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    Author’s Preface Studies of Orthodox Judaic believers (followers of the post-Second Temple Judaism faithful to the Mishnah, Gemara and derivative sacred texts representative of the theology of the ancient Pharisees), have almost always been marked by two extremes: giddy approbation, or its antipode, atavistic contempt. Both views are predicated on fallacious judgments. In the former...
  • Wow, the ultimate in arrogance: “the Word of God (Scripture) is subordinate to the traditions of the rabbis.”

    Now we know what orthodox jewish believers think of us, the other-believing people. And we’re supposed to deem them worthy of love and respect?

  • There is no such thing as a follower of 2nd temple Judaism. Judaism died when the 10th Legion destroyed the Temple in AD 70. The Pharisees tried to put something of a religion together after the end of the sacrificial system, but calling it Judaism is not proper. There is no Judaism without the priesthood or the sacrificial system.

  • @Ron Unz, Unz readers – please keep this article and Michael Hoffman’s efforts at the forefront of what Unz does.

    @Michael Hoffman – let us know how to support your effort to expose Talmudic Supremacy, Hatred, Murder and Insanity for all to see while applying Christian values of forgiveness in the face of ADMISSION of Crimes and Sin.

  • @Thomasina
    @Anonymous

    "No wonder Jews are such prominent members of the American right..."

    I would put most Jews on the American "left". If they were on the "right", Trump would be having an easier time of it.

    The Jews on the left (Big Tech, Big Media, Wall Street, academia, etc.) are internationalists/globalists/neoliberals, along with many on the right. Basically the whole elite class.

    The so-called nationalists/Deplorables weren't the people who brought in the slaves. Those were the elites, the same people who did/do all the exploiting and conquering. Your ordinary nationalist/Deplorable is worried about having a job, putting food on the table for his family, and maybe watching the odd ballgame.

    The ordinary nationalist/Deplorable doesn't think he's superior to other races. He doesn't hate anybody. What he DOES want are the jobs brought back (the jobs that were offshored to Asia), he wants the borders secured, and he wants a return to the days of "trust", honesty, honor and community. This comes about when you have a country filled with like individuals who have the same family values and traditions. They want their culture back.

    Let's pretend that the Congo was an excellent place to live and, because of this, people started arriving across their border in droves, setting up tent, relying on the good people of the Congo to provide their needs. And let's further pretend that over the years the people of the Congo started losing their culture, traditions, way of life because of this. Would you call them "racist" and "hateful" because they wanted their country back? The country that they loved?

    The Jews have played a key role in the destruction of the country. They have financialized everything that wasn't nailed down. Wars have been fought on their behalf.

    To blame that on the American people is to ignore the parasite in the room.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @V. K. Ovelund, @Joe Levantine, @Hiya Doody

    There are ZERO Jews on the*American* right.

    Those Jews speaking of God and country and defense have neglected to tell you that they’re not talking of YOUR God and country and defense.

    How many “right wing Jews” have blabbed about 9/11? Go ahead, count heads. I’ll even hold my breath while holding my hand on a hot stove while needing to piss like a race horse.

  • Never trust a magician conartist.

    Organized religion and religion in general are mind control. All lies.

    This guy is a fraud. The people he is discussing are insane and the sooner they die out, the better the world will be when they’re no longer around to enslave everyone.
    Don’t read this obvious bullshit. Just more trickery and lies and obfuscations. Directed violence at the international bankers is the only path to solving this shit show slavery human society is currently experiencing.

  • @Alejandro Grace Ararat
    Dear Michael Hoffman, This article is a must read for the security and safety of gentile nation states (including at the social interpersonal level) because this is worst than Jewish-bolshevism’s totalitarian regime (more akin to heathenish satanical) where the modus operandi against entire gentile nations include clandestine unethical attacks through daily social interactions that are inculcated since birth to subvert gentile nations/populations/state. It’s covert mode becomes apparent only if it’s influence gets to be unaccountable, and these things irrefutably constitutes the synagogue of satan. Here is the biblical foundation. It was He (and still is, The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth) who declared “and the evil-speaking of those saying themselves to be Jews, and are not, but are a synagogue of the Adversary” (ourosboros, shekhinah, ein sof=satan).

    The religious Jews or the fig tree of pharisaical judaism trust in themselves. Their source was the fig tree of pharisaical judaism, self and ourousboros as their pharisaical judaism was their downfall. Just as the fig tree, paganistic pharisaical judaism, withered from the roots up, indeed, the religious Jews rotted from the inside-out. Then The Lord Christ Jesus answered and said to the fig tree (Talmudic pharisaical judaism) “NEVER man eat fruit of you hereafter WHILE THE WORLD STANDS. Rev 2:9, Mark 11:14.

    The paganistical, Babylonian, satanic, devices of superstitious talmudic-pharisaical-rabbinical=judaism=judaic-men do not only NOT fulfill the law/Word of God (as they blasphemously persuade themselves) but also do utterly take (reject) it away. What the gentile masses are censured from knowing and realizing is the truth that Judaism is paganistical, pharisaic, satanistic, supremacistic, Babylonic at its core and it irrefutably is none of the religion of the Old Testament prophets. Let us not confuse exposing the hatred of those who observe the malevolent binding contents of Talmudic-judaic passages against gentiles/heathens because since when supremacist oppression and subjugation offer not little value to a free and open gentile society? Since when is truth relative or since when truth amounts to six hundred and sixty six schemes of covert Babylonian Talmudic oppression, repression and subjugation against gentiles by/via beguilement? “For you reject (set away, cast/put aside apart, void and nullify) the Word/commandment of God for your [talmudic-Zohar. Kabbalah - tradition which is mere superstitious supernal refuse of traditions or pharisaical oral law consisting of occultism, self-worship, racist hatred for non-Jews,
    extra-nonbiblical superstitions which abode is from ourousboros’ abyss] man made tradition(s) of the elders (or oral law) that you delivered; and many such like things you do.” “Well do you put (aside, cast away) the Word/commandment of God to observe your own tradition” (known as talmudic-paganistic-rabbinical ‘tradition of the elders’ or oral law). Mark 7:9, Mark 7:13. Thus, this rabbinical-pharisaical oral law (=paganistic-Talmudic-pharisaic Judaism) is irrefutably, and explicitly condemned — by the ONE whom even Moses spoke of, declared,and foretold; The Lord Jesus Christ — as counterfeit.

    Replies: @Alejandro Grace Ararat, @Alejandro Grace Ararat

    Since when the contents of a neighbor’s intelectual property (writings, speech, remarks, comment(s) published on social media) a thing to be
    copy-cated/copied-cat?

    -Alejandro Grace Ararat

  • @Alejandro Grace Ararat
    Dear Michael Hoffman, This article is a must read for the security and safety of gentile nation states (including at the social interpersonal level) because this is worst than Jewish-bolshevism’s totalitarian regime (more akin to heathenish satanical) where the modus operandi against entire gentile nations include clandestine unethical attacks through daily social interactions that are inculcated since birth to subvert gentile nations/populations/state. It’s covert mode becomes apparent only if it’s influence gets to be unaccountable, and these things irrefutably constitutes the synagogue of satan. Here is the biblical foundation. It was He (and still is, The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth) who declared “and the evil-speaking of those saying themselves to be Jews, and are not, but are a synagogue of the Adversary” (ourosboros, shekhinah, ein sof=satan).

    The religious Jews or the fig tree of pharisaical judaism trust in themselves. Their source was the fig tree of pharisaical judaism, self and ourousboros as their pharisaical judaism was their downfall. Just as the fig tree, paganistic pharisaical judaism, withered from the roots up, indeed, the religious Jews rotted from the inside-out. Then The Lord Christ Jesus answered and said to the fig tree (Talmudic pharisaical judaism) “NEVER man eat fruit of you hereafter WHILE THE WORLD STANDS. Rev 2:9, Mark 11:14.

    The paganistical, Babylonian, satanic, devices of superstitious talmudic-pharisaical-rabbinical=judaism=judaic-men do not only NOT fulfill the law/Word of God (as they blasphemously persuade themselves) but also do utterly take (reject) it away. What the gentile masses are censured from knowing and realizing is the truth that Judaism is paganistical, pharisaic, satanistic, supremacistic, Babylonic at its core and it irrefutably is none of the religion of the Old Testament prophets. Let us not confuse exposing the hatred of those who observe the malevolent binding contents of Talmudic-judaic passages against gentiles/heathens because since when supremacist oppression and subjugation offer not little value to a free and open gentile society? Since when is truth relative or since when truth amounts to six hundred and sixty six schemes of covert Babylonian Talmudic oppression, repression and subjugation against gentiles by/via beguilement? “For you reject (set away, cast/put aside apart, void and nullify) the Word/commandment of God for your [talmudic-Zohar. Kabbalah - tradition which is mere superstitious supernal refuse of traditions or pharisaical oral law consisting of occultism, self-worship, racist hatred for non-Jews,
    extra-nonbiblical superstitions which abode is from ourousboros’ abyss] man made tradition(s) of the elders (or oral law) that you delivered; and many such like things you do.” “Well do you put (aside, cast away) the Word/commandment of God to observe your own tradition” (known as talmudic-paganistic-rabbinical ‘tradition of the elders’ or oral law). Mark 7:9, Mark 7:13. Thus, this rabbinical-pharisaical oral law (=paganistic-Talmudic-pharisaic Judaism) is irrefutably, and explicitly condemned — by the ONE whom even Moses spoke of, declared,and foretold; The Lord Jesus Christ — as counterfeit.

    Replies: @Alejandro Grace Ararat, @Alejandro Grace Ararat

    I have unfortunately seen the black community adjudicating the intelectual ideas of what others write, and create and pass them as their own in shows, interviews, media segments, YouTube videos of any length, when it was not their intelectual ideas they are regurgitating ……..it’s undeniable they took the ideas from my original comments and they think no one will notice:::: as I saw your interview Link to the 90-minute televised conversation with Steven Muhammad and historian Ilia Rashad. It is obvious they read the original comment I posted on this thread and then they decided to take the content of comment as their own when it did not came from them in the first place. The intelectual property in written or speech/verbal form is not a copy-cat thing. Since when the contents of a neighbor’s intelectual property (comment, letter book) a thing to be copied-cat? And then turn its contents into and a video format to follow? Such things are not ethical much less morally right to express them as if they were the originators of such observations and I have seen these mode of acting by many many in the black community. They should not pretend to be the originators and expand on the intelectual property of one’s neighbor. — Alejandro Grace Ararat

  • @Vaterland
    @Carolyn Yeager

    The elites of this wicked empire which is the Jewnited States of the Great Satan don't look occupied to me, but complicit. The people maybe, but the majority goes along with the views of their elite. The paradox of Pax Americana and the """American""" Empire is of course that it is a state which denies nationhood, people hood, culture and root; genus. Not just race. Anything essential, inherited; it's an ever lasting experiment, a permanent revolution, an existence in free fall. Sure, American Jews cook the meals, but the restaurant was still built by Anglos and they paid the cooks.

    The JSA is also where all things go to mutate, rot and die; after they were taken apart by resentful Jewish merchants of perversion who take unending hateful revenge for real and invented wrong doings against them. Anything that the JSA did not take from Europe is an abomination and I only need to look at the abhorrent mixture of BLM, Jewish pedo media and Weinstein Hollywood which the JSA exports around the world, to regret that we did not get to nuke this disgusting country. And sure enough JSA's oligarchs have become perversely rich and they make even Russia's kleptocracy look civilized and modest in comparison. They are probably the greatest robber barons in human history to whom even Seneca or Crassus do not compare, not to mention Blackrock and other manifestations of institutionalized, globalized greed. Anglo-Saxon style capitalism, which we used to be able to resist for half a century post WW-2, and Judaism are a marriage of love after all.

    Now! There is a lot of shizo garbage being written about Hitler, how he was an agent of the Rothschilds and so forth. (In a worse quality than Sutton; whom at least did point to Wall Street which is a good direction.) That has exactly one reason: Americans can easily cope with the fact that Stalin was the bad guy. What they cannot, under any circumstances, accept, is, that America was the bad guy. That it was and is profoundly evil. The UK, too. And not just the Fox News/Tom Clancy boomer crowd would have their views implode about their own countryand who runs it. And about the whole world and who runs that now, too. And while the rather bizarre horse shoe theory that Stalinism and Hitlerism are identical is very popular in the controlled (Jewish) opposition and its media, the more honest and truthful and accurate relationship is completely ignored: that liberalism and leftism are two sides of the same coin. And a Jewish led, Jewish funded and Jewish media flanked BLM movement celebrated by raceless, atomized, confused, propagandized, decadent Americans, a great non-people, at the end oftheirhistory, isn't an aberration from what America truly is. No, it is its final form and logical conclusion: the permanent experiment of the JSA finds its destiny in a permanent negro riot celebrated by its Jewish intellectual and media class, its ruling elite and Jewish owned companies executing the social transformation with great calculation; the permanent revolution for the Jesus negro, led by Jews, with the white gentile flock, drunken with religious zeal. That's a bingo! Sadly, the JSA spreads this condition to every country it comes into contact with like a highly contagious virus. At least Mao's cultural revolution was contained in China.

    Right now it feels almost like divine punishment for a state concept which has prevented the great restoration, renaissance and birth of a new high culture within European civilization in its deepest winter. A promise, the last promise to humanity which was at the core of the German soul (genius and genus in one!) and contained within the national socialist movement. Both of which have now been so completely annihilated. And it may have indeed irreversibly doomed the European peoples. That the JSA pissed away its entire world power in less than a century, faster thananyworld empire in human history, is equally telling. When the JSA is gone, its memory will be that of the Soviet Union, or Mongol Empire. A great desert, violent and feared, but which left the world absolutely nothing but dysfunction and barbarism. And to be honest: even the Soviet Union seems rather masculine right now in comparison.

    The barbaric and wicked empire of greed and nothing has, at the side of its Bolshevik allies, destroyed the people of the Brandenburgische Konzerte so a negro could lap dance a white women, degraded to a hooker, with lyrics singing "ass ass ass ass ass" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1VGytzXus The JSA has turned European civilization into a mongrelized idiocracy under Jewish subjugation. The deepest pits of hell are not enough of a punishment for this monstrosity.

    And to also solve "the JQ" once and for all: The answer to it would be full assimilation. But Jews in America and the UK have won WW 2, because they didnot assimilate while German Americans did (which can be read here in The Old World in the New) - and betrayed their Vaterland.

    But to more cheerful things! The ADL has not yet managed to completely censor or shut down bitchute. And for now I was able to listen to our old WW 2 songs. https://www.bitchute.com/video/52dOyBG0y65Q/ A great playlist! And what do I hear when I listen to it? Freedom, liberation, truth, purity. Or simply put: Deutschtum. The last pearls of whiteness in a world order of darkness and perversity while Jewish supremacists arrest Europeans for speech in their own countries, at the hands of their traitor governments. These songs are last messages of a liberated people who knew what it meant, and if it were only for a little more than a decade, to be free from Jewish tyranny, Americanization, materialism, usury, degeneration and barbarism - all which are one and the same, which are their demonic so called civilization. Let's not forget that the Jewnited States and Soviet Union almost eradicated all life on earth with nuclear weapons!

    Well, you however may be happy to hear, that I have finally come around to accept National Socialism as part of our history, but not quite in the way which our occupants wanted! Opa war SS und das ist auch gut so! :) https://www.bitchute.com/video/jVq26p9HxBxh/

    Ade, mein Fräulein Jäger! https://www.bitchute.com/video/2DofHJLVauJX/
    - HH

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager, @Maowasayali

    And a Jewish led, Jewish funded and Jewish media flanked BLM movement celebrated by raceless, atomized, confused, propagandized, decadent Americans, a great non-people, at the end of their history, isn’t an aberration from what America truly is. No, it is its final form and logical conclusion: the permanent experiment of the JSA finds its destiny in a permanent negro riot celebrated by its Jewish intellectual and media class, its ruling elite and Jewish owned companies executing the social transformation with great calculation; the permanent revolution for the Jesus negro, led by Jews, with the white gentile flock, drunken with religious zeal. That’s a bingo!

    That’s also brilliant!

    Sadly, the JSA spreads this condition to every country it comes into contact with like a highly contagious virus. At least Mao’s cultural revolution was contained in China.

    FYI, Mao’s Cultural Revolution was also a Jew operation, and it is not entirely true that it was contained in China. On the contrary, I would argue that the Cultural Revolution was worldwide and that it was imported to China.

    The dates for the Chinese Cultural Revolution is 1966 to 1976, but the so-called American Civil Rights Movement precedes it by 3 years, if we take as its starting point the 1963 March on Washington, when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his “I Have a Dream” speech.

    What took place in China in 1967– at the height of the madness and violence– also took place in America. The summer of 1967 is infamously known as “the long, hot summer of 1967,” which refers to the 159 race riots that erupted across the United States in the summer of 1967.

    Moreover, the so-called “French” intellectuals behind the political unrest and student protests of May 1968 in Paris, France, were, in fact, Jews (Daniel Cohn-Bendit in particular), and self-identified as “Maoists” in another massive Jewish misdirection and gaslighting operation. 

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @Vaterland

    Why do I say the USA is occupied?

    Because the American people (composed of many German Americans as you know) have never had the slightest bit of interest in harming Germany. We have simply been highly drilled with the same lies that the entire Anglo world was drilled in … and that Germans fell victim to post war (and many Germans during the war!) You fell victim to it also, and not too very long ago you were spouting that very stuff here on Unz!

    Everyone is highly susceptible when they only hear one side of the story. I was fortunate in that when I grew up here in America in the late 40s and 50's, no one was talking about the war, genocidal Germans, concentration camps or even “Jews.” It wasn't in my midwestern schools. But itwas in your German schools at the time, wasn't it? I never had a bad thought about Adolf Hitler during those years, or ever, only wondered the few times it came up what it was really all about. But even German kids in Germany were not confronted with it during those earlier years to the extent they were later. It really wasn't "taking" very well while the memories were still fresh. (Actually, the holocaust hadn't yet been invented.)

    I do recall the comedy sitcom about Sgt. Schultz and the American pow's – imagine making a comedy about it! That didn't start until 1965. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan%27s_Heroes I was a little uncomfortable with it because I didn't like the way it made fun of Germans.

    The “occupation” started here in the late 70s … and it came from Hollywood and network television. If I live in the Jewnited States, you live in the Jewish Federal Republic of Germany and most German people are just as complicit in that. Germans have the same right to a secret vote as Americans, so why do they keep voting for the establishment parties, and now more and more the Green party that wants unlimited immigration into Germany/Europe? It's not the US that's forcing them to do that. For my money, Germany's public broadcasterDeutsche Welle, is the worst excuse for news I know of. Well, except for America's NPR.

    But the last three vids are real nice. And this:Opa war SS und das ist auch gut so! Indeed.
    Please give me a contact address if you will; I'd like to get in touch with you about something worthwhile. -HH

    Replies: @geokat62

    If I live in the Jewnited States, you live in the Jewish Federal Republic of Germany…

  • @Vaterland
    @Carolyn Yeager

    The elites of this wicked empire which is the Jewnited States of the Great Satan don't look occupied to me, but complicit. The people maybe, but the majority goes along with the views of their elite. The paradox of Pax Americana and the """American""" Empire is of course that it is a state which denies nationhood, people hood, culture and root; genus. Not just race. Anything essential, inherited; it's an ever lasting experiment, a permanent revolution, an existence in free fall. Sure, American Jews cook the meals, but the restaurant was still built by Anglos and they paid the cooks.

    The JSA is also where all things go to mutate, rot and die; after they were taken apart by resentful Jewish merchants of perversion who take unending hateful revenge for real and invented wrong doings against them. Anything that the JSA did not take from Europe is an abomination and I only need to look at the abhorrent mixture of BLM, Jewish pedo media and Weinstein Hollywood which the JSA exports around the world, to regret that we did not get to nuke this disgusting country. And sure enough JSA's oligarchs have become perversely rich and they make even Russia's kleptocracy look civilized and modest in comparison. They are probably the greatest robber barons in human history to whom even Seneca or Crassus do not compare, not to mention Blackrock and other manifestations of institutionalized, globalized greed. Anglo-Saxon style capitalism, which we used to be able to resist for half a century post WW-2, and Judaism are a marriage of love after all.

    Now! There is a lot of shizo garbage being written about Hitler, how he was an agent of the Rothschilds and so forth. (In a worse quality than Sutton; whom at least did point to Wall Street which is a good direction.) That has exactly one reason: Americans can easily cope with the fact that Stalin was the bad guy. What they cannot, under any circumstances, accept, is, that America was the bad guy. That it was and is profoundly evil. The UK, too. And not just the Fox News/Tom Clancy boomer crowd would have their views implode about their own countryand who runs it. And about the whole world and who runs that now, too. And while the rather bizarre horse shoe theory that Stalinism and Hitlerism are identical is very popular in the controlled (Jewish) opposition and its media, the more honest and truthful and accurate relationship is completely ignored: that liberalism and leftism are two sides of the same coin. And a Jewish led, Jewish funded and Jewish media flanked BLM movement celebrated by raceless, atomized, confused, propagandized, decadent Americans, a great non-people, at the end oftheirhistory, isn't an aberration from what America truly is. No, it is its final form and logical conclusion: the permanent experiment of the JSA finds its destiny in a permanent negro riot celebrated by its Jewish intellectual and media class, its ruling elite and Jewish owned companies executing the social transformation with great calculation; the permanent revolution for the Jesus negro, led by Jews, with the white gentile flock, drunken with religious zeal. That's a bingo! Sadly, the JSA spreads this condition to every country it comes into contact with like a highly contagious virus. At least Mao's cultural revolution was contained in China.

    Right now it feels almost like divine punishment for a state concept which has prevented the great restoration, renaissance and birth of a new high culture within European civilization in its deepest winter. A promise, the last promise to humanity which was at the core of the German soul (genius and genus in one!) and contained within the national socialist movement. Both of which have now been so completely annihilated. And it may have indeed irreversibly doomed the European peoples. That the JSA pissed away its entire world power in less than a century, faster thananyworld empire in human history, is equally telling. When the JSA is gone, its memory will be that of the Soviet Union, or Mongol Empire. A great desert, violent and feared, but which left the world absolutely nothing but dysfunction and barbarism. And to be honest: even the Soviet Union seems rather masculine right now in comparison.

    The barbaric and wicked empire of greed and nothing has, at the side of its Bolshevik allies, destroyed the people of the Brandenburgische Konzerte so a negro could lap dance a white women, degraded to a hooker, with lyrics singing "ass ass ass ass ass" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1VGytzXus The JSA has turned European civilization into a mongrelized idiocracy under Jewish subjugation. The deepest pits of hell are not enough of a punishment for this monstrosity.

    And to also solve "the JQ" once and for all: The answer to it would be full assimilation. But Jews in America and the UK have won WW 2, because they didnot assimilate while German Americans did (which can be read here in The Old World in the New) - and betrayed their Vaterland.

    But to more cheerful things! The ADL has not yet managed to completely censor or shut down bitchute. And for now I was able to listen to our old WW 2 songs. https://www.bitchute.com/video/52dOyBG0y65Q/ A great playlist! And what do I hear when I listen to it? Freedom, liberation, truth, purity. Or simply put: Deutschtum. The last pearls of whiteness in a world order of darkness and perversity while Jewish supremacists arrest Europeans for speech in their own countries, at the hands of their traitor governments. These songs are last messages of a liberated people who knew what it meant, and if it were only for a little more than a decade, to be free from Jewish tyranny, Americanization, materialism, usury, degeneration and barbarism - all which are one and the same, which are their demonic so called civilization. Let's not forget that the Jewnited States and Soviet Union almost eradicated all life on earth with nuclear weapons!

    Well, you however may be happy to hear, that I have finally come around to accept National Socialism as part of our history, but not quite in the way which our occupants wanted! Opa war SS und das ist auch gut so! :) https://www.bitchute.com/video/jVq26p9HxBxh/

    Ade, mein Fräulein Jäger! https://www.bitchute.com/video/2DofHJLVauJX/
    - HH

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager, @Maowasayali

    Why do I say the USA is occupied?

    Because the American people (composed of many German Americans as you know) have never had the slightest bit of interest in harming Germany. We have simply been highly drilled with the same lies that the entire Anglo world was drilled in … and that Germans fell victim to post war (and many Germans during the war!) You fell victim to it also, and not too very long ago you were spouting that very stuff here on Unz!

    Everyone is highly susceptible when they only hear one side of the story. I was fortunate in that when I grew up here in America in the late 40s and 50’s, no one was talking about the war, genocidal Germans, concentration camps or even “Jews.” It wasn’t in my midwestern schools. But itwas in your German schools at the time, wasn’t it? I never had a bad thought about Adolf Hitler during those years, or ever, only wondered the few times it came up what it was really all about. But even German kids in Germany were not confronted with it during those earlier years to the extent they were later. It really wasn’t “taking” very well while the memories were still fresh. (Actually, the holocaust hadn’t yet been invented.)

    I do recall the comedy sitcom about Sgt. Schultz and the American pow’s – imagine making a comedy about it! That didn’t start until 1965.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan%27s_Heroes I was a little uncomfortable with it because I didn’t like the way it made fun of Germans.

    The “occupation” started here in the late 70s … and it came from Hollywood and network television. If I live in the Jewnited States, you live in the Jewish Federal Republic of Germany and most German people are just as complicit in that. Germans have the same right to a secret vote as Americans, so why do they keep voting for the establishment parties, and now more and more the Green party that wants unlimited immigration into Germany/Europe? It’s not the US that’s forcing them to do that. For my money, Germany’s public broadcasterDeutsche Welle, is the worst excuse for news I know of. Well, except for America’s NPR.

    But the last three vids are real nice. And this:Opa war SS und das ist auch gut so! Indeed.
    Please give me a contact address if you will; I’d like to get in touch with you about something worthwhile. -HH

    • Replies:@geokat62
    @Carolyn Yeager


    If I live in the Jewnited States, you live in the Jewish Federal Republic of Germany...
     
    https://img.ifunny.co/images/81739c336615ea0ded8987eadf60b677adcdd397ecbe6bd4d3a8a4127b62f0ac_1.jpg
  • @geokat62
    @Carolyn Yeager


    Why would you look in a book titled ‘Hitler: Enemy of the German People’ that’s just a copy of half-Jew Christopher Jon Bjerknes previous book on the same subject?
     
    PTI, but do you have a reliable source that CJB is half Jewish?

    Only reason I ask is he’s a frequent guest of Adam Green’sKnow More News and has a lot of controversial things to say and knowing his background may shed a little light on his motivations.

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

    I have answered this so many times. CJB said so himself, writing on his own blog, that used to exist years ago, before he turned to just selling books. He wrote about how proud he was of that Jewish genetics through his father, as I recall. (It may be 1/4, someone said that but I remembered half.) I guess he’s lived as a Christian? Adam Green is a fucktard.

    I suggest you ask Bjerknes.

    • Thanks:geokat62
  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @R2b

    "I’m searching, posing questions." Bully for you. So just what are you trying to find out?
    Why would you look in a book titled 'Hitler: Enemy of the German People' that's just a copy of half-Jew Christopher Jon Bjerknes previous book on the same subject? Makes no sense unless that's already your preference, which I'm convinced it is.

    AH is not "my hero" and I don't "adore him," I respect him, so you are absolutely coming from the same nasty mindset as Michael Hoffman and Franklin Ryckaert. What "question-marks" are around the figure of Hitler? Only the made up stuff put there by hateful Poles, Jews, communists and anarchists. It's all conspiratorial crap.


    "what we know now, is that Germany is still occupied." All Europe is 'occupied.' The USA is occupied, for God's sake. Why don't you ask whythat is? It's a globalist occupation everywhere. Globalism/Communism won the war - three major powers against one. If Hitler had not fought, nothing would be different today than what it is, with "Germany occupied." As it is, we at least have the stirring example of heroic NS fighters and a memory of what could be. Hoffman's precious Catholic Church cooperates fully with the globalist octopus in order to keep its own little area of control.

    "The war result is ME-mayhem." It's not Germany's fault. Certainly not Hitler's fault.

    Replies: @geokat62, @Vaterland

    The elites of this wicked empire which is the Jewnited States of the Great Satan don’t look occupied to me, but complicit. The people maybe, but the majority goes along with the views of their elite. The paradox of Pax Americana and the “””American””” Empire is of course that it is a state which denies nationhood, people hood, culture and root; genus. Not just race. Anything essential, inherited; it’s an ever lasting experiment, a permanent revolution, an existence in free fall. Sure, American Jews cook the meals, but the restaurant was still built by Anglos and they paid the cooks.

    The JSA is also where all things go to mutate, rot and die; after they were taken apart by resentful Jewish merchants of perversion who take unending hateful revenge for real and invented wrong doings against them. Anything that the JSA did not take from Europe is an abomination and I only need to look at the abhorrent mixture of BLM, Jewish pedo media and Weinstein Hollywood which the JSA exports around the world, to regret that we did not get to nuke this disgusting country. And sure enough JSA’s oligarchs have become perversely rich and they make even Russia’s kleptocracy look civilized and modest in comparison. They are probably the greatest robber barons in human history to whom even Seneca or Crassus do not compare, not to mention Blackrock and other manifestations of institutionalized, globalized greed. Anglo-Saxon style capitalism, which we used to be able to resist for half a century post WW-2, and Judaism are a marriage of love after all.

    Now! There is a lot of shizo garbage being written about Hitler, how he was an agent of the Rothschilds and so forth. (In a worse quality than Sutton; whom at least did point to Wall Street which is a good direction.) That has exactly one reason: Americans can easily cope with the fact that Stalin was the bad guy. What they cannot, under any circumstances, accept, is, that America was the bad guy. That it was and is profoundly evil. The UK, too. And not just the Fox News/Tom Clancy boomer crowd would have their views implode about their own countryand who runs it. And about the whole world and who runs that now, too. And while the rather bizarre horse shoe theory that Stalinism and Hitlerism are identical is very popular in the controlled (Jewish) opposition and its media, the more honest and truthful and accurate relationship is completely ignored: that liberalism and leftism are two sides of the same coin. And a Jewish led, Jewish funded and Jewish media flanked BLM movement celebrated by raceless, atomized, confused, propagandized, decadent Americans, a great non-people, at the end oftheirhistory, isn’t an aberration from what America truly is. No, it is its final form and logical conclusion: the permanent experiment of the JSA finds its destiny in a permanent negro riot celebrated by its Jewish intellectual and media class, its ruling elite and Jewish owned companies executing the social transformation with great calculation; the permanent revolution for the Jesus negro, led by Jews, with the white gentile flock, drunken with religious zeal. That’s a bingo! Sadly, the JSA spreads this condition to every country it comes into contact with like a highly contagious virus. At least Mao’s cultural revolution was contained in China.

    Right now it feels almost like divine punishment for a state concept which has prevented the great restoration, renaissance and birth of a new high culture within European civilization in its deepest winter. A promise, the last promise to humanity which was at the core of the German soul (genius and genus in one!) and contained within the national socialist movement. Both of which have now been so completely annihilated. And it may have indeed irreversibly doomed the European peoples. That the JSA pissed away its entire world power in less than a century, faster thananyworld empire in human history, is equally telling. When the JSA is gone, its memory will be that of the Soviet Union, or Mongol Empire. A great desert, violent and feared, but which left the world absolutely nothing but dysfunction and barbarism. And to be honest: even the Soviet Union seems rather masculine right now in comparison.

    The barbaric and wicked empire of greed and nothing has, at the side of its Bolshevik allies, destroyed the people of the Brandenburgische Konzerte so a negro could lap dance a white women, degraded to a hooker, with lyrics singing “ass ass ass ass ass”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1VGytzXus
    Video LinkThe JSA has turned European civilization into a mongrelized idiocracy under Jewish subjugation. The deepest pits of hell are not enough of a punishment for this monstrosity.

    And to also solve “the JQ” once and for all: The answer to it would be full assimilation. But Jews in America and the UK have won WW 2, because they didnot assimilate while German Americans did (which can be read here in The Old World in the New) – and betrayed their Vaterland.

    But to more cheerful things! The ADL has not yet managed to completely censor or shut down bitchute. And for now I was able to listen to our old WW 2 songs.


    Video LinkA great playlist! And what do I hear when I listen to it? Freedom, liberation, truth, purity. Or simply put: Deutschtum. The last pearls of whiteness in a world order of darkness and perversity while Jewish supremacists arrest Europeans for speech in their own countries, at the hands of their traitor governments. These songs are last messages of a liberated people who knew what it meant, and if it were only for a little more than a decade, to be free from Jewish tyranny, Americanization, materialism, usury, degeneration and barbarism – all which are one and the same, which are their demonic so called civilization. Let’s not forget that the Jewnited States and Soviet Union almost eradicated all life on earth with nuclear weapons!

    Well, you however may be happy to hear, that I have finally come around to accept National Socialism as part of our history, but not quite in the way which our occupants wanted! Opa war SS und das ist auch gut so! 🙂


    Video Link

    Ade, mein Fräulein Jäger!


    Video Link
    – HH

    • Replies:@Carolyn Yeager
    @Vaterland

    Why do I say the USA is occupied?

    Because the American people (composed of many German Americans as you know) have never had the slightest bit of interest in harming Germany. We have simply been highly drilled with the same lies that the entire Anglo world was drilled in … and that Germans fell victim to post war (and many Germans during the war!) You fell victim to it also, and not too very long ago you were spouting that very stuff here on Unz!

    Everyone is highly susceptible when they only hear one side of the story. I was fortunate in that when I grew up here in America in the late 40s and 50's, no one was talking about the war, genocidal Germans, concentration camps or even “Jews.” It wasn't in my midwestern schools. But itwas in your German schools at the time, wasn't it? I never had a bad thought about Adolf Hitler during those years, or ever, only wondered the few times it came up what it was really all about. But even German kids in Germany were not confronted with it during those earlier years to the extent they were later. It really wasn't "taking" very well while the memories were still fresh. (Actually, the holocaust hadn't yet been invented.)

    I do recall the comedy sitcom about Sgt. Schultz and the American pow's – imagine making a comedy about it! That didn't start until 1965. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan%27s_Heroes I was a little uncomfortable with it because I didn't like the way it made fun of Germans.

    The “occupation” started here in the late 70s … and it came from Hollywood and network television. If I live in the Jewnited States, you live in the Jewish Federal Republic of Germany and most German people are just as complicit in that. Germans have the same right to a secret vote as Americans, so why do they keep voting for the establishment parties, and now more and more the Green party that wants unlimited immigration into Germany/Europe? It's not the US that's forcing them to do that. For my money, Germany's public broadcasterDeutsche Welle, is the worst excuse for news I know of. Well, except for America's NPR.

    But the last three vids are real nice. And this:Opa war SS und das ist auch gut so! Indeed.
    Please give me a contact address if you will; I'd like to get in touch with you about something worthwhile. -HH

    Replies: @geokat62

    ,@Maowasayali
    @Vaterland


    And a Jewish led, Jewish funded and Jewish media flanked BLM movement celebrated by raceless, atomized, confused, propagandized, decadent Americans, a great non-people, at the end of their history, isn’t an aberration from what America truly is. No, it is its final form and logical conclusion: the permanent experiment of the JSA finds its destiny in a permanent negro riot celebrated by its Jewish intellectual and media class, its ruling elite and Jewish owned companies executing the social transformation with great calculation; the permanent revolution for the Jesus negro, led by Jews, with the white gentile flock, drunken with religious zeal. That’s a bingo!
     
    That's also brilliant!

    Sadly, the JSA spreads this condition to every country it comes into contact with like a highly contagious virus. At least Mao’s cultural revolution was contained in China.
     
    FYI, Mao's Cultural Revolution was also a Jew operation, and it is not entirely true that it was contained in China. On the contrary, I would argue that the Cultural Revolution was worldwide and that it was imported to China.

    The dates for the Chinese Cultural Revolution is 1966 to 1976, but the so-called American Civil Rights Movement precedes it by 3 years, if we take as its starting point the 1963 March on Washington, when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech.

    What took place in China in 1967-- at the height of the madness and violence-- also took place in America. The summer of 1967 is infamously known as "the long, hot summer of 1967," which refers to the 159 race riots that erupted across the United States in the summer of 1967.

    Moreover, the so-called "French" intellectuals behind the political unrest and student protests of May 1968 in Paris, France, were, in fact, Jews (Daniel Cohn-Bendit in particular), and self-identified as "Maoists" in another massive Jewish misdirection and gaslighting operation. 

    https://sun9-13.userapi.com/9YhwTHm7JyKQ8a1Rm-Bn1OqXQ6ke9BFYFt_keg/lZKek02CtXg.jpg
  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @R2b

    "I’m searching, posing questions." Bully for you. So just what are you trying to find out?
    Why would you look in a book titled 'Hitler: Enemy of the German People' that's just a copy of half-Jew Christopher Jon Bjerknes previous book on the same subject? Makes no sense unless that's already your preference, which I'm convinced it is.

    AH is not "my hero" and I don't "adore him," I respect him, so you are absolutely coming from the same nasty mindset as Michael Hoffman and Franklin Ryckaert. What "question-marks" are around the figure of Hitler? Only the made up stuff put there by hateful Poles, Jews, communists and anarchists. It's all conspiratorial crap.


    "what we know now, is that Germany is still occupied." All Europe is 'occupied.' The USA is occupied, for God's sake. Why don't you ask whythat is? It's a globalist occupation everywhere. Globalism/Communism won the war - three major powers against one. If Hitler had not fought, nothing would be different today than what it is, with "Germany occupied." As it is, we at least have the stirring example of heroic NS fighters and a memory of what could be. Hoffman's precious Catholic Church cooperates fully with the globalist octopus in order to keep its own little area of control.

    "The war result is ME-mayhem." It's not Germany's fault. Certainly not Hitler's fault.

    Replies: @geokat62, @Vaterland

    Why would you look in a book titled ‘Hitler: Enemy of the German People’ that’s just a copy of half-Jew Christopher Jon Bjerknes previous book on the same subject?

    PTI, but do you have a reliable source that CJB is half Jewish?

    Only reason I ask is he’s a frequent guest of Adam Green’sKnow More News and has a lot of controversial things to say and knowing his background may shed a little light on his motivations.

    • Replies:@Carolyn Yeager
    @geokat62

    I have answered this so many times. CJB said so himself, writing on his own blog, that used to exist years ago, before he turned to just selling books. He wrote about how proud he was of that Jewish genetics through his father, as I recall. (It may be 1/4, someone said that but I remembered half.) I guess he's lived as a Christian? Adam Green is a fucktard.

    I suggest you ask Bjerknes.

  • @R2b
    You are right.
    It’s complicated, a complex thing.
    As I said, I ’m searching, posing questions.
    But what we know now, is that Germany is still occupied.
    The war result is ME-mayhem.
    You could say the war continued.
    We know who does this, and should resist them together.
    As for your hero, you can adore as much as you like, but don’t expect others to join, when there are so many question-marks around the figure.
    For the moment also I have no time with you, especially the woidness of your answers.
    Remember, you are the expert, and I ask to get some substantial answer.
    But thank you anyway, for taking time.

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

    “I’m searching, posing questions.” Bully for you. So just what are you trying to find out?
    Why would you look in a book titled ‘Hitler: Enemy of the German People’ that’s just a copy of half-Jew Christopher Jon Bjerknes previous book on the same subject? Makes no sense unless that’s already your preference, which I’m convinced it is.

    AH is not “my hero” and I don’t “adore him,” I respect him, so you are absolutely coming from the same nasty mindset as Michael Hoffman and Franklin Ryckaert. What “question-marks” are around the figure of Hitler? Only the made up stuff put there by hateful Poles, Jews, communists and anarchists. It’s all conspiratorial crap.

    “what we know now, is that Germany is still occupied.” All Europe is ‘occupied.’ The USA is occupied, for God’s sake. Why don’t you ask whythat is? It’s a globalist occupation everywhere. Globalism/Communism won the war – three major powers against one. If Hitler had not fought, nothing would be different today than what it is, with “Germany occupied.” As it is, we at least have the stirring example of heroic NS fighters and a memory of what could be. Hoffman’s precious Catholic Church cooperates fully with the globalist octopus in order to keep its own little area of control.

    “The war result is ME-mayhem.” It’s not Germany’s fault. Certainly not Hitler’s fault.

    • Replies:@geokat62
    @Carolyn Yeager


    Why would you look in a book titled ‘Hitler: Enemy of the German People’ that’s just a copy of half-Jew Christopher Jon Bjerknes previous book on the same subject?
     
    PTI, but do you have a reliable source that CJB is half Jewish?

    Only reason I ask is he’s a frequent guest of Adam Green’sKnow More News and has a lot of controversial things to say and knowing his background may shed a little light on his motivations.

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

    ,@Vaterland
    @Carolyn Yeager

    The elites of this wicked empire which is the Jewnited States of the Great Satan don't look occupied to me, but complicit. The people maybe, but the majority goes along with the views of their elite. The paradox of Pax Americana and the """American""" Empire is of course that it is a state which denies nationhood, people hood, culture and root; genus. Not just race. Anything essential, inherited; it's an ever lasting experiment, a permanent revolution, an existence in free fall. Sure, American Jews cook the meals, but the restaurant was still built by Anglos and they paid the cooks.

    The JSA is also where all things go to mutate, rot and die; after they were taken apart by resentful Jewish merchants of perversion who take unending hateful revenge for real and invented wrong doings against them. Anything that the JSA did not take from Europe is an abomination and I only need to look at the abhorrent mixture of BLM, Jewish pedo media and Weinstein Hollywood which the JSA exports around the world, to regret that we did not get to nuke this disgusting country. And sure enough JSA's oligarchs have become perversely rich and they make even Russia's kleptocracy look civilized and modest in comparison. They are probably the greatest robber barons in human history to whom even Seneca or Crassus do not compare, not to mention Blackrock and other manifestations of institutionalized, globalized greed. Anglo-Saxon style capitalism, which we used to be able to resist for half a century post WW-2, and Judaism are a marriage of love after all.

    Now! There is a lot of shizo garbage being written about Hitler, how he was an agent of the Rothschilds and so forth. (In a worse quality than Sutton; whom at least did point to Wall Street which is a good direction.) That has exactly one reason: Americans can easily cope with the fact that Stalin was the bad guy. What they cannot, under any circumstances, accept, is, that America was the bad guy. That it was and is profoundly evil. The UK, too. And not just the Fox News/Tom Clancy boomer crowd would have their views implode about their own countryand who runs it. And about the whole world and who runs that now, too. And while the rather bizarre horse shoe theory that Stalinism and Hitlerism are identical is very popular in the controlled (Jewish) opposition and its media, the more honest and truthful and accurate relationship is completely ignored: that liberalism and leftism are two sides of the same coin. And a Jewish led, Jewish funded and Jewish media flanked BLM movement celebrated by raceless, atomized, confused, propagandized, decadent Americans, a great non-people, at the end oftheirhistory, isn't an aberration from what America truly is. No, it is its final form and logical conclusion: the permanent experiment of the JSA finds its destiny in a permanent negro riot celebrated by its Jewish intellectual and media class, its ruling elite and Jewish owned companies executing the social transformation with great calculation; the permanent revolution for the Jesus negro, led by Jews, with the white gentile flock, drunken with religious zeal. That's a bingo! Sadly, the JSA spreads this condition to every country it comes into contact with like a highly contagious virus. At least Mao's cultural revolution was contained in China.

    Right now it feels almost like divine punishment for a state concept which has prevented the great restoration, renaissance and birth of a new high culture within European civilization in its deepest winter. A promise, the last promise to humanity which was at the core of the German soul (genius and genus in one!) and contained within the national socialist movement. Both of which have now been so completely annihilated. And it may have indeed irreversibly doomed the European peoples. That the JSA pissed away its entire world power in less than a century, faster thananyworld empire in human history, is equally telling. When the JSA is gone, its memory will be that of the Soviet Union, or Mongol Empire. A great desert, violent and feared, but which left the world absolutely nothing but dysfunction and barbarism. And to be honest: even the Soviet Union seems rather masculine right now in comparison.

    The barbaric and wicked empire of greed and nothing has, at the side of its Bolshevik allies, destroyed the people of the Brandenburgische Konzerte so a negro could lap dance a white women, degraded to a hooker, with lyrics singing "ass ass ass ass ass" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1VGytzXus The JSA has turned European civilization into a mongrelized idiocracy under Jewish subjugation. The deepest pits of hell are not enough of a punishment for this monstrosity.

    And to also solve "the JQ" once and for all: The answer to it would be full assimilation. But Jews in America and the UK have won WW 2, because they didnot assimilate while German Americans did (which can be read here in The Old World in the New) - and betrayed their Vaterland.

    But to more cheerful things! The ADL has not yet managed to completely censor or shut down bitchute. And for now I was able to listen to our old WW 2 songs. https://www.bitchute.com/video/52dOyBG0y65Q/ A great playlist! And what do I hear when I listen to it? Freedom, liberation, truth, purity. Or simply put: Deutschtum. The last pearls of whiteness in a world order of darkness and perversity while Jewish supremacists arrest Europeans for speech in their own countries, at the hands of their traitor governments. These songs are last messages of a liberated people who knew what it meant, and if it were only for a little more than a decade, to be free from Jewish tyranny, Americanization, materialism, usury, degeneration and barbarism - all which are one and the same, which are their demonic so called civilization. Let's not forget that the Jewnited States and Soviet Union almost eradicated all life on earth with nuclear weapons!

    Well, you however may be happy to hear, that I have finally come around to accept National Socialism as part of our history, but not quite in the way which our occupants wanted! Opa war SS und das ist auch gut so! :) https://www.bitchute.com/video/jVq26p9HxBxh/

    Ade, mein Fräulein Jäger! https://www.bitchute.com/video/2DofHJLVauJX/
    - HH

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager, @Maowasayali

  • @jsigur
    @anonymous

    Hmm, that's not cool resorting to slander simply because you don't like my point of view. I say they, the Abrahamics, are posing the current threat on humanity with their NWO takeover led by Judaism and helped a lot by the slave religions, Islam and Christianity.
    Mohammed rose to power surrounded by a tribe of krypto Jews, I'll link this later. Mohammed's mother was Jewish as was his wife. Jew, Paul started the Christian religion to convert pagans and undermine Rome. That worked and Europe went into the dark ages corresponding with the spread of Christianity in various lands

    You must be Jewish if you resort to slander (idiot lowlife) because you disagree. Jews have a long history of expectation that the goyim accept their version of reality and commonly attack in unison those that don't toe the line with the type of slander you have posed against me.
    On you tube I had a policy of giving back in kind but I will respect Unz's space here and not resort to low level efforts to intimidate the opposition
    Here's the link about Jew's and Islam, incidentally written by a respected Jewish author

    http://thechristiansolution.com/doc2009/158_JewishHistoryofWorld4.html

    Replies: @Maowasayali

    Besides genital mutilation aka circumcision… they also worship the same Satanic black cube!

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  • You are right.
    It’s complicated, a complex thing.
    As I said, I ’m searching, posing questions.
    But what we know now, is that Germany is still occupied.
    The war result is ME-mayhem.
    You could say the war continued.
    We know who does this, and should resist them together.
    As for your hero, you can adore as much as you like, but don’t expect others to join, when there are so many question-marks around the figure.
    For the moment also I have no time with you, especially the woidness of your answers.
    Remember, you are the expert, and I ask to get some substantial answer.
    But thank you anyway, for taking time.

    • Replies:@Carolyn Yeager
    @R2b

    "I’m searching, posing questions." Bully for you. So just what are you trying to find out?
    Why would you look in a book titled 'Hitler: Enemy of the German People' that's just a copy of half-Jew Christopher Jon Bjerknes previous book on the same subject? Makes no sense unless that's already your preference, which I'm convinced it is.

    AH is not "my hero" and I don't "adore him," I respect him, so you are absolutely coming from the same nasty mindset as Michael Hoffman and Franklin Ryckaert. What "question-marks" are around the figure of Hitler? Only the made up stuff put there by hateful Poles, Jews, communists and anarchists. It's all conspiratorial crap.


    "what we know now, is that Germany is still occupied." All Europe is 'occupied.' The USA is occupied, for God's sake. Why don't you ask whythat is? It's a globalist occupation everywhere. Globalism/Communism won the war - three major powers against one. If Hitler had not fought, nothing would be different today than what it is, with "Germany occupied." As it is, we at least have the stirring example of heroic NS fighters and a memory of what could be. Hoffman's precious Catholic Church cooperates fully with the globalist octopus in order to keep its own little area of control.

    "The war result is ME-mayhem." It's not Germany's fault. Certainly not Hitler's fault.

    Replies: @geokat62, @Vaterland

  • @R2b
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Thank you.
    I am surely not suggesting I now the minds of der führer, or his Generals.
    Two of whom I heard of, most certainly was military geniuses: Guderian and von Manstein.
    There are also of course inumerable good and sincere soldiers, of German extraction, that I respect!
    As Alexandros stated though, the whole thing was lost from the beginning.
    He says, ”were we are now”, they would have been without fighting, that is submit.
    So it was a gamble, then, and no good prospect.
    The question must be, and I agree with Hoffman posing it, what would have happened if Germany hadn’t overstretched itself?
    As for oil supply, wouldn’t a smaller, more defensive front, require less?
    Would that perhaps opened for a lot of other poissbilities?
    I would like to say to this, that l have read Joachim Hoffman, and think he has a strong argument.
    But then again, for good will, what would a defensive instead of an aggressor role have given?
    Anyway, I’m iterating, asking, searching, curious for different views, and by no means on anybodys side.

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

    Two of whomI heard of, most certainly was military geniuses: Guderian and von Manstein.

    You don’t even know if they were military geniuses, you only ‘heard of them.’ Hitler had as many successes as they did (they also had losses) so why were they geniuses and Hitler was not? Their memoirs are self-serving.

    You don’t know enough about any of this to discuss it. It’s very complex and is just idle speculation on your part. Who has time? Not me. I reject M. Hoffman altogether and I already told you why. He’s basically saying Hitler’s and Germany’s objective should have been different than it was, and if so, things might have gone better for them. Stupid.

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @R2b

    Thanks. Michael Hoffman is not a military expert, not by any stretch of the imagination. What he has done in this book is read a number of Hitler-critical opinions on a variety of topics, the war being one, and put together from that his "arguments" in his own book. There is nothing new here, no original thinking. It's just a hit piece that flopped and that's why he's held off on writing the "sequel" or book #2 that he had planned.

    What do either you or Hoffman know about what was in Hitler's mind, or in his General's minds, in 1940-41? Nothing. So why would I waste my time getting into a discussion with you. Your last line above is is truly idiotic - even I can tell that. Their (German's) purpose was not to "endure," but to put the Soviet Union out of business.

    Replies: @R2b

    Thank you.
    I am surely not suggesting I now the minds of der führer, or his Generals.
    Two of whom I heard of, most certainly was military geniuses: Guderian and von Manstein.
    There are also of course inumerable good and sincere soldiers, of German extraction, that I respect!
    As Alexandros stated though, the whole thing was lost from the beginning.
    He says, ”were we are now”, they would have been without fighting, that is submit.
    So it was a gamble, then, and no good prospect.
    The question must be, and I agree with Hoffman posing it, what would have happened if Germany hadn’t overstretched itself?
    As for oil supply, wouldn’t a smaller, more defensive front, require less?
    Would that perhaps opened for a lot of other poissbilities?
    I would like to say to this, that l have read Joachim Hoffman, and think he has a strong argument.
    But then again, for good will, what would a defensive instead of an aggressor role have given?
    Anyway, I’m iterating, asking, searching, curious for different views, and by no means on anybodys side.

    • Replies:@Carolyn Yeager
    @R2b


    Two of whomI heard of, most certainly was military geniuses: Guderian and von Manstein.
     
    You don't even know if they were military geniuses, you only 'heard of them.' Hitler had as many successes as they did (they also had losses) so why were they geniuses and Hitler was not? Their memoirs are self-serving.

    You don't know enough about any of this to discuss it. It's very complex and is just idle speculation on your part. Who has time? Not me. I reject M. Hoffman altogether and I already told you why. He's basically saying Hitler's and Germany's objective should have been different than it was, and if so, things might have gone better for them. Stupid.
  • @Bogus Rogus
    @Juckett

    Hail Odin! O mighty Zeus, show us the path that is righteous!

    Replies: @Poco

    Must we worship? Isn’t it enough to acknowledge that we are puny creatures faced with an infinity we can neither understand nor combat. I believe there is a creator but I’ll not grovel. He understands that and doesn’t require my debasement. Personal acknowledgement, thanks, and understanding is all that is required. Getting on my knees and whining isn’t acceptable. God detests it as well.

  • @R2b
    The opinion is, as I percieve it after reading Hoffman’s book, that they, the German army (Ostheer), were not strong enough for the task they set up. That is; penetrating Russia’s vast areas on a broad front, and take Moscow.
    So, the argument goes further, they, the German army, should have awaited the Russian attack.
    On a smaller front, and with supply close, they would have had a better chance to endure.

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

    Thanks. Michael Hoffman is not a military expert, not by any stretch of the imagination. What he has done in this book is read a number of Hitler-critical opinions on a variety of topics, the war being one, and put together from that his “arguments” in his own book. There is nothing new here, no original thinking. It’s just a hit piece that flopped and that’s why he’s held off on writing the “sequel” or book #2 that he had planned.

    What do either you or Hoffman know about what was in Hitler’s mind, or in his General’s minds, in 1940-41? Nothing. So why would I waste my time getting into a discussion with you. Your last line above is is truly idiotic – even I can tell that. Their (German’s) purpose was not to “endure,” but to put the Soviet Union out of business.

    • Replies:@R2b
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Thank you.
    I am surely not suggesting I now the minds of der führer, or his Generals.
    Two of whom I heard of, most certainly was military geniuses: Guderian and von Manstein.
    There are also of course inumerable good and sincere soldiers, of German extraction, that I respect!
    As Alexandros stated though, the whole thing was lost from the beginning.
    He says, ”were we are now”, they would have been without fighting, that is submit.
    So it was a gamble, then, and no good prospect.
    The question must be, and I agree with Hoffman posing it, what would have happened if Germany hadn’t overstretched itself?
    As for oil supply, wouldn’t a smaller, more defensive front, require less?
    Would that perhaps opened for a lot of other poissbilities?
    I would like to say to this, that l have read Joachim Hoffman, and think he has a strong argument.
    But then again, for good will, what would a defensive instead of an aggressor role have given?
    Anyway, I’m iterating, asking, searching, curious for different views, and by no means on anybodys side.

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

  • Dear Michael Hoffman, This article is a must read for the security and safety of gentile nation states (including at the social interpersonal level) because this is worst than Jewish-bolshevism’s totalitarian regime (more akin to heathenish satanical) where the modus operandi against entire gentile nations include clandestine unethical attacks through daily social interactions that are inculcated since birth to subvert gentile nations/populations/state. It’s covert mode becomes apparent only if it’s influence gets to be unaccountable, and these things irrefutably constitutes the synagogue of satan. Here is the biblical foundation. It was He (and still is, The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth) who declared “and the evil-speaking of those saying themselves to be Jews, and are not, but are a synagogue of the Adversary” (ourosboros, shekhinah, ein sof=satan).

    The religious Jews or the fig tree of pharisaical judaism trust in themselves. Their source was the fig tree of pharisaical judaism, self and ourousboros as their pharisaical judaism was their downfall. Just as the fig tree, paganistic pharisaical judaism, withered from the roots up, indeed, the religious Jews rotted from the inside-out. Then The Lord Christ Jesus answered and said to the fig tree (Talmudic pharisaical judaism) “NEVER man eat fruit of you hereafter WHILE THE WORLD STANDS. Rev 2:9, Mark 11:14.

    The paganistical, Babylonian, satanic, devices of superstitious talmudic-pharisaical-rabbinical=judaism=judaic-men do not only NOT fulfill the law/Word of God (as they blasphemously persuade themselves) but also do utterly take (reject) it away. What the gentile masses are censured from knowing and realizing is the truth that Judaism is paganistical, pharisaic, satanistic, supremacistic, Babylonic at its core and it irrefutably is none of the religion of the Old Testament prophets. Let us not confuse exposing the hatred of those who observe the malevolent binding contents of Talmudic-judaic passages against gentiles/heathens because since when supremacist oppression and subjugation offer not little value to a free and open gentile society? Since when is truth relative or since when truth amounts to six hundred and sixty six schemes of covert Babylonian Talmudic oppression, repression and subjugation against gentiles by/via beguilement? “For you reject (set away, cast/put aside apart, void and nullify) the Word/commandment of God for your [talmudic-Zohar. Kabbalah – tradition which is mere superstitious supernal refuse of traditions or pharisaical oral law consisting of occultism, self-worship, racist hatred for non-Jews,
    extra-nonbiblical superstitions which abode is from ourousboros’ abyss] man made tradition(s) of the elders (or oral law) that you delivered; and many such like things you do.” “Well do you put (aside, cast away) the Word/commandment of God to observe your own tradition” (known as talmudic-paganistic-rabbinical ‘tradition of the elders’ or oral law). Mark 7:9, Mark 7:13. Thus, this rabbinical-pharisaical oral law (=paganistic-Talmudic-pharisaic Judaism) is irrefutably, and explicitly condemned — by the ONE whom even Moses spoke of, declared,and foretold; The Lord Jesus Christ — as counterfeit.

    • Replies:@Alejandro Grace Ararat
    @Alejandro Grace Ararat

    I have unfortunately seen the black community adjudicating the intelectual ideas of what others write, and create and pass them as their own in shows, interviews, media segments, YouTube videos of any length, when it was not their intelectual ideas they are regurgitating ........it’s undeniable they took the ideas from my original comments and they think no one will notice:::: as I saw your interview Link to the 90-minute televised conversation with Steven Muhammad and historian Ilia Rashad. It is obvious they read the original comment I posted on this thread and then they decided to take the content of comment as their own when it did not came from them in the first place. The intelectual property in written or speech/verbal form is not a copy-cat thing. Since when the contents of a neighbor’s intelectual property (comment, letter book) a thing to be copied-cat? And then turn its contents into and a video format to follow? Such things are not ethical much less morally right to express them as if they were the originators of such observations and I have seen these mode of acting by many many in the black community. They should not pretend to be the originators and expand on the intelectual property of one’s neighbor. — Alejandro Grace Ararat

    ,@Alejandro Grace Ararat
    @Alejandro Grace Ararat

    Since when the contents of a neighbor’s intelectual property (writings, speech, remarks, comment(s) published on social media) a thing to be
    copy-cated/copied-cat?

    -Alejandro Grace Ararat

  • @Alexandros

    The opinion is, as I percieve it after reading Hoffman’s book, that they, the German army (Ostheer), were not strong enough for the task they set up. That is; penetrating Russia’s vast areas on a broad front, and take Moscow.
    So, the argument goes further, they, the German army, should have awaited the Russian attack.
    On a smaller front, and with supply close, they would have had a better chance to endure.
     
    Never a shortage of armchair generals thinking they can perform miracles.

    Shorter front means shorter front for the USSR too. The ability to supply the front means little when your oil in Romania is hijacked by the enemy. Holding out will be a futile exercise when you are attacked in the North, the West, the South and the East by vastly superior resources.

    The German war plan was close to optimal. It just wasn't enough. The only other choice was to submit, which would only leave them right where they are now.

    Replies: @R2b

    Herr general, you offer only two solutions!
    What about a third, defensive, non-submissive?

  • The opinion is, as I percieve it after reading Hoffman’s book, that they, the German army (Ostheer), were not strong enough for the task they set up. That is; penetrating Russia’s vast areas on a broad front, and take Moscow.
    So, the argument goes further, they, the German army, should have awaited the Russian attack.
    On a smaller front, and with supply close, they would have had a better chance to endure.

    Never a shortage of armchair generals thinking they can perform miracles.

    Shorter front means shorter front for the USSR too. The ability to supply the front means little when your oil in Romania is hijacked by the enemy. Holding out will be a futile exercise when you are attacked in the North, the West, the South and the East by vastly superior resources.

    The German war plan was close to optimal. It just wasn’t enough. The only other choice was to submit, which would only leave them right where they are now.

    • Replies:@R2b
    @Alexandros

    Herr general, you offer only two solutions!
    What about a third, defensive, non-submissive?

  • The opinion is, as I percieve it after reading Hoffman’s book, that they, the German army (Ostheer), were not strong enough for the task they set up. That is; penetrating Russia’s vast areas on a broad front, and take Moscow.
    So, the argument goes further, they, the German army, should have awaited the Russian attack.
    On a smaller front, and with supply close, they would have had a better chance to endure.

    • Replies:@Carolyn Yeager
    @R2b

    Thanks. Michael Hoffman is not a military expert, not by any stretch of the imagination. What he has done in this book is read a number of Hitler-critical opinions on a variety of topics, the war being one, and put together from that his "arguments" in his own book. There is nothing new here, no original thinking. It's just a hit piece that flopped and that's why he's held off on writing the "sequel" or book #2 that he had planned.

    What do either you or Hoffman know about what was in Hitler's mind, or in his General's minds, in 1940-41? Nothing. So why would I waste my time getting into a discussion with you. Your last line above is is truly idiotic - even I can tell that. Their (German's) purpose was not to "endure," but to put the Soviet Union out of business.

    Replies: @R2b

  • @R2b
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Isn’t the objection reasonable, which Hoffman conveys, that Germany should have kept a low offensive profile towards Russia, or even a defensive one?

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

    On what grounds did Hoffman object “that Germany should have kept a low offensive profile towards Russia, or even a defensive one.” What does he mean by ‘a low offensive profile?’

    Excuse me, but I have not read his book, but only the Introduction which sets the tone.

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @Rogue

    I think this is the third time you've repeated the same thing. Apparently it's all you know and all you can say, but it amounts only to what you've picked up in passing, not anything you've studied in depth.


    for absolute sure [Hitler] was a disaster for Germany.

     
    Fact: Germany was already experiencing disaster when Hitler entered the scene and no one knew how to fix it. Isn't that correct? Do you know, or can you say (or David Irving or M. Hoffman) how things would have turned out for Germany if Hitler had been killed or ousted by the Left wing of the NSDAP led by Gregor (and Otto) Strasser? Would disaster have been averted? If you say yes, you're lying. It may have led to an eventual Soviet takeover.

    The US, UK and France were already out to destroy Germany as a leading nationbefore the Great War took place (1914-18). AH took on the mission to save Germans from this fate of Jewish domination. His onlyalternative was to go along with Jewish rule, as the others were doing. Indeed, this was a big GAMBLE. In the end, Germany was overwhelmed by these evil forces, but not before showing the world what heroism looked like, what superior humanity looks like -- an inspiring and hugely popular vision that hasn't been defeated yet, 80 years on, despite every attempt to obliterate it. That's success, and perhaps all that could have been achieved considering the state of human development.

    I notice you "Agreed" with JamesinNM above (Sept. 25, 12:32 am) who suggests the 'answer' lies at missiontoIsrael.org, a Christian Identity site. That tells me you connect with Michael Hoffman on the Christian angle but may not know that Hoffman intended to write a second book (part 2) to his "Adolf Hitler - Enemy of the German People," but it's poor reception and 'panning' caused him to cancel that plan. (Bad sales, I guess.) Your changed position could be a result of your conversion to CI or any other Christian perspective, and your peculiar understanding thereof.

    To your question: Yes, it was unconditional surrender. Hitler tried many times to work out an agreement for ending the fighting, including stepping down himself, but was always rebuffed. His German government knew well what the Allies, led by Jews, intended by unconditional surrender: no mercy at all. For you to ridicule that as "mean plans" shows you may not be what you're trying to pass yourself off as. I agree with Col General Jodl who stated at Nuremberg:

    "Then, to advise to surrender I did not. That was totally out of the question;no soldier would have done that; it would not have been of any value. [...] there were, in the winder of 1944, many reasons against it. [...] The capitulation required the standstill on the fronts at the spot where they were, and their capture by the adversaries who stood across the line. [...] Millions of prisoners had to camp in the middle of the winter in open fields. Death would have reaped an immense harvest, and above all, those nearly three and one-half million still standing at the eastern front would have fallen completely into the hands of the eastern adversary. It was our desire to bring as many people as possible to the west. One could do that only if the two fronts moved closer to each other. Those were the mainly military considerations we deliberated toward the end of the war."

     

    What considerations are you following in taking your cheap shots at these momentous and grave decisions for humanity and posterity? I do not hold silly or caricature views of Adolf Hitler; I hold respectful views. Your arrogance is based on ignorance.

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @Rogue, @R2b

    Isn’t the objection reasonable, which Hoffman conveys, that Germany should have kept a low offensive profile towards Russia, or even a defensive one?

    • Replies:@Carolyn Yeager
    @R2b

    On what grounds did Hoffman object "that Germany should have kept a low offensive profile towards Russia, or even a defensive one." What does he mean by 'a low offensive profile?'

    Excuse me, but I have not read his book, but only the Introduction which sets the tone.

  • @Johnny Rico
    @Wyatt

    They didn't elect him. He was appointed by Hindenburg and he and the Nazi party only enjoyed 33-37% support. The enabling act had just been passed and Germany was on the verge of civil war. Things could easily have turned out differently.

    But I admire your ability to go from zero to Godwin's law in 60 seconds flat.

    Replies: @noname27, @Ugetit, @Alexandros

    Appointed because they won the election. Made dictator by vote from the Reichstag. In what universe is this not being elected? It’s not exactly Gerald Ford appointing Nelson Rockefeller VP out of nowhere.

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @Rogue

    Hoffman is jew-serving because he attacks Hitler with known lies and smears, which is the province of the jews and only helps jews.

    You are repeating a lot of stuff without knowing anything about it. To call Hitler "a gambler" doesn't mean a thing. What successful war leader doesn't take gambles? And historians are not all brilliant, certainly Irving has many flaws, is not above making things up.

    You're mistaken that "Suvorov's thesis isalmost certainly BS" -- the broad consensus is that he is correct. And what do you mean by "almost certainly." You mean that you don't know and are just trying to cover your ass.

    I wonder if you're aware that Michael Hoffman bases his critique of AH on the false claim that Hitler was an "occultist"; that the NSDAP was full of occultists. Hoffman copies directly from 3rd rate propagandists like Jim Condit, Jr. and Jim's discredited sources of information. Hoffman's book "AH - Enemy of the German People" is such a joke that one has to wonder why Hoffman risks his carefully cultivated reputation as a serious "scholar" on such trashy material. I can only think he just wants or needs to make money - and we all know that Hitler sells. If it's not for money, then it's because he's a Jew.
    https://carolynyeager.net/saturday-afternoon-roots-myth-national-socialisms-occult-roots

    Replies: @Rogue, @Adûnâi

    > “https://carolynyeager.net/saturday-afternoon-roots-myth-national-socialisms-occult-roots”

    I barely ever listened to any of your idealist (aka: schizo Christian) podcasts, but what I am horrified at is that you, with all your love for Hitler over the decades, have not bothered to learn a few easy rules for German pronunciation. I am appalled that you pronounce VOLK as “wolk” and not /folk/, Germanen as “jirmanen”… At least, Savitri spoke French, German, English, Bengali, Hindi…
    http://savitridevi.com/M&R_chapter_1.html
    http://savitridevi.com/M&R_chapter_11.html

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  • @Polemos
    @Loup-Bouc


    The answer is obvious everywhere non-human animal life has not suffered human intrusion. The same answer has been obvious for all the brief time Homo sapiens has existed and for about 550 million years before.
     
    When Robert Whatever asked an open question about a possibly observable phenomenon among Jews, you challenged him with the following:

    Surely you can support your question’s premising assertion with a valid, reliable study done in the 21st century and performed on a truly random sample of at least 40% of the entire world’s adult Jewish population.

    How would the study-designers determine, validly and reliably, which “Jews” were JEWS?

    What would be the study-validating, outcome-reliability-assuring, necessary, non-biasing questions the study must have asked the subjects?
     
    When asked a much simpler version of the kinds of questions you raise here, "How didyou determinethe truth of your claim that animals do not have nor hallucinate gods or a divine aspect of their existences or an overall design to their greater universe?", you asked the person asking the question how they were born such an idiot. That's not an engagement seeking truth, wisdom, or reconciliation. You had an opportunity to demonstrate how a person follow the steps you took to arrive at your conclusions — why else would you link us to information also accessible on the Web and further advise us to also pursue the sources and citations made on those pages, if not to educate us and help us to come to the same conclusions you did?

    But you instead choose —choose — to treat other people as idiots and ridiculous and beneath you, with clear contempt for them because they havea different perspective, while you also try to further elevate your moral and discursive positions by pointing out that you are a great volunteer for the unjustly accused and a healer and advocate for the exploited animals and ill-treated kin. Whom do you unjustly accuse? Whom do you exploit? Whom do you treat ill when you come to comment? Who will protect us from you, if you are unwilling to let down your own guards and defenses and love your fellow commentors as yourself? And will they also post comments in multiple languages and styles, too?

    So, you could take the measure by which you beat down other commentors' opinions and views and demonstratehow it is obvious to you, a human, that it is obviousto you what "non-human animal life" is like without you, a human, moving into their spaces in which they previously had "not suffered human intrusion" without yourself suffering those animals through your intrusions. Such an answer brings forth a helpful account of one's latent first principles as well as experiential connection to one's conceptions, and when done with open regard for decency or compassion, changes minds and hearts.

    Or, you could continue to avoid your own inconsistencies and contradictions in a similarly revealing though less humbling manner. Because, as it stands, when you say that science "is a largely egotistical enterprise of a puny species enamored by itself so much that it cannot perceive the error-engendering effects of its arrogance," I put it to you that your non-conscious selves want you to listen carefully and responsibly to what you are trying to put into the world and reconcile that with your own behavior and intrusion into these spaces.

    You cannot really change any hearts and minds if you are unwilling to demonstrate the epistemic power ofcharity to overcome the social dysfunction ofego. Everything you think you are doing through comments to an essay on this website is useless waste if you have an intention to motivate others to improve our shared world or nurture a shared culture that pursues mutual improvement and reciprocal worth but adopt a style that reflects more your own internal spiritual struggle exploiting other people's easiest mistakes or their ignorance. There are some commentors who are clearly doing all this for their own gratification or the amusement of others. Is that you? Perhaps some part, but I could not square the honesty of that with your zeal and high principled stands for proper citation, proper structure, and proper understanding. You mar your beauty when you act so petty.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    Emendation of my comment of September 29, 2020 at 10:32 pm GMT, which replied to your comment of September 29, 2020 at 4:45 pm GMT (comment # 300):

    After I clicked on the “Publish Comment” button to post my above-referenced September 29, 2020 at 10:32 pm GMT comment and seconds before the 5-minute editing period ended, I noticed an editing error that caused a grammar-error. The error is in this paragraph:

    Humanity’s overwhelming majority have done nothing of merit or have wrought (or not resisted) endless, mammoth harm, destruction, pain, horror, depredation — and, worst, massive slaughter, torture, enslavement, habitat-ruination……even annihilation of the innocents of Earth, Earth’s birds, non-human beasts, and other non-human creatures.

    The error is an apparent number-disagreement — “have” (occurring twice) where the grammatically correct term would be “has.” Here is a corrected edition of the same paragraph:

    Humanity’s overwhelming majorityhas done nothing of merit orhas wrought (or not resisted) endless, mammoth harm, destruction, pain, horror, depredation — and, worst, massive slaughter, torture, enslavement, habitat-ruination……even annihilation of the innocents of Earth, Earth’s birds, non-human beasts, and other non-human creatures.

  • I cannot spare time enough to proofread the following text. I commit typing/editing errors. I apologize now for any typing or editing errors that may trouble the following text.

    You wrote:

    When asked a much simpler version of the kinds of questions you raise here, “How did you determine the truth of your claim that animals do not have nor hallucinate gods or a divine aspect of their existences or an overall design to their greater universe?”, you asked the person asking the question how they were born such an idiot.

    “…you asked the person…”? Why do you reference yourself with third-person grammar? Do you deem yourself a monarch? Or are you just nuts?

    You deserved my question-form answer [“How were you born such an idiot?”]. Your question was an absurd display of mental blindness or a silly attempt of sparring with me on a risibly absurd premise, or both. See my comment of September 28, 2020 at 9:06 pm GMT (comment # 289),https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4191281

    For you comment to which this comment replies, you deserve a similar response. But, this final time, I shall oblige your desire that I recognize your existence as if it were that of a creature deserving kindness and respect.

    * [Side-Note
    (a)Respect: A human must EARN respect; you have not, but earned not better than disregard. My dog and my wife love and respect me. I earned the respect of my respectable colleagues; and I care not for the regard of others. My dogs have respected me; and I have loved and honored my dogs.

    (b)Kindness: Kindness is evidence of capable of evil. For, if kindness occurs, goodness does not exist. See my comment of September 23, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT (comment # 36),https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4180855 .

    With quite enough comments, I have shown I am virtually a misanthrope. Humanity is the bane of Earth. Were humanity eliminated magically without any harm of the rest of Earth’s life (vegetable and animal) or harm of Earth’s resources, Earth’s life would live infinitely better lives.

    Some few humans have produced good or beauty and done no harm — e.g., Johann Sebastian Bach (whose music sufficed so that if no other music occurred ever, still our ears would have all of the best of enthralling sonic art) and Lao Tzu (his Tao Te Ching, itsphilosophy, NOT the religion “Taoism).

    But Bach and Lao Tzu were very rare rarities. Humanity’s overwhelming majority have done nothing of merit or have wrought (or not resisted) endless, mammoth harm, destruction, pain, horror, depredation — and, worst, massive slaughter, torture, enslavement, habitat-ruination……even annihilation of the innocents of Earth, Earth’s birds, non-human beasts, and other non-human creatures.
    End Side-Note]

    Your comment consists of much goopy blather, redundancy, preachy hogwash, and unbearably long, ill-constructed paragraphs all presuming to “change” my “heart” and “mind” so that I shall become a patient, kindly gentleman who tries to “see” the “good” that may live, or hide, in others, albeit they are emotionally hard-warped neurotics, character neurotics, emotional plague ridden, or psychopaths. I shall not respond to more of your comments

    You wrote:

    You cannot really change any hearts and minds if you are unwilling to demonstrate the epistemic power of charity to overcome the social dysfunction of ego.

    What distinguishes “really change” from “change” or “any hearts” or “any minds” from “hearts” or “minds”? “[E]pistemic power”? What pretentious dross. What pseudo-intelligent dreck may be costumed in such puff?

    I do not try to “change” “hearts” with my comments. I limit my heart-treatments to curing or mitigating cardiovascular disease, which I treat near-exclusively with dietary medicine (occasionally supplemented with Chinese herbs) —never with means that involve killing, hurting, torturing, or using non-human creatures.

    I do not try tochange minds with my comments. No one can change another’s mind. But, some few minds are not quite fixed. Their perceptions are open or somewhat malleable.

    Mostly, I present evidence, facts, analyses, arguments and various observations that that (a) expose the psychopathy-or-emotional-plague sourced false premises and specious arguments put in Unz Review articles and comments and (b) impeach the credibility of those who put such false premises and specious arguments.

    Sometimes my credibility-impeachments involve language-impeachment or logic-deconstruction designed to show that the impeachment-subject’s cerebration is flawed enough to render the subject’s premises or argument’s unreliable. If a comment’s incorrigible idiocy or a commenter’s intractable stupidity, apparent psychopathy, or emotional plague exasperates me, my reaction may reduce to criticisms of grammar, diction, or punctuation (though I avoid criticizing flaws that seem typing errors) or evenad hominem slams.

    Decades ago, I underwent Orgonomic psychotherapy. Serendipitously, I had seen I had been deprived of capacity of love and being loved because of the fear and hard “emotional armoring” my parents gifted me with years of beyond-Dickensian physical abuse, disregard, sexual repression, and abandonment. I interviewed several Orgonomic psychiatrists. I chose Dr. Morton Herskowitz, because I saw he was the only one I could not manipulate.

    Doctor Herskowitz? See,e.g., Morton Herskowitz, Emotional Armoring: An Introduction to Psychiatric Orgone Therapy (LIT Verlag Münster 1997), ISBN 3825835553, 9783825835552 .

    I recall, gratefully, Dr. Herskowitz’s barkingmany times: “Shut up and [do this or that grueling physical action], or “Do not try that crap on me, just……”

    Wilhelm Reich was Dr. Herskowitz’s training therapist. To receive Reich’s training therapy, Dr. Herskowitz had to drive from Philadelphia PA to Orgonon, Maine, a distance of about 540 miles, on the old U.S. Route 1 and State-of-Maine roads, years before the advent of the Interstate Highway system.

    In an interview conducted by a journalist of the Philadelphia Inquirer (when that paper was not yet a fake news engine), the interviewer asked Dr. Herskowitz: “How could you endure making that trip week after week even in winter and through the harsh driving conditions of New England and, worse, northeast Maine?” Dr. Herskowitz replied: “If a patient will not endure such travail to attain psychic health, he does not deserve therapy.”

    Birds and non-human beasts (of land and sea) must do or die. An alpha wolf or mated Canada goose will fight anything to the death to save his mate. A mountain goat will brave ricocheting down the jagged walls of an Alpine crevasse to avoid a predator or find food. D.H. Lawrence wrote:

    I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
    A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
    Without ever having felt sorry for itself.

    An aboriginal American tribe abides this saying:

    I am not interested in whether you buy your child fine food or beautiful clothes or house it in a glorious mansion.

    I am interested in whether, if you suffer pneumonia and a 104 degree temperature and great pain, still you will leave your bed and go to your crying child and cradle it in your arms and sing it to sleep.

    I have no time for horse-shit, especially when it is spewed by psychopaths and emotional plague people.

    I am blunt, immodest, and ruthless. I do not care, even a whit, for what others (except my wife) may think of me.

    I am a beast. But like a beast, I am good as I am good,mindlessly. And, like a beast, I ammindlessly loyal and loving to other beasts, like my wife and my dog.Mindlessly, I would fight anything to the death to save my wife or dog. Ihave risked my life to save my sweet dog-son. More than a few times,mindlessly I have risked my life or freedom to savestrangers, but afterwards did not care for their lives. Again see my comment of September 23, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT (comment # 36),https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4180855 .

    But you, Polemos, deserve nought better than disregard, which I shall accord you henceforth.

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Polemos

    This comment related to:
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4187800
    AND
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4188067
    AND
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4191103

    The answer is obvious everywhere non-human animal life has not suffered human intrusion. The same answer has been obvious for all the brief time Homo sapiens has existed and for about 550 million years before.

    You are blind.

    And you seem to abide, agree with, or have joined certain religious psychopaths [Zionist Orthodox Jews] and their psychopathic society, politics, and religion:
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4191162

    Replies: @Polemos

    The answer is obvious everywhere non-human animal life has not suffered human intrusion. The same answer has been obvious for all the brief time Homo sapiens has existed and for about 550 million years before.

    When Robert Whatever asked an open question about a possibly observable phenomenon among Jews, you challenged him with the following:

    Surely you can support your question’s premising assertion with a valid, reliable study done in the 21st century and performed on a truly random sample of at least 40% of the entire world’s adult Jewish population.

    How would the study-designers determine, validly and reliably, which “Jews” were JEWS?

    What would be the study-validating, outcome-reliability-assuring, necessary, non-biasing questions the study must have asked the subjects?

    When asked a much simpler version of the kinds of questions you raise here, “How didyou determinethe truth of your claim that animals do not have nor hallucinate gods or a divine aspect of their existences or an overall design to their greater universe?”, you asked the person asking the question how they were born such an idiot. That’s not an engagement seeking truth, wisdom, or reconciliation. You had an opportunity to demonstrate how a person follow the steps you took to arrive at your conclusions — why else would you link us to information also accessible on the Web and further advise us to also pursue the sources and citations made on those pages, if not to educate us and help us to come to the same conclusions you did?

    But you instead choose —choose — to treat other people as idiots and ridiculous and beneath you, with clear contempt for them because they havea different perspective, while you also try to further elevate your moral and discursive positions by pointing out that you are a great volunteer for the unjustly accused and a healer and advocate for the exploited animals and ill-treated kin. Whom do you unjustly accuse? Whom do you exploit? Whom do you treat ill when you come to comment? Who will protect us from you, if you are unwilling to let down your own guards and defenses and love your fellow commentors as yourself? And will they also post comments in multiple languages and styles, too?

    So, you could take the measure by which you beat down other commentors’ opinions and views and demonstratehow it is obvious to you, a human, that it is obviousto you what “non-human animal life” is like without you, a human, moving into their spaces in which they previously had “not suffered human intrusion” without yourself suffering those animals through your intrusions. Such an answer brings forth a helpful account of one’s latent first principles as well as experiential connection to one’s conceptions, and when done with open regard for decency or compassion, changes minds and hearts.

    Or, you could continue to avoid your own inconsistencies and contradictions in a similarly revealing though less humbling manner. Because, as it stands, when you say that science “is a largely egotistical enterprise of a puny species enamored by itself so much that it cannot perceive the error-engendering effects of its arrogance,” I put it to you that your non-conscious selves want you to listen carefully and responsibly to what you are trying to put into the world and reconcile that with your own behavior and intrusion into these spaces.

    You cannot really change any hearts and minds if you are unwilling to demonstrate the epistemic power ofcharity to overcome the social dysfunction ofego. Everything you think you are doing through comments to an essay on this website is useless waste if you have an intention to motivate others to improve our shared world or nurture a shared culture that pursues mutual improvement and reciprocal worth but adopt a style that reflects more your own internal spiritual struggle exploiting other people’s easiest mistakes or their ignorance. There are some commentors who are clearly doing all this for their own gratification or the amusement of others. Is that you? Perhaps some part, but I could not square the honesty of that with your zeal and high principled stands for proper citation, proper structure, and proper understanding. You mar your beauty when you act so petty.

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Polemos

    Emendation of my comment of September 29, 2020 at 10:32 pm GMT, which replied to your comment of September 29, 2020 at 4:45 pm GMT (comment # 300):

    After I clicked on the "Publish Comment" button to post my above-referenced September 29, 2020 at 10:32 pm GMT comment and seconds before the 5-minute editing period ended, I noticed an editing error that caused a grammar-error. The error is in this paragraph:


    Humanity’s overwhelming majority have done nothing of merit or have wrought (or not resisted) endless, mammoth harm, destruction, pain, horror, depredation — and, worst, massive slaughter, torture, enslavement, habitat-ruination……even annihilation of the innocents of Earth, Earth’s birds, non-human beasts, and other non-human creatures.
     
    The error is an apparent number-disagreement — "have" (occurring twice) where the grammatically correct term would be "has." Here is a corrected edition of the same paragraph:

    Humanity’s overwhelming majorityhas done nothing of merit orhas wrought (or not resisted) endless, mammoth harm, destruction, pain, horror, depredation — and, worst, massive slaughter, torture, enslavement, habitat-ruination……even annihilation of the innocents of Earth, Earth’s birds, non-human beasts, and other non-human creatures.
     
  • @geokat62
    @Fran Taubman


    He ate beans an all othernutrias foods
     
    Interesting diet, Fran. Did you father reside in South America?

    nutrias
    a large semiaquatic rodent resembling a beaver, native to South America. It is kept in captivity for its fur and has become naturalized in many other areas.
     

    Replies: @Fran Taubman

    Yeah I totally missed that. Everyone is entitled to a bad posting now and then. Does not erase what a total goof ball Loopy is.

    • Agree:Poco
  • @Agathoklis
    Contrast this stuff with the clarity, directness, accessibility and universality of the best of Greek (and Roman) philosophy. There is simply no contest.

    Replies: @Tsigantes

    Contrast this stuff with the clarity, directness, accessibility and universality of the best of Greek (and Roman) philosophy. There is simply no contest.

    Bravo. You go right to the point.
    There is no philosophy nor even theology in judaism.
    It has nothing to offer of universal or civilisational value to the world.
    It is not even a religion.

    Judaism’s purpose is to maintain control over its tribe,
    subjugating them with rules – which they dignify as “laws” [their own] .
    A tribe kept in fear by tales of hate, commanded to hate.
    A tribe used and sacrificed by its chiefs. A tribe instructed
    by its rules [“laws”] to break moral, national and international law
    to profit / aid the group.

    In sum, a cult internally, a mafia externally.
    A terrible situation for its adherents and a problem for us.

  • 2 Commandments met with them worshipping the Golden Calf—back up the mountain for another 8. “We want Barabbas” – and Barabbas was a thief. Third strkc -” He saved others but can not save Himself”? “My ways are not your ways”—-

  • @MrVoid
    @Loup-Bouc


    The “Chosen People” are not unique. Many human groups — “primitive” or “civilized” — have invented a God or Gods or “Great Spirit” or…….. to do their bidding or to justify or excuse their cruel or evil deeds.
     
    You're basically overcrediting religion. Take away the religious trappings and people still behave similarly. Something like 50% of Jews now claim to be non-religious but that doesn't seem to do an awful lot in the way of diminishing their attachment to their otherwise malignant culture. If you want to be realistic you have to view the behavior of any human group as a complex thing involving many variables. There is an irony here because isolating one variable and declaring it to be the root of all evil sounds an awful lot like simplistic religious thinking.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    Sorry: I neglected to indicate that I addressed to YOU my comment of September 29, 2020 at 3:02 am GMT (comment # 292).

  • @Fran Taubman
    @Loup-Bouc

    That explains Loopy why you are such a freaking nut job. My father was a wonderful human being and father. He ate beans an all other nutrias foods, and never met a moon person he did not like.
    You are a real legend in your own lunch box.

    Replies: @geokat62, @Loup-Bouc

    As usual, your do not read, but your psychopathy edits and adds words to create the meaning it demands.

    I am not my father. I eat beans. Pythagoras was a lunatic, brilliant, but bonkers. Your comment bears zero relation to anything I have said ever at Unz Review.

    Also “nutrias” is not an English language word, at least not a word related to nutrition. Or did your father eat swamp rats?
    *https://www.livescience.com/nutria.html
    *https://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/aquatic/fish-and-other-vertebrates/nutria
    *https://californiaagtoday.com/nutria-swamp-rats-need-control/

    My father was a wonderful human being and father.

    Your opinion does not determine whether your father was wonderful, or even a human being. [The Sioux insisted that only Sioux and Cheyenne were Human Beings, all the rest (humans and other animals) being “Wasichu.”]

    I fail to divine the purpose of your assertion that your “father was…a father,” a statement that parallels A = A. Do you doubt that your “father” was a man whose sperm fertilized an ovam (human or other)?

  • @Fran Taubman
    @Loup-Bouc

    That explains Loopy why you are such a freaking nut job. My father was a wonderful human being and father. He ate beans an all other nutrias foods, and never met a moon person he did not like.
    You are a real legend in your own lunch box.

    Replies: @geokat62, @Loup-Bouc

    He ate beans an all othernutrias foods

    Interesting diet, Fran. Did you father reside in South America?

    nutrias
    a large semiaquatic rodent resembling a beaver, native to South America. It is kept in captivity for its fur and has become naturalized in many other areas.

    • Replies:@Fran Taubman
    @geokat62

    Yeah I totally missed that. Everyone is entitled to a bad posting now and then. Does not erase what a total goof ball Loopy is.

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @jacobs-adder

    I thank you for decodifying @Rogue's term "past history" with a puzzle of the occult.

    Because you may have steeped yourself in occultism, you may enjoy reading Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky’s “THE SECRET DOCTRINE,”
    https://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm

    My father — a brilliant, uneducated, religiously drunken, anatomically simian-like human — studied “THE SECRET DOCTRINE” near-daily. Like Pythagoras, my father would not eat beans because, like Pythagoras, my father believed beans were akin to humans, though, unlike Pythagoras, my father «knew» beans were “Moon people.”

    Replies: @Fran Taubman

    That explains Loopy why you are such a freaking nut job. My father was a wonderful human being and father. He ate beans an all other nutrias foods, and never met a moon person he did not like.
    You are a real legend in your own lunch box.

    • Replies:@geokat62
    @Fran Taubman


    He ate beans an all othernutrias foods
     
    Interesting diet, Fran. Did you father reside in South America?

    nutrias
    a large semiaquatic rodent resembling a beaver, native to South America. It is kept in captivity for its fur and has become naturalized in many other areas.
     

    Replies: @Fran Taubman

    ,@Loup-Bouc
    @Fran Taubman

    As usual, your do not read, but your psychopathy edits and adds words to create the meaning it demands.

    I am not my father. I eat beans. Pythagoras was a lunatic, brilliant, but bonkers. Your comment bears zero relation to anything I have said ever at Unz Review.

    Also "nutrias" is not an English language word, at least not a word related to nutrition. Or did your father eat swamp rats?
    * https://www.livescience.com/nutria.html
    * https://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/aquatic/fish-and-other-vertebrates/nutria
    * https://californiaagtoday.com/nutria-swamp-rats-need-control/


    My father was a wonderful human being and father.
     
    Your opinion does not determine whether your father was wonderful, or even a human being. [The Sioux insisted that only Sioux and Cheyenne were Human Beings, all the rest (humans and other animals) being "Wasichu."]

    I fail to divine the purpose of your assertion that your "father was...a father," a statement that parallels A = A. Do you doubt that your "father" was a man whose sperm fertilized an ovam (human or other)?

  • I cannot spare time enough to proofread the following text. I commit typing/editing errors. I apologize now for any typing or editing errors that may trouble the following text.

    You wrote:

    You’re basically overcrediting religion. Take away the religious trappings and people still behave similarly. Something like 50% of Jews now claim to be non-religious but that doesn’t seem to do an awful lot in the way of diminishing their attachment to their otherwise malignant culture.

    In my language that you quoted,nothing suggests I assert that a deity-involving religion explainsall human conduct or thought or evenall cruel or evil human behavior. Rather, I hold that seemingly endemic, surely epidemic, human psychic sickness explains all religion and that all religion is bred by and breeds psychic sickness, even pshchopathy and emotional plague.

    Religion occurs in two forms, not necessarily, but likely never, exclusive of each other:

    * (a) Religion rooted in fear of perceived threatening natural and supernatural forces. The fear and fearful perceptions produce personification or other symbols of the feared forces and myths and rules pursued per belief that somehow the believer can supplicate the personified or symbolized forces for mercy.

    * (b) Greed-driven religion. The believer(s) invent a deity or deities who will give the believers what they want or think they need if the believers sacrifice things to the deity or deities or follow the rules the believers invent but attribute to the deity or deities they invented.

    The latter religion-type [type (b)] involves fear of not getting what is wanted or perceive to be a need. The former [type (a)] involves a kind of greed — seeking things to which the believer considers he is not entitled but may be permitted if he supplicates the force he symbolized or rendered personified.

    Both religion-types involve rules that pretend to be, or to associate with, “morals,” sometimes called “moral” rules, usually much ritualized, though any reasonably intelligent, truly psychically healthy, fully empathic human would deem such rules IMMORAL. The “moral” is getting the “good” or protection one wants from the invented deity or deities, the rules are costs of acquisition. The rituals are magics that avoid or dispel natural barriers or induce the deity or deities to show mercy or grant wishes.

    RE: the immorality of “moral rules,” please see my comment of September 23, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT (comment # 36),https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4180855and see also the sources listed at the close of this comment.

    Neither religion-type (a) nor religion-type (b) must be formal, or followed by a societal group, or even followed by two or more humans. Either religion-type can be apersonal moral code of one individual; but, being a code, such moralcode is a set of rules of conduct. The personal moral code may be subliminal, not organized or expressible coherently; it may be merely a superego’sconsistent repression of certain aspirations of a weak ego.

    Often, like many formal religions, personal moral codes involve rituals. In extreme cases, the rituals may be counting certain numbers while one acts or evading break-lines of sidewalks or cleaning oneself in always-same elaborate ways involving many precise steps — a parallel of rituals of,e.g., Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox Christian, and Orthodox Jewish rites, a parallel that is very far from accidental. Perform the ritual correctly, and your God loves you, does not hate you, forgives you, does not threaten you: YOU ARE “MORAL,” “GOOD.”

    All rules, especially “moral” or legal rules, are pathological. All are bred by and breed psychic ills, often ingredients of psychopathy or emotional plague. Since all religions are constellations of “moral” rules, all religions are bred by and breed psychic pathology, often psychopathy or emotional plague. Again please see my comment of September 23, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT (comment # 36),https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4180855and see also the sources listed at the close of this comment.

    Most, if not all, religions and their rules derive from sexual repression — including, and especially, repression of childhood sexuality, but also importantly, repression of early post-pubescent heterosexual sexuallove. The sexual repression is driven by the repressors’ and their religions’ codes of “moral” rules.

    * [Side-Note:
    I shall not address homosexuality or transgenderism, because both are symptoms of character neurosis; and I will not argue that matter with anyone, since all such argument is useless because of brainwashing by very sick liberals whos suffer and spread emotional plague.
    End Side-Note.]

    If you want to be realistic you have to view the behavior of any human group as a complex thing involving many variables. There is an irony here because isolating one variable and declaring it to be the root of all evil sounds an awful lot like simplistic religious thinking.

    Ironically, in the perception of idots who worship the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a person who believes one candefine psychic ills (even in quasi-slide-rule fashion), problematic behavior seems complex.

    To one who understands that specific psychic ills are not definable but submit only to being described with many thousands of words issues from rigorous therapeutic experience with a patient, religion-related/religion-explaining psychic ills are very simple and of immensely few species of origin, ultimately just ONE source. I have adumbrated that source above. At this comment’s close. are references that fill in the rest and render the matter clear.

    I have not asserted, or even intimated,ever, that religion is the “root of all evil.” Rather, psychic ills are the sources and fuels of all religions. Religions, and their “moral rules,” are bred by, thence breed, psychic ills, especially character neuroses, psychopathy, and emotional plague. Because of your serious misreadings (or misrepresentations??) of my statements, I add that I didNOT say, or even intimate, that religions, and their “moral rules,” are bred by, thence breed,ALL psychic ills.

    Againplease see my comment of September 23, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT (comment # 36),https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4180855
    AND COMPARE
    * Paul Radin, “Primitive Religion: Its Nature and Origin,”https://books.google.com/books/about/Primitive_religion.html?id=Cw4PAQAAMAAJ
    * James George Frazer, “The Golden Bough,”https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/408862.The_Golden_Bough
    * Wilhelm Reich, INVASION OF COMPULSORY SEX-MORALITY, excerpted here:https://www.wilhelmreichtrust.org/invasion_of_compulsory_sex-morality.pdf
    * THE EMOTIONAL PLAGUE,https://anarchy.org.au/anarchist-texts/reich-emotional-plague/ [full text of Chapter 16 of Wilhelm Reich, CHARACTER ANALYSIS (cited infra)
    * Wilhelm Reich, The Murder of Christ: The Emotional Plague of Mankind, ISBN-13: 978-0374504762, ISBN-10: 0374504768 (Farrar, Straus, and Giroux (1953), <bexcerpted athttps://www.amazon.com/Murder-Christ-Emotional-Plague-Mankind/dp/0374504768/ref=pd_bxgy_2/132-8804494-8788735?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0374504768&pd_rd_r=f9e2a012-76d0-457e-b475-a67c150341d8&pd_rd_w=ZjFDf&pd_rd_wg=xzcyp&pf_rd_p=ce6c479b-ef53-49a6-845b-bbbf35c28dd3&pf_rd_r=R5M1DZEB4BCBQSF3KRN8&psc=1&refRID=R5M1DZEB4BCBQSF3KRN8
    * Wilhelm Reich, PEOPLE IN TROUBLE PA (Emotional Plague of Mankind) (Farrar, Straus, and Giroux 1974), ISBN-10: 0374510350, ISBN-13: 978-0374510350, excerpted athttps://www.amazon.com/People-Trouble-Emotional-Plague-Mankind/dp/0374510350
    * Wilhelm Reich, Wilhelm Reich, CHARACTER ANALYSIS (Farrar, Straus, and Giroux 1972, paperback 1990), Paperback ISBN-13: 978-0-374-50!J8IJ–l, Paperback ISBN-lO: 0-:374-50980-8
    * Morton Herskowitz, Emotional Armoring: An Introduction to Psychiatric Orgone Therapy (LIT Verlag Münster 1997), ISBN 3825835553, 9783825835552, excerpted here:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=MGYRg7sCyLsC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepa
    * Wilhelm Reich, THE MASS PSYCHOLOGY OF FASCISM (Orgone Institute Press New York 1946),http://ouleft.org/wp-content/uploads/reich-fascism.pdf
    * Charles Konia,The Emotional Plague: The Root of Human Evil (Aco Press, 1st Ed. 2007) ISBN-10: 0967967031, ISBN-13: 978-0967967035, excerpted athttps://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Plague-Root-Human-Evil/dp/0967967031
    *https://www.orgonomy.org/articles/Science_Links/TJOG_42_2_extract_crist.pdf
    *http://wilhelmreich.gr/en/orgonomy/orgonomy-and-sociology/social-psychopathology/emotional-plague/

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree


    Talmudic Rabbis renounce God The Father’s authority over them and consider God subservient to them
     
    Yahweh's "Chosen People"invented Yahwehto be their servant.

    A “Chosen People” man sacrifices [kills] a sheep to Yahweh and Yahweh gives the “Chosen People” man what he wants.

    The “Chosen People” invoke Yahweh and obtain from Yahweh (their invention) a command that they [“Chosen People”] invade another people to take the other people's land and [per their invented Yahweh’s command] slaughter every man, woman, child,and beast of the invaded people and make the invaded people's land (part of) the “Promised Land” that their invented Yahweh promised them (per their fabrication). See,e.g., Tanakh Book of JoshuaBook of Joshua [Christian “Bible” Old Testament Book of Joshua].

    Cf. Laurent Guyénot, “The Devil’s Trick: Unmasking the God of Israel,” https://www.unz.com/article/the-devils-trick-unmasking-the-god-of-israel/

    Cf. also
    Goldman Sachs, the Rothschilds, and Zionism and Zionist Israel.

    The “Chosen People” are not unique. Many human groups — “primitive” or “civilized” — have invented a God or Gods or “Great Spirit” or........ to do their bidding or to justify or excuse their cruel or evil deeds.

    Genghis Khan invoked the “Blue Sky” or “Eternal Heaven” — the “Protector God” who gave the Mongols, hence Genghis Khan, a right of ruling the entire world. The Great Khan invoked the Protector God’s conquest-authority with the incantation “Mongke Tenggiri-yin Kucun-dur” [“By the Power of Eternal Heaven”].

    Marx was wrong. Religion is not the “opiate of the masses.” All religions, even personal moral codes, are pathological. Most are psychopathic or concoctions or devices of emotional plague.See also my comment of September 23, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT (comment # 36), https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4180855

    Replies: @MrVoid

    The “Chosen People” are not unique. Many human groups — “primitive” or “civilized” — have invented a God or Gods or “Great Spirit” or…….. to do their bidding or to justify or excuse their cruel or evil deeds.

    You’re basically overcrediting religion. Take away the religious trappings and people still behave similarly. Something like 50% of Jews now claim to be non-religious but that doesn’t seem to do an awful lot in the way of diminishing their attachment to their otherwise malignant culture. If you want to be realistic you have to view the behavior of any human group as a complex thing involving many variables. There is an irony here because isolating one variable and declaring it to be the root of all evil sounds an awful lot like simplistic religious thinking.

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @MrVoid

    Sorry: I neglected to indicate that I addressed to YOU my comment of September 29, 2020 at 3:02 am GMT (comment # 292).

  • @Polemos
    @Fran Taubman

    If he talkedwith animals, he might learn something of their ways, thinking, perspectives, and cultures. Plenty of people talkto animals, even as they squash them. Some of us have the patience to talk with animals and other non-human beings.

    But, given how quickly Loup-Bouc starts to insult people who challenge his claims and/or his self-assessments, it's evident he doesn't have that kind of patience to do so. What is evident is that he spends a lot of time talking with and writing for himself. It's always the other person who is at fault for having a different perspective, and you can see how one of his persistent ways of engaging with the perspectives of others is to say that the other person didn't read what he wrote and then he dishes out a lot of ridicule and attempts to humiliate the other, losing the plot along the way.

    A whole life of accomplishments — as our old friend will eventually remind us — and it is still not enough emotional security or personal valor for him to pass over gracefully our ignorant selves left wallowing in mud. How weighty are the pearls he throws at us, such swine! Perhaps I am so short-sighted, and maybe it is an honor that someone who has excelled in both law and medicine takes the time in his post-retirement to correct our grammar, call us names, and rub our faces in our own horse shit. He could be helping write the laws of his local community or volunteering as a CASA, using his life experiences for constructive and healthy ends to those neighbors and people who need him the most. But, instead, like the rest of us unemployed and innumerate, ungrammatical blockheads, he's here among us, —the animals.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    He could be helping write the laws of his local community or volunteering as a CASA, using his life experiences for constructive and healthy ends to those neighbors and people who need him the most. But, instead, like the rest of us unemployed and innumerate, ungrammatical blockheads, he’s here among us, —the animals.

    (1) I am not retired, but continue to practice both law and medicine.

    (2) I volunteer several hundred hours each year to free from prison and clear the names of people unjustly convicted of crimes they did not commit.

    (3) I provide medical caregratis, always. I became a physician to help people,gratis, avoid the gross malpractice of much of allopathy and homepathy.

    (4) Except eatingclearly non-sentient creatures (bi-valve molluscs), I do not eat, kill, harm, or use any non-human animals, even bugs (except to defend myself). I do not use products tested on animals.

    You are presumptuous, just as you are inclined to issue assertions lacking logic or tenable premise, even sometimes lacking ANY premise.

  • @Polemos
    @Loup-Bouc

    How was I born such an idiot?

    So, you don't have an answer to the question?

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    This comment related to:
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4187800
    AND
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4188067
    AND
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4191103

    The answer is obvious everywhere non-human animal life has not suffered human intrusion. The same answer has been obvious for all the brief time Homo sapiens has existed and for about 550 million years before.

    You are blind.

    And you seem to abide, agree with, or have joined certain religious psychopaths [Zionist Orthodox Jews] and their psychopathic society, politics, and religion:
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4191162

    • Replies:@Polemos
    @Loup-Bouc


    The answer is obvious everywhere non-human animal life has not suffered human intrusion. The same answer has been obvious for all the brief time Homo sapiens has existed and for about 550 million years before.
     
    When Robert Whatever asked an open question about a possibly observable phenomenon among Jews, you challenged him with the following:

    Surely you can support your question’s premising assertion with a valid, reliable study done in the 21st century and performed on a truly random sample of at least 40% of the entire world’s adult Jewish population.

    How would the study-designers determine, validly and reliably, which “Jews” were JEWS?

    What would be the study-validating, outcome-reliability-assuring, necessary, non-biasing questions the study must have asked the subjects?
     
    When asked a much simpler version of the kinds of questions you raise here, "How didyou determinethe truth of your claim that animals do not have nor hallucinate gods or a divine aspect of their existences or an overall design to their greater universe?", you asked the person asking the question how they were born such an idiot. That's not an engagement seeking truth, wisdom, or reconciliation. You had an opportunity to demonstrate how a person follow the steps you took to arrive at your conclusions — why else would you link us to information also accessible on the Web and further advise us to also pursue the sources and citations made on those pages, if not to educate us and help us to come to the same conclusions you did?

    But you instead choose —choose — to treat other people as idiots and ridiculous and beneath you, with clear contempt for them because they havea different perspective, while you also try to further elevate your moral and discursive positions by pointing out that you are a great volunteer for the unjustly accused and a healer and advocate for the exploited animals and ill-treated kin. Whom do you unjustly accuse? Whom do you exploit? Whom do you treat ill when you come to comment? Who will protect us from you, if you are unwilling to let down your own guards and defenses and love your fellow commentors as yourself? And will they also post comments in multiple languages and styles, too?

    So, you could take the measure by which you beat down other commentors' opinions and views and demonstratehow it is obvious to you, a human, that it is obviousto you what "non-human animal life" is like without you, a human, moving into their spaces in which they previously had "not suffered human intrusion" without yourself suffering those animals through your intrusions. Such an answer brings forth a helpful account of one's latent first principles as well as experiential connection to one's conceptions, and when done with open regard for decency or compassion, changes minds and hearts.

    Or, you could continue to avoid your own inconsistencies and contradictions in a similarly revealing though less humbling manner. Because, as it stands, when you say that science "is a largely egotistical enterprise of a puny species enamored by itself so much that it cannot perceive the error-engendering effects of its arrogance," I put it to you that your non-conscious selves want you to listen carefully and responsibly to what you are trying to put into the world and reconcile that with your own behavior and intrusion into these spaces.

    You cannot really change any hearts and minds if you are unwilling to demonstrate the epistemic power ofcharity to overcome the social dysfunction ofego. Everything you think you are doing through comments to an essay on this website is useless waste if you have an intention to motivate others to improve our shared world or nurture a shared culture that pursues mutual improvement and reciprocal worth but adopt a style that reflects more your own internal spiritual struggle exploiting other people's easiest mistakes or their ignorance. There are some commentors who are clearly doing all this for their own gratification or the amusement of others. Is that you? Perhaps some part, but I could not square the honesty of that with your zeal and high principled stands for proper citation, proper structure, and proper understanding. You mar your beauty when you act so petty.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

  • @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree
    Eternally precious takeaway:

    The oral traditions of the Pharisees is the foundation of the Talmud, as Jesus declared (cf. Mark 7; Matthew 15). Those traditions consist of extra-Biblical superstitions and occultism, self-worship, racist hatred for non-Jews and sheer nonsense.
     
    And just as God Incarnate Jesus renounced the tradition which was later reduced to writing as the Talmud, Talmudic Rabbis renounce God The Father's authority over them and consider God subservient to them:

    According to the Babylonian Talmud, God himself is subservient to the rabbis: “Since God already gave the Torah to the Jewish people on Mt. Sinai we no longer pay attention to heavenly voices. God must submit to the decisions of a majority vote of the rabbis.” (BT Bava Metzia 59b).
     
    Mr. Hoffman's courageous diligence enabling him to authoritatively state this conclusion is a service to both God and man, man including Jews/Judiacs ensnared in their satanically false doctrine:

    However, the investigator who examines the historic discipline and practice of Orthodox Judaism can ascertain that a body of law codified in the Babylonian Talmud exerts the most profound command over individual Judaics and governs their conduct.
     
    Understanding who/Jew we're dealing with:

    Because the principle of situation ethics is central to Orthodox Judaism...

     


    “Show no mercy to a non-Jew.”
     
    WARNING - Here's where we are today, which is the same place the Russians were 103 years ago:

    Maimonides also taught that Christians should, under the proper circumstances, be killed. The “proper circumstances” are predicated on Rabbi Maimonides’ situation ethics:when Talmudists are powerfully dominant over goyimthen worshippers of Jesus can be executed.
     

    ...looks upon Maimonides’ rulingnot as a ban on the killing of goyim,but a means for temporarily dispensing a Jew from the obligation to kill them...
     

    Replies: @Art, @Loup-Bouc

    Talmudic Rabbis renounce God The Father’s authority over them and consider God subservient to them

    Yahweh’s “Chosen People”invented Yahwehto be their servant.

    A “Chosen People” man sacrifices [kills] a sheep to Yahweh and Yahweh gives the “Chosen People” man what he wants.

    The “Chosen People” invoke Yahweh and obtain from Yahweh (their invention) a command that they [“Chosen People”] invade another people to take the other people’s land and [per their invented Yahweh’s command] slaughter every man, woman, child,and beast of the invaded people and make the invaded people’s land (part of) the “Promised Land” that their invented Yahweh promised them (per their fabrication). See,e.g., Tanakh Book of JoshuaBook of Joshua [Christian “Bible” Old Testament Book of Joshua].

    Cf. Laurent Guyénot, “The Devil’s Trick: Unmasking the God of Israel,”https://www.unz.com/article/the-devils-trick-unmasking-the-god-of-israel/

    Cf. also Goldman Sachs, the Rothschilds, and Zionism and Zionist Israel.

    The “Chosen People” are not unique. Many human groups — “primitive” or “civilized” — have invented a God or Gods or “Great Spirit” or…….. to do their bidding or to justify or excuse their cruel or evil deeds.

    Genghis Khan invoked the “Blue Sky” or “Eternal Heaven” — the “Protector God” who gave the Mongols, hence Genghis Khan, a right of ruling the entire world. The Great Khan invoked the Protector God’s conquest-authority with the incantation “Mongke Tenggiri-yin Kucun-dur” [“By the Power of Eternal Heaven”].

    Marx was wrong. Religion is not the “opiate of the masses.” All religions, even personal moral codes, are pathological. Most are psychopathic or concoctions or devices of emotional plague.See also my comment of September 23, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT (comment # 36),https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4180855

    • Replies:@MrVoid
    @Loup-Bouc


    The “Chosen People” are not unique. Many human groups — “primitive” or “civilized” — have invented a God or Gods or “Great Spirit” or…….. to do their bidding or to justify or excuse their cruel or evil deeds.
     
    You're basically overcrediting religion. Take away the religious trappings and people still behave similarly. Something like 50% of Jews now claim to be non-religious but that doesn't seem to do an awful lot in the way of diminishing their attachment to their otherwise malignant culture. If you want to be realistic you have to view the behavior of any human group as a complex thing involving many variables. There is an irony here because isolating one variable and declaring it to be the root of all evil sounds an awful lot like simplistic religious thinking.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

  • @Fran Taubman
    @Polemos

    Loopy regularly talks to animals.

    Replies: @Polemos

    If he talkedwith animals, he might learn something of their ways, thinking, perspectives, and cultures. Plenty of people talkto animals, even as they squash them. Some of us have the patience to talk with animals and other non-human beings.

    But, given how quickly Loup-Bouc starts to insult people who challenge his claims and/or his self-assessments, it’s evident he doesn’t have that kind of patience to do so. What is evident is that he spends a lot of time talking with and writing for himself. It’s always the other person who is at fault for having a different perspective, and you can see how one of his persistent ways of engaging with the perspectives of others is to say that the other person didn’t read what he wrote and then he dishes out a lot of ridicule and attempts to humiliate the other, losing the plot along the way.

    A whole life of accomplishments — as our old friend will eventually remind us — and it is still not enough emotional security or personal valor for him to pass over gracefully our ignorant selves left wallowing in mud. How weighty are the pearls he throws at us, such swine! Perhaps I am so short-sighted, and maybe it is an honor that someone who has excelled in both law and medicine takes the time in his post-retirement to correct our grammar, call us names, and rub our faces in our own horse shit. He could be helping write the laws of his local community or volunteering as a CASA, using his life experiences for constructive and healthy ends to those neighbors and people who need him the most. But, instead, like the rest of us unemployed and innumerate, ungrammatical blockheads, he’s here among us, —the animals.

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Polemos


    He could be helping write the laws of his local community or volunteering as a CASA, using his life experiences for constructive and healthy ends to those neighbors and people who need him the most. But, instead, like the rest of us unemployed and innumerate, ungrammatical blockheads, he’s here among us, —the animals.
     
    (1) I am not retired, but continue to practice both law and medicine.

    (2) I volunteer several hundred hours each year to free from prison and clear the names of people unjustly convicted of crimes they did not commit.

    (3) I provide medical caregratis, always. I became a physician to help people,gratis, avoid the gross malpractice of much of allopathy and homepathy.

    (4) Except eatingclearly non-sentient creatures (bi-valve molluscs), I do not eat, kill, harm, or use any non-human animals, even bugs (except to defend myself). I do not use products tested on animals.

    You are presumptuous, just as you are inclined to issue assertions lacking logic or tenable premise, even sometimes lacking ANY premise.
  • @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree
    Eternally precious takeaway:

    The oral traditions of the Pharisees is the foundation of the Talmud, as Jesus declared (cf. Mark 7; Matthew 15). Those traditions consist of extra-Biblical superstitions and occultism, self-worship, racist hatred for non-Jews and sheer nonsense.
     
    And just as God Incarnate Jesus renounced the tradition which was later reduced to writing as the Talmud, Talmudic Rabbis renounce God The Father's authority over them and consider God subservient to them:

    According to the Babylonian Talmud, God himself is subservient to the rabbis: “Since God already gave the Torah to the Jewish people on Mt. Sinai we no longer pay attention to heavenly voices. God must submit to the decisions of a majority vote of the rabbis.” (BT Bava Metzia 59b).
     
    Mr. Hoffman's courageous diligence enabling him to authoritatively state this conclusion is a service to both God and man, man including Jews/Judiacs ensnared in their satanically false doctrine:

    However, the investigator who examines the historic discipline and practice of Orthodox Judaism can ascertain that a body of law codified in the Babylonian Talmud exerts the most profound command over individual Judaics and governs their conduct.
     
    Understanding who/Jew we're dealing with:

    Because the principle of situation ethics is central to Orthodox Judaism...

     


    “Show no mercy to a non-Jew.”
     
    WARNING - Here's where we are today, which is the same place the Russians were 103 years ago:

    Maimonides also taught that Christians should, under the proper circumstances, be killed. The “proper circumstances” are predicated on Rabbi Maimonides’ situation ethics:when Talmudists are powerfully dominant over goyimthen worshippers of Jesus can be executed.
     

    ...looks upon Maimonides’ rulingnot as a ban on the killing of goyim,but a means for temporarily dispensing a Jew from the obligation to kill them...
     

    Replies: @Art, @Loup-Bouc

    According to the Babylonian Talmud, God himself is subservient to the rabbis: “Since God already gave the Torah to the Jewish people on Mt. Sinai we no longer pay attention to heavenly voices. God must submit to the decisions of a majority vote of the rabbis.” (BT Bava Metzia 59b).

    The male Jew ego is a blight on humanity – period!

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Polemos

    How were you born such an idiot?

    Replies: @Polemos

    How was I born such an idiot?

    So, you don’t have an answer to the question?

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Polemos

    This comment related to:
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4187800
    AND
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4188067
    AND
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4191103

    The answer is obvious everywhere non-human animal life has not suffered human intrusion. The same answer has been obvious for all the brief time Homo sapiens has existed and for about 550 million years before.

    You are blind.

    And you seem to abide, agree with, or have joined certain religious psychopaths [Zionist Orthodox Jews] and their psychopathic society, politics, and religion:
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4191162

    Replies: @Polemos

  • @Art
    @Loup-Bouc


    I appreciate your choice of grammar: “may be the only one.” That (subjunctive) grammar accounts the insufficiency of valid, reliable data that would be necessary to determining the number whose abysmal ignorance causes them to feel they utter competent statements.
     
    That is such an important point. My abysmal mind - just cannot grapple with your awe-inspiring "know it all ego."

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    That is such an important point. My abysmal mind – just cannot grapple with your awe-inspiring “know it all ego.”

    One cannot find in cyberspace or anywhere else an example of a “know it allego,” since none can exist, as I have observed in other comments:
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4188137
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4189178

    But one can find in Hollywood film at least one example of a “know [nearly] it all” character:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huqrR5v5320

    Video Link
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0c8e0XSHDE

    Video Link

    Enjoy.

  • Eternally precious takeaway:

    The oral traditions of the Pharisees is the foundation of the Talmud, as Jesus declared (cf. Mark 7; Matthew 15). Those traditions consist of extra-Biblical superstitions and occultism, self-worship, racist hatred for non-Jews and sheer nonsense.

    And just as God Incarnate Jesus renounced the tradition which was later reduced to writing as the Talmud, Talmudic Rabbis renounce God The Father’s authority over them and consider God subservient to them:

    According to the Babylonian Talmud, God himself is subservient to the rabbis: “Since God already gave the Torah to the Jewish people on Mt. Sinai we no longer pay attention to heavenly voices. God must submit to the decisions of a majority vote of the rabbis.” (BT Bava Metzia 59b).

    Mr. Hoffman’s courageous diligence enabling him to authoritatively state this conclusion is a service to both God and man, man including Jews/Judiacs ensnared in their satanically false doctrine:

    However, the investigator who examines the historic discipline and practice of Orthodox Judaism can ascertain that a body of law codified in the Babylonian Talmud exerts the most profound command over individual Judaics and governs their conduct.

    Understanding who/Jew we’re dealing with:

    Because the principle of situation ethics is central to Orthodox Judaism…

    “Show no mercy to a non-Jew.”

    WARNING – Here’s where we are today, which is the same place the Russians were 103 years ago:

    Maimonides also taught that Christians should, under the proper circumstances, be killed. The “proper circumstances” are predicated on Rabbi Maimonides’ situation ethics:when Talmudists are powerfully dominant over goyimthen worshippers of Jesus can be executed.

    …looks upon Maimonides’ rulingnot as a ban on the killing of goyim,but a means for temporarily dispensing a Jew from the obligation to kill them

    • Replies:@Art
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree


    According to the Babylonian Talmud, God himself is subservient to the rabbis: “Since God already gave the Torah to the Jewish people on Mt. Sinai we no longer pay attention to heavenly voices. God must submit to the decisions of a majority vote of the rabbis.” (BT Bava Metzia 59b).
     
    The male Jew ego is a blight on humanity - period!
    ,@Loup-Bouc
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree


    Talmudic Rabbis renounce God The Father’s authority over them and consider God subservient to them
     
    Yahweh's "Chosen People"invented Yahwehto be their servant.

    A “Chosen People” man sacrifices [kills] a sheep to Yahweh and Yahweh gives the “Chosen People” man what he wants.

    The “Chosen People” invoke Yahweh and obtain from Yahweh (their invention) a command that they [“Chosen People”] invade another people to take the other people's land and [per their invented Yahweh’s command] slaughter every man, woman, child,and beast of the invaded people and make the invaded people's land (part of) the “Promised Land” that their invented Yahweh promised them (per their fabrication). See,e.g., Tanakh Book of JoshuaBook of Joshua [Christian “Bible” Old Testament Book of Joshua].

    Cf. Laurent Guyénot, “The Devil’s Trick: Unmasking the God of Israel,” https://www.unz.com/article/the-devils-trick-unmasking-the-god-of-israel/

    Cf. also
    Goldman Sachs, the Rothschilds, and Zionism and Zionist Israel.

    The “Chosen People” are not unique. Many human groups — “primitive” or “civilized” — have invented a God or Gods or “Great Spirit” or........ to do their bidding or to justify or excuse their cruel or evil deeds.

    Genghis Khan invoked the “Blue Sky” or “Eternal Heaven” — the “Protector God” who gave the Mongols, hence Genghis Khan, a right of ruling the entire world. The Great Khan invoked the Protector God’s conquest-authority with the incantation “Mongke Tenggiri-yin Kucun-dur” [“By the Power of Eternal Heaven”].

    Marx was wrong. Religion is not the “opiate of the masses.” All religions, even personal moral codes, are pathological. Most are psychopathic or concoctions or devices of emotional plague.See also my comment of September 23, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT (comment # 36), https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4180855

    Replies: @MrVoid

  • Brilliant work by Adam Green ofKnow More News.

    Rabbis Explain the Noahide Laws
    EVERY CHRISTIAN MUST
    UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!

    https://youtu.be/MqDlL1DhF3w
    Video Link

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @IronForge

    Rational, well-said, but insufficient.

    Christianity has shown itself essentially indistinguishable from the Orthodox Judaism Michael Hoffman portrays. And Christianity's insanity has caused markedly greater immediate physical suffering. Let us not forget the "Bible" of the Christians, which includes the Hebrew "Bible," which is the root of Yahweh's JudaismAND explains much of the evil behavior of Chritianity and Islam.Cf. Laurent Guyénot, “The Devil’s Trick: Unmasking the God of Israel,” https://www.unz.com/article/the-devils-trick-unmasking-the-god-of-israel/

    I do not know a math that could compare validly the physical-harm-magnitude of (a) Jewish economic and indirect physical-violence (e.g., harms caused, induced, facilitated, or supported by the Rothschilds & Goldman Sachs,etc., and neoliberals, neoconservatives, and Western [Jewish or Jewish-manipulated] mainstream media)versus (b) wars, invasions, occupations, oppressions, enslavements, inquisitions, sexual repressions,etc, wrought by Christianity and Islam.

    Were I to permit myself the crime of relativity, still I could not craft a math that would compare validly the crimes of Yahweh's modern "Israel" with those of Christ's U.S., England, Germany, Spain, Portugal, and France, or the forces of Islam. Then, how couldwhat math "factor in" the emotional-plague-and-psychopathy-tainted pseudo-Marxism religion of Stalinist Russia and Chairman Mao's Communist China?

    The problem is not that Jesus may not have existed or even that Christians have never appreciated with action Jesus's best putative sound-bites.

    The problem is that hypocritical civilized humans have always needed a Jesus (or Moses, Krishna, Buddha, Mithra.......) to call "Christ" (or some other name) and use to justify or excuse manifest psychopathy and emotional plague. But, alas, the less dishonest civilizations (Rome, Greece, Persia, Egypt......) tended to distribute among pantheon-deities the justifications or excuses ofthose civilizations' manifest psychopathy and emotional plague.

    My heroes are the San (a.k.a. Bushman people), and the precolonized Trobriand Islanders, Tahitians, and Hawaiians —especially the San.

    Better: the timber wolf, the Canada goose, and the mountain goatand Tao Te Ching Chapter 38. See my comment of September 23, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT (comment # 36, this thread), https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4180855

    Replies: @Art, @anonymous coward

    My heroes are the San (a.k.a. Bushman people), and the precolonized Trobriand Islanders, Tahitians, and Hawaiians — especially the San.

    Yeah, you should pack your bags and go live with them. Godspeed.

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Art


    You may be the only one on the internet that does not get the full meaning of “know it all ego.” I am sure that no one else had to google it.
     
    So, you are "sure that no one else had to google it"? Your assuredness is warranted. The world's weak-minded and poorly educated (like you) far outnumber the few who have properly functioning minds blessed with knowledge of the subjects they address.

    I appreciate your choice of grammar: “may be the only one.” That (subjunctive) grammar accounts the insufficiency of valid, reliable data that would be necessary to determining the number whose abysmal ignorance causes them to feel they utter competent statements.

    I am reassured by the fact that I am NOT "on the internet." Is being "on the internet" like finding oneself stuck on a giant cybernautic spider web?

    “Full meaning”? I am gratified by learning that your ignorant proposition may bear, perhaps, a half or quarter meaning.

    Thank you for creating a diversion from suffering the tedious details of psychoanalytic/characteranalytic nomenclature. But now, after drinking a cup of coffee, I find myself swooped back to the reality that an "ego" does not "know"anything. See the literature I referenced in my comment of September 27, 2020 at 12:16 am GMT (comment # 261).

    Replies: @Art

    I appreciate your choice of grammar: “may be the only one.” That (subjunctive) grammar accounts the insufficiency of valid, reliable data that would be necessary to determining the number whose abysmal ignorance causes them to feel they utter competent statements.

    That is such an important point. My abysmal mind – just cannot grapple with your awe-inspiring “know it all ego.”

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Art


    That is such an important point. My abysmal mind – just cannot grapple with your awe-inspiring “know it all ego.”
     
    One cannot find in cyberspace or anywhere else an example of a "know it allego," since none can exist, as I have observed in other comments:
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4188137
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-does-rabbinic-judaism-say-about-what-makes-jews-and-gentiles-different/#comment-4189178

    But one can find in Hollywood film at least one example of a "know [nearly] it all" character:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huqrR5v5320
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0c8e0XSHDE

    Enjoy.
  • Emendation of my comment of September 28, 2020 at 1:35 am GMT (comment # 278). In the above-referenced comment, the penultimate paragraph was:

    Hence [per the necessary implications of your own assertions] consciousness exists as manifestation of its symbols and is part of nature hence describable by the symbols of consciousness, your argument and consciousness-description are self-negating.

    That language is marred by a typing error —actually, my failing to complete an editing-effort: I failed to delete the second sentence’s first term “Hence” and substitute the terms “Yet since.” That same paragraph ought to be this [the correction highlighted by bold italic typeface]:

    Since consciousness is part of nature, consciousness cannot be or be limited or described by the symbols that constitute your comment.Yet since [per the necessary implications of your own assertions] consciousness exists as manifestation of its symbols and is part of nature hence describable by the symbols of consciousness, your argument and consciousness-description are self-negating.

  • @Fool
    @Loup-Bouc


    YOUR task is showing that no analytic discipline has determined, or can be able to determine, the content, source, operation, or function of consciousness. For, such is a necessary foundation of YOUR thesis.
     
    Yes. I agree. I have already shown this.

    In describing nature we use symbols. These symbols are designed by and for conscious agents. Consciousness itself, categorically, is not amenable to symbolic description/explanation.

    In physics: a state of affairs is transformed into another state of affairs via mathematics. One can infer the past or predict the future with appropriate equations. All states may be modeled and measured quantitatively. Configurations of positions, momenta, &c. All may be measured and quantified.

    No such mechanism exists for the world of the mind. Which set of symbols may be "equated" to consciousness? The obvious answer: none! Can you, even in theory, scribble out a string of symbols that will somehow link a physical configuration with a conscious experience? If not, symbolic reasoning isn't up to the task of describing the mind.

    Art is much closer to understanding consciousness than science. Art also lacks rigor. This isn't a coincidence.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    An astounding amalgam of word-salad, other nonsense, and steaming horse-shit. World class. Too amazing — too monumentally blithering — to merit even an utterly disrespectful comment.

    I shall not respond to any more of your comments.

    Here I shall observe only the following regarding your post.

    I have already shown this.

    In describing nature we use symbols. These symbols are designed by and for conscious agents. Consciousness itself, categorically, is not amenable to symbolic description/explanation.

    You never even stated such dreck previously, so never even tried earlier to “show” it.

    If consciousness describes nature with symbols designed by and for conscious “agents” [and what are the “agents” you do not describe?], how can consciousness not be “amenable to symbolic description/explanation,” despite [per the necessary implications of your own assertions] consciousness exists (at least partly) as manifestation of its symbols and despite consciousness is part of nature hence describable by the symbols of consciousness.

    Humans may describe nature however humans presume to do. But nature does not equal the symbols humans use to describe it.

    Since consciousness is part of nature, consciousness cannot be or be limited or described by the symbols that constitute your comment. Hence [per the necessary implications of your own assertions] consciousness exists as manifestation of its symbols and is part of nature hence describable by the symbols of consciousness, your argument and consciousness-description are self-negating.

    Your comment involves immensely more horse-shit and nonsense. But the preceding demonstration suffices.

  • @RoatanBill
    @Fool

    You're a broken record.

    You bore me.

    Replies: @Fool

    I infer that I’m in good company.

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Fool


    Don’t quibble over whether animals have it or not. That is a low debate.
     
    Why is the point "low"? What would be the pertinent significance of the point's being "low"?

    You’ve used many words to express the fact that you’ve missed the point.

    I don’t think you have dodged the point, though. You’re throwing up a smoke screen.
     
    So, I missed your point, but I have not dodged your point, but I am "throwing up a smoke screen" against your point?

    I seem to be a magician without trying to be or even knowing that I am. I suppose I am simultaneously both anti-matter and two inconsistent forms of matter — or my comment was.

    Also,you have not responded tomy comment — my comment's deconstruction of yours, your comment's thesis and the premises and inferences from which your thesis perceives it derives and on which it would depend.

    My comment's point was that your comment did not — could not — proveeither (a) the legitimacy of a belief that the universe or anything else exists because of a god or universal creating/organizing spirit or intelligent design or forceor (b) the good, bad, sense, or sanity of any religion, whether organized or formal or a social norm or a personal moral code that does, or does not, include something like spiritualism.

    My (deconstructive) point does not depend on any view of consciousness or its ingredients, source, operation, or function. My point was that you did not — could not — prove the existence of anynon-physical thing or phenomenon on a premise ofeither (a) science's or math's "inability toeven begin to explain/justify/describe consciousness" [quote of your language and emphasis]or (b) some ancient sage's (e.g., Aristotle's) putting ideas that modern science has not apprehended, imagined, or considered.

    My comment did not concede that consciousness — its content, source, operation, or function — has been, or is, beyond the apprehension of any science or analytic discipline. I cited a source that presents a tenable apprehension of the nature of consciousness and identifiers of its presence and operation. https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2643&context=utk_graddiss&httpsredir=1&referer=

    But my purpose was NOT to solve your "consciousness" riddle. It was only to deconstruct your thesis and the premises and inferences from which your thesis perceives it derives and on which it would depend. That deconstruction did not (does not) requireeither (a) a demonstration of any analytic discipline's having determined, or being able to determine, the content, source, operation, or function of consciousnessor (b)my rendering a determination of the source or qualities of consciousness.

    YOUR task is showing that no analytic discipline has determined, or can be able to determine, the content, source, operation, or function of consciousness. For, such is a necessary foundation of YOUR thesis.

    insert ad hominems here
     
    Nowhere did my comment put anad hominem attack against YOU. My comment attacked the contents of your comment. Perhaps you do not understand "ad hominem attack."

    Replies: @Fool

    YOUR task is showing that no analytic discipline has determined, or can be able to determine, the content, source, operation, or function of consciousness. For, such is a necessary foundation of YOUR thesis.

    Yes. I agree. I have already shown this.

    In describing nature we use symbols. These symbols are designed by and for conscious agents. Consciousness itself, categorically, is not amenable to symbolic description/explanation.

    In physics: a state of affairs is transformed into another state of affairs via mathematics. One can infer the past or predict the future with appropriate equations. All states may be modeled and measured quantitatively. Configurations of positions, momenta, &c. All may be measured and quantified.

    No such mechanism exists for the world of the mind. Which set of symbols may be “equated” to consciousness? The obvious answer: none! Can you, even in theory, scribble out a string of symbols that will somehow link a physical configuration with a conscious experience? If not, symbolic reasoning isn’t up to the task of describing the mind.

    Art is much closer to understanding consciousness than science. Art also lacks rigor. This isn’t a coincidence.

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Fool

    An astounding amalgam of word-salad, other nonsense, and steaming horse-shit. World class. Too amazing — too monumentally blithering — to merit even an utterly disrespectful comment.

    I shall not respond to any more of your comments.

    Here I shall observe only the following regarding your post.


    I have already shown this.

    In describing nature we use symbols. These symbols are designed by and for conscious agents. Consciousness itself, categorically, is not amenable to symbolic description/explanation.
     

    You never even stated such dreck previously, so never even tried earlier to "show" it.

    If consciousness describes nature with symbols designed by and for conscious "agents" [and what are the "agents" you do not describe?], how can consciousness not be "amenable to symbolic description/explanation," despite [per the necessary implications of your own assertions] consciousness exists (at least partly) as manifestation of its symbols and despite consciousness is part of nature hence describable by the symbols of consciousness.

    Humans may describe nature however humans presume to do. But nature does not equal the symbols humans use to describe it.

    Since consciousness is part of nature, consciousness cannot be or be limited or described by the symbols that constitute your comment. Hence [per the necessary implications of your own assertions] consciousness exists as manifestation of its symbols and is part of nature hence describable by the symbols of consciousness, your argument and consciousness-description are self-negating.

    Your comment involves immensely more horse-shit and nonsense. But the preceding demonstration suffices.

  • @Robert Whatever
    Why do most Jews revere the Babylonian Talmud over the Torah (Old Testament)?

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    Why do most Jews revere the Babylonian Talmud over the Torah (Old Testament)?

    Do they?

    Surely you can support your question’s premising assertion with a valid, reliable study done in the 21st century and performed on a truly random sample of at least 40% of the entire world’s adult Jewish population.

    How would the study-designers determine, validly and reliably, which “Jews” were JEWS?

    What would be the study-validating, outcome-reliability-assuring, necessary, non-biasing questions the study must have asked the subjects?

  • @jacobs-adder
    @Loup-Bouc

    Past history...the opposite of going back to the future?

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    I thank you for decodifying ’s term “past history” with a puzzle of the occult.

    Because you may have steeped yourself in occultism, you may enjoy reading Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky’s “THE SECRET DOCTRINE,”
    https://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm

    My father — a brilliant, uneducated, religiously drunken, anatomically simian-like human — studied “THE SECRET DOCTRINE” near-daily. Like Pythagoras, my father would not eat beans because, like Pythagoras, my father believed beans were akin to humans, though, unlike Pythagoras, my father «knew» beans were “Moon people.”

    • Replies:@Fran Taubman
    @Loup-Bouc

    That explains Loopy why you are such a freaking nut job. My father was a wonderful human being and father. He ate beans an all other nutrias foods, and never met a moon person he did not like.
    You are a real legend in your own lunch box.

    Replies: @geokat62, @Loup-Bouc

  • Why do most Jews revere the Babylonian Talmud over the Torah (Old Testament)?

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Robert Whatever


    Why do most Jews revere the Babylonian Talmud over the Torah (Old Testament)?
     
    Do they?

    Surely you can support your question's premising assertion with a valid, reliable study done in the 21st century and performed on a truly random sample of at least 40% of the entire world's adult Jewish population.

    How would the study-designers determine, validly and reliably, which "Jews" were JEWS?

    What would be the study-validating, outcome-reliability-assuring, necessary, non-biasing questions the study must have asked the subjects?

  • @Art
    @Loup-Bouc

    Egos do not “know” anything. I suggest you read the works of Sigmund Freud and Wilhelm Reich, especially Wilhelm Reich’s “CHARACTER ANALYSIS

    You may be the only one on the internet that does not get the full meaning of "know it all ego." I am sure that no one else had to google it. (And you still got it wrong.)

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    You may be the only one on the internet that does not get the full meaning of “know it all ego.” I am sure that no one else had to google it.

    So, you are “sure that no one else had to google it”? Your assuredness is warranted. The world’s weak-minded and poorly educated (like you) far outnumber the few who have properly functioning minds blessed with knowledge of the subjects they address.

    I appreciate your choice of grammar: “may be the only one.” That (subjunctive) grammar accounts the insufficiency of valid, reliable data that would be necessary to determining the number whose abysmal ignorance causes them to feel they utter competent statements.

    I am reassured by the fact that I am NOT “on the internet.” Is being “on the internet” like finding oneself stuck on a giant cybernautic spider web?

    “Full meaning”? I am gratified by learning that your ignorant proposition may bear, perhaps, a half or quarter meaning.

    Thank you for creating a diversion from suffering the tedious details of psychoanalytic/characteranalytic nomenclature. But now, after drinking a cup of coffee, I find myself swooped back to the reality that an “ego” does not “know”anything. See the literature I referenced in my comment of September 27, 2020 at 12:16 am GMT (comment # 261).

    • Replies:@Art
    @Loup-Bouc


    I appreciate your choice of grammar: “may be the only one.” That (subjunctive) grammar accounts the insufficiency of valid, reliable data that would be necessary to determining the number whose abysmal ignorance causes them to feel they utter competent statements.
     
    That is such an important point. My abysmal mind - just cannot grapple with your awe-inspiring "know it all ego."

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Rogue


    Not just today, but at every single time in all ofpast history.
     
    [Emphasis added by me, Loup-Bouc.] I apologize, contritely. I neglected to note that your phrase " in all of past history" is redundant (except to those who live in a time-warp-world where history can occur in immediate-present time, even in the future).

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @jacobs-adder

    Past history…the opposite of going back to the future?

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @jacobs-adder

    I thank you for decodifying @Rogue's term "past history" with a puzzle of the occult.

    Because you may have steeped yourself in occultism, you may enjoy reading Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky’s “THE SECRET DOCTRINE,”
    https://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm

    My father — a brilliant, uneducated, religiously drunken, anatomically simian-like human — studied “THE SECRET DOCTRINE” near-daily. Like Pythagoras, my father would not eat beans because, like Pythagoras, my father believed beans were akin to humans, though, unlike Pythagoras, my father «knew» beans were “Moon people.”

    Replies: @Fran Taubman

  • Great article thanks. I would like to see some facts backing up the zionist conspiracy theories that seem to be accepted as ‘Gospel’ (no pun intended !) by certain factions of the far right. For example..

    – Liberal Agendas such as homosexuality, trans etc to weaken and corrupt the white christian race. Is it jews lobbying and pushing for these agenda to deliberately mess with us? What evidence is there that can be easily traced back to Zionists?

    -Race Mixing: Is this is a zionist scheme to weaken the white race and all other races and religions by forced and encouraged mixing via immigration and media manipulation (adverts with mixed couples etc) Again, can this be linked to zionists?

    -Media Manipulation: I constantly read about the Jewish run media but which newspapers etc are owned by Jews etc that are actively engaging in Zionist behaviour.

    Just because someone has a Jewish name and owns a media outlet, does this mean they are part of the zionist conspiracy?

    Is all this done with the aim of creating a single world government run by Jews in Israel?

    I hear about the ruling elite and the zionists. Not all of the ruling elite are jews/zionists / globalists?

    Are globalists and zionists the same thing?

    Its very difficult to red-pill norms without basic examples as any criticism or investigation into Judaism is automatically treated as Neo-Nazism, which is a slippery slope to being ‘Cancelled’ and having your life and professional reputation ruined. I have done my own research but am interested to hear what other people think. Thanks in advance!

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Art


    Why is it most always, that the anti-god/anti-Christians, have the biggest know it all egos?
     
    Egos do not "know"anything. I suggest you read the works of Sigmund Freud and Wilhelm Reich, especially Wilhelm Reich's "CHARACTER ANALYSIS (Farrar, Straus, and Giroux 1972, paperback 1990), Paperback ISBN-13: 978-0-374-50!J8IJ–l, Paperback ISBN-lO: 0-:374-50980-8,excerpted here: https://wilhelmreichtrust.org/character_analysis.pdf.

    Trashing old previous scientific thoughts....
     
    I guess you refer to my treatment of Aristotle's idiotic "physics" and Pythagoras's lunatic notion that beans were sentient creatures akin to humans. From your defending such dross, one must deduce that you are a God-fearing Christian or a follower of some other hallucination-filled immensely dangerous insanity called religion.

    ...the nature of the growth of knowledge, that parallels the advancement ofobservational discovery.
     
    * [Emphasis added by me, Loup-Bouc] *

    If you haveobserved a God, or a transubstantiation of bread and wine into the flesh and blood of some guy called Jesus, or a bean's having a brain and other organs and DNA of a human or other sentient animal, you need to be committed to a nut house, like the rest of religious humanity.

    Replies: @Rogue, @Art

    Egos do not “know” anything. I suggest you read the works of Sigmund Freud and Wilhelm Reich, especially Wilhelm Reich’s “CHARACTER ANALYSIS

    You may be the only one on the internet that does not get the full meaning of “know it all ego.” I am sure that no one else had to google it. (And you still got it wrong.)

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Art


    You may be the only one on the internet that does not get the full meaning of “know it all ego.” I am sure that no one else had to google it.
     
    So, you are "sure that no one else had to google it"? Your assuredness is warranted. The world's weak-minded and poorly educated (like you) far outnumber the few who have properly functioning minds blessed with knowledge of the subjects they address.

    I appreciate your choice of grammar: “may be the only one.” That (subjunctive) grammar accounts the insufficiency of valid, reliable data that would be necessary to determining the number whose abysmal ignorance causes them to feel they utter competent statements.

    I am reassured by the fact that I am NOT "on the internet." Is being "on the internet" like finding oneself stuck on a giant cybernautic spider web?

    “Full meaning”? I am gratified by learning that your ignorant proposition may bear, perhaps, a half or quarter meaning.

    Thank you for creating a diversion from suffering the tedious details of psychoanalytic/characteranalytic nomenclature. But now, after drinking a cup of coffee, I find myself swooped back to the reality that an "ego" does not "know"anything. See the literature I referenced in my comment of September 27, 2020 at 12:16 am GMT (comment # 261).

    Replies: @Art

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Rogue


    Not just today, but at every single time in all ofpast history.
     
    [Emphasis added by me, Loup-Bouc.] I apologize, contritely. I neglected to note that your phrase " in all of past history" is redundant (except to those who live in a time-warp-world where history can occur in immediate-present time, even in the future).

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @jacobs-adder

    It’s scary really scary Loopy that you think you are on the cutting edge of smart. You are the dullest of dull. Religion is based on the supernatural, and lo and behold physics has never caught up to it.

  • @Rogue
    @Loup-Bouc

    you need to be committed to a nut house, like the rest of religious humanity

    Umm, you are presumably aware, Loopy, that you are almost certainly suggesting that vastly more than half the World's population should be consigned to the nut-house, based on what you've written above. Not just today, but at every single time in all of past history.

    There are many different kinds of nuts...

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc, @Loup-Bouc

    Not just today, but at every single time in all ofpast history.

    [Emphasis added by me, Loup-Bouc.] I apologize, contritely. I neglected to note that your phrase ” in all of past history” is redundant (except to those who live in a time-warp-world where history can occur in immediate-present time, even in the future).

    • Replies:@Fran Taubman
    @Loup-Bouc

    It's scary really scary Loopy that you think you are on the cutting edge of smart. You are the dullest of dull. Religion is based on the supernatural, and lo and behold physics has never caught up to it.

    ,@jacobs-adder
    @Loup-Bouc

    Past history...the opposite of going back to the future?

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

  • @Rogue
    @Loup-Bouc

    you need to be committed to a nut house, like the rest of religious humanity

    Umm, you are presumably aware, Loopy, that you are almost certainly suggesting that vastly more than half the World's population should be consigned to the nut-house, based on what you've written above. Not just today, but at every single time in all of past history.

    There are many different kinds of nuts...

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc, @Loup-Bouc

    ….you are almost certainly suggesting that vastly more than half the World’s population should be consigned to the nut-house….

    Yes. The only problem is that not enough nut-house space is available.

    …based on what you’ve written above. Not just today, but at every single time in all of past history.

    I am an old man. But I have not lived “in all of past history” (the lunatic belief “reincarnation” notwithstanding).

    There are many different kinds of nuts…

    (1) Where is “There”? (2) I do not eat nuts (the kind that trees produce). Nuts bear much too much fat and an unhealthful fatty acid constellation.

  • @Art
    @Loup-Bouc

    Pythagoras believed humans and beans were spawned from the same source.

    By the way --- beans and humans do share some of the same biological structure and and I believe DNA.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc, @Loup-Bouc

    Perhaps you derived your <> psychotic fantasy here:https://satirev.org/us/study-finds-humans-share-more-dna-lima-beans-chimpanzees#.X2_kZrjXBXQ
    If THAT is your source, you must not have noticed that the journal’s name is “Satire V” and that the article’s closing paragraph is:

    As of press time, the FDA had released a report that the Venter Institute’s lima beans had been contaminated with horsemeat.

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Art


    Why is it most always, that the anti-god/anti-Christians, have the biggest know it all egos?
     
    Egos do not "know"anything. I suggest you read the works of Sigmund Freud and Wilhelm Reich, especially Wilhelm Reich's "CHARACTER ANALYSIS (Farrar, Straus, and Giroux 1972, paperback 1990), Paperback ISBN-13: 978-0-374-50!J8IJ–l, Paperback ISBN-lO: 0-:374-50980-8,excerpted here: https://wilhelmreichtrust.org/character_analysis.pdf.

    Trashing old previous scientific thoughts....
     
    I guess you refer to my treatment of Aristotle's idiotic "physics" and Pythagoras's lunatic notion that beans were sentient creatures akin to humans. From your defending such dross, one must deduce that you are a God-fearing Christian or a follower of some other hallucination-filled immensely dangerous insanity called religion.

    ...the nature of the growth of knowledge, that parallels the advancement ofobservational discovery.
     
    * [Emphasis added by me, Loup-Bouc] *

    If you haveobserved a God, or a transubstantiation of bread and wine into the flesh and blood of some guy called Jesus, or a bean's having a brain and other organs and DNA of a human or other sentient animal, you need to be committed to a nut house, like the rest of religious humanity.

    Replies: @Rogue, @Art

    you need to be committed to a nut house, like the rest of religious humanity

    Umm, you are presumably aware, Loopy, that you are almost certainly suggesting that vastly more than half the World’s population should be consigned to the nut-house, based on what you’ve written above. Not just today, but at every single time in all of past history.

    There are many different kinds of nuts…

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Rogue


    ....you are almost certainly suggesting that vastly more than half the World’s population should be consigned to the nut-house....
     
    Yes. The only problem is that not enough nut-house space is available.

    ...based on what you’ve written above. Not just today, but at every single time in all of past history.
     
    I am an old man. But I have not lived "in all of past history" (the lunatic belief "reincarnation" notwithstanding).

    There are many different kinds of nuts...
     
    (1) Where is "There"? (2) I do not eat nuts (the kind that trees produce). Nuts bear much too much fat and an unhealthful fatty acid constellation.
    ,@Loup-Bouc
    @Rogue


    Not just today, but at every single time in all ofpast history.
     
    [Emphasis added by me, Loup-Bouc.] I apologize, contritely. I neglected to note that your phrase " in all of past history" is redundant (except to those who live in a time-warp-world where history can occur in immediate-present time, even in the future).

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @jacobs-adder

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @Rogue

    I think this is the third time you've repeated the same thing. Apparently it's all you know and all you can say, but it amounts only to what you've picked up in passing, not anything you've studied in depth.


    for absolute sure [Hitler] was a disaster for Germany.

     
    Fact: Germany was already experiencing disaster when Hitler entered the scene and no one knew how to fix it. Isn't that correct? Do you know, or can you say (or David Irving or M. Hoffman) how things would have turned out for Germany if Hitler had been killed or ousted by the Left wing of the NSDAP led by Gregor (and Otto) Strasser? Would disaster have been averted? If you say yes, you're lying. It may have led to an eventual Soviet takeover.

    The US, UK and France were already out to destroy Germany as a leading nationbefore the Great War took place (1914-18). AH took on the mission to save Germans from this fate of Jewish domination. His onlyalternative was to go along with Jewish rule, as the others were doing. Indeed, this was a big GAMBLE. In the end, Germany was overwhelmed by these evil forces, but not before showing the world what heroism looked like, what superior humanity looks like -- an inspiring and hugely popular vision that hasn't been defeated yet, 80 years on, despite every attempt to obliterate it. That's success, and perhaps all that could have been achieved considering the state of human development.

    I notice you "Agreed" with JamesinNM above (Sept. 25, 12:32 am) who suggests the 'answer' lies at missiontoIsrael.org, a Christian Identity site. That tells me you connect with Michael Hoffman on the Christian angle but may not know that Hoffman intended to write a second book (part 2) to his "Adolf Hitler - Enemy of the German People," but it's poor reception and 'panning' caused him to cancel that plan. (Bad sales, I guess.) Your changed position could be a result of your conversion to CI or any other Christian perspective, and your peculiar understanding thereof.

    To your question: Yes, it was unconditional surrender. Hitler tried many times to work out an agreement for ending the fighting, including stepping down himself, but was always rebuffed. His German government knew well what the Allies, led by Jews, intended by unconditional surrender: no mercy at all. For you to ridicule that as "mean plans" shows you may not be what you're trying to pass yourself off as. I agree with Col General Jodl who stated at Nuremberg:

    "Then, to advise to surrender I did not. That was totally out of the question;no soldier would have done that; it would not have been of any value. [...] there were, in the winder of 1944, many reasons against it. [...] The capitulation required the standstill on the fronts at the spot where they were, and their capture by the adversaries who stood across the line. [...] Millions of prisoners had to camp in the middle of the winter in open fields. Death would have reaped an immense harvest, and above all, those nearly three and one-half million still standing at the eastern front would have fallen completely into the hands of the eastern adversary. It was our desire to bring as many people as possible to the west. One could do that only if the two fronts moved closer to each other. Those were the mainly military considerations we deliberated toward the end of the war."

     

    What considerations are you following in taking your cheap shots at these momentous and grave decisions for humanity and posterity? I do not hold silly or caricature views of Adolf Hitler; I hold respectful views. Your arrogance is based on ignorance.

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @Rogue, @R2b

    I think this is the third time you’ve repeated the same thing. Apparently it’s all you know and all you can say

    Then I’ll say it for the fourth time – Hitler was a disaster for Germany.

    Are historical events simple and straightforward, without context, setting and nuance of the times they took place in? Of course not. But weighed on the scales, Hitler was a disaster for Germany – and most of Europe too.

  • @Fran Taubman
    @Carolyn Yeager


    What considerations are you following in taking your cheap shots at these momentous and grave decisions for humanity and posterity? I do not hold silly or caricature views of Adolf Hitler; I hold respectful views. Your arrogance is based on ignorance.
     
    Caroline you need to come clean. You have a no holds barred crush on the Führer. If could transport back in time to be Eva Braun you would in a heart beat. You are in love with him. Admit it. Whenever anyone gets close to proving that Hitler was (a) mad as a hatter. (b) a murderous psychopath that had such a narcissistic personality disorder he refused to listen to his top military advisors even in the face of defeat. (c) left starving 12 year old boys defending Berlin, while cities burned while he was holed up in his bunker planing his exit. Why didn't he go out fighting?
    You are just in love with him, beyond rationality. Thats what love is a suspension of reality.

    When anyone challenges you, you challenge them on their intelligence, which is just silly. Neo Nazis are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

    Did Ron ever publish your revised population data showing that the population of Jews actually increased after the war because there was a statistical boo boo? No? I guess it was not very sound statistically hey?
    Listen it takes a women, even a Jewess like me to see that another woman is hopelessly in love. Maybe you will see him oneway and you can make up for lost time. You always say he was such a gentlemen around women. LOL. Just the generals he murdered on the spot.

    Replies: @Rogue

    You have a no holds barred crush on the Führer.

    Fran, I’m not sure I’d ever normally agree with you – but in this case I think you might be onto something!

    From the little I’ve read of Carolyn, she seems to believe in reincarnation, past lives etc. Could it be that she thinks she was once Aunty Eva??

    LOL!!

    • LOL:Fran Taubman
  • @Art
    @Loup-Bouc

    Why is it most always, that the anti-god/anti-Christians, have the biggest know it all egos? Trashing old previous scientific thoughts is the sign of a loser.

    They show themselves to have zero understanding about the nature of the growth of knowledge, that parallels the advancement of observational discovery.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    Why is it most always, that the anti-god/anti-Christians, have the biggest know it all egos?

    Egos do not “know”anything. I suggest you read the works of Sigmund Freud and Wilhelm Reich, especially Wilhelm Reich’s “CHARACTER ANALYSIS (Farrar, Straus, and Giroux 1972, paperback 1990), Paperback ISBN-13: 978-0-374-50!J8IJ–l, Paperback ISBN-lO: 0-:374-50980-8,excerpted here:https://wilhelmreichtrust.org/character_analysis.pdf.

    Trashing old previous scientific thoughts….

    I guess you refer to my treatment of Aristotle’s idiotic “physics” and Pythagoras’s lunatic notion that beans were sentient creatures akin to humans. From your defending such dross, one must deduce that you are a God-fearing Christian or a follower of some other hallucination-filled immensely dangerous insanity called religion.

    …the nature of the growth of knowledge, that parallels the advancement ofobservational discovery.

    * [Emphasis added by me, Loup-Bouc] *

    If you haveobserved a God, or a transubstantiation of bread and wine into the flesh and blood of some guy called Jesus, or a bean’s having a brain and other organs and DNA of a human or other sentient animal, you need to be committed to a nut house, like the rest of religious humanity.

    • Replies:@Rogue
    @Loup-Bouc

    you need to be committed to a nut house, like the rest of religious humanity

    Umm, you are presumably aware, Loopy, that you are almost certainly suggesting that vastly more than half the World's population should be consigned to the nut-house, based on what you've written above. Not just today, but at every single time in all of past history.

    There are many different kinds of nuts...

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc, @Loup-Bouc

    ,@Art
    @Loup-Bouc

    Egos do not “know” anything. I suggest you read the works of Sigmund Freud and Wilhelm Reich, especially Wilhelm Reich’s “CHARACTER ANALYSIS

    You may be the only one on the internet that does not get the full meaning of "know it all ego." I am sure that no one else had to google it. (And you still got it wrong.)

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

  • @Art
    @Loup-Bouc

    Pythagoras believed humans and beans were spawned from the same source.

    By the way --- beans and humans do share some of the same biological structure and and I believe DNA.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc, @Loup-Bouc

    Please submit proof.

  • @Polemos
    @Loup-Bouc


    Non-human animals do very well without inventing or hallucinating “higher powers,” deities, “intelligent design” of the universe…….(except to the extent that humans intrude, much on the premise that some human-invented God authorizes, or commands, the intrusion.)
     
    How did you determine the truth of your claim?

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @Loup-Bouc

    How were you born such an idiot?

    • Replies:@Polemos
    @Loup-Bouc

    How was I born such an idiot?

    So, you don't have an answer to the question?

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Fool

    You wrote:


    A legitimate study of STEM leads one towards theology, not away from it. The most striking deficiency of our symbolic analysis of reality is the complete (COMPLETE) inability to even begin to explain/justify/describe consciousness.
     
    (1) Neither science's limitations nor physicists’ limitations can prove the existence of anything not physical — a God or any religious "explanation" of either the inanimate physical world or the origin or nature of consciousness.

    (2) Very many non-human animals are conscious — sentientAND aware of (a) environment and its sensorially perceivable influences and (b) their internal experience. See, e.g., https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2643&context=utk_graddiss&httpsredir=1&referer=AND the references it cites.

    Non-human animals do very well without inventing or hallucinating "higher powers," deities, "intelligent design" of the universe.......(except to the extent that humans intrude, much on the premise that some human-invented God authorizes, or commands, the intrusion.)

    No "higher power," deity, "intelligent design," or other religious dreck supplies or maintains the existence or consciousness of non-human animals whose existence predated Homo sapiens by about 550 million years — on a planet [Earth]not "created" in 6 days (or duringany duration) by any hallucinated God, or per eventual consequence of a junk-science-hallucinated "Big Bang."

    RE: the Big Bang crap, see, e.g., https://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/398-science/23003-mad-e-maticsAND sources it cites

    Nature is because it is — happens because it happens — because of its own forces, operations, functions, and directions. Science cannot explain, even actually grasp, nature, much because science is a largely egotistical enterprise of a puny species enamored by itself so much that it cannot perceive the error-engendering effects of its arrogance.

    Cf.,e.g., https://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/398-science/23003-mad-e-maticsAND sources it citesAND consider also,e.g., how risibly fumbling has been science's encounter with the alleged "Covi-19 "pandemic."

    (3) Aristotle was not a physicist, but a failure of the fields of logic and philosophy. Aristotle's "excluded middle" suffices to expose the joke of Aristotle's logic, math, and philosophy "contributions." Aristotle's "physics" was absurd.

    Aristotle’s contributions to the physical sciences are less impressive than his researches in the life sciences. In works such as On Generation and Corruption and On the Heavens, he presented a world-picture that included many features inherited from his pre-Socratic predecessors. From Empedocles (c. 490–430 BCE) he adopted the view that the universe is ultimately composed of different combinations of the four fundamental elements of earth, water, air, and fire. Each element is characterized by the possession of a unique pair of the four elementary qualities of heat, cold, wetness, and dryness: earth is cold and dry, water is cold and wet, air is hot and wet, and fire is hot and dry. Each element has a natural place in an ordered cosmos, and each has an innate tendency to move toward this natural place. Thus, earthy solids naturally fall, while fire, unless prevented, rises ever higher. Other motions of the elements are possible but are “violent.” (A relic of Aristotle’s distinction is preserved in the modern-day contrast between natural and violent death.)

    Aristotle’s vision of the cosmos also owes much to Plato’s dialogue Timaeus. As in that work, the Earth is at the centre of the universe, and around it the Moon, the Sun, and the other planets revolve in a succession of concentric crystalline spheres. The heavenly bodies are not compounds of the four terrestrial elements but are made up of a superior fifth element, or “quintessence.” In addition, the heavenly bodies have souls, or supernatural intellects, which guide them in their travels through the cosmos

     

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Aristotle/Physics-and-metaphysics

    For his physics and astronomy, Aristotle has become identified as the barrier to scientific progress in the renaissance.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2002/jan/15/peopleinscience

    See also,e.g., https://www.wired.com/story/aristotle-was-wrong-very-wrong-but-people-still-love-him/

    But even if Aristotle had been a physicist who had solved, reliably, at least one question of the physical world, stillnothing logical (and certainlynothing empirical) follows from Aristotle's having "postulated quite a few things which are not addressed, even tangentially, by modern physics" [your assertion].

    Aristotle postulated that slavery wasnatural andnecessary, even for the good of the slaves. And Aristotle's "four fundamental elements of earth, water, air, and fire" (etc.) "physics" [see above] was quite ludicrous. The Ancients — even the much "enlightenment"-worshiped Greeks — erred much more than not, even oft-ridiculously.

    Pythagoras WAS a physicist (and mathematician). Pythagorus insisted that humans must not eat beans. Humans must strive for tranquility and peace, enjoy a harmony like the harmony of the heavens. Humans must purify their bodies and psyches so they (humans) can return to the sun and rise to the stars. Bean-eating would defeat that glorious goal. Eating a bean was like eating human flesh.

    Pythagoras believed humans and beans were spawned from the same source. He conducted a “scientific” experiment to prove his belief.

    He buried some beans in mud for a few weeks, then exhumed them. He thought they resembled human fetuses and “deduced” an intimate relationship of humans and beans. Bean-eating was, therefore, akin to eating human flesh. And if one crushed or dirtied a bean, one would do a heinous act like killing a human.

    Ignorance, arrogance, ego-worship, or virtual insanity cannot transmute a scientist's or non-scientist's bullshit into truth.

    (4) Your post — including its stupid first sentence — does not read like the writing of a physicist. It reads like the writing of an advocate of "intelligent design."

    Replies: @Fool, @Polemos, @Art, @Art

    Pythagoras believed humans and beans were spawned from the same source.

    By the way — beans and humans do share some of the same biological structure and and I believe DNA.

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Art

    Please submit proof.

    ,@Loup-Bouc
    @Art

    Perhaps you derived your <> psychotic fantasy here: https://satirev.org/us/study-finds-humans-share-more-dna-lima-beans-chimpanzees#.X2_kZrjXBXQ
    If THAT is your source, you must not have noticed that the journal's name is "Satire V" and that the article's closing paragraph is:


    As of press time, the FDA had released a report that the Venter Institute’s lima beans had been contaminated with horsemeat.
     
  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Fool

    You wrote:


    A legitimate study of STEM leads one towards theology, not away from it. The most striking deficiency of our symbolic analysis of reality is the complete (COMPLETE) inability to even begin to explain/justify/describe consciousness.
     
    (1) Neither science's limitations nor physicists’ limitations can prove the existence of anything not physical — a God or any religious "explanation" of either the inanimate physical world or the origin or nature of consciousness.

    (2) Very many non-human animals are conscious — sentientAND aware of (a) environment and its sensorially perceivable influences and (b) their internal experience. See, e.g., https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2643&context=utk_graddiss&httpsredir=1&referer=AND the references it cites.

    Non-human animals do very well without inventing or hallucinating "higher powers," deities, "intelligent design" of the universe.......(except to the extent that humans intrude, much on the premise that some human-invented God authorizes, or commands, the intrusion.)

    No "higher power," deity, "intelligent design," or other religious dreck supplies or maintains the existence or consciousness of non-human animals whose existence predated Homo sapiens by about 550 million years — on a planet [Earth]not "created" in 6 days (or duringany duration) by any hallucinated God, or per eventual consequence of a junk-science-hallucinated "Big Bang."

    RE: the Big Bang crap, see, e.g., https://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/398-science/23003-mad-e-maticsAND sources it cites

    Nature is because it is — happens because it happens — because of its own forces, operations, functions, and directions. Science cannot explain, even actually grasp, nature, much because science is a largely egotistical enterprise of a puny species enamored by itself so much that it cannot perceive the error-engendering effects of its arrogance.

    Cf.,e.g., https://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/398-science/23003-mad-e-maticsAND sources it citesAND consider also,e.g., how risibly fumbling has been science's encounter with the alleged "Covi-19 "pandemic."

    (3) Aristotle was not a physicist, but a failure of the fields of logic and philosophy. Aristotle's "excluded middle" suffices to expose the joke of Aristotle's logic, math, and philosophy "contributions." Aristotle's "physics" was absurd.

    Aristotle’s contributions to the physical sciences are less impressive than his researches in the life sciences. In works such as On Generation and Corruption and On the Heavens, he presented a world-picture that included many features inherited from his pre-Socratic predecessors. From Empedocles (c. 490–430 BCE) he adopted the view that the universe is ultimately composed of different combinations of the four fundamental elements of earth, water, air, and fire. Each element is characterized by the possession of a unique pair of the four elementary qualities of heat, cold, wetness, and dryness: earth is cold and dry, water is cold and wet, air is hot and wet, and fire is hot and dry. Each element has a natural place in an ordered cosmos, and each has an innate tendency to move toward this natural place. Thus, earthy solids naturally fall, while fire, unless prevented, rises ever higher. Other motions of the elements are possible but are “violent.” (A relic of Aristotle’s distinction is preserved in the modern-day contrast between natural and violent death.)

    Aristotle’s vision of the cosmos also owes much to Plato’s dialogue Timaeus. As in that work, the Earth is at the centre of the universe, and around it the Moon, the Sun, and the other planets revolve in a succession of concentric crystalline spheres. The heavenly bodies are not compounds of the four terrestrial elements but are made up of a superior fifth element, or “quintessence.” In addition, the heavenly bodies have souls, or supernatural intellects, which guide them in their travels through the cosmos

     

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Aristotle/Physics-and-metaphysics

    For his physics and astronomy, Aristotle has become identified as the barrier to scientific progress in the renaissance.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2002/jan/15/peopleinscience

    See also,e.g., https://www.wired.com/story/aristotle-was-wrong-very-wrong-but-people-still-love-him/

    But even if Aristotle had been a physicist who had solved, reliably, at least one question of the physical world, stillnothing logical (and certainlynothing empirical) follows from Aristotle's having "postulated quite a few things which are not addressed, even tangentially, by modern physics" [your assertion].

    Aristotle postulated that slavery wasnatural andnecessary, even for the good of the slaves. And Aristotle's "four fundamental elements of earth, water, air, and fire" (etc.) "physics" [see above] was quite ludicrous. The Ancients — even the much "enlightenment"-worshiped Greeks — erred much more than not, even oft-ridiculously.

    Pythagoras WAS a physicist (and mathematician). Pythagorus insisted that humans must not eat beans. Humans must strive for tranquility and peace, enjoy a harmony like the harmony of the heavens. Humans must purify their bodies and psyches so they (humans) can return to the sun and rise to the stars. Bean-eating would defeat that glorious goal. Eating a bean was like eating human flesh.

    Pythagoras believed humans and beans were spawned from the same source. He conducted a “scientific” experiment to prove his belief.

    He buried some beans in mud for a few weeks, then exhumed them. He thought they resembled human fetuses and “deduced” an intimate relationship of humans and beans. Bean-eating was, therefore, akin to eating human flesh. And if one crushed or dirtied a bean, one would do a heinous act like killing a human.

    Ignorance, arrogance, ego-worship, or virtual insanity cannot transmute a scientist's or non-scientist's bullshit into truth.

    (4) Your post — including its stupid first sentence — does not read like the writing of a physicist. It reads like the writing of an advocate of "intelligent design."

    Replies: @Fool, @Polemos, @Art, @Art

    Why is it most always, that the anti-god/anti-Christians, have the biggest know it all egos? Trashing old previous scientific thoughts is the sign of a loser.

    They show themselves to have zero understanding about the nature of the growth of knowledge, that parallels the advancement of observational discovery.

    • Replies:@Loup-Bouc
    @Art


    Why is it most always, that the anti-god/anti-Christians, have the biggest know it all egos?
     
    Egos do not "know"anything. I suggest you read the works of Sigmund Freud and Wilhelm Reich, especially Wilhelm Reich's "CHARACTER ANALYSIS (Farrar, Straus, and Giroux 1972, paperback 1990), Paperback ISBN-13: 978-0-374-50!J8IJ–l, Paperback ISBN-lO: 0-:374-50980-8,excerpted here: https://wilhelmreichtrust.org/character_analysis.pdf.

    Trashing old previous scientific thoughts....
     
    I guess you refer to my treatment of Aristotle's idiotic "physics" and Pythagoras's lunatic notion that beans were sentient creatures akin to humans. From your defending such dross, one must deduce that you are a God-fearing Christian or a follower of some other hallucination-filled immensely dangerous insanity called religion.

    ...the nature of the growth of knowledge, that parallels the advancement ofobservational discovery.
     
    * [Emphasis added by me, Loup-Bouc] *

    If you haveobserved a God, or a transubstantiation of bread and wine into the flesh and blood of some guy called Jesus, or a bean's having a brain and other organs and DNA of a human or other sentient animal, you need to be committed to a nut house, like the rest of religious humanity.

    Replies: @Rogue, @Art

  • @Polemos
    @Loup-Bouc


    Non-human animals do very well without inventing or hallucinating “higher powers,” deities, “intelligent design” of the universe…….(except to the extent that humans intrude, much on the premise that some human-invented God authorizes, or commands, the intrusion.)
     
    How did you determine the truth of your claim?

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @Loup-Bouc

    Loopy regularly talks to animals.

    • Replies:@Polemos
    @Fran Taubman

    If he talkedwith animals, he might learn something of their ways, thinking, perspectives, and cultures. Plenty of people talkto animals, even as they squash them. Some of us have the patience to talk with animals and other non-human beings.

    But, given how quickly Loup-Bouc starts to insult people who challenge his claims and/or his self-assessments, it's evident he doesn't have that kind of patience to do so. What is evident is that he spends a lot of time talking with and writing for himself. It's always the other person who is at fault for having a different perspective, and you can see how one of his persistent ways of engaging with the perspectives of others is to say that the other person didn't read what he wrote and then he dishes out a lot of ridicule and attempts to humiliate the other, losing the plot along the way.

    A whole life of accomplishments — as our old friend will eventually remind us — and it is still not enough emotional security or personal valor for him to pass over gracefully our ignorant selves left wallowing in mud. How weighty are the pearls he throws at us, such swine! Perhaps I am so short-sighted, and maybe it is an honor that someone who has excelled in both law and medicine takes the time in his post-retirement to correct our grammar, call us names, and rub our faces in our own horse shit. He could be helping write the laws of his local community or volunteering as a CASA, using his life experiences for constructive and healthy ends to those neighbors and people who need him the most. But, instead, like the rest of us unemployed and innumerate, ungrammatical blockheads, he's here among us, —the animals.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Fool

    You wrote:


    A legitimate study of STEM leads one towards theology, not away from it. The most striking deficiency of our symbolic analysis of reality is the complete (COMPLETE) inability to even begin to explain/justify/describe consciousness.
     
    (1) Neither science's limitations nor physicists’ limitations can prove the existence of anything not physical — a God or any religious "explanation" of either the inanimate physical world or the origin or nature of consciousness.

    (2) Very many non-human animals are conscious — sentientAND aware of (a) environment and its sensorially perceivable influences and (b) their internal experience. See, e.g., https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2643&context=utk_graddiss&httpsredir=1&referer=AND the references it cites.

    Non-human animals do very well without inventing or hallucinating "higher powers," deities, "intelligent design" of the universe.......(except to the extent that humans intrude, much on the premise that some human-invented God authorizes, or commands, the intrusion.)

    No "higher power," deity, "intelligent design," or other religious dreck supplies or maintains the existence or consciousness of non-human animals whose existence predated Homo sapiens by about 550 million years — on a planet [Earth]not "created" in 6 days (or duringany duration) by any hallucinated God, or per eventual consequence of a junk-science-hallucinated "Big Bang."

    RE: the Big Bang crap, see, e.g., https://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/398-science/23003-mad-e-maticsAND sources it cites

    Nature is because it is — happens because it happens — because of its own forces, operations, functions, and directions. Science cannot explain, even actually grasp, nature, much because science is a largely egotistical enterprise of a puny species enamored by itself so much that it cannot perceive the error-engendering effects of its arrogance.

    Cf.,e.g., https://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/398-science/23003-mad-e-maticsAND sources it citesAND consider also,e.g., how risibly fumbling has been science's encounter with the alleged "Covi-19 "pandemic."

    (3) Aristotle was not a physicist, but a failure of the fields of logic and philosophy. Aristotle's "excluded middle" suffices to expose the joke of Aristotle's logic, math, and philosophy "contributions." Aristotle's "physics" was absurd.

    Aristotle’s contributions to the physical sciences are less impressive than his researches in the life sciences. In works such as On Generation and Corruption and On the Heavens, he presented a world-picture that included many features inherited from his pre-Socratic predecessors. From Empedocles (c. 490–430 BCE) he adopted the view that the universe is ultimately composed of different combinations of the four fundamental elements of earth, water, air, and fire. Each element is characterized by the possession of a unique pair of the four elementary qualities of heat, cold, wetness, and dryness: earth is cold and dry, water is cold and wet, air is hot and wet, and fire is hot and dry. Each element has a natural place in an ordered cosmos, and each has an innate tendency to move toward this natural place. Thus, earthy solids naturally fall, while fire, unless prevented, rises ever higher. Other motions of the elements are possible but are “violent.” (A relic of Aristotle’s distinction is preserved in the modern-day contrast between natural and violent death.)

    Aristotle’s vision of the cosmos also owes much to Plato’s dialogue Timaeus. As in that work, the Earth is at the centre of the universe, and around it the Moon, the Sun, and the other planets revolve in a succession of concentric crystalline spheres. The heavenly bodies are not compounds of the four terrestrial elements but are made up of a superior fifth element, or “quintessence.” In addition, the heavenly bodies have souls, or supernatural intellects, which guide them in their travels through the cosmos

     

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Aristotle/Physics-and-metaphysics

    For his physics and astronomy, Aristotle has become identified as the barrier to scientific progress in the renaissance.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2002/jan/15/peopleinscience

    See also,e.g., https://www.wired.com/story/aristotle-was-wrong-very-wrong-but-people-still-love-him/

    But even if Aristotle had been a physicist who had solved, reliably, at least one question of the physical world, stillnothing logical (and certainlynothing empirical) follows from Aristotle's having "postulated quite a few things which are not addressed, even tangentially, by modern physics" [your assertion].

    Aristotle postulated that slavery wasnatural andnecessary, even for the good of the slaves. And Aristotle's "four fundamental elements of earth, water, air, and fire" (etc.) "physics" [see above] was quite ludicrous. The Ancients — even the much "enlightenment"-worshiped Greeks — erred much more than not, even oft-ridiculously.

    Pythagoras WAS a physicist (and mathematician). Pythagorus insisted that humans must not eat beans. Humans must strive for tranquility and peace, enjoy a harmony like the harmony of the heavens. Humans must purify their bodies and psyches so they (humans) can return to the sun and rise to the stars. Bean-eating would defeat that glorious goal. Eating a bean was like eating human flesh.

    Pythagoras believed humans and beans were spawned from the same source. He conducted a “scientific” experiment to prove his belief.

    He buried some beans in mud for a few weeks, then exhumed them. He thought they resembled human fetuses and “deduced” an intimate relationship of humans and beans. Bean-eating was, therefore, akin to eating human flesh. And if one crushed or dirtied a bean, one would do a heinous act like killing a human.

    Ignorance, arrogance, ego-worship, or virtual insanity cannot transmute a scientist's or non-scientist's bullshit into truth.

    (4) Your post — including its stupid first sentence — does not read like the writing of a physicist. It reads like the writing of an advocate of "intelligent design."

    Replies: @Fool, @Polemos, @Art, @Art

    Non-human animals do very well without inventing or hallucinating “higher powers,” deities, “intelligent design” of the universe…….(except to the extent that humans intrude, much on the premise that some human-invented God authorizes, or commands, the intrusion.)

    How did you determine the truth of your claim?

    • Replies:@Fran Taubman
    @Polemos

    Loopy regularly talks to animals.

    Replies: @Polemos

    ,@Loup-Bouc
    @Polemos

    How were you born such an idiot?

    Replies: @Polemos

  • @TTSSYF
    @Tommy Thompson

    I'm glad you like and admire Muslims. I also have met many Muslims who are charming and nice. But I have found that, underneath that charming exterior, lies a burning hatred and resentment of the West that can't be entirely suppressed. And no, I don't think the Muslim man resented my handling the Koran because I am female. I think he resented it because, consistent with 7th-century thinking, he believes that a physical Koran is holy and should not be in the possession of or handled by infidels. We are talking about people who believe that, as "good" Muslims, they must pray five times a day, facing toward Mecca, must sleep with their beds facing Mecca, who pepper their daily speech with references to Allah and Mohammed, and who must consult a Imam on the Islamic way to even the most mundane things. It is robotic. Islam also has no problem with cousin marriage...although, in my opinion, one of the main problems with Islam IS cousin marriage. It has has gone on for too many centuries and, in my opinion, has bred fanaticism and over-emotionalism as well as a disproportionate number of genetic disorders.

    I don't like religious fanatics of any type. If it were up to me, there would be no tax-exempt status for churches, synagogues, or mosques. I have no problem with people having private religious beliefs or coming together as groups with shared beliefs, but other than that, I think it should be a private matter since it can't be proven nor disproven. I have special animus toward Islam because it is mired in 7th-century thinking and customs, and they are bringing it to our shores. You gloss over the cold, hard facts I point out about the Muslim world, saying there are "a few things that need to be addressed" or some such dismissive terms, or use a diversion by claiming acts of violence committed by Muslims, in the name of Islam, are actually committed under false flags. Sorry, but I don't buy that.

    Just as the Dems are using the "peaceful protesters" who are rioting, destroying property, looting, and getting in the faces of law-abiding citizens attempting to have dinner in an open-air restaurant, as their shock troops, so do too many Muslims silently cheer when Islamic jihadis commit acts of violence in the name of Islam. I agree with what the late great Lawrence Auster said: That we should confine Muslims to their historical lands and leave them alone until they figure it out.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Let’s not mince words. All religions are suspect, but Islam is a pest.


    Video Link

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  • anon[373] • Disclaimer says:

    For decades ,US ,Europe ,and Arab have talked non – stop about 2 state solutions while Israel has pushed the boundaries of the lands ,resettled the land with usurpers, has stolen US technologies ,bribed the US congress and Senate to get more free money,military gadgets, doles ,and suppress Palestinian voice , US knowingly has marched behind Israel. That’s the natural consequence of the corruption and bribes . Arab and Europe have figured out that they should join the open conspiracy to survive .

    PLO did, Arafat did, and Abu Mazen did . They lie in ruins , destroyed . USA is on its way of destruction, Europe willl follow . These Arabs will be told by Israel , just as Israel has told Bush Cheney that they didn’t follow all the advices given to White House through the neoconservative resulting into failures ,that to survive Arab dynastic leaders should toe each move and directives of Israel . They would be destroyed also by very Israel like the Palestine leaders .

    To understand the Jews ,we need to look into how Israel burrows into and destroys from inside .

    Peace project. – Oslo , 2 state solution is a good way to start .

  • @MollyA
    oh God (excuse my French), the "religion causes wars argument again." Well-if religion causes wars and division, it is indeed better not to have religion. But alas, there are countless other causes far more salient. Like money, land, power, revenge, trade wars, plain old bullyism. Religion is rarely the true cause. It's an excuse.
    Spiritual yearning being what it is, some correspondence will take its place. The pope is -- so last millenium. As I said, all religions become corrupted before some newer spiritual philosophy gradually takes over. I'm not "peddling," I'm expressing an opinion as you are.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    Are you going to tell me that Israel (Jews) aren’t fomenting wars and genocide against non Jews? Didn’t the crusades murder lots of non Christians, all in the name of their BS religion? Didn’t Yugoslavia break up along ethnic / religious lines? Didn’t the Muslims move to Pakistan from India to form that country? Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Religion is a dividing force in the world. It’s all bullshit, but people appear to prefer their brand of bullshit as opposed to the other guy’s and are more than willing to kill for it.

    I’m not claiming religion is the only or even main consideration today. It is however a consideration. The very idea of religion – believe in some fictitious entity – leads directly to government – belief in some nonexistent benefit to the masses of imbeciles that vote to keep that bogus system alive.

    What should take religions place is atheism and scientific knowledge about nature. Once the mysticism is removed and common sense is applied, there’s no need for sky gods.

    Throne and alter were twins–two vultures from the same egg.
    To attack the king was treason; to dispute the priest, blasphemy.
    The sword and cross were allies.
    Together they attacked the rights of men; they defended each other.
    The king owned the bodies of men, the priests the souls.
    One lived on taxes collected by force, the other on alms collected by fear.
    Both robbers, both beggars.
    The king made laws, the priest made creeds.
    With bowed backs the people carried the burdens of one, with open-mouthed wonder received the dogmas of the other.
    The king said rags and hovels for you, robes and palaces for me.
    The priest said God made you ignorant and immoral; He made me holy and wise; you are the sheep, I am the shepherd; your fleeces belong to me.
    You must not reason, you must not contradict, you must believe.
    Robert G. Ingersoll

    Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
    Denis Diderot

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @Rogue

    I think this is the third time you've repeated the same thing. Apparently it's all you know and all you can say, but it amounts only to what you've picked up in passing, not anything you've studied in depth.


    for absolute sure [Hitler] was a disaster for Germany.

     
    Fact: Germany was already experiencing disaster when Hitler entered the scene and no one knew how to fix it. Isn't that correct? Do you know, or can you say (or David Irving or M. Hoffman) how things would have turned out for Germany if Hitler had been killed or ousted by the Left wing of the NSDAP led by Gregor (and Otto) Strasser? Would disaster have been averted? If you say yes, you're lying. It may have led to an eventual Soviet takeover.

    The US, UK and France were already out to destroy Germany as a leading nationbefore the Great War took place (1914-18). AH took on the mission to save Germans from this fate of Jewish domination. His onlyalternative was to go along with Jewish rule, as the others were doing. Indeed, this was a big GAMBLE. In the end, Germany was overwhelmed by these evil forces, but not before showing the world what heroism looked like, what superior humanity looks like -- an inspiring and hugely popular vision that hasn't been defeated yet, 80 years on, despite every attempt to obliterate it. That's success, and perhaps all that could have been achieved considering the state of human development.

    I notice you "Agreed" with JamesinNM above (Sept. 25, 12:32 am) who suggests the 'answer' lies at missiontoIsrael.org, a Christian Identity site. That tells me you connect with Michael Hoffman on the Christian angle but may not know that Hoffman intended to write a second book (part 2) to his "Adolf Hitler - Enemy of the German People," but it's poor reception and 'panning' caused him to cancel that plan. (Bad sales, I guess.) Your changed position could be a result of your conversion to CI or any other Christian perspective, and your peculiar understanding thereof.

    To your question: Yes, it was unconditional surrender. Hitler tried many times to work out an agreement for ending the fighting, including stepping down himself, but was always rebuffed. His German government knew well what the Allies, led by Jews, intended by unconditional surrender: no mercy at all. For you to ridicule that as "mean plans" shows you may not be what you're trying to pass yourself off as. I agree with Col General Jodl who stated at Nuremberg:

    "Then, to advise to surrender I did not. That was totally out of the question;no soldier would have done that; it would not have been of any value. [...] there were, in the winder of 1944, many reasons against it. [...] The capitulation required the standstill on the fronts at the spot where they were, and their capture by the adversaries who stood across the line. [...] Millions of prisoners had to camp in the middle of the winter in open fields. Death would have reaped an immense harvest, and above all, those nearly three and one-half million still standing at the eastern front would have fallen completely into the hands of the eastern adversary. It was our desire to bring as many people as possible to the west. One could do that only if the two fronts moved closer to each other. Those were the mainly military considerations we deliberated toward the end of the war."

     

    What considerations are you following in taking your cheap shots at these momentous and grave decisions for humanity and posterity? I do not hold silly or caricature views of Adolf Hitler; I hold respectful views. Your arrogance is based on ignorance.

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @Rogue, @R2b

    What considerations are you following in taking your cheap shots at these momentous and grave decisions for humanity and posterity? I do not hold silly or caricature views of Adolf Hitler; I hold respectful views. Your arrogance is based on ignorance.

    Caroline you need to come clean. You have a no holds barred crush on the Führer. If could transport back in time to be Eva Braun you would in a heart beat. You are in love with him. Admit it. Whenever anyone gets close to proving that Hitler was (a) mad as a hatter. (b) a murderous psychopath that had such a narcissistic personality disorder he refused to listen to his top military advisors even in the face of defeat. (c) left starving 12 year old boys defending Berlin, while cities burned while he was holed up in his bunker planing his exit. Why didn’t he go out fighting?
    You are just in love with him, beyond rationality. Thats what love is a suspension of reality.

    When anyone challenges you, you challenge them on their intelligence, which is just silly. Neo Nazis are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

    Did Ron ever publish your revised population data showing that the population of Jews actually increased after the war because there was a statistical boo boo? No? I guess it was not very sound statistically hey?
    Listen it takes a women, even a Jewess like me to see that another woman is hopelessly in love. Maybe you will see him oneway and you can make up for lost time. You always say he was such a gentlemen around women. LOL. Just the generals he murdered on the spot.

    • Replies:@Rogue
    @Fran Taubman

    You have a no holds barred crush on the Führer.

    Fran, I'm not sure I'd ever normally agree with you - but in this case I think you might be onto something!

    From the little I've read of Carolyn, she seems to believe in reincarnation, past lives etc. Could it be that she thinks she was once Aunty Eva??

    LOL!!

  • @geokat62
    @Carolyn Yeager


    Good Grief! You’re not White.
     
    You’re razor sharp... nothing gets by you, lol.

    I’ve repeatedly disclosed on this webzine that I have Hellenic roots.

    Plus, don’t put both my comments and yours in blockquotes without distinguishing who they’re from – it’s misleading. Your second quote is not from me.
     
    Never suggested it was from you. I used that quote to emphasize that goyim are what’s left over when you subtract Jews from “all the world’s” population.

    ... but it takes decisiveness and dedication beyond warmed-over homilies.
     
    Warmed-over homilies? Pointing out that Supremacist Jewry like to divide and rule isn’t helpful? I happen to think it’s critical to prevailing over our common adversary.

    Click on my “website” and read my current Mein Kampf posts.
     
    Ya vol herr kapitan!

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager, @karel

    Very courteous of you to anglicize the ”Ya vol herr kapitan!” for Carolyn the Foxhunter. Although she is a cheerleader of Hitler, she speaks no German. I do not know what you actually wanted to say, but you are, perhaps deliberately, confusing the Foxhunter. ”Kapitän” was not a rank in the Wehrmacht or the SS. The phrase in fact comes from the song ”Das ist die Liebe der Matrosen” sang by the great Comedian Harmonists. Fine singing. I can warmly recommend the following clip to the young and old.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5muTYpJuzzk
    Video Link

    • Thanks:geokat62
  • @Tommy Thompson
    @TTSSYF

    Yes, my point exactly, your friends were the types living in caves.

    Have you been to small towns in Central Texas with their recently manufactured Zio-Christianity based around Charismistic Preachers with made up gospels that until recently regularly dissed Catholics, Blacks, Hispanics, Muslim and others but more rarely Jews? I cannot condemn Christianity because of them, nor can I condemn Judaism over the actions of some, say Zionist-Settlers, as neither are necessarily a significant representation of the their calling.

    By the way your friend asking you how you got a copy of the Koran, has nothing to do with being female, as it is surely mostly females that read the Koran and females that mostly read the Bible in this day and age. How can you judge a whole religion of 1 billion Muslims or 1.5 billion Christians or even 25 million professed Jews, based on a few encounters and statements of a handful that are not even from the religiously qualified? As for the veil or hijab, this has been historically a Christian requirement to demonstrate modesty even more than Islamic up until the recent past.

    I certainly have had many encounters with many and many Muslims and in various Muslim lands and find them overall to be very dignified, proper in etiquette, generous and welcoming to foreigners and strangers, whatever ones background might be, even if Jewish. This is why I find perplexing on your proclamations.

    Do you let a few encounters in daily life lead you to overall general assumptions condemning many millions?? That is the foundation of racism, bigotry and unbridled hatred, which emanates from ignorance and inferiority-superiority complexes and is neither stems from Christian or Islamic theology.

    Replies: @TTSSYF, @MrVoid

    I agree with your asssesment of Muslims. I, too, have found many of them to be friendly. I think a lot of anti-Muslim hatred is scapegoating. Normie conservatives know that things are amiss, so they instinctively know something needs to be attacked, but they clobber the wrong target.

    Your defense of Judaism is something that I cannot agree with. According to a Gallup poll something like 95% of Jews have a favorable view of Israel. Another commenter on this website said that the number of American Jews who serve in the Israeli army every year is now in excess of those serving in the American army. Israel is, like it or not, the political expression of Judaism. Most of the Jews who claim non-observance still practice Judaism in their own way because ethnic supremacism and hatred of gentiles is, in fact, what inhabits Judaism’s dark heart. (Hatred of others and in-group chauvinism is not dependent on belief in any god or cosmological order.) The notion that only a few Jews are bad apples is rediculous. The opposite is the case. Only a few are good apples. Ron Unz is one of them for instance. He provides this website where non status-quo conformant points of view are allowed, even if he and I might vote differently on important issues. I suspect that he gets a lot of dirty looks in his synagogue, or treatment that is far worse. I think that Michael Levin’s retreat from conservative advocacy was because of social pressure from other Jews. He complained that it was all about David Duke’s presence at AR conferences, but one suspects that that was just a deflection.

  • Here is an excerpt from jewish author Theodore N. Kaufman’s book“Germany Must Perish”: This vile tome advocated the complete destruction of German culture, music, society, architecture, and everything German. In other words, total genocide of Germany and the German people.
    Germany has lost its war. She sues for peace. The imperative demands of the victor people that Germany must perish forever makes it obligatory for the leaders to select mass sterilization of the Germans as the best means of wiping them out permanently. They proceed to:
    1. Immediately and completely disarm the German army and have all armaments removed from German territory.
    2. Place all German utility and heavy industrial plants under heavy guard, and replace German workers by those of Allied nationality.
    3. Segregate the German army into groups, concentrate them in severely restricted areas, and summarily sterilize them.
    4. Organize the civilian population, both male and female, within territorial sectors, and effect their sterilization.
    5. Divide the German army (after its sterilization has been completed) into labor battalions, and allocate their services toward the rebuilding of those cities which they ruined.
    6. Partition Germany and apportion its lands. The accompanying map gives some idea of possible land adjustments which might be made in connection with Germany’s extinction.
    7. Restrict all German civilian travel beyond established borders until all sterilization has been completed.
    8. Compel the German population of the apportioned territories to learn the language of its area, and within one year to cease the publication of all books, newspapers and notices in the German language, as well as to restrict German-language broadcasts and discontinue the maintenance of German-language schools.
    9. Make one exception to an otherwise severely strict enforcement of total sterilization, by exempting from such treatment only those Germans whose relatives, being citizens of various victor nations, assume financial responsibility for their emigration and maintenance and moral responsibility for their actions.
    Thus, into an oblivion which she would have visited upon the world, exits Germany.

    Now if you were a German living at that time, what would you think about jews?

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @geokat62

    This is my last reply, geokat. Talking with you is pleasant enough but like walking around the same block over and over.


    Warmed-over homilies? Pointing out that Supremacist Jewry like to divide and rule isn’t helpful? I happen to think it’s critical to prevailing over our common adversary.
     
    That Jews like to divide and rule has been said so many times - everyone knows - that's why it's a warmed-over homily.
    Best wishes

    Replies: @geokat62

    Best wishes

    Likewise

  • @geokat62
    @Carolyn Yeager


    Good Grief! You’re not White.
     
    You’re razor sharp... nothing gets by you, lol.

    I’ve repeatedly disclosed on this webzine that I have Hellenic roots.

    Plus, don’t put both my comments and yours in blockquotes without distinguishing who they’re from – it’s misleading. Your second quote is not from me.
     
    Never suggested it was from you. I used that quote to emphasize that goyim are what’s left over when you subtract Jews from “all the world’s” population.

    ... but it takes decisiveness and dedication beyond warmed-over homilies.
     
    Warmed-over homilies? Pointing out that Supremacist Jewry like to divide and rule isn’t helpful? I happen to think it’s critical to prevailing over our common adversary.

    Click on my “website” and read my current Mein Kampf posts.
     
    Ya vol herr kapitan!

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager, @karel

    This is my last reply, geokat. Talking with you is pleasant enough but like walking around the same block over and over.

    Warmed-over homilies? Pointing out that Supremacist Jewry like to divide and rule isn’t helpful? I happen to think it’s critical to prevailing over our common adversary.

    That Jews like to divide and rule has been said so many times – everyone knows – that’s why it’s a warmed-over homily.
    Best wishes

    • Replies:@geokat62
    @Carolyn Yeager


    Best wishes
     
    Likewise
  • @Rogue
    @Carolyn Yeager

    To call Hitler “a gambler” doesn’t mean a thing. What successful war leader doesn’t take gambles?

    Indeed. But gambling can become reckless and that's what happened to Hitler. He ultimately failed - he wasn't a success. He gambled recklessly until he inevitably lost it all. Typical of gamblers.

    You’re mistaken that “Suvorov’s thesis is almost certainly BS” — the broad consensus is that he is correct

    Broad consensus by whom? Amongst your own revisionist clique? Not sure that means too much. I've listened to a Suvorov lecture about this and was thoroughly unimpressed with the way he came across. And believe me, I did not listen to him with any pre-conceived bias. I discarded the "vanilla" version of WW2 quite a few years ago.

    I have a question for you. After the successful D Day landings and subsequent breakout by the Western Allies in mid 1944, and the utter shredding of Germany's army group centre on the Eastern front during operation Bagration, whatpossible justification could there be for Hitler to continue the war when it was obvious that defeat was utterly inevitable?

    Because the Allies wanted unconditional surrender? And had mean plans for Germany? So fighting to the bitter end was gonna change their point of view? Hardly!

    I do not hold silly, caricature views of Adolf Hitler (like most people I used to), but for absolute sure he was a disaster for Germany.

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

    I think this is the third time you’ve repeated the same thing. Apparently it’s all you know and all you can say, but it amounts only to what you’ve picked up in passing, not anything you’ve studied in depth.

    for absolute sure [Hitler] was a disaster for Germany.

    Fact: Germany was already experiencing disaster when Hitler entered the scene and no one knew how to fix it. Isn’t that correct? Do you know, or can you say (or David Irving or M. Hoffman) how things would have turned out for Germany if Hitler had been killed or ousted by the Left wing of the NSDAP led by Gregor (and Otto) Strasser? Would disaster have been averted? If you say yes, you’re lying. It may have led to an eventual Soviet takeover.

    The US, UK and France were already out to destroy Germany as a leading nationbefore the Great War took place (1914-18). AH took on the mission to save Germans from this fate of Jewish domination. His onlyalternative was to go along with Jewish rule, as the others were doing. Indeed, this was a big GAMBLE. In the end, Germany was overwhelmed by these evil forces, but not before showing the world what heroism looked like, what superior humanity looks like — an inspiring and hugely popular vision that hasn’t been defeated yet, 80 years on, despite every attempt to obliterate it. That’s success, and perhaps all that could have been achieved considering the state of human development.

    I notice you “Agreed” with JamesinNM above (Sept. 25, 12:32 am) who suggests the ‘answer’ lies at missiontoIsrael.org, a Christian Identity site. That tells me you connect with Michael Hoffman on the Christian angle but may not know that Hoffman intended to write a second book (part 2) to his “Adolf Hitler – Enemy of the German People,” but it’s poor reception and ‘panning’ caused him to cancel that plan. (Bad sales, I guess.) Your changed position could be a result of your conversion to CI or any other Christian perspective, and your peculiar understanding thereof.

    To your question: Yes, it was unconditional surrender. Hitler tried many times to work out an agreement for ending the fighting, including stepping down himself, but was always rebuffed. His German government knew well what the Allies, led by Jews, intended by unconditional surrender: no mercy at all. For you to ridicule that as “mean plans” shows you may not be what you’re trying to pass yourself off as. I agree with Col General Jodl who stated at Nuremberg:

    “Then, to advise to surrender I did not. That was totally out of the question;no soldier would have done that; it would not have been of any value. […] there were, in the winder of 1944, many reasons against it. […] The capitulation required the standstill on the fronts at the spot where they were, and their capture by the adversaries who stood across the line. […] Millions of prisoners had to camp in the middle of the winter in open fields. Death would have reaped an immense harvest, and above all, those nearly three and one-half million still standing at the eastern front would have fallen completely into the hands of the eastern adversary. It was our desire to bring as many people as possible to the west. One could do that only if the two fronts moved closer to each other. Those were the mainly military considerations we deliberated toward the end of the war.”

    What considerations are you following in taking your cheap shots at these momentous and grave decisions for humanity and posterity? I do not hold silly or caricature views of Adolf Hitler; I hold respectful views. Your arrogance is based on ignorance.

    • Replies:@Fran Taubman
    @Carolyn Yeager


    What considerations are you following in taking your cheap shots at these momentous and grave decisions for humanity and posterity? I do not hold silly or caricature views of Adolf Hitler; I hold respectful views. Your arrogance is based on ignorance.
     
    Caroline you need to come clean. You have a no holds barred crush on the Führer. If could transport back in time to be Eva Braun you would in a heart beat. You are in love with him. Admit it. Whenever anyone gets close to proving that Hitler was (a) mad as a hatter. (b) a murderous psychopath that had such a narcissistic personality disorder he refused to listen to his top military advisors even in the face of defeat. (c) left starving 12 year old boys defending Berlin, while cities burned while he was holed up in his bunker planing his exit. Why didn't he go out fighting?
    You are just in love with him, beyond rationality. Thats what love is a suspension of reality.

    When anyone challenges you, you challenge them on their intelligence, which is just silly. Neo Nazis are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

    Did Ron ever publish your revised population data showing that the population of Jews actually increased after the war because there was a statistical boo boo? No? I guess it was not very sound statistically hey?
    Listen it takes a women, even a Jewess like me to see that another woman is hopelessly in love. Maybe you will see him oneway and you can make up for lost time. You always say he was such a gentlemen around women. LOL. Just the generals he murdered on the spot.

    Replies: @Rogue

    ,@Rogue
    @Carolyn Yeager

    I think this is the third time you’ve repeated the same thing. Apparently it’s all you know and all you can say

    Then I'll say it for the fourth time - Hitler was a disaster for Germany.

    Are historical events simple and straightforward, without context, setting and nuance of the times they took place in? Of course not. But weighed on the scales, Hitler was a disaster for Germany - and most of Europe too.

    ,@R2b
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Isn’t the objection reasonable, which Hoffman conveys, that Germany should have kept a low offensive profile towards Russia, or even a defensive one?

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

  • oh God (excuse my French), the “religion causes wars argument again.” Well-if religion causes wars and division, it is indeed better not to have religion. But alas, there are countless other causes far more salient. Like money, land, power, revenge, trade wars, plain old bullyism. Religion is rarely the true cause. It’s an excuse.
    Spiritual yearning being what it is, some correspondence will take its place. The pope is — so last millenium. As I said, all religions become corrupted before some newer spiritual philosophy gradually takes over. I’m not “peddling,” I’m expressing an opinion as you are.

    • Replies:@RoatanBill
    @MollyA

    Are you going to tell me that Israel (Jews) aren't fomenting wars and genocide against non Jews? Didn't the crusades murder lots of non Christians, all in the name of their BS religion? Didn't Yugoslavia break up along ethnic / religious lines? Didn't the Muslims move to Pakistan from India to form that country? Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Religion is a dividing force in the world. It's all bullshit, but people appear to prefer their brand of bullshit as opposed to the other guy's and are more than willing to kill for it.

    I'm not claiming religion is the only or even main consideration today. It is however a consideration. The very idea of religion - believe in some fictitious entity - leads directly to government - belief in some nonexistent benefit to the masses of imbeciles that vote to keep that bogus system alive.

    What should take religions place is atheism and scientific knowledge about nature. Once the mysticism is removed and common sense is applied, there's no need for sky gods.

    Throne and alter were twins--two vultures from the same egg.
    To attack the king was treason; to dispute the priest, blasphemy.
    The sword and cross were allies.
    Together they attacked the rights of men; they defended each other.
    The king owned the bodies of men, the priests the souls.
    One lived on taxes collected by force, the other on alms collected by fear.
    Both robbers, both beggars.
    The king made laws, the priest made creeds.
    With bowed backs the people carried the burdens of one, with open-mouthed wonder received the dogmas of the other.
    The king said rags and hovels for you, robes and palaces for me.
    The priest said God made you ignorant and immoral; He made me holy and wise; you are the sheep, I am the shepherd; your fleeces belong to me.
    You must not reason, you must not contradict, you must believe.
    Robert G. Ingersoll

    Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
    Denis Diderot

  • @MollyA
    @RoatanBill

    Nonsense. Talmudic Judaism is the corrupted Judaism. Religion is the unification of people around what they believe is guidance from a supreme creator, something outside us, something greater than ourselves. Religion taught good would be rewarded and evil would be extinguished. I have not seen a single major religion whose origins and early history were not much the same--do good unto others, etc. Cultures worth the name develop around a religion. Without it, it society is empty and void of an axis and inspiration. I read of a person who worked in an insane asylum for years who said it was basically people doing evil, and thinking of nasty things to do to others all day long. They weren't there because of an overload of goodness. The workers were always supposed to be kind and helpful and prevent the worse from happening. Sounds like a big portion of the world. This "Talmud" sounds like inmates in a lunatic asylum that banded together.
    Now I understand Doreen Dotan. She is an Israeli who says the Babylonian Talmud was developed by heretic Jews and is a great evil in the world. I think she does believe in the Torah.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    Stop deluding yourself. There is no supreme being.

    The idea of a sky god was cooked up by the scum known as priests to take advantage of their more stupid followers. The priestly class led to the political class. Combined, religion and gov’t are the worst things man has ever invented.

    Religion and gov’t have been the sponsors of wars for millennia. That POS Pope in the Vatican sits in a palace while his pedophile priests fleece the ignorant and poor all over the world.

    Peddle your religion is good somewhere else. I’m immune to that message.

  • @RoatanBill
    Primitive religion is organized schizophrenia.
    Robert Sapolsky

    Since it is no longer permissible to disparage any single faith or creed, let us start disparaging all of them. A religion is a belief system with no basis in reality whatever. Religious belief is without reason and without dignity, and its record is near-universally dreadful.
    Martin Amis

    All religions, with their gods, demigods, prophets, messiahs and saints, are the product of the fancy and credulity of men who have not yet reached the full development and complete personality of their intellectual powers.
    Mikhail A. Bakunin

    Religion is based ... mainly upon fear ... fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand . . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race.
    Bertrand Russell

    History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it.
    Robert A. Heinlein

    Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres, @Moi, @Johnny Rico, @jsigur, @Patricus, @MollyA

    Nonsense. Talmudic Judaism is the corrupted Judaism. Religion is the unification of people around what they believe is guidance from a supreme creator, something outside us, something greater than ourselves. Religion taught good would be rewarded and evil would be extinguished. I have not seen a single major religion whose origins and early history were not much the same–do good unto others, etc. Cultures worth the name develop around a religion. Without it, it society is empty and void of an axis and inspiration. I read of a person who worked in an insane asylum for years who said it was basically people doing evil, and thinking of nasty things to do to others all day long. They weren’t there because of an overload of goodness. The workers were always supposed to be kind and helpful and prevent the worse from happening. Sounds like a big portion of the world. This “Talmud” sounds like inmates in a lunatic asylum that banded together.
    Now I understand Doreen Dotan. She is an Israeli who says the Babylonian Talmud was developed by heretic Jews and is a great evil in the world. I think she does believe in the Torah.

    • Replies:@RoatanBill
    @MollyA

    Stop deluding yourself. There is no supreme being.

    The idea of a sky god was cooked up by the scum known as priests to take advantage of their more stupid followers. The priestly class led to the political class. Combined, religion and gov't are the worst things man has ever invented.

    Religion and gov't have been the sponsors of wars for millennia. That POS Pope in the Vatican sits in a palace while his pedophile priests fleece the ignorant and poor all over the world.

    Peddle your religion is good somewhere else. I'm immune to that message.

  • You would be remiss to believe that these people are actually Jews or that the vast majority of people calling themselves Jews have any connection to the Jews of the Old Testament. These are the “evil people from the North” spoken of in the Bible. Their fate has been written, it will not end well for them.

  • @Oppression 4 U
    @Kapyong

    What is being argued it the following: like it or not the inhabitants of this earth with either be governed by the State, or Culture (Religion, Language, Division of Labor, all our interpersonal interactions). For the vast majority of human beings time on this earth, for at least the 50,000 years we know of coming out of Africa, Religion has been intertwined with our day-to-day lives. It comes a natural consequence of our actions.

    I will choose Culture every single time. The State takes and kills and with no discrimination. It’s “religion” is atheism. The reason being as it is run by people who think they are god. Just take a look at the numbers of what Communism has done in thE 20th century. I will be more that happy to provide if needed as well.

    Christianity, or Catholicism more specifically, has done more in the last 2000 years for human kind than the previous 50,000 years of fallen empires and religions. It is truly God given. You’re exactly right it’s is based on FAITH. Evil does not come from God. Evil comes from the actions of man without God.

    Jews hate Catholics. They use Protestants as their stooges. Whites should be with Whites. Blacks should be with Blacks. Jews should be with Jews. Muslims should be with Muslims. Christianity is the only religion that teaches to “love thy neighbor.” Eastern “religions” aren’t religions per se either. Those people don’t claim to be divine. That’s why most Chinese are happy with the “Communist” state over there. Most of Chinese existence has always been supreme to the state, and always will be. Just another reason Chinese should stay over there and us Americans should take our high-pointed noses out of everyone’s business.

    Replies: @Kapyong

    Christianity, or Catholicism more specifically, has done more in the last 2000 years for human kind than the previous 50,000 years of fallen empires and religions. It is truly God given.

    No rational adult should believe that ridiculous fantasy.

  • @Fool
    @RoatanBill


    Reality is what my senses perceive.
     
    Do your senses perceive themselves? If so: describe them. If not: are your senses not part of reality?

    Very frustrating to have an exchange with one who is ignorant of the foundations which he takes for granted, and further, in folly, declares that those who see must be blind.

    You're lacking. You're so close! But lacking.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    You’re a broken record.

    You bore me.

    • Replies:@Fool
    @RoatanBill

    I infer that I'm in good company.

  • @Kapyong
    @anon

    Oh please...

    Of course there are and were good Christians, like there are and were good atheists too.

    But the belief that Christians are good and atheists are bad is silly nonsense - as silly as believing that either left or right is good and t'other bad. Or capitalists and communists.

    A return to Christianity will not save us, as some here hope - because there is no one religion of Christianity - rather a huge number of different, competing Christian religions who disagree and argue and fight, and sometimes even kill each other.

    "Return to Christianity" is really a call to join the caller's one particular religion, group, or cult. I'd ask them - are you prepared to join and follow someother Christian group ? Or do you expect everyone to joinyours?

    Kapyong

    Replies: @Oppression 4 U

    What is being argued it the following: like it or not the inhabitants of this earth with either be governed by the State, or Culture (Religion, Language, Division of Labor, all our interpersonal interactions). For the vast majority of human beings time on this earth, for at least the 50,000 years we know of coming out of Africa, Religion has been intertwined with our day-to-day lives. It comes a natural consequence of our actions.

    I will choose Culture every single time. The State takes and kills and with no discrimination. It’s “religion” is atheism. The reason being as it is run by people who think they are god. Just take a look at the numbers of what Communism has done in thE 20th century. I will be more that happy to provide if needed as well.

    Christianity, or Catholicism more specifically, has done more in the last 2000 years for human kind than the previous 50,000 years of fallen empires and religions. It is truly God given. You’re exactly right it’s is based on FAITH. Evil does not come from God. Evil comes from the actions of man without God.

    Jews hate Catholics. They use Protestants as their stooges. Whites should be with Whites. Blacks should be with Blacks. Jews should be with Jews. Muslims should be with Muslims. Christianity is the only religion that teaches to “love thy neighbor.” Eastern “religions” aren’t religions per se either. Those people don’t claim to be divine. That’s why most Chinese are happy with the “Communist” state over there. Most of Chinese existence has always been supreme to the state, and always will be. Just another reason Chinese should stay over there and us Americans should take our high-pointed noses out of everyone’s business.

    • Replies:@Kapyong
    @Oppression 4 U


    Christianity, or Catholicism more specifically, has done more in the last 2000 years for human kind than the previous 50,000 years of fallen empires and religions. It is truly God given.
     
    No rational adult should believe that ridiculous fantasy.
  • @The_seventh_shape
    @RoatanBill

    Philosophy is inextricably linked to the hard sciences like physics and biology and historically people who have been a practitioner of one have often been a practitioner of the other (e.g. Aristotle, Descartes, Leibniz). Philosophy is about reasoning, explaining and trying to think clearly, exposing inconsistencies and empty verbiage, which is crucial to science.

    You say that modern physics is full of nonsense with it's string theories and multiverse theories; though I don't work in these fields either I have the same impression, even regarding accepted theories like relativity. But that just shows that scientists in their theorizing are always liable to indulge in metaphysical speculations that go beyond the bounds of what their empirical methods can verify, that is, they are constantly liable to indulge in 'philosophy' and often don't see it as different from the scientific endeavor. It is very doubtful that you could have a civilization that is accomplished at science but that shunned philosophy completely, and certainly there are no living examples of this to refer to.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc, @RoatanBill

    What you may call philosophy, I’ll refer to as a hunch.

    Anyone that has worked in an area of science, flying, fishing, skiing, etc develops a sense of what’s going on and from that can extrapolate what might happen if inputs are changed. I’m all for experimentation and testing. I’m just not a fan of naval gazing.

    The Humanities and Social Sciences teach naval gazing as an end unto itself. I can’t stomach it. I believe that the non STEM fields should be limited to a Bachelor degree only because giving away a PhD for an opinion that has no empirical evidence is just plain wrong. If that were the case, there wouldn’t be a Federal Reserve to screw over an economy, there wouldn’t be Psychiatrists to prescribe mind altering drugs that lead to the bulk of the mass shootings recently experienced and there wouldn’t be a gov’t that turns its bogus opinions into laws. Those things wouldn’t exist because their practitioners wouldn’t have the undeserved clout they now have.

    If people had to prove what they say is true, there would be fewer totally fraudulent professions and as a result, less fraud and deception in the world.

  • @The_seventh_shape
    @RoatanBill

    Philosophy is inextricably linked to the hard sciences like physics and biology and historically people who have been a practitioner of one have often been a practitioner of the other (e.g. Aristotle, Descartes, Leibniz). Philosophy is about reasoning, explaining and trying to think clearly, exposing inconsistencies and empty verbiage, which is crucial to science.

    You say that modern physics is full of nonsense with it's string theories and multiverse theories; though I don't work in these fields either I have the same impression, even regarding accepted theories like relativity. But that just shows that scientists in their theorizing are always liable to indulge in metaphysical speculations that go beyond the bounds of what their empirical methods can verify, that is, they are constantly liable to indulge in 'philosophy' and often don't see it as different from the scientific endeavor. It is very doubtful that you could have a civilization that is accomplished at science but that shunned philosophy completely, and certainly there are no living examples of this to refer to.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc, @RoatanBill

    But that just shows that scientists in their theorizing are always liable to indulge in metaphysical speculations that go beyond the bounds of what their empirical methods can verify….

    So what?

    How is your assertion pertinent to Mr. Hoffman’s article?

    How is your assertion pertinent to questions of

    (a) the qualities of Orthodox Judaism

    (b) the relation of (i) Orthodox Judaism, (ii) other forms of Jewish religion, and (iii) the behaviors of Jews

    (c) (i) the qualitative differences or similarities of sundry forms of Judaism versus various forms of Christianity (or Islam), (ii) how those religions’ qualitative differences or similarities translate into differences or similarities of human conduct, and (iii) the relative good or evil of the human-conduct effects of the distinctive qualities of each such religion

  • @Fool
    @Loup-Bouc

    You've used many words to express the fact that you've missed the point.

    I don't think you have dodged the point, though. You're throwing up a smoke screen.

    Address consciousness. Fully! Don't quibble over whether animals have it or not. That is a low debate. You've granted its existence, now discuss!

    (insert ad hominems here)

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

    Don’t quibble over whether animals have it or not. That is a low debate.

    Why is the point “low”? What would be the pertinent significance of the point’s being “low”?

    You’ve used many words to express the fact that you’ve missed the point.

    I don’t think you have dodged the point, though. You’re throwing up a smoke screen.

    So, I missed your point, but I have not dodged your point, but I am “throwing up a smoke screen” against your point?

    I seem to be a magician without trying to be or even knowing that I am. I suppose I am simultaneously both anti-matter and two inconsistent forms of matter — or my comment was.

    Also,you have not responded tomy comment — my comment’s deconstruction of yours, your comment’s thesis and the premises and inferences from which your thesis perceives it derives and on which it would depend.

    My comment’s point was that your comment did not — could not — proveeither (a) the legitimacy of a belief that the universe or anything else exists because of a god or universal creating/organizing spirit or intelligent design or forceor (b) the good, bad, sense, or sanity of any religion, whether organized or formal or a social norm or a personal moral code that does, or does not, include something like spiritualism.

    My (deconstructive) point does not depend on any view of consciousness or its ingredients, source, operation, or function. My point was that you did not — could not — prove the existence of anynon-physical thing or phenomenon on a premise ofeither (a) science’s or math’s “inability toeven begin to explain/justify/describe consciousness” [quote of your language and emphasis]or (b) some ancient sage’s (e.g., Aristotle’s) putting ideas that modern science has not apprehended, imagined, or considered.

    My comment did not concede that consciousness — its content, source, operation, or function — has been, or is, beyond the apprehension of any science or analytic discipline. I cited a source that presents a tenable apprehension of the nature of consciousness and identifiers of its presence and operation.https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2643&context=utk_graddiss&httpsredir=1&referer=

    But my purpose was NOT to solve your “consciousness” riddle. It was only to deconstruct your thesis and the premises and inferences from which your thesis perceives it derives and on which it would depend. That deconstruction did not (does not) requireeither (a) a demonstration of any analytic discipline’s having determined, or being able to determine, the content, source, operation, or function of consciousnessor (b)my rendering a determination of the source or qualities of consciousness.

    YOUR task is showing that no analytic discipline has determined, or can be able to determine, the content, source, operation, or function of consciousness. For, such is a necessary foundation of YOUR thesis.

    insert ad hominems here

    Nowhere did my comment put anad hominem attack against YOU. My comment attacked the contents of your comment. Perhaps you do not understand “ad hominem attack.”

    • Replies:@Fool
    @Loup-Bouc


    YOUR task is showing that no analytic discipline has determined, or can be able to determine, the content, source, operation, or function of consciousness. For, such is a necessary foundation of YOUR thesis.
     
    Yes. I agree. I have already shown this.

    In describing nature we use symbols. These symbols are designed by and for conscious agents. Consciousness itself, categorically, is not amenable to symbolic description/explanation.

    In physics: a state of affairs is transformed into another state of affairs via mathematics. One can infer the past or predict the future with appropriate equations. All states may be modeled and measured quantitatively. Configurations of positions, momenta, &c. All may be measured and quantified.

    No such mechanism exists for the world of the mind. Which set of symbols may be "equated" to consciousness? The obvious answer: none! Can you, even in theory, scribble out a string of symbols that will somehow link a physical configuration with a conscious experience? If not, symbolic reasoning isn't up to the task of describing the mind.

    Art is much closer to understanding consciousness than science. Art also lacks rigor. This isn't a coincidence.

    Replies: @Loup-Bouc

  • @Tommy Thompson
    @TTSSYF

    Yes, my point exactly, your friends were the types living in caves.

    Have you been to small towns in Central Texas with their recently manufactured Zio-Christianity based around Charismistic Preachers with made up gospels that until recently regularly dissed Catholics, Blacks, Hispanics, Muslim and others but more rarely Jews? I cannot condemn Christianity because of them, nor can I condemn Judaism over the actions of some, say Zionist-Settlers, as neither are necessarily a significant representation of the their calling.

    By the way your friend asking you how you got a copy of the Koran, has nothing to do with being female, as it is surely mostly females that read the Koran and females that mostly read the Bible in this day and age. How can you judge a whole religion of 1 billion Muslims or 1.5 billion Christians or even 25 million professed Jews, based on a few encounters and statements of a handful that are not even from the religiously qualified? As for the veil or hijab, this has been historically a Christian requirement to demonstrate modesty even more than Islamic up until the recent past.

    I certainly have had many encounters with many and many Muslims and in various Muslim lands and find them overall to be very dignified, proper in etiquette, generous and welcoming to foreigners and strangers, whatever ones background might be, even if Jewish. This is why I find perplexing on your proclamations.

    Do you let a few encounters in daily life lead you to overall general assumptions condemning many millions?? That is the foundation of racism, bigotry and unbridled hatred, which emanates from ignorance and inferiority-superiority complexes and is neither stems from Christian or Islamic theology.

    Replies: @TTSSYF, @MrVoid

    I’m glad you like and admire Muslims. I also have met many Muslims who are charming and nice. But I have found that, underneath that charming exterior, lies a burning hatred and resentment of the West that can’t be entirely suppressed. And no, I don’t think the Muslim man resented my handling the Koran because I am female. I think he resented it because, consistent with 7th-century thinking, he believes that a physical Koran is holy and should not be in the possession of or handled by infidels. We are talking about people who believe that, as “good” Muslims, they must pray five times a day, facing toward Mecca, must sleep with their beds facing Mecca, who pepper their daily speech with references to Allah and Mohammed, and who must consult a Imam on the Islamic way to even the most mundane things. It is robotic. Islam also has no problem with cousin marriage…although, in my opinion, one of the main problems with Islam IS cousin marriage. It has has gone on for too many centuries and, in my opinion, has bred fanaticism and over-emotionalism as well as a disproportionate number of genetic disorders.

    I don’t like religious fanatics of any type. If it were up to me, there would be no tax-exempt status for churches, synagogues, or mosques. I have no problem with people having private religious beliefs or coming together as groups with shared beliefs, but other than that, I think it should be a private matter since it can’t be proven nor disproven. I have special animus toward Islam because it is mired in 7th-century thinking and customs, and they are bringing it to our shores. You gloss over the cold, hard facts I point out about the Muslim world, saying there are “a few things that need to be addressed” or some such dismissive terms, or use a diversion by claiming acts of violence committed by Muslims, in the name of Islam, are actually committed under false flags. Sorry, but I don’t buy that.

    Just as the Dems are using the “peaceful protesters” who are rioting, destroying property, looting, and getting in the faces of law-abiding citizens attempting to have dinner in an open-air restaurant, as their shock troops, so do too many Muslims silently cheer when Islamic jihadis commit acts of violence in the name of Islam. I agree with what the late great Lawrence Auster said: That we should confine Muslims to their historical lands and leave them alone until they figure it out.

    • Replies:@Bardon Kaldian
    @TTSSYF

    Let's not mince words. All religions are suspect, but Islam is a pest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKvCHoN1Rbw

  • @RoatanBill
    @Fool

    Reality is what my senses perceive. I don't need some long dead philosopher to define it for me.

    I don't care where old science came from except as a curiosity because it has little bearing on what is known today. Lots of the old science was flat wrong as is much of today's.

    Thank you Newton and Galileo for adding to man's knowledge base, but what they produced is taken for granted because we've moved on.

    My education is definitely one sided because I refused to attend what I considered nonsense classes in college.

    I went to one of 3 public high schools in New York that required an entrance exam to attend, Brooklyn Tech. Electricity lab, electronics lab, foundry, machine shop, etc, and where I discovered the first computer I ever saw (IBM 1130) and spent a summer with my instructor programming the thing in Fortran.

    Thereafter I went to The Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn where I could concentrate on my interests and ignore the noise like economics, philosophy and the other basket weaving courses that were there for those that flunked out of the engineering curriculum.

    I was never indoctrinated in the nonsense courses, as you apparently were.

    Replies: @The_seventh_shape, @Fool

    Reality is what my senses perceive.

    Do your senses perceive themselves? If so: describe them. If not: are your senses not part of reality?

    Very frustrating to have an exchange with one who is ignorant of the foundations which he takes for granted, and further, in folly, declares that those who see must be blind.

    You’re lacking. You’re so close! But lacking.

    • Replies:@RoatanBill
    @Fool

    You're a broken record.

    You bore me.

    Replies: @Fool

  • @Loup-Bouc
    @Fool

    You wrote:


    A legitimate study of STEM leads one towards theology, not away from it. The most striking deficiency of our symbolic analysis of reality is the complete (COMPLETE) inability to even begin to explain/justify/describe consciousness.
     
    (1) Neither science's limitations nor physicists’ limitations can prove the existence of anything not physical — a God or any religious "explanation" of either the inanimate physical world or the origin or nature of consciousness.

    (2) Very many non-human animals are conscious — sentientAND aware of (a) environment and its sensorially perceivable influences and (b) their internal experience. See, e.g., https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2643&context=utk_graddiss&httpsredir=1&referer=AND the references it cites.

    Non-human animals do very well without inventing or hallucinating "higher powers," deities, "intelligent design" of the universe.......(except to the extent that humans intrude, much on the premise that some human-invented God authorizes, or commands, the intrusion.)

    No "higher power," deity, "intelligent design," or other religious dreck supplies or maintains the existence or consciousness of non-human animals whose existence predated Homo sapiens by about 550 million years — on a planet [Earth]not "created" in 6 days (or duringany duration) by any hallucinated God, or per eventual consequence of a junk-science-hallucinated "Big Bang."

    RE: the Big Bang crap, see, e.g., https://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/398-science/23003-mad-e-maticsAND sources it cites

    Nature is because it is — happens because it happens — because of its own forces, operations, functions, and directions. Science cannot explain, even actually grasp, nature, much because science is a largely egotistical enterprise of a puny species enamored by itself so much that it cannot perceive the error-engendering effects of its arrogance.

    Cf.,e.g., https://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/398-science/23003-mad-e-maticsAND sources it citesAND consider also,e.g., how risibly fumbling has been science's encounter with the alleged "Covi-19 "pandemic."

    (3) Aristotle was not a physicist, but a failure of the fields of logic and philosophy. Aristotle's "excluded middle" suffices to expose the joke of Aristotle's logic, math, and philosophy "contributions." Aristotle's "physics" was absurd.

    Aristotle’s contributions to the physical sciences are less impressive than his researches in the life sciences. In works such as On Generation and Corruption and On the Heavens, he presented a world-picture that included many features inherited from his pre-Socratic predecessors. From Empedocles (c. 490–430 BCE) he adopted the view that the universe is ultimately composed of different combinations of the four fundamental elements of earth, water, air, and fire. Each element is characterized by the possession of a unique pair of the four elementary qualities of heat, cold, wetness, and dryness: earth is cold and dry, water is cold and wet, air is hot and wet, and fire is hot and dry. Each element has a natural place in an ordered cosmos, and each has an innate tendency to move toward this natural place. Thus, earthy solids naturally fall, while fire, unless prevented, rises ever higher. Other motions of the elements are possible but are “violent.” (A relic of Aristotle’s distinction is preserved in the modern-day contrast between natural and violent death.)

    Aristotle’s vision of the cosmos also owes much to Plato’s dialogue Timaeus. As in that work, the Earth is at the centre of the universe, and around it the Moon, the Sun, and the other planets revolve in a succession of concentric crystalline spheres. The heavenly bodies are not compounds of the four terrestrial elements but are made up of a superior fifth element, or “quintessence.” In addition, the heavenly bodies have souls, or supernatural intellects, which guide them in their travels through the cosmos

     

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Aristotle/Physics-and-metaphysics

    For his physics and astronomy, Aristotle has become identified as the barrier to scientific progress in the renaissance.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2002/jan/15/peopleinscience

    See also,e.g., https://www.wired.com/story/aristotle-was-wrong-very-wrong-but-people-still-love-him/

    But even if Aristotle had been a physicist who had solved, reliably, at least one question of the physical world, stillnothing logical (and certainlynothing empirical) follows from Aristotle's having "postulated quite a few things which are not addressed, even tangentially, by modern physics" [your assertion].

    Aristotle postulated that slavery wasnatural andnecessary, even for the good of the slaves. And Aristotle's "four fundamental elements of earth, water, air, and fire" (etc.) "physics" [see above] was quite ludicrous. The Ancients — even the much "enlightenment"-worshiped Greeks — erred much more than not, even oft-ridiculously.

    Pythagoras WAS a physicist (and mathematician). Pythagorus insisted that humans must not eat beans. Humans must strive for tranquility and peace, enjoy a harmony like the harmony of the heavens. Humans must purify their bodies and psyches so they (humans) can return to the sun and rise to the stars. Bean-eating would defeat that glorious goal. Eating a bean was like eating human flesh.

    Pythagoras believed humans and beans were spawned from the same source. He conducted a “scientific” experiment to prove his belief.

    He buried some beans in mud for a few weeks, then exhumed them. He thought they resembled human fetuses and “deduced” an intimate relationship of humans and beans. Bean-eating was, therefore, akin to eating human flesh. And if one crushed or dirtied a bean, one would do a heinous act like killing a human.

    Ignorance, arrogance, ego-worship, or virtual insanity cannot transmute a scientist's or non-scientist's bullshit into truth.

    (4) Your post — including its stupid first sentence — does not read like the writing of a physicist. It reads like the writing of an advocate of "intelligent design."

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    You’ve used many words to express the fact that you’ve missed the point.

    I don’t think you have dodged the point, though. You’re throwing up a smoke screen.

    Address consciousness. Fully! Don’t quibble over whether animals have it or not. That is a low debate. You’ve granted its existence, now discuss!

    (insert ad hominems here)

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    @Fool


    Don’t quibble over whether animals have it or not. That is a low debate.
     
    Why is the point "low"? What would be the pertinent significance of the point's being "low"?

    You’ve used many words to express the fact that you’ve missed the point.

    I don’t think you have dodged the point, though. You’re throwing up a smoke screen.
     
    So, I missed your point, but I have not dodged your point, but I am "throwing up a smoke screen" against your point?

    I seem to be a magician without trying to be or even knowing that I am. I suppose I am simultaneously both anti-matter and two inconsistent forms of matter — or my comment was.

    Also,you have not responded tomy comment — my comment's deconstruction of yours, your comment's thesis and the premises and inferences from which your thesis perceives it derives and on which it would depend.

    My comment's point was that your comment did not — could not — proveeither (a) the legitimacy of a belief that the universe or anything else exists because of a god or universal creating/organizing spirit or intelligent design or forceor (b) the good, bad, sense, or sanity of any religion, whether organized or formal or a social norm or a personal moral code that does, or does not, include something like spiritualism.

    My (deconstructive) point does not depend on any view of consciousness or its ingredients, source, operation, or function. My point was that you did not — could not — prove the existence of anynon-physical thing or phenomenon on a premise ofeither (a) science's or math's "inability toeven begin to explain/justify/describe consciousness" [quote of your language and emphasis]or (b) some ancient sage's (e.g., Aristotle's) putting ideas that modern science has not apprehended, imagined, or considered.

    My comment did not concede that consciousness — its content, source, operation, or function — has been, or is, beyond the apprehension of any science or analytic discipline. I cited a source that presents a tenable apprehension of the nature of consciousness and identifiers of its presence and operation. https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2643&context=utk_graddiss&httpsredir=1&referer=

    But my purpose was NOT to solve your "consciousness" riddle. It was only to deconstruct your thesis and the premises and inferences from which your thesis perceives it derives and on which it would depend. That deconstruction did not (does not) requireeither (a) a demonstration of any analytic discipline's having determined, or being able to determine, the content, source, operation, or function of consciousnessor (b)my rendering a determination of the source or qualities of consciousness.

    YOUR task is showing that no analytic discipline has determined, or can be able to determine, the content, source, operation, or function of consciousness. For, such is a necessary foundation of YOUR thesis.

    insert ad hominems here
     
    Nowhere did my comment put anad hominem attack against YOU. My comment attacked the contents of your comment. Perhaps you do not understand "ad hominem attack."

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    @Tommy Thompson

    In the case of one family, one son was a medical doctor and the other was an engineer. Hardly living in caves. The doctor, who was quite charming, told me about how, when in Syria, the people cheered and handed out candy when the Challenger blew up. When a dark mood settled over him, he would talk about how he fantasized about killing ... well, I won’t spell it out, lest my comment be banned. On one occasion, the engineer glared at me hatefully when I showed him a copy of the Koran someone had given to me years ago and coldly asked how I had a copy. I’m sure he did not like my (female) infidel hands touching the holy book. Anecdotal, yes, but very real to me.

    I despise the hajib and the belief of Muslim men that they are lured into temptation by women, who must, to prevent this, cover themselves. And if that weren’t enough, there was that little matter of 9/11, when, to quote that Somalian ingrate, “Some people did some things.” That, plus scores of other horrific incidents such as in Paris, San Bernardino, and Orlando, just to name three, and the deafening silence of those without the stomach for wet work, are enough for me to write off Islam.

    It is my personal opinion that Muslims should not be allowed to immigrate to Europe or the US but should be confined to their countries where they can practice their 7th century to their hearts’ content. Of course, that will not happen, so, in the meantime, I keep my distance from them and religious fanatics in general. It’s the main reason I became a scientist.

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    I should have read your post #215 more carefully, before sending a reply. I therefore find I was wasting my time writing to a Zio Bot.

    “Some people did some things.” That, plus scores of other horrific incidents such as in Paris, San Bernardino, and Orlando, just to name three, and the deafening silence of those without the stomach for wet work, are enough for me to write off Islam.

    The above statement is a dead give away that you are a Zio Troll just posting to make hyper anti Muslim propaganda for the uninformed. Everyone is aware that these incidents are largely false flags, as carefully analyzed and outed on the Alternative Media.

    Sorry but can I ask you to find take your wares of hate propaganda to a site of the less educated and uninitiated.

    Again, my mistake for not carefully vetting your posts before hastily deciding to comment.


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