struggle sessions.

    Liu Shaoqi commented: "Actually, suicide requires some skill, it should have been head first, but he landed feet first, his feet were broken, and his head was not injured."

    Deng Xiaoping: "Just like a female diving athlete, jumped like a popsicle".

    Ye Jianying composed an impromptu poem: "The general's reputation is shattered in one jump";

    Mao only said: "What a loser."

    https://i.postimg.cc/PqnYNqYJ/Fe-Sx-Yli-Uc-AAp52s.jpg

    To be fair, Mao’s military strategy, political theory, commentaries on history, poetry, calligraphy, alone qualified him as a literati,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Contradiction
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Protracted_War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_of_Mao_Zedong
    https://en.thevalue.com/articles/mao-zedong-letter-sothebys-auction

    Mao also made the most of the lifestyle of an emperor, this is implicitly encouraged in Chinese culture,

    https://i.postimg.cc/JnZ1013r/main-qimg-a6b1edb4f6e042e425125256332bc543-lq.jpg

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @Mehool Mehta, @Mehool Mehta

  • Bhai Log.
    Namaskar to you all. It is me, myself Mehool Bhai to bring facts.

    Cultural Revolution of Charman Meow destroyed 5000 years of Chinese civilization. Except cunning strategies to take and keep power, all other good things about Chinese teachings was destroyed by Communist. Why? As Mr. Wu explains well in video below. Communists are the most power hungry people in World and to gain & keep power they an shamelessly destroy everything in path. The CCP wants absolute power over the World at the end
    First about Mr. Wu. Wu bhai is ethnic Chinese but worked for famous Swedish Company in China, at very high level. While working there as well as because he is Chinese, he understood what was happening and the evil danger brewing inside that country. He smelled the tea and snake curry. According to him, Communist China was only interested in stealing technology from foreign companies.

    Please watch, Mr. Wu’s video below. He explain how power hungry CCP is.

    Video Link
    The Destiny of Chinese Culture: The Cultural Revolution

    —- Your Mehool Bhai. Concered and scared in Mumbai.

  • @Priss Factor
    @Che Guava


    Under the Meiji Constitution, the Emperor did have executive power.
     
    The constitution doesn't matter much. Even in the US, with a far longer and deeper history of constitutionality, few wars were declared by Congress.

    The fact is that Japan's modern emperor's followed than led. In the end, Hirohito signed onto what others planned and pushed. Had Japan had no Emperor, the history would have been much the same.
    Squeezed in the imperial game with the West and China, it seemed the militarists had the only answer.

    Of course, the whole thing could have been avoided if Japan kept out of Manchuria, and that might have been the case had Russia won the 1905 war. But once Japan got a toehold on Korea, it was going to make a move on Manchuria, which was going to pit Japan vs China, and the West decided Japan was getting too big in Asia.

    Under the circumstances, Japanese militarists were the only decisive ones, and this came with advantages... until things blew up with China.

    Hirohito didn't plan this. He listened and gave his blessing, but one wonders if he really had a chance. Do US presidents have any real power when surrounded by Jewish 'advisors'?

    Replies: @Che Guava, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Liosnagcat, @Malla

    Squeezed in the imperial game with the West and China, it seemed the militarists had the only answer.

    Facing a serious threat of Communism in East Asia which could lead to the God like Japanese Imperial Family being assassinated (like in Russia), a lot of Commie movements in China leading to the real possibility of a hostile red coast in Eastern Eurasia facing the Japanese Empire. And most importantly of all the so called Democratic, Christian USA not doing much about this red menace.
    Also miscreant politicians riling up populations in China with unnecessary anti-Japanesism (today miscreant politicians rile up Indians with unnecessary anti-Sinoism!!! Karma and history repeats itself) and a rising distrust of the West and specifically the Anglo World with how the Anglo-Japanese treaty was discontinued due to Murican pressure. A move which turned out as a disaster for both Japan and Britain.
    “Britain the Suicidal”, as usual.
    Excessive Christian morality + Jew worship = Suicidal policies.
    Hitler, friendly to Britain and even the British empire (in the beginning). USSR and USA hostile to British Empire. What does suicidal Britain do? Support the USA and USSR. Loses Empire, treated as a bitch by both the USA and USSR during the Suez crisis. Confused pikachu face.

  • Appreciate the author’s laying out the Maoist Cultural Revolution, which doesn’t get enough air time and displays many parallels with woke madness during the Trump era. Especially appreciate the clear statements about how the Antifa/BLM forces were the goon squads of the establishment, the real insurrectionists, and how they enjoyed broad corporate sponsorship.

    What happened in DC on 1/6/21 was a mild protest compared to the riots and chaos in 2020, just imagine where we would be if a tiny fraction of the 1/6 fed actions were directed to looking into the Floyd riots and destruction. In Portland, Oregon the federal courthouse and city police headquarters have been boarded up like fortresses now for over two and a half years. Nobody talks about that anymore, and the local media stopped showing the world all the pictures last summer.

    The one thing that puzzles me about this piece is the almost complete failure to mention Obama. He is the liberal God figure in this country, America’s Mao, alongside his rich white enablers, not the Jews. Blame the Jews all you want, but it was white and black Democrats on Team Obama that tore up the country, not the Jews.

    Plus, MLK Jr. was killed by the CIA for the way he threatened the US war machine and neocolonial plunder. His national holiday is part of the coverup. Random insertions of MLK denunciation tweets in this piece betray a neocolonialist, CIA-friendly vibe. Do the Jews run the CIA, or is it a bunch of conservative white folks and atheistic liberals joined together to preserve the empire at all costs? I mean seriously, at some point white Americans have to hold themselves accountable for what has happened here, instead of constantly pointing fingers at a religious group in the abstract.

  • @Zachary Smith
    @antibeast

    It's been my experience that whenever Mao's uglier aspects are mentioned, his defenders quickly arrive.

    The gist of their argument is Mao = Chinese Jesus.

    Much the same thing happens whenever the subject of the Holodomor turns up.. Stalin could do no wrong, and certainly was as pure and innocent as the driven snow regarding the massive die-off he allowed to happen in Ukraine. That the Ukrainians tried to cozy up to Hitler in 1941 is surely understandable.

    Replies: @antibeast

    I don’t know much about Stalin but what I do know is that Mao ain’t no mass murderer. I view Mao as a revolutionary leader turned despotic tyrant whose far Left Communism was necessary to cure the Chinese body-politic of its myriad ailments, after the well-known political and social failures of Chiang whose far Right Nationalism was necessary to fight and defeat both Soviet Communism and Japanese imperialism.

    The history of China over the 20th century was shaped by four Chinese men — Sun, Chiang, Mao and Deng — all of whom have been vilified by the West in one form or another. All four of them could not have done what they have achieved without the other. China’s history after the Fall of the Qing should be viewed as a pendulum swinging between the far Right Nationalism of Chiang and far Left Communism of Mao which the centrist Liberalism of Sun could not hold together against both extremes. Only after Deng took over China after the death of Mao did the pendulum stabilize and settle for the center Left Socialism of his ‘market reform’ period. Now Xi is taking China to the center Right Nationalism of his ‘China Dream’ period which harks back to the ancient Silk Road era.

    Westoids like you have too much baggage — whether ideological, racial, cultural — that make you lose any and all chances to view China’s history as anything but ‘Chinese’. At the end of the day, it’s the Chinese view of China’s history that matters, not yours or any Westoid for that matter. Period.

  • @Malla
    Well, Chinese American woman, Xi Van Fleet (same surname as General Secretary of CPC, Xi Jinping!!) is in 100% agreement with Mr. Jung Freud

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZwli4WdZmI
    Mom who survived Mao's cultural revolution rips school for critical race theory

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9vnhoyePGQ
    Virginia Mom Likens Critical Race Theory To Chinese Cultural Revolution

    And check out some of the comments

    Asian De Hillbilly sez:
    "I been saying that since last year. This reminds me the culture revolution in China back in the 60s. I lost my grandpa from the culture revolution in China. He was deemed to be oppressor cuz he was a dean in the school. He was tortured and executed by the state"

    CARRELL BLACK sez:
    "My wife and her family had the same experience in China. The stories she tells are unbelievable."

    自由万岁 sez:
    "I am a Chinese American, I love this country, I agree with her100 % . Thats why so many Chineses Americans voted for Trump! We all l need to wake up and defense our freedom before it’s too late! God bless America"

    JayT FromSaigon sez:
    "As a Vietnamese living 18 years under the Vietnam Communist regime, I totally agree with her. God bless this woman!"

    yongxin shen sez:
    "I am a Chinese living in Canada and totally agree what she said. Admire her courage for speaking out in public."

    Replies: @Malla

    Interestingly this Black Doctor rips apart Critical Race theory.

    Video Link
    Watch Black Father Blast Critical Race Theory At Board Meeting In Viral Video

    • Replies:@Priss Factor
    @Malla

    Is he into afro-colonization of white wombs? He's no better.

  • ” They wanted predictability and consistency in the rulers, not the tempestuous style of Mao who drove history like a Chinese man drives a car”

    LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

  • This writer needs an editor to cut out the endless repetition and self-indulgence.

  • @Trinity
    @DaveE

    I grew up believing the horseshit about Hitler like every other duped Westerner. I started to become Jew wise in the early 1990s, aware enough to view movies, like "Schindler's List" as a work of evil propaganda and Jewish fiction. Once the scales were removed from my eyes I began to see Hitler as one of the greatest of men who ever lived. Of course I then began to see (((our heroes))) in a different light. The "great statesman" and "great orator", Winston Churchill, slurred his words, spoke drunken unintelligible garbage, just a drunk, fat, opportunist, his kind are a dime a dozen. A pompous, wealthy, white trash good ole boy with a decadent, self centered lifestyle. The ideal shabbos goy. Hitler was the hero of the White race, certainly not some drunk fat boy traitor like Churchill. And to make it worse, Churchill wad wise to the Jew, he knew of their intentions. What a POS. Hitler was a man of the people.

    Replies: @anonymous

    The more you know about Churchill, the smaller he becomes.

    • Agree:HdC
  • @Al Ross
    @PUTINFAN

    Jews in Latin America may not be highly regarded but that hardly matters :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_American_Jews

    Replies: @PUTINFAN

    Thanks 300,000 out of 450 million less than 1/10 of 1%. Makes me happy its that low Writing from Costa Rica, where I have only met a few as usual trying to rip everyone off.

  • @Godfree Roberts
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    the torture and murder Mao did to Liu Shaoqi and Peng Dehuai?
     
    Really?

    Please provide the sources of this alleged atrocity.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @JR Foley

    The Thoughts of Jiang Jie Shi on the Island of Taiwan lamenting his loss and likewise Song Mae Ling in DC asking for another big handout. China would have been USA today had the old pirate gained control —-actually, Jiang (Ching Kai Shek) forces forcibly took residents from South to fight against Mao and they lost Mao had the people’s ) peasants interests at heart overthrowing Ching Kai Shek but again —absolute power over time corrupts.

  • @Sorel McRae
    Some good points, as usual, but, damn,you need an editor! Not just for the numerous typos but this could be condensed to less than half its size (perhaps more than doubling the number who read the whole thing).

    Replies: @Deep Thought, @ginger bread man

    Plug the article into chatgpt and ask it to cut out duplication and simplify

  • @d dan
    @Anonymous


    "America is long past the 1950s – when we were more honest, more hard-working, and less represented by Negro behavior and “buck grabbing”."
     
    It is true that America was at its peak in the 1950/60s, but that was NOT because the people were more honest / hard-working, or there was less Black behavior. It was because Europe and Asia were totally wrecked. East Asia hadn't risen, and most colonialized countries still hadn't gained their independence (or for long).

    "In the 1950s, Americans were basically “corny” – very interested in conforming to older standards of behavior and patriotism."
     
    America was bombing and using bio-weapons in Korea in the 1950s. Then they used agent orange in Vietnam in the 1960s. They nuclear bombed and tested radiation on South Pacific islanders. They sprayed bacteria in the street of San Franc. and injected Blacks and prisoners with experimental diseases. They performed color-revolution everywhere... etc. And you are proud that they were even more patriotic?

    "the Chinese are imitating our 50s culture"
     
    Oh, please don't flatter yourself. Chinese has been hardworking since ancient time, and celebrated Chinese New Year long before there was a country called USA.

    "we are stuck in some definitely, uncultured era – the era of the Quick Buck."
     
    The America of the 1950s was as racist and "quick buck" minded (or maybe more) as America of the 2020s.

    Replies: @Trinity

    And JewSA is more racist than America ever dreamed about being. No Cohencidence that immediately after WWII the nation wrecking Jew started coming out of the shadows. Make a quick buck while ripping people off is a Jewy trait that unfortunately many Whites have adopted over the years.

  • @OrangeSmoke
    @lloyd

    As I remember my reading of Herbert Marcuse, he said that the working class (proletariat) did not lead the revolution as Marx predicted because capitalism made their lives incrementally better leading to a false consciousness. He said what was needed was a "new proletariate" that consisted of "ghetto blacks" and sexual degenerates to lead the revolution. And that is exactly what the Marxist Jews from the Frankfurt School have successfully promoted and normalized. It was Marxist, Jews Eric Mann and Susan Rosenberg who trained and funded the two black lesbian founders of Black Lives Matter. It's no accident that AG Garfinkel did not and will not prosecute BLM, Antifa or stop the promotion of sexual degeneracy including the exploitation of children.

    Replies: @geokat62, @Slav, @lloyd

    Herbert Marcuse advocated homosexuals and blacks as leading the revolution in his Eros and Civilization. Later he considered homosexuality was also being exploited by the consumer society. Identity politics was completely outside his spectrum and scarcely existed in his era. He gave it a theoretical excuse I suppose. But I doubt LGBTQ read Marcuse.

  • @dogbumbreath
    @d dan


    Similarly, US problems today are not all caused by Jews-this-Jews-that. Too many fucking racist and supremacist Whites in the country and everywhere, including this site – that is the problem.
     
    So true. How can anything be fixed/corrected when a country continues to blindly point the finger.

    Replies: @d dan

    “How can anything be fixed/corrected when a country continues to blindly point the finger.”

    Sadly true. China [the government, the people, the party] was able to self-correct within a few years after they realized their mistakes. As a result, Chinese of the 1950/60 lived better than their ancestors, and of the 1970/80 lived better than the 1950/60s and so on.

    And it was not because China had/has less problems than America. On the contrary, China’s problems were MUCH more complicated and numerous than what faced US today. For example, China also had a very militant group of Muslim minority called Hui, and their history (dated back to Qinq) of extreme violence against Hans made the American Blacks’ crimes look like kindergarten brawl. So, after almost a century of fights [Ref 1], in 1949, Mao proposed the “three equality”: equality among races, between man/woman, and among all people. Fast forward today, we can see Hui people live harmoniously with Hans, and Hui restaurants striving next to Tiananmen in Beijing.

    If America of the 2020s is really similar to the China of 1950/60s as this author claims, let see how America self-corrects itself in a few years or a few decades. Anyone wants to place a bet? Please count me out.

    Ref 1:

    • Agree:Deep Thought
    • Thanks:Malla,dogbumbreath
    • Replies:@Deep Thought
    @d dan


    And it was not because China had/has less problems than America. On the contrary, China’s problems were MUCH more complicated and numerous than what faced US today. For example, China also had a very militant group of Muslim minority called Hui, and their history (dated back to Qinq) of extreme violence against Hans made the American Blacks’ crimes look like kindergarten brawl. So, after almost a century of fights [Ref 1], in 1949, Mao proposed the “three equality”: equality among races, between man/woman, and among all people. Fast forward today, we can see Hui people live harmoniously with Hans, and Hui restaurants striving next to Tiananmen in Beijing.
     
    As for integration and assimilation, that is the beauty of the Chinese civilization. By making the minorities accept their own new found Chinese identity, they will become integral and equal parts of us. This is not something that the Japanese or Europeans can achieve. Their societies will forever be ridden with racial animosities, which in China will only manifest as transitional phenomena.
  • @Godfree Roberts
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    the torture and murder Mao did to Liu Shaoqi and Peng Dehuai?
     
    Really?

    Please provide the sources of this alleged atrocity.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @JR Foley

    During his detention, Peng wrote his last letter to Mao Zedong on January 1, 1967. In the letter, he briefly introduced the process of his detention and said, “I salute you for the last time! I wish you a long and healthy life!” This letter was sent to Zhou Enlai from the guardianship point, and after he read it at the meeting of the Central Committee, he sent the letter to Mao Zedong, Lin Biao and Jiang Qing for reading. Mao Zedong saw Peng’s letter in Zhongnanhai, picked up a black pencil, and drew an irregular circle on the letter without any comments.

    With the support of Kang Sheng and Chen Boda, on July 9, 1967, Han Aijing forced Peng Dehuai to confess and beat him, claiming that at the “struggle session” wanted to “see the red with a bayonet”, and asked Peng to explain “why did you write an opposition letter at the Lushan Conference against ‘three sides Red Flag’?” “Why do you oppose Chairman Mao?” Peng was “knocked down” seven times, his forehead was injured and bleeding, his fifth and tenth ribs were broken, and Li Zhongqi slapped Peng Dehuai in public. [64][65]

    https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/彭德怀#文革身死

    In early 1968, Liu was still in solitary confinement in Fuluju, Zhongnanhai [6]:984. Liu’s mental and living conditions continued to deteriorate. Since 1968, he had successively suffered from pneumonia, diabetes, hypertension, autonomic disorders, etc., and his condition worsened after March [6]:984.

    In October 1969, Mao Zedong estimated that the international situation might suddenly deteriorate according to the world dynamics at that time, so he decided to take a large-scale national war preparation operation [6]: 985. The CPC Central Committee decided to evacuate Liu

    Due to bumps and colds on the way, Liu’s condition continued to worsen after he arrived in Kaifeng[6]:985.

    At midnight on November 13, when registering the “cremation application form”, the task force falsely used Liu Yuan’s name to apply[98], and filled in the “name of the deceased” as “Liu Weihuang”[6]: 986, and the occupation as “unemployed”. Liu’s body was falsely claimed to be that of a patient with a severe infectious disease [6]: 986. On November 14, Liu’s body was secretly cremated on the spot at the Eastern Suburb Crematorium in Kaifeng City [99]: 17. The ashes were packed in an ordinary wooden box and stored in the ashes storage room of Kaifeng Crematorium[6]:986.

    https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/刘少奇#病重去世

    • Thanks:Che Guava
    • Replies:@Mehool Mehta
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms Bhai, Meow Tze Tung did not give crap about the millions dying in the famines. Meow was squeezing out grain from Chinese farmers and exported food to Eastern European Communist regimes (even when his Chinese people were dying) to get weapons and nuclear technology. He did not mind that millions of people died of starvation. Indeed even before the Great Leap backwards, Charman Meow cold calculated that millions of Chinese may die, he did not care, he wanted global power to dominate world, technology and weapons above all. For his projects to take off, half of China may have to die, Meow did not care. Meow was jealous of the Soviet Union and wanted to overtake Rus as well as Bartania and Amrika at any cost.

    Kingdoms Bhai, please watch this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CdUhpCOlwo
    Utopia, Mao and the Empress Dowager Cixi – An SWF 2013 Lecture by Jung Chang
    Check from 6:50 to 12:00

    She found from years of research. She experience Cultural Revolution personally in China.
    —–Mehool Bhai from the India.

    Replies: @Deep Thought, @Priss Factor, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    ,@Godfree Roberts
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    16 years after the Communists took power nothing had changed in the lives of the peasants. Dismayed by urbanites and Party officials living privileged lives, Mao initiated the Cultural Revolution to emancipate 400,000,000 voiceless peasants whose social status had not changed in 3,000 years and remained unchanged. He succeeded. Throughout the CR's ten years, Mao drove inequality to the lowest level ever recorded while growing the economy six percent annually–twice America’s rate–and mechanizing agriculture. By the end, rural literacy was taken for granted and rural people (no longer ‘peasants’) were as intolerant of oppression and corruption, as vocal about their priorities, as enthusiastic about voting, and as eager to voice complaints as their urban cousins. For the first time in history they were full citizens who could point to the infrastructure they built, the agricultural advances they had made, and the problems they had solved.

    Xi's father, Liu and Peng were treated identically.
    None was tortured.
    All lived far longer than the life expectancy at the time.
    All wanted to keep the peasants enslaved until the Revolution was secure, but Mao knew this meant another 4,000 years of slavery, so sidelined them.
    A small price to pay for the emancipation of 400,000,000 people.

    Replies: @迪路

  • @Anonymous
    @Godfree Roberts

    Asa former RT viewer, I was annoyed when the US media got that network taken off the air. Eventually, I got around to watching the Chinese network CGTN. It seemed boring - the news shows were what we used to call "talking heads" - static groups of distinguished folks sitting around talking about events. And the entertainment shows reminded me of American shows in the 1940s and 1950s - shows like the "Lawrence Welk" show or "Your Hit Parade" - well dressed singers backed by orchestral groups - singing quiet, pretty musical numbers.
    And then it hit me - as hard as a rock - we have zero chance of beating the Chinese. America is long past the 1950s - when we were more honest, more hard-working, and less represented by Negro behavior and "buck grabbing". In the 1950s, Americans were basically "corny" - very interested in conforming to older standards of behavior and patriotism. The youth were very earnest and eager to join adult society.
    This month, the Chinese celebrate their Springtime New Year and their entertainment will be "old fashioned" with old standards of polite society. And next month, we will celebrate our Super Bowl and our entertainment will probably be some clown grabbing his crotch and yelling about "f-cking somebody else up". The rest of the day will be spent in overeating and watching large men slamming into each other
    That is it - the Chinese are imitating our 50s culture and we are celebrating some apocalyptic crap. The Chinese are stuck in our 1950 era of striving and cultural enrichment and we are stuck in some definitely, uncultured era - the era of the Quick Buck.
    Tell me - how the Hell are we going to prevail?

    Replies: @d dan

    “America is long past the 1950s – when we were more honest, more hard-working, and less represented by Negro behavior and “buck grabbing”.”

    It is true that America was at its peak in the 1950/60s, but that was NOT because the people were more honest / hard-working, or there was less Black behavior. It was because Europe and Asia were totally wrecked. East Asia hadn’t risen, and most colonialized countries still hadn’t gained their independence (or for long).

    “In the 1950s, Americans were basically “corny” – very interested in conforming to older standards of behavior and patriotism.”

    America was bombing and using bio-weapons in Korea in the 1950s. Then they used agent orange in Vietnam in the 1960s. They nuclear bombed and tested radiation on South Pacific islanders. They sprayed bacteria in the street of San Franc. and injected Blacks and prisoners with experimental diseases. They performed color-revolution everywhere… etc. And you are proud that they were even more patriotic?

    “the Chinese are imitating our 50s culture”

    Oh, please don’t flatter yourself. Chinese has been hardworking since ancient time, and celebrated Chinese New Year long before there was a country called USA.

    “we are stuck in some definitely, uncultured era – the era of the Quick Buck.”

    The America of the 1950s was as racist and “quick buck” minded (or maybe more) as America of the 2020s.

    • Replies:@Trinity
    @d dan

    And JewSA is more racist than America ever dreamed about being. No Cohencidence that immediately after WWII the nation wrecking Jew started coming out of the shadows. Make a quick buck while ripping people off is a Jewy trait that unfortunately many Whites have adopted over the years.

  • @PUTINFAN
    Jews recently thrown out of Cuba by Castro, circa 1960. THERE were 30,000, now about 1000. SOUNDS LIKE a little slice of heaven. SBF's attempted takeover of the Bahamas foiled. Meyer Lanksy almost controlled Batista in Cuba. FORTUNATELY Jews in Latín América are not highly regarded and have no say in anything, as it should be.

    Replies: @Al Ross

    Jews in Latin America may not be highly regarded but that hardly matters :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_American_Jews

    • Replies:@PUTINFAN
    @Al Ross

    Thanks 300,000 out of 450 million less than 1/10 of 1%. Makes me happy its that low Writing from Costa Rica, where I have only met a few as usual trying to rip everyone off.

  • Another similarity between Mao’s Red Guard and today’s attempt in the U.S. to create chaos that will lead to the Marxist socialist utopia is the destruction of our culture, history, religion and legal structure. In Mao’s time the Red Guard focused on the destruction of the “Four Olds”. The Four Olds were: Old Ideas, Old Culture, Old Customs, and Old Habits. The 1967 “Destroy the old world” poster depicts the Red Guard destroying the structures of old society and can be found on the internet.

    The globalist elite had to be a bit more creative and use the “new proletariate” to promote the idea that white supremacy and systemic racism are the foundation of our society to justify the destruction of everything and the rebuilding of society into a socialist utopia.

  • @anon
    @Trinity


    Poor Whites kiss Black ass to survive, rich white traitor trash kiss Black ass
     
    A true non-White comment if ever there was one. This kind of Jewish triumphalism pretending to be criticism is all over Unz.

    Replies: @Trinity

    Nope, it is constructive criticism meant to kick start Whites and WAKE THEM THE FUCK UP. Insults, particularly when the insult is TRUE, help much more than bullshit FAKE attaboys. I have seen Whites kiss nonwhite ass my whole life, particularly Jew and Black ass. I have seen countless Whites all but suck some non whites cawk in public and then confide in me how they really felt in PRIVATE. I have no time for white trash like this at all. I have lots of contempt for the RICH white traitor trash especially. Whites have been door mats for too long.

  • @Priss Factor
    @antibeast


    Last I heard, the West had wanted to award the Nobel Peace Prize to Emperor Hirohito but gave it to Barack Obama instead.
     
    What irony.

    US lectured to the Japanese, "no man is divine and it's dangerous to worship a man as a god."

    But when it came to Obama(and other figures of Negrolatry), White America is into Negro God-Emperor Worship. Obama was The One. MLK is bigger than god. George Floyd is saint angel.

    What morons.

    For all the yammering about 'white supremacism', no white figure, even George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, was venerated into cult worship like Negro idols.

    Replies: @Liosnagcat

    It’s as if the negro has outsourced his Dunning-Kruger effect, to be performed on his behalf by whites, and whites jump at the chance.

  • @antibeast


    As if to demonstrate this, he embarked on one of the most ambitious projects in human history: The Great Leap Forward. It would turn peasants into steel-producers overnight. Harvests would double, triple, quadruple within years. China would soon catch up with the UK and then even with the US. The will of the Chinese people, orchestrated by Mao, would make anything possible. Mao’s East Wind would indeed prevail over everything. But in fact, the whole thing turned out to be ill-conceived and ill-planned.

     

    There’s a lot of myths about Mao and why he started the Great Leap Forward. While his initial exhortations seem exuberant at best and delusional at worst, Mao stepped down less than one year after launching the GLF because he was in a hurry to build China’s first A-bomb. So that’s myth number one, that Mao somehow run the GLF for three years wherein he allegedly starved tens of millions of people to death when in fact it was Liu who took over as China’s Head of State and ran the GLF for another two years. Myth number two is that Mao somehow intended to depend upon rural villages to build backyard furnaces — which were scrapped after less than a year — in order for China to surpass the UK in steel production. Instead, Mao encouraged rural industrialization by building modern steel mills located in inland provinces as a way to reduce the concentration of heavy industries in Northeast China, which was vulnerable to potential U.S. military attacks from Japan and South Korea.


    Despite all the enthusiasm of the populace swept up in the fervor, it not only undermined the industrial sector but wrecked the all-important agricultural sector (in a nation that was overwhelmingly agrarian). What ensued was the biggest famine in history, losing anywhere from 25 to 40 million lives to starvation. It proved to be so calamitous that it endangered the authority of Mao, a godlike figure at the time. While the criticism of the Great Helmsman was tempered in most quarters, the very fact that some dared to criticize him at all was deeply unsettling to Mao.

     

    The famine was caused by natural disasters such as floods and droughts in the North which became worse during the last year of the GLF when Liu stopped the exports of food crops to the USSR but instead started importing food crops from abroad. In fact, Liu blamed Mao for the famine in the North caused by natural disasters during the first year of the GLF which forced Mao to step down in 1958, less than a year into the GLF. That’s myth number three, that the GLF policies such as agricultural collectivization caused the “greatest famine” in human history which is itself myth number four. While the famine did hit China hard during the first two years of the GLF and the hardest in the last year of the GLF, there is no material evidence of any kind to support the fabricated allegations of the “greatest famine” in human history. The death toll of 25M to 40M is a big joke intended to demonize Mao who, by the way, launched the most ambitious scientific project in China’s history — the ‘Two Bombs and One Satellite’ project — during the GLF. How was that possible if people were dying like flies as alleged during the “greatest famine” in human history? If the death toll was more than 10M, there would have been another bloody revolution in China. But there wasn’t any violent uprisings nor any mass migrations nor any photographic evidence nor any intelligence reports from the CIA, KGB, MI6, etc. that would attest to the alleged “greatest famine” in human history, news of which would have been splashed all over the Western Media during that period. Instead, what we have today in the West is a well-orchestrated conspiracy to demonize Mao by fabricating “research studies” using fake stats to invent the alleged “greatest famine” in human history, three, four or even five decades later, with the fabricated death tolls rising every decade. Seriously, the realistic estimate of the death toll during the GLF is more like 5M which is already quite high during peacetime. After all, the death toll caused by war-induced famine during the Second Sino-Japanese War is estimated at 10M. Half of that is 5M for four years of war-induced famine vs 5M for three years of weather-induced famine.

    And, no, building backyard furnaces or killing sparrows did not cause the alleged “greatest famine” in human history. The only reason why Western propagandists cite those events is to demonize Mao.

    Replies: @Zachary Smith

    It’s been my experience that whenever Mao’s uglier aspects are mentioned, his defenders quickly arrive.

    The gist of their argument is Mao = Chinese Jesus.

    Much the same thing happens whenever the subject of the Holodomor turns up.. Stalin could do no wrong, and certainly was as pure and innocent as the driven snow regarding the massive die-off he allowed to happen in Ukraine. That the Ukrainians tried to cozy up to Hitler in 1941 is surely understandable.

    • Replies:@antibeast
    @Zachary Smith

    I don’t know much about Stalin but what I do know is that Mao ain’t no mass murderer. I view Mao as a revolutionary leader turned despotic tyrant whose far Left Communism was necessary to cure the Chinese body-politic of its myriad ailments, after the well-known political and social failures of Chiang whose far Right Nationalism was necessary to fight and defeat both Soviet Communism and Japanese imperialism.

    The history of China over the 20th century was shaped by four Chinese men — Sun, Chiang, Mao and Deng — all of whom have been vilified by the West in one form or another. All four of them could not have done what they have achieved without the other. China’s history after the Fall of the Qing should be viewed as a pendulum swinging between the far Right Nationalism of Chiang and far Left Communism of Mao which the centrist Liberalism of Sun could not hold together against both extremes. Only after Deng took over China after the death of Mao did the pendulum stabilize and settle for the center Left Socialism of his ‘market reform’ period. Now Xi is taking China to the center Right Nationalism of his ‘China Dream’ period which harks back to the ancient Silk Road era.

    Westoids like you have too much baggage — whether ideological, racial, cultural — that make you lose any and all chances to view China’s history as anything but ‘Chinese’. At the end of the day, it’s the Chinese view of China’s history that matters, not yours or any Westoid for that matter. Period.

  • @Trinity
    @Shamu

    Hmmm, it was the Jew who decided to use Blacks to intimidate Whites. Blacks in America were hopelessly outnumbered, and even where there was a sizable portion of Blacks, they (Blacks) were nearly as docile as post 1970s Whites. Think of a Southern plantation where Blacks outnumbered the Whites. A Black uprising was rare. Blacks were too broken spiritually and just accepted their lot just like Whites of today. At least Blacks had the excuse of being hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned, Whites GAVE AWAY America without a fight. No other tribe has LAID DOWN like Whites, no one.

    The Anglo? Plenty of non Anglo White sellouts as well. White raitor trash can be Greek or Irish or even a Russkie. The Catholic church has done their share of damage. Bringing in all sorts of non whites and setting them up with FREE education, housing, etc. I am pretty sure this is where Black on Yellow hate started to fester. Blackie saw Whitey go off to fight the Yellow man and then turn around and import him to America, giving him freebies that poor Whites and Blacks could not receive.

    Poor Whites kiss Black ass to survive, rich white traitor trash kiss Black ass because of other reasons like money, social status, fashion, etc. Take Anderson Cooper, the dude's ancestors owned slaves and of course the opportunistic Jew did his share of suppressing Blacks.

    Replies: @anon

    Poor Whites kiss Black ass to survive, rich white traitor trash kiss Black ass

    A true non-White comment if ever there was one. This kind of Jewish triumphalism pretending to be criticism is all over Unz.

    • Replies:@Trinity
    @anon

    Nope, it is constructive criticism meant to kick start Whites and WAKE THEM THE FUCK UP. Insults, particularly when the insult is TRUE, help much more than bullshit FAKE attaboys. I have seen Whites kiss nonwhite ass my whole life, particularly Jew and Black ass. I have seen countless Whites all but suck some non whites cawk in public and then confide in me how they really felt in PRIVATE. I have no time for white trash like this at all. I have lots of contempt for the RICH white traitor trash especially. Whites have been door mats for too long.

  • @xyzxy
    I skimmed the article; it's impossible for me to take it whole because the author is really all over the place. He (or she?) really needs an editor, if they cannot better organize it themself. The disorganization leads me to believe that the author is a woman?

    A major difference between the CR and what is going down in the West is that the Chinese situation was internally directed (that is, by indigenous Chinese), albeit directed by way of chaos. The chief purpose was both simple and transparent, to consolidate Mao's power against a rivalpoliticalfaction, using traditional culture as an ideological vehicle.

    It was cultural in that its ostensible basis was tradition--it was political because it was directed against those going against 'Mao Thought'. TheCriticize Lin (Biao), Criticize Confucius campaign encapsulated the CR's dual approach.

    What the CR was not, and this is important to understand when comparing it to current Western oriented 'Cultural Marxism', was that it was not an attempt to replace indigenous Chinese with an alien people, and totally destroy the Chinese nation. In fact, the country was mostly closed off to foreign influence at the time. Certainly the idea of a Comintern style internationalism had been abandoned, as China previously turned away from the Soviet Union, before the start of the CR (after Khrushchev's 'secret speech').

    Interestingly, once Mao left the scene, the Jiang Qing clique, principally responsible for the chaos, was rather quickly rounded up and sent to prison. Serious men with a forward looking view took the reigns. And since that episode Mao styled political thinking has been warned off. One can point to the Bo Xilai incident (and his 'Chongqing Model' of politics) as an example.

    Since that episode, women have been relegated to subordinate (mostly low level) positions. One can point to Gu Kalai and her imprisonment, as the Party's warning against Jiang Qing style subterfuge.

    Not only that, but traditional Chinese culture is making an important comeback. However, to be clear, this latter situation markedly contrasts with much of the 'popular' media (ie, television shows) which center around 'strong women' acting 'independently'. Chinese censors should look closely at that sort of didactic propaganda, and recognize it not so much for what it is, but what it could become.

    Replies: @Zachary Smith, @Reverend Goody

    I skimmed the article; it’s impossible for me to take it whole because the author is really all over the place. He (or she?) really needs an editor, if they cannot better organize it themself.

    You lasted longer than I did, for I gave up on even the “skimming” 3/4 of the way through this unbelievably incoherent piece.

    Before that point, the only real thing I got out of it was that Mao was even more of a disaster for China than I’d ever imagined.

  • @EliteCommInc.
    If Rev/Dr. King had launched a crusade extolling the mandatory exercise of fidelity without acknowledging his own struggles, the matter might have some salience. And while I certainly have issues with Dr. King, least of of all with his occasional bouts of infidelity ---

    His take on the US and color socialization was pretty much unassailable. One might challenge some of his tactics. However, he took the matter on as it was before him. A blight, a wrong, foolish, nonsensical, hypocritical with deep roots in every facet of US life and against the backdrop of the Declaration, the founding, the very nature of who we claimed to be and what was agitated to war against Great Britain --- there simply is no case.

    And Mr Gonzales' nonsense is just that. As history would have it, people who have initiated change have also been flawed, imagine that Gen. Eisenhower had the same issue. Does not upend his tenure as Commander of the Allied Forces in Europe.

    Good grief, look at the founders: alcoholics, womanizers, lousy stewards of money and family. The entire whine about Dr/Rev King's dalliances has been silly putty since it was revealed. If one wants to take issue Dr/Rev King, Then one should be frustrated that he allowed himself to be hoodwinked into takin on the Vietnam issue which utterly upended the work in the US.

    Just like the white liberals wanted it to.

    Conservative or liberals black leaders are always getting hoodwinked into some niche issue that whites get in a huff about . . . Vietnam (which liberals got entirely wrong), same relational conduct, or transgender minding . . . or the whites favorite hoodwink -- "shouldn't the black issue be applied to everyone -- including white women and immigrants ---

    uuhhhhhhhh Noooooooooo.

    As for the roots of CRT, if grasp the theory then one can apply the roots not to Dr/Rev. King but Pres. Jefferson and the claven of revolutionaries advocating war with Great Britain for taxes that all tolled amount to small inconvenience, but an excuse for war

    Blacks should ask Mexicans coming across the border, what happened to all of those slaves that escaped across the Rio Grande to Mexican freedom. Hint, they are not in the Mexican congress.

    No doubt Mr. Gonzales is all for Dreamers as long as they are from brown folks from latin place because: they don't have relations out of wedlock, don't cheat on their taxes, deal in drugs, or smuggling, never accept government handouts . . .

    Good grief get a grip. Dr. king is not why the country's leaders exhibit poor leadership.

    Replies: @Alita99

    I’m curious. What was the right way to view the Vietnam war?

    Respectfully,
    A.

  • What is happening to the US has nothing to do Mao, nor with the Bolsheviks, good Lord. The main big difference is that marxism in early Soviet Union and even more in Mao’s China did tap an infinite reservoir of mass enthusiasm and hatred, the frenzy elicited was real and genuine and of the very same species as experienced under Hitler and under South American populist right-wingers, while now, in the anti-Trump camp, there is neither enthusiasm neither sincerity, especially among the flattered minorities such as the Blacks : they are as a rule very disappointed by the Obama regime, from now on some will march but only for money, and even those who get money from Burn, Loot and Murder or directly from the Jewish media know that these Jews behave as Whiter than Whites when it comes to real redistribution and that the money redistributed is not for them as it was never for them actually during the Civil Rights but for Jews.

    Witness the Black Hebrews who are therein because they know where the pork barrel is. All they were allowed to adore as a leader is Floyd, as a sequel to OJ Simpson, as if there were not thousands of Malcom X’es lurking and being constantly shadow-banned or worse. Well Trump, is (or rather has been, since what he was hired to perform was a dress rehearsal, not the real jazz) next to the same thing as a White equivalent, as dependent on very big Jewish money and having had far more popularity in percentage among Israeli voters than the reddest US states.

    What the big media are pushing for (mark that only the “secular” media have been overwhelmingly and rabidly anti-Trump : the media that abetted Trump were essentially non-secular, mostly evangelical Dixie style and South American style, and actually far more important in volume and in deep state financing and Israeli commitment : it is thanks to them that one US citizen out of two is ready to become a slave of Israel to save his soul not to save his savings) is not a second Bolshevik or Maoist revolution (was there ever an American Long March?) but a second civil war, rather on the Spanish model (another former glorious world empire reduced to misery) this time to be won by the very same baddies that are supposed to have been defeated as a conclusion of the first, and so as to put an end to America’s existence as an industrial empire it had become by virtue of the first civil war, so as to close the parenthesis opened by Lincoln and a few others.

    The Spanish Civil War might give some idea of the things to come and of who will be the victors after all : of course the religious right but not a good one. Franco was a Marrano after all. Make no mistake about it : whenever in history sexual perversion becomes the big priority of mainstream media it means that what is aimed for is a planned defeat and suicide of their own viewership of choice. They promote Woke to make broke anyone who gnaws at it line, hook and sinker. They are there as circling vultures, not as ravenous wolves.

  • Buried by academia long ago was the voice of German sociologist-historian Max Weber as to what to do about the Jewish Question (or Jewish Disconcertion – inability to deal with or understand something).

    Despite that Weber was dubbed the “founder” of academic sociology, sociology was mainly founded as a scientific “conspiracy” to subdue and exterminate the white, bourgeoise and working classes (Marx, Durkheim, Spencer (Oberlin College, Mannheim, Simmel,, Oppenheimer, Coser, Merton, Wirth, Reisman, Adorno, Herberg, Glazer, Arendt, Jacobs, Lowenthal).

    Weber was an outlier who was German who proposed that forced assimilation was the only answer to the Jewish Question (see Max Weber and the Jewish Question: A Study of the Social Outlook and His Sociology by Gary Abraham). Weber had a strong, fundamental bias against pluralism even for Poles and Catholics (see Weber’s books Ancient Judaism and The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism and his writings on the Polish and Prussian Junker labor problem in Germany). He proposed to “find out the ‘secrets’ of the Jewish success”.

  • @OrangeSmoke
    @lloyd

    As I remember my reading of Herbert Marcuse, he said that the working class (proletariat) did not lead the revolution as Marx predicted because capitalism made their lives incrementally better leading to a false consciousness. He said what was needed was a "new proletariate" that consisted of "ghetto blacks" and sexual degenerates to lead the revolution. And that is exactly what the Marxist Jews from the Frankfurt School have successfully promoted and normalized. It was Marxist, Jews Eric Mann and Susan Rosenberg who trained and funded the two black lesbian founders of Black Lives Matter. It's no accident that AG Garfinkel did not and will not prosecute BLM, Antifa or stop the promotion of sexual degeneracy including the exploitation of children.

    Replies: @geokat62, @Slav, @lloyd

    Has Marx himself ever endorse them? If not, they were not Marxists. Marx opposed bourgeoise degeneracy. So did Mao.

    Actually degenerates are product of society with parasitic classes, existed in ancient slave holding societies already. Logically can’t exist in socialist society where everyone works.

  • @d dan
    Too much BS from the author, too little time to read let alone reply.

    Just for a start. Whatever the "failures" of the Great Leap Forward, it was not due to Mao's "arrogance" or stupidity. US pushed its army to the Yalu River border after the start of Korea War (instigated by Soviet), bombed Chinese villages, and blocked China from unifying with Taiwan. US also repeatedly threatened to drop nuclear bombs on China, flew strategic nuclear-armed bombers close to China coastlines, flew U-2 spy planes across China, including into Xinjiang, US not only had army in Korea, but also in Taiwan, and then Vietnam, and then support India's border war, .... etc.

    China was never given the time necessary nor the environment to develop normally. Mao had no choice but to hurry and to find short-cut. The author thinks that she could lead China better than Mao did. But with over 70 years of hindsight, she couldn't even grasp the essence of the issues correctly - the real arrogant and stupid person here.

    Similarly, US problems today are not all caused by Jews-this-Jews-that. Too many fucking racist and supremacist Whites in the country and everywhere, including this site - that is the problem.

    Replies: @Deep Thought, @dogbumbreath, @Liosnagcat

    Too much BS from the author, too little time to read let alone reply.

    If you had “too little time to read let alone reply,” then how did you manage to reply? Seems to me you should have spent your precious timereading and spared us your vacuousreply.

    • LOL:Trinity
  • @Che Guava
    @Liosnagcat

    You shouldn't correct the language tics or errors. Posts and (lately) articles wouldn't be the same without them.

    Replies: @Liosnagcat

    I’m not correcting it as much as I’m pointing out that this rather unique idiomatic tic is one shared by Priss Factor and Jung-Freud, leading me to infer that they are one and the same.

    • Replies:@Che Guava
    @Liosnagcat

    No shit Sherlock.

    Anyone who isn't a n00b worked that out at the time of the first J-F article. You can also click on 'Web site' on any Priss post to read more if you want to. Other u-names are known to non-n00bs here,moi aussi, but who cares?

    Priss seems to spend most of most days composing rants and posting on the 'net, if it isn't her (or his?) job, a fortunate person to have so much free time.

  • the general culture of ugliness

    You can have money-is-everything and “diversity”,

    or you can have race and culture

    – but you can’t have both.

  • @Shamu
    @Trinity

    Bantu blacks are all that younsay. Other black Africans are less savage, ,less delighted with the kist gruesome tortures.

    So one way to see bantus is that they are like pre-christian Germanic tribes, just lower IQs, which means they are much less a threat unless a high IQ people back them. And that is what the WASP elites began doing before the American 'Civil War.' Jews jumped on that bus some time early in he 20th century but it was Anglo-Saxons who's tarted to use blacks as their weapons Anas pawns against all the white that WASP elites hated or feared.

    Replies: @Trinity

    Hmmm, it was the Jew who decided to use Blacks to intimidate Whites. Blacks in America were hopelessly outnumbered, and even where there was a sizable portion of Blacks, they (Blacks) were nearly as docile as post 1970s Whites. Think of a Southern plantation where Blacks outnumbered the Whites. A Black uprising was rare. Blacks were too broken spiritually and just accepted their lot just like Whites of today. At least Blacks had the excuse of being hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned, Whites GAVE AWAY America without a fight. No other tribe has LAID DOWN like Whites, no one.

    The Anglo? Plenty of non Anglo White sellouts as well. White raitor trash can be Greek or Irish or even a Russkie. The Catholic church has done their share of damage. Bringing in all sorts of non whites and setting them up with FREE education, housing, etc. I am pretty sure this is where Black on Yellow hate started to fester. Blackie saw Whitey go off to fight the Yellow man and then turn around and import him to America, giving him freebies that poor Whites and Blacks could not receive.

    Poor Whites kiss Black ass to survive, rich white traitor trash kiss Black ass because of other reasons like money, social status, fashion, etc. Take Anderson Cooper, the dude’s ancestors owned slaves and of course the opportunistic Jew did his share of suppressing Blacks.

    • Replies:@anon
    @Trinity


    Poor Whites kiss Black ass to survive, rich white traitor trash kiss Black ass
     
    A true non-White comment if ever there was one. This kind of Jewish triumphalism pretending to be criticism is all over Unz.

    Replies: @Trinity

  • Jews recently thrown out of Cuba by Castro, circa 1960. THERE were 30,000, now about 1000. SOUNDS LIKE a little slice of heaven. SBF’s attempted takeover of the Bahamas foiled. Meyer Lanksy almost controlled Batista in Cuba. FORTUNATELY Jews in Latín América are not highly regarded and have no say in anything, as it should be.

    • Replies:@Al Ross
    @PUTINFAN

    Jews in Latin America may not be highly regarded but that hardly matters :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_American_Jews

    Replies: @PUTINFAN

  • Communism is both radical and conservative in spirit, hardly surprising as it's a deeply moralistic ideology that developed in reaction to the revolutionary upheavals of capitalism. Remember that Karl Marx himself recognized capitalism as the most transformative system developed by mankind. It was most extreme and 'radical' in changing all forms of human relations and...
  • Utter and pathetic nonsense.

    Communism is Judaism; Capitalism is Judaism.
    And the Jews openly brag about both of these facts.

    Shilling for one is Shilling for the other.

    Are you a Jew, a shill, or just a traitor to the white (and all other), races?

  • The Derek Chauvin case in Minneapolis is a pawn in a much larger power struggle, and in a way, Chauvin is in trouble because even Donald Trump and white populists have succumbed to the same gods controlled by the Jews. When Jews control the gods and when Jews dole out the money(to all the whores,...
  • @Deep Thought
    @antibeast


    Can you imagine the Yanks publishing a similar news article on Hitler celebrating his birthday in the USA?
     
    Herow-hetow victimised the "gooks" just as the whites did/do-- e.g. Korea, Nam, etc...

    Hitler victimised the whites!!!

    Replies: @dogbumbreath, @antibeast

    Hirohito’s war crimes involved Whites too… But the Japs now complain about any comparison between Hirohito and Hitler, as described in the incident below:

    Ukrainian gov’t apologizes for showing Emperor Hirohito’s photo next to Hitler’s in video

    https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20220425/p2a/00m/0na/020000c

  • I’m sorry, did he just say the Holocaust is real history?

    WTF??!?!!!

    • Agree:Liosnagcat
  • @Trinity
    @Doug Ryler

    Blacks no doubt are taught to hate from the Jew, but Blacks have always been a violent lot with no impulse control for the most part. They are cruel and vicious to other Blacks. Third World people whether Brown, Yellow, Red, or Black, even in 2023 are pretty primitive when compared to Whites. Look at the violence dished out by the Mexican cartels or look at how the Viet Con tortured POWs."Necklacing" in South Africa? Good lawd, Whites this sick are the EXCEPTION not the rule. My friend told me he heard of people over in the Middle East burying someone up to their neck, where they will then place a sack over the fellow's head before stoning him to death. And the American Indians LOVED to torture their victims. "Skinned alive" is exactly what it states.

    Placing these primitive and stone age people in White nations us akin to placing a Poodle in a pack of wolves. The outcome is predictable. (((They))) know exactly what they are doing. It is time for Whitey to become a little less civilized,more racially conscious, and a lot meaner.

    Our Jewish friends? Look at how they torture the Palestinians. Israel would be a part of the third world IF not for the West. " The only democracy in the Middle East?" lololol.

    Replies: @Shamu

    Bantu blacks are all that younsay. Other black Africans are less savage, ,less delighted with the kist gruesome tortures.

    So one way to see bantus is that they are like pre-christian Germanic tribes, just lower IQs, which means they are much less a threat unless a high IQ people back them. And that is what the WASP elites began doing before the American ‘Civil War.’ Jews jumped on that bus some time early in he 20th century but it was Anglo-Saxons who’s tarted to use blacks as their weapons Anas pawns against all the white that WASP elites hated or feared.

    • Replies:@Trinity
    @Shamu

    Hmmm, it was the Jew who decided to use Blacks to intimidate Whites. Blacks in America were hopelessly outnumbered, and even where there was a sizable portion of Blacks, they (Blacks) were nearly as docile as post 1970s Whites. Think of a Southern plantation where Blacks outnumbered the Whites. A Black uprising was rare. Blacks were too broken spiritually and just accepted their lot just like Whites of today. At least Blacks had the excuse of being hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned, Whites GAVE AWAY America without a fight. No other tribe has LAID DOWN like Whites, no one.

    The Anglo? Plenty of non Anglo White sellouts as well. White raitor trash can be Greek or Irish or even a Russkie. The Catholic church has done their share of damage. Bringing in all sorts of non whites and setting them up with FREE education, housing, etc. I am pretty sure this is where Black on Yellow hate started to fester. Blackie saw Whitey go off to fight the Yellow man and then turn around and import him to America, giving him freebies that poor Whites and Blacks could not receive.

    Poor Whites kiss Black ass to survive, rich white traitor trash kiss Black ass because of other reasons like money, social status, fashion, etc. Take Anderson Cooper, the dude's ancestors owned slaves and of course the opportunistic Jew did his share of suppressing Blacks.

    Replies: @anon

  • Anonymous[670] • Disclaimer says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    If Mao hadn’t rallied the minions, there would have been no Cultural Revolution in China. Indeed, when Mao and the military had just about enough (and the usefulness of Red Guards had passed the expiration date), the mass movement suddenly came to a halt, and many young ones were conveniently deployed to villages to ‘learn from the peasants’, thus no longer able to destabilize cities.
     
    Mao told everyone he would useluan, chaos, to start the CR, and send the Red Guards back to school once they had awakened the country to the peasants' plight. They did and he did. No harm done.

    Since it was a specifically cultural revolution, he forbade violence and the revolutionary decade passed without bloodshed. The CR was the only successful 60's revolution.

    16 years after the Communists took power nothing had changed in the lives of the peasants. Dismayed by urbanites and Party officials living privileged lives, Mao initiated the Cultural Revolution to emancipate 400,000,000 voiceless peasants whose social status had not changed in 3,000 years and remained unchanged. He succeeded. Throughout the CR's ten years, Mao drove inequality to the lowest level ever recorded while growing the economy six percent annually–twice America’s rate–and mechanizing agriculture.

    By the end, rural literacy was taken for granted and rural people (no longer ‘peasants’) were as intolerant of oppression and corruption, as vocal about their priorities, as enthusiastic about voting, and as eager to voice complaints as their urban cousins. For the first time in history they were full citizens who could point to the infrastructure they built, the agricultural advances they had made, and the problems they had solved. Though hundreds of millions of rural people benefited from the Cultural Revolution, many elites felt that, by destroying the traditional hierarchy, Mao had destroyed the culture itself–a charge that resonated with foreign elites. They were wrong.

    Though hundreds of millions of rural people benefited from the Cultural Revolution, many elites felt that, by destroying the traditional hierarchy, Mao had destroyed the culture itself–a charge that resonated with foreign elites.

    It is true that officials and intellectuals, especially those responsible for running the country, had struggled to maintain their sanity in the midst of an administrative nightmare while many more were subjected to public humiliation or spent years in prison. A handful, crushed by criticisms they found incomprehensible, committed suicide. Some fled abroad and published semi-fictional books about their sufferings and few forgave Mao.

    A small price to pay for the emancipation of 400,000,000 people.

    During the CR, Mao put a satellite in space, founded the ocean-going ship building industry, miniaturized a nuclear reactor for the sub, miniaturized the fusion bomb for the solid fuel icbm, and integrated a whole variety of technologies that many countries still find difficulty in wielding today before Deng began his reforms in 1978.

    Replies: @George de la Jungle, @lloyd, @Australia Infelix, @rienzi, @Anonymous

    Asa former RT viewer, I was annoyed when the US media got that network taken off the air. Eventually, I got around to watching the Chinese network CGTN. It seemed boring – the news shows were what we used to call “talking heads” – static groups of distinguished folks sitting around talking about events. And the entertainment shows reminded me of American shows in the 1940s and 1950s – shows like the “Lawrence Welk” show or “Your Hit Parade” – well dressed singers backed by orchestral groups – singing quiet, pretty musical numbers.
    And then it hit me – as hard as a rock – we have zero chance of beating the Chinese. America is long past the 1950s – when we were more honest, more hard-working, and less represented by Negro behavior and “buck grabbing”. In the 1950s, Americans were basically “corny” – very interested in conforming to older standards of behavior and patriotism. The youth were very earnest and eager to join adult society.
    This month, the Chinese celebrate their Springtime New Year and their entertainment will be “old fashioned” with old standards of polite society. And next month, we will celebrate our Super Bowl and our entertainment will probably be some clown grabbing his crotch and yelling about “f-cking somebody else up”. The rest of the day will be spent in overeating and watching large men slamming into each other
    That is it – the Chinese are imitating our 50s culture and we are celebrating some apocalyptic crap. The Chinese are stuck in our 1950 era of striving and cultural enrichment and we are stuck in some definitely, uncultured era – the era of the Quick Buck.
    Tell me – how the Hell are we going to prevail?

    • Replies:@d dan
    @Anonymous


    "America is long past the 1950s – when we were more honest, more hard-working, and less represented by Negro behavior and “buck grabbing”."
     
    It is true that America was at its peak in the 1950/60s, but that was NOT because the people were more honest / hard-working, or there was less Black behavior. It was because Europe and Asia were totally wrecked. East Asia hadn't risen, and most colonialized countries still hadn't gained their independence (or for long).

    "In the 1950s, Americans were basically “corny” – very interested in conforming to older standards of behavior and patriotism."
     
    America was bombing and using bio-weapons in Korea in the 1950s. Then they used agent orange in Vietnam in the 1960s. They nuclear bombed and tested radiation on South Pacific islanders. They sprayed bacteria in the street of San Franc. and injected Blacks and prisoners with experimental diseases. They performed color-revolution everywhere... etc. And you are proud that they were even more patriotic?

    "the Chinese are imitating our 50s culture"
     
    Oh, please don't flatter yourself. Chinese has been hardworking since ancient time, and celebrated Chinese New Year long before there was a country called USA.

    "we are stuck in some definitely, uncultured era – the era of the Quick Buck."
     
    The America of the 1950s was as racist and "quick buck" minded (or maybe more) as America of the 2020s.

    Replies: @Trinity

  • @d dan
    Too much BS from the author, too little time to read let alone reply.

    Just for a start. Whatever the "failures" of the Great Leap Forward, it was not due to Mao's "arrogance" or stupidity. US pushed its army to the Yalu River border after the start of Korea War (instigated by Soviet), bombed Chinese villages, and blocked China from unifying with Taiwan. US also repeatedly threatened to drop nuclear bombs on China, flew strategic nuclear-armed bombers close to China coastlines, flew U-2 spy planes across China, including into Xinjiang, US not only had army in Korea, but also in Taiwan, and then Vietnam, and then support India's border war, .... etc.

    China was never given the time necessary nor the environment to develop normally. Mao had no choice but to hurry and to find short-cut. The author thinks that she could lead China better than Mao did. But with over 70 years of hindsight, she couldn't even grasp the essence of the issues correctly - the real arrogant and stupid person here.

    Similarly, US problems today are not all caused by Jews-this-Jews-that. Too many fucking racist and supremacist Whites in the country and everywhere, including this site - that is the problem.

    Replies: @Deep Thought, @dogbumbreath, @Liosnagcat

    Similarly, US problems today are not all caused by Jews-this-Jews-that. Too many fucking racist and supremacist Whites in the country and everywhere, including this site – that is the problem.

    So true. How can anything be fixed/corrected when a country continues to blindly point the finger.

    • LOL:Trinity
    • Replies:@d dan
    @dogbumbreath


    "How can anything be fixed/corrected when a country continues to blindly point the finger."
     
    Sadly true. China [the government, the people, the party] was able to self-correct within a few years after they realized their mistakes. As a result, Chinese of the 1950/60 lived better than their ancestors, and of the 1970/80 lived better than the 1950/60s and so on.

    And it was not because China had/has less problems than America. On the contrary, China's problems were MUCH more complicated and numerous than what faced US today. For example, China also had a very militant group of Muslim minority called Hui, and their history (dated back to Qinq) of extreme violence against Hans made the American Blacks' crimes look like kindergarten brawl. So, after almost a century of fights [Ref 1], in 1949, Mao proposed the "three equality": equality among races, between man/woman, and among all people. Fast forward today, we can see Hui people live harmoniously with Hans, and Hui restaurants striving next to Tiananmen in Beijing.

    If America of the 2020s is really similar to the China of 1950/60s as this author claims, let see how America self-corrects itself in a few years or a few decades. Anyone wants to place a bet? Please count me out.

    Ref 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7p289Eo2s

    Replies: @Deep Thought

  • @Deep Thought
    @antibeast


    Can you imagine the Yanks publishing a similar news article on Hitler celebrating his birthday in the USA?
     
    Herow-hetow victimised the "gooks" just as the whites did/do-- e.g. Korea, Nam, etc...

    Hitler victimised the whites!!!

    Replies: @dogbumbreath, @antibeast

    Can you imagine the Yanks publishing a similar news article on Hitler celebrating his birthday in the USA?

    Herow-hetow victimised the “gooks” just as the whites did/do– e.g. Korea, Nam, etc…

    Hitler victimised the whites!!!

    The “whites” (i.e. Slavs) Hitler victimized were considered “sub-humans” and grouped with black people, mixed-race people, Roma and Jews.

    Antibeast’s original comment holds. As usual, this article is more Anglo propaganda using carefully selected bits of incomplete and distorted history to continue the “divide and conquer” modus operandi.

  • Gab comment posted by CORVID:

    If a Christian group in israel started facilitating illegal immigration into the country they‘d be shut down and thrown in jail.

    So why must we in the west tolerate all the jewish groups masquerading as ‘charities’ that only exist to grease the wheels of 3rd world immigration into our countries?

    https://gab.com/Corvid1984/posts/109727076504526125

  • Mao and the rise of the Chicoms was not an organic movement. It was created by the CIA. The CIA is the puppet master of China to this day. Always has been. Most likely, always will be.

    Here is an outline of succession: CIA—>State Dept.—>Carnegie Endowment (CEIP)

    The CIA gets its marching orders from the State Dept. The State Dept. gets its marching orders from the Carnegie Endowment. Want to know what is going down in the Ukraine right now? Just follow that formula. It’s a long game that has been playing out for more than a decade. Follow the .orgs and the money trail. How many .orgs are affiliated with George Soros? He is an agent of that process. He didn’t come into all of his wealth just because he flipped a few bucks into some more bucks in the financial markets. His wealth isn’t even really his wealth. He and his ‘wealth’ are instruments of the above process.

    There is nothing organic about BLM. There is nothing or5ganic about ANTIFA. There is nothing organic about the massive level of illegal immigration taking place across Europe and the US. There’s nothing organic about the huge uptick in crime across our country. It’s all part of a carefully coordinated, choreographed process that is engineering global societies into a particular direction.

    China is a puppet state. The US is a puppet state. The EU is a puppet state. Etc., etc., etc.

    • Agree:Liosnagcat
  • @Godfree Roberts

    If Mao hadn’t rallied the minions, there would have been no Cultural Revolution in China. Indeed, when Mao and the military had just about enough (and the usefulness of Red Guards had passed the expiration date), the mass movement suddenly came to a halt, and many young ones were conveniently deployed to villages to ‘learn from the peasants’, thus no longer able to destabilize cities.
     
    Mao told everyone he would useluan, chaos, to start the CR, and send the Red Guards back to school once they had awakened the country to the peasants' plight. They did and he did. No harm done.

    Since it was a specifically cultural revolution, he forbade violence and the revolutionary decade passed without bloodshed. The CR was the only successful 60's revolution.

    16 years after the Communists took power nothing had changed in the lives of the peasants. Dismayed by urbanites and Party officials living privileged lives, Mao initiated the Cultural Revolution to emancipate 400,000,000 voiceless peasants whose social status had not changed in 3,000 years and remained unchanged. He succeeded. Throughout the CR's ten years, Mao drove inequality to the lowest level ever recorded while growing the economy six percent annually–twice America’s rate–and mechanizing agriculture.

    By the end, rural literacy was taken for granted and rural people (no longer ‘peasants’) were as intolerant of oppression and corruption, as vocal about their priorities, as enthusiastic about voting, and as eager to voice complaints as their urban cousins. For the first time in history they were full citizens who could point to the infrastructure they built, the agricultural advances they had made, and the problems they had solved. Though hundreds of millions of rural people benefited from the Cultural Revolution, many elites felt that, by destroying the traditional hierarchy, Mao had destroyed the culture itself–a charge that resonated with foreign elites. They were wrong.

    Though hundreds of millions of rural people benefited from the Cultural Revolution, many elites felt that, by destroying the traditional hierarchy, Mao had destroyed the culture itself–a charge that resonated with foreign elites.

    It is true that officials and intellectuals, especially those responsible for running the country, had struggled to maintain their sanity in the midst of an administrative nightmare while many more were subjected to public humiliation or spent years in prison. A handful, crushed by criticisms they found incomprehensible, committed suicide. Some fled abroad and published semi-fictional books about their sufferings and few forgave Mao.

    A small price to pay for the emancipation of 400,000,000 people.

    During the CR, Mao put a satellite in space, founded the ocean-going ship building industry, miniaturized a nuclear reactor for the sub, miniaturized the fusion bomb for the solid fuel icbm, and integrated a whole variety of technologies that many countries still find difficulty in wielding today before Deng began his reforms in 1978.

    Replies: @George de la Jungle, @lloyd, @Australia Infelix, @rienzi, @Anonymous

    During his rule, Adolf developed rocketry far ahead of it’s time, built the first cruise missiles, salvaged and restored his country’s economy, built the first network of super highways, developed the first jet fighters, wiped out unemployment, held a massive, successful Olympic games, built a technically advanced submarine fleet, dominated auto racing with Mercedes and Auto Union. Developing and integrating a whole variety of technologies that, quite frankly, most countries would still find difficulty in doing today. Adolf began his reforms in 1933.

    See how easy that is!

    To tell the truth, even though both Mao and Adolf accomplished a lot, I would probably not be all that happy as a citizen of their respective countries during their rules. Too authoritarian for my likes. Your experience may differ.

  • @DaveE
    @Trinity

    The moral caliber of a man is directly proportional to how much he offends Shlomo. Hitler was one of the very, very few who had the guts, intelligence and moral strength to take on the most demonic ethnic mafia to ever slither on this planet. It took the combined might of world Jewry (and a lot of stupid Goyim) to defeat him.

    Not bad for a humble painter.

    Replies: @Trinity

    I grew up believing the horseshit about Hitler like every other duped Westerner. I started to become Jew wise in the early 1990s, aware enough to view movies, like “Schindler’s List” as a work of evil propaganda and Jewish fiction. Once the scales were removed from my eyes I began to see Hitler as one of the greatest of men who ever lived. Of course I then began to see (((our heroes))) in a different light. The “great statesman” and “great orator”, Winston Churchill, slurred his words, spoke drunken unintelligible garbage, just a drunk, fat, opportunist, his kind are a dime a dozen. A pompous, wealthy, white trash good ole boy with a decadent, self centered lifestyle. The ideal shabbos goy. Hitler was the hero of the White race, certainly not some drunk fat boy traitor like Churchill. And to make it worse, Churchill wad wise to the Jew, he knew of their intentions. What a POS. Hitler was a man of the people.

    • Thanks:Zane,anarchyst
    • Replies:@anonymous
    @Trinity

    The more you know about Churchill, the smaller he becomes.

  • anon[356] • Disclaimer says:

    The red states are more like Mao’s red Army in the days before the civil war. Mao was a patriot and the Chinese economy grew faster under Mao than Deng. Don’t believe all the crazy things (like this guy) written about Mao’s China by the British Empire presstitutes.

    • Thanks:antibeast
  • @Ummmpph!
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    There is nothing we can do as a nation to stop the Zionist madness that has enslaved us. What you can do is protect your family and yourself from the insanity that is coming. Prepare yourself. Get a gun. Store some extra food. Ride it out or fukk it! Lets get it over with! >> https://letsgetitoverwith.com

    Replies: @Deep Thought

    What you can do is protect your family and yourself from the insanity that is coming.

    Merely protecting your family is not enough. We must protect the world from the multi-eyers:

    {US diplomats are trained to rely on a combination of cold, hard, strategic calculations and ruthless deal-making. While all nations have elements of realism in their geopolitical calculus, few can bring themselves to abandon morality and ethics on the scale that the US does. While other nations may be guided at least partially by human values – say, whether their decisions will lead to civilian deaths – US leaders are unconcerned by such trivialities. US bureaucrats are determined to get the job done and serve US hegemony – no matter the number of murdered children or destroyed cities they leave in their wake.}

    {In essence, the foreign policy of the US regime – and indeed, that of most western regimes from Britain to Nazi Germany – is merely a reflection of western values: institutionalized racism, a willingness to commit military aggression and even genocide to achieve goals, an unbridled nihilism disguised as vacuous optimism, a constant mistrust of others, an inability to appreciate differences, and a civilizational affinity for hypocrisy and deception.}

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/533574-us-india-allies-against-china/


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