It seems to me that the European conquest of the American Indian was quite benign compared to what may have been their fate if the Japanese had landed on the west coast and desired the continent.
The Europeans certainly didn’t genocide the race nor was it ever attempted. It was probably one of the most subtle conquests in all history.
The only cause for the extinction of the pure-bloodlines of American Indians is their lack of concern for preserving them. Inbreeding with other races, perhaps predominantly with their European conquerors, has all but exterminated their bloodlines – a practice that no other people compelled them to do. Indeed, the primary guilt for their extinction is on them.
@ elric
I have commented already commented about this infographic
Since it is the same infographic, here is my comment:
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/white-supremacy-is-deeply-embedded-into-zionism/#comment-6864911
The employment of a vast slavocracy in various colonies -- not just the American South -- for no reason but to supply Europeans with their morning coffee and other treats, was Schopenhauer's go-to example for the intrinsic evil and selfishness of humans.Replies: @Pierre de Craon, @Anymike
In contrast, blacks were not necessary for the founding and development of America. True, black labor was, for a time, hugely profitable for the white slave-owners whose economy was intricately linked with the North and with Europe. But even without black slave labor, an expanding and developing America would have been possible with white immigration and reproduction.
You have a point, but the essential raw material of cotton also was produced in abundance. One of the characteristics of the political left is that it rejects all thought that takes a jaundiced view of human nature an opposed to seeing evil as confined to certain defined classes of people. The Bible with its emphasis on the sinful nature of man is one case of a work which they reject. Or, since you brought him up, Schopenauer.
I was thinking just the other day that must be some coterie of mature women who hold much the same view of young women that Schopenauer did, and who see them as a group and a force that needs to be molded and kept under control, not as the greatest of all beings.
Modern metropolitanist society gives great power to young women who willing to become an adventuress. The reason why is pretty obvious. Sharp young women are the principal source of good sex in this world. One with a little caliber adds social prestige to the mix.
A society which harbored more doubts about the inherent character of human nature would not elevate vices into virtues.
Two things:
1: Don’t bitch that E. Michael Jones misspelled your name. You misspelled the Fynn-Paul’s name more than a score times.
2: Sherman was a banker before the “Civil War”. So it is not a surprise that he would hate everyone and destroy all that was in his path.
What year is it where you live? Where I live it’s 2023 and we don’t call people Yankees unless they are in pinstripes playing on a baseball diamond – We grew up
I’m none too fond of the Yankees, but prior to the Civil War all Americans fought against these savages,
And not a word about Kennewick Man , Solutrian culture and ancient megalithic structures built by non-indians?
I saw a report concerning an Indian tribe who had their land taken away by the MassiveTwoTits State or Colony ILLEGALLY. And recognized as such by legal experts. But it took decades to get it back.
So you see, folks, that is how vigilantism gets started and expands. Justice denied.
Xanthos isn’t quite in Serbia, and between Vincha and the first known manuscripts is a long time.
It would be good if you could be more generous with links and references, e.g. Patriarch Photios’ book burning, to save us doing the searches.
I got the information from an Albanian, so it must be true.
Thanks for the information. Obviously, there has been a cover-up as I was not aware of this.
https://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2018/04/the-oldest-english-writing-in-the-british-library.html
The earliest substantial example of English is the lawcode of King Æthelberht of Kent (reigned c. 589–616)
What is the first known text in the Serbian language? Can you find a contemporary reference to what languages were spoken in Serbia at that time (700 to 1100 AD)?
As Bede wrote in his Ecclesiastical History, completed in 731, 'At the present time, languages of five peoples are spoken in the island of the Britain ... English, British, Irish, Pictish and the Latin languages
I already mentioned some references earlier and by the way. For example, the Xanthos obelisk from the 8th century BC, which I have already written about. That script is identical to the Etruscan one, which I also wrote about and referenced a book about its decoding that no one in the West wish to hear about. References are also Sanskrit as well as the Vinča script. It is little known that Serbian manuscripts were systematically destroyed by the Greeks (for example, Patriarch Photios of Constantinople destroyed all Serbian books from the library). When the topic is about it, we can recall these and some other references.
Very disappointing, I know you can do much better. With the absence of wit, you can’t brag that you can’t find a single ‘doubiosis’.
I await a longish comment from “Odyssey” complaining that you are covering up the fact that the “Indians” you speak of were actually Canada’s true aboriginals: Serb explorers who had arrived in Canada around 35o BC.
Most of those technologically advanced, peace-loving people were wiped out by vicious Dutch, English, and French traders, who then replaced the “Indians” with Lapps and Andaman Islanders, who were promised perpetual First Nations status, complete with casino licenses, in return for keeping mum about their own cooperation with the Serb genocide in Canada.*
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*WHIMSICALITY ALERT!
The earliest substantial example of English is the lawcode of King Æthelberht of Kent (reigned c. 589–616)
This interesting reference also mentions other texts older than the date of the creation of the English language according to you. Also it states:
As Bede wrote in his Ecclesiastical History, completed in 731, ‘At the present time, languages of five peoples are spoken in the island of the Britain … English, British, Irish, Pictish and the Latin languages
What is the first known text in the Serbian language? Can you find a contemporary reference to what languages were spoken in Serbia at that time (700 to 1100 AD)?
I am not saying that what you claim isn’t true but you need to furnish some references.
There is a certain irony here. The Hudson Bay Company was granted a Charter in 1670 giving the Company ownership of the watershed, about 1/3 of what is now Canada. While they had employees travel with the Indians to the interior as early as 1690, they remained at the shores of the Hudson and James Bays to conduct their commerce with the “Indians”. The first inland trading post was 1774, after the end of the war with France. While further trading posts were built, even into what is now the US, they continued with their “not leaving a footprint” manner of conducting trade. Yes, some of the traders took “country wives” gifted by the Chiefs to strengthen ties, but they chose to remain low key. The real problems started with the rival North West Company illegally entering the territory and encouraging the “Indians” to violence against the HBC. It was all downhill after that, including large scale (illegal) immigration from Quebec, sponsored by the RC Church. It ended with the British Government first forcing a merger of the companies, then revoking the Charter and selling the land to the Canadian government. The resulting treaties are now being claimed to be something they aren’t.
So what language did the Anglos use before then? Just like there used to be Old Serbian, different from modern Serbian, there was also the Old English language. And whatever Serbian was spoken in Vincha would have hardly been the same as modern Serbian.So you give us your etymology of the English word "slave", seeing you disagree with Pierre de Craon.Replies: @Odyssey
The language was formed in the 12th century AC. What happened in England then?
There are differences between the development of the Serbian and English languages. It can be proven that the Serbian language is very old (Alinei says from the Paleolithic). Linguistics is a much more exact science than some people think. It is known how many thousands of years it takes for a language to develop organically (other languages are derived from organic languages, such as all Slavic languages from Serbian), the periods when certain consonants appeared are known. I usually illustrate that it takes 4-5000 years of development from the consonant ‘Rrrrrr…’, to the sentence ‘Serbs are a very wonderful people!’.
Many modern Serbian words are the same as at the time of the first industrial revolution (5000 BC in Vinca) or earlier. Tagore’s great-granddaughter found 22% identity (11% high similarity) of Sanskrit and modern Serbian words (something can be seen from #125). Younger languages arose in the environment of the Serbian language. Latin was a provincial Apennines that was taken over by the church but was not a spoken language. There is a 200-year-old dictionary of Latin words adopted from Serbian.
English was practically formed in the 12th century (there’s an excellent BBC 8-part documentary on its history) as it was almost eradicated and preserved in monasteries. It took a lot from the French language – military, culinary and, I think, legal terminology. It also took earlier a lot from Serbian, so that many archaic Serbian words have been preserved in English (the terms Saxons in Germany, Wends or Lusatian Serbs are considered to overlap).
If the English language only took the word for ‘slave’ from Latin in the Middle Ages, then the question is how did they not have that word earlier and if so, what was it. Did the Catholic Church come up with that word for ‘slave’ and how come the Latin language didn’t have that word at the time of the gladiators 1000 years earlier?
If we are talking about prisoners in medieval conflicts in central Europe (modern Germany?), who captured whom. The captives were not slaves because slavery did not officially exist but serfs may have existed.
Why is the English word for ‘slave’ not for e.g. ‘Irish’ (and who could be considered their slaves at that time), who were much closer to them instead of ‘Slavs’, with whom they had no direct contact? Pierre’s quote is illogical (I also expect from him to come with the aforementioned dubiousness), I may really study the origin of the English word ‘slave’ myself.
https://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2018/04/the-oldest-english-writing-in-the-british-library.html
The earliest substantial example of English is the lawcode of King Æthelberht of Kent (reigned c. 589–616)
What is the first known text in the Serbian language? Can you find a contemporary reference to what languages were spoken in Serbia at that time (700 to 1100 AD)?
As Bede wrote in his Ecclesiastical History, completed in 731, 'At the present time, languages of five peoples are spoken in the island of the Britain ... English, British, Irish, Pictish and the Latin languages
Thanks. A simple logic is sufficient for the basic picture. Is it more likely that these people lived for a couple of tens of thousands of years in some Russian ice without food or did they live in some microclimate without ice on the banks of a large river rich in fish where they created a high civilization over thousands of years and where they were very numerous. The creation of a language requires a critical mass of people, not lonely nomadic families wandering the Russian steppe, with or without ice.
I am no expert on the Proto-Indo-European language but my guess is somewhere in the cold part of Russia there lived a people who spoke the mother of Indo-Persian-European languages. And cold and famine may have driven them out to western Europe and to the East towards Iran and India.
The language was formed in the 12th century AC. What happened in England then?
So what language did the Anglos use before then? Just like there used to be Old Serbian, different from modern Serbian, there was also the Old English language. And whatever Serbian was spoken in Vincha would have hardly been the same as modern Serbian.
So you give us your etymology of the English word “slave”, seeing you disagree with Pierre de Craon.
Even were this true, so what? No matter how glorious and grandiose the Serbs' past might have been—I am not alone hereabouts, however, in considering this claim dubious—the fact remains that the English wordslave derives fromSlav. To restate that fact, first stated by Franz, with supporting documentation was the sole reason for my earlier comment.Replies: @Odyssey
The term ‘Slavs’ was artificially created in the 6th-7th century to suppress Serbian name.
So, what? So, nothing! A trifle. This trifle is perhaps the biggest forgery in world history. Is there anything dubious? You might be able to say something if you had some knowledge that you don’t have. That imbecilic quote testifies to that.
When was the English language able to form that word based on the name ‘Slavs’? The language was formed in the 12th century AC. What happened in England then? Catholic William the Conqueror won the Battle of Hastings, destroyed Orthodoxy in England and imposed Catholicism. The whole country was devastated.
At that time, and for the next few hundred years, Serbia was the strongest country in Europe and in terms of population, it was similar to the English and Germans. The founder of the medieval dynasty was a descendant of Constantine’s sister and Emperor Licinius, with whom he issued the Edict of Milan at their wedding function. Her mother was the daughter of Emperor Maximian, Diocletian’s co-emperor, and the sister of Maxentius, governor of the city of Rome. Constantine himself married her mother’s sister. Where were the English then and their English language? Before Constantine and after him, there were dozens of other Serbian emperors (e.g. Justinian).
So where are the slaves? On what basis could the English in a state in disintegration, with a language that was almost extinct and was barely preserved in monasteries, take the word for a slave after the example of some ‘Slavs’? Which so-called ‘Slavs’ did they know and have contact with?
So what language did the Anglos use before then? Just like there used to be Old Serbian, different from modern Serbian, there was also the Old English language. And whatever Serbian was spoken in Vincha would have hardly been the same as modern Serbian.So you give us your etymology of the English word "slave", seeing you disagree with Pierre de Craon.Replies: @Odyssey
The language was formed in the 12th century AC. What happened in England then?
Of all the Indian peoples of the New World, only the Aztecs had developed a pictographic alphabet and system of writing when Europeans appeared on their shores.
This is true in the sense that only the AztecsAND THE MAYANS AND THE MI’KMAW had developed a pictographic alphabet and system of writing when Europeans appeared on their shores. What does a horse’s ass feel like?
Do you even Indian bro?
#3 : Enough about fucking Serbs and Serbia! You’ve got Tesla and that’s enough instead of posting these made-up stories. Alexander the Great was Macedonian, not Serbian. Everything you post about Serbia is a lie. Stop the madness (he said to the mental patient).
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The term ‘Slavs’ was artificially created in the 6th-7th century to suppress Serbian name.
Even were this true, so what? No matter how glorious and grandiose the Serbs’ past might have been—I am not alone hereabouts, however, in considering this claim dubious—the fact remains that the English wordslave derives fromSlav. To restate that fact, first stated by Franz, with supporting documentation was the sole reason for my earlier comment.
Thank you, I agree with your view of the Lithuanian language and the oit theory, but not with the Caucasian theory. Maybe I will later explain it concisely, but it is better for you to explain where that language originated, to describe the previous 5000 years of that language (from the proto-language) and how and when it spread across Europe and a large part of Asia. Also, what is the connection of the Rg Veda with that Caucasian language and which modern language is a direct continuation of that so-called PIE language.
There has been no Aryan invasion in the subcontinent of India / it got inserted by the RotSchild falsificators during the socalled British Raj in India (of which they were the great movers behind the scenes…
They mobilised scholars – just like Scofield in the West with the footnote Bible- to do this work – Max Mueller is one of them… they translatd the Vedic Litterature in English from there other languages followed…
Sanskrit – a friend of mine made from that once Sun Script – he has some book published on how many languages would be deived from Dutch – te language of the Neherlands…
Cigarette – zuig er uit – litt. suck from it… etc. He is a funny guy / rough background but academics in the Netherlands took his ideas seriously some time ago…
The sound value – of each mantra – of Sanskrit in which the Vedas have come to us is of prime importance…not the meaning of the events that took place in history or as some want it as mythology….
About Serbia & India / this association comes up Nikola Tesla who is as most will now from Serbia met in Chicago – Indian – Swami Vivekananda at some World Congress on religion in 1895 via French actress Sarah Bernhard
https://www.teslasociety.com/tesla_and_swami.htm Tesla attended many of Vivekandas lecturs / got to know each other well
Later back in India Vivekananda in a lecture: “I myself have been told by some of the best scientific minds of the day, how wonderfully rational the conclusions of the Vedanta are. I know of one of them personally, who scarcely has time to eat his meal, or go out of his laboratory, but who would stand by the hour to attend my lectures on the Vedanta; for, as he expresses it, they are so scientific, they so exactly harmonize with the aspirations of the age and with the conclusions to which modern science is coming at the present time”.
Tesla was opposin Einstein…..https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/taking-einstein
Einstein – btw a staunch zionist -is known to have worked in a patenT office for some years & must have read the theries of French phycicist Emile Poincare…..
Funny point (point) carre (square) / Albert E. has put the Ein stein on the point / the apex….RotSchild media power is responsible why the world sees everywhere THE tongue out of the mouth of Albert E.
Sanskrit is the most ideal for computers so say experts:https://www.analyticsinsight.net/forget-programming-languages-machines-need-good-old-sanskrit-to-perform-efficiently/
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2 White guys are walking down the road on a Saturday evening trying to find something to do. They’re searching their pockets trying to scrounge up some change for a bottle of vodka when they come upon a carnival tent with a sign out front that says “For only 1 dollar,we can turn you jewish”.
Todd’s got $1.01 and Jeff’s only got 99 cents,so Todd goes “Look,there’s no reason for both of us to get scammed. I’ll go inside,give them a dollar and if it works,I’ll come out and give you the penny and you can go in and do it.” Jeff says that’s alright so Todd mosies in to the tent and there’s this bright flash of light followed by a lot of asthmatic wheezing and soon enough a guy comes out with a caftan,sidelocks,a greasy dirty beard, fucked up rat teeth, he’s jacking off in public and then rubbing his hands together,chucking bombs at babies,he smells like piss,the whole bit. He’s as jewish as Johnathan Greenblatt.
Jeff goes “Holy shit! It worked! Quick give me the penny so I can go in and try it!”
And Todd says “Help! Help! Police! It’s an antisemitic hate crime! I’m being Holocausted!”
“Sanskrit is a local version of the ancient Serbian language that was brought there by the Aryans.”
The Lithuanians make the same claim, whereas, the Sanskrit speakers claim the reverse meaning that all those languages derived from them but I say that both are wrong and the ProtoIndoEuropean came from somewhere in the Caucasuses, e.g. present day Chechnya, Dagestan etc.
Droll. Very droll. But he thereby exposes his cognitive impairments by proving he can’t even come up with an original response but merely plagiarizes the statement that accurately identifies his philosophic stance that he demonstrated he has adopted as exhibited by the conclusions he voiced to which I original responded.
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Speaking of words and parts of speech, the author, Jef Costello, is dead wrong in saying thatfraught isn't an adjective. Indeed, his article, evidently likeNot Stolen, is fraught with errors.Replies: @Odyssey
Etymology
NounMiddle Englishsclave, from Anglo-French or Medieval Latin; Anglo-Frenchesclave, from Medieval Latinsclavus, fromSclavus Slav; from the frequent enslavement of Slavs in central Europe during the early Middle Ages.
What a bunch of falsifications in the quote, which is understandable considering that the entire history of that period is one big falsification. It’s just ridiculous to read cited examples that are out of time and space.
The term ‘Slavs’ was artificially created in the 6th-7th century to suppress Serbian name. As for language, the oldest language in Europe is Vinča/Serbian which has continuity from the Palaeolithic and is older than Latin, Hebrew and Greek by many thousands of years, not to mention English (12th century AD) or German, which is even younger.
Sanskrit is a local version of the ancient Serbian language that was brought there by the Aryans. All those languages, as younger ones, have taken many words from Serbian. We have already said before that the English words: land, ghost, vampire, cat, father, and many others are adopted from Serbian.
From the Serbian word ‘med’ (honey) came the words – medicine, medicament, etc. Therefore, one should first read comment #30 in order to be able to orient oneself in time and space instead of spouting nonsense a la Panzer Franz.
Should we say that dozens of Serbs were Roman emperors such as Constantine, Diocletian, Justinian, Galerius, and many others. Yes, Spartacus was a Roman soldier and later a slave leader and he was also a Serb.
Even were this true, so what? No matter how glorious and grandiose the Serbs' past might have been—I am not alone hereabouts, however, in considering this claim dubious—the fact remains that the English wordslave derives fromSlav. To restate that fact, first stated by Franz, with supporting documentation was the sole reason for my earlier comment.Replies: @Odyssey
The term ‘Slavs’ was artificially created in the 6th-7th century to suppress Serbian name.
In this post-modern age neither truth nor justice matters. No one can criticize the version I presented in #30, but someone in another thread will flatly declare that I am making baseless claims.
At present, none of them have the courage to address any of my claims. But that’s why there will be a bunch of moronic statements like this unfortunate Franz who seems to be another dull panzer commentator, who intends to make a name for himself with imbecile statements.
Ah, an ignorant jackass replies
Our family has mixed race heritage from a variety of ancestors, something true of a pretty good percentage of Americans.
One Thanksgiving I found myself thinking how much my aunt and uncles resembled Chief Dan George. The family farm was in north central Arkansas. My sunt and uncles told me that the whole family was relieved when the local courthouse burned, taking family records with it, so the farm couldn’t be taken away because of our Native American heritage.
Can it truly be that you thought that Franz was saying that the ethnonymSlav was derived from the nounslave rather than the other way around? The etymology ofslave used to be something that everyone learned, at the very latest, in high school.
Of course, the other complainer, the renowned Mr./Ms. Anonymous, doubled down on his/her ignorance about the word’s etymology by adding a healthy dose of sarcasm to his reply.
Even though theMerriam-Webster Online Dictionary insists on Wokely preaching to its users that respectable virtue-signalers say “enslaved persons” rather than “slaves,” it still hasn’t gone whole hog by tracingslave’s etymology to something Derek Chauvin said in a bar before he and his cop buddies carried out their planned martyrdom of Saint George Floyd.
Etymology
NounMiddle Englishsclave, from Anglo-French or Medieval Latin; Anglo-Frenchesclave, from Medieval Latinsclavus, fromSclavus Slav; from the frequent enslavement of Slavs in central Europe during the early Middle Ages.
Speaking of words and parts of speech, the author, Jef Costello, is dead wrong in saying thatfraught isn’t an adjective. Indeed, his article, evidently likeNot Stolen, is fraught with errors.
Not at all, Shlomo. The Jew didn’t, couldn’t, wouldn’t be able to conquer anyone without aid from the West, nor is the Jew capable of building anything worth a shit due to lack of any worthwhile skills and just laziness. The Jew is allergic to physical work of any sort as well as mano el mano combat. Without the West, Israel would have zero chance against their Arab cousins. A duck would stand a better chance against an alligator.
That sounds like how Jews stole Palestine between the late 1800s and 1948.
American indians were the evilest culture in history. They loved torture and tortured to death countless numbers of indians and white settlers. We need to talk about that. Geronimo loved to hang a white man upside down and keep a small fire burning a few inches from his head. Took a week to die.
Any organization, in Canada, that receives government funding, is required to include a similar statement adapted to the region. In my area, it includes Métis (half breeds) and a tribe chased out of a neighbouring province by another tribe, arriving about the same time as Whitey.
In the spirit of respect and reconciliation, we acknowledge that Perimeter Institute is located upon lands that have been inhabited by Indigenous peoples from the beginning. In particular we acknowledge the Haldimand Tract. We thank the Anishinaabe, Haudenosaunee, and Neutral peoples for hosting us on their land.
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No north american tribe had a written language and few south american tribes did. So how did they establish what land they owned? We can’t let them say, “I live here so i own all the land for 50 miles around.”
Did We Steal America From The Indians? NO, we stole land from the Indians, BUT Whites ( European Whites ONLY) BUILT America, not (((kikes,))) not Blacks, not Browns, not Yellows.
My dear goy,
Whistling past the graveyard, Shlomo.
I can smell you from Sarah Palin’s house. hehe. How about trying a disappearing act, boy. teehee. And please wash your ass before you do.
Cue: That Smell by Lynyrd Skynyrd
Wash your azz, kike. Cleanliness is next to Godliness. A little soap & water never hurt anyone. And for goodness sake, jew boy, floss before brushing. Now make that bar of soap disappear, magic boy. Wash, wash, wash, don’t forget behind the ears.
It's absurd because it's a strawman.
Essentially, the Left portrays Indians as peaceful, happy-go-lucky flower children, living in harmony with nature and sharing all things. In every respect, this view is false to the point of absurdity.
While it is true that many of the tribes were involved in what I'd call blood feuds with neighboring tribes, there were also peacemakers among the native tribes who'd adopted the ritual of the peace pipe, or calumet.
Indians were extraordinarily violent and ethnocentric people, who were busy “genociding” each other long before Europeans allegedly tried it on them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceremonial_pipe
During his travels down the Mississippi River in 1673, Father Jacques Marquette documented the universal respect that the ceremonial pipe was shown among all Native peoples he encountered, even those at war with each other. He claimed that presenting the pipe during battle would halt the fighting. The Illinois people gave Marquette such a pipe as a gift to ensure his safe travel through the interior of the land.
When the Europeans arrived in the Illinois Country of N. America, the native tribes were feasting on abundant game, including such megafauna as bison, moose, elk, deer, bear and cougar. Yep. In the Degannes Memoir, the author notes that the Illini tribes sometimes bagged 60 different animal species on their hunts, and additionally farmed corn, beans and squash.
They were also not exactly responsible stewards of the environment; they overkilled North American megafauna to the point of extinction long before Europeans arrived.
By the time Illinois became a state in 1818, virtually all the native tribes of the former Illinois Country had been defeated and the survivors banished to reservations.
I must add that the demise of the Illini tribes came primarily at the hands of other native tribes after the arrival of the Europeans had upset the balance of power. In particular the Iroquois tribes had acquired firearms from the Dutch and English in the fur trade, giving them advantage in firepower that allowed the Iroquois to dominate and and destroy any number of neighboring tribes during the course of the so-called Beaver and French & Indian Wars. By 1650, the Iroquois had expanded their territory and the fur trade into the Illinois Country, chasing the Illini across the Mississippi River.
During this time, the number of Illini tribes was reduced from twelve to five: the Cahokia, Kaskaskia, Michigamea, Peoria, and Tamaroa remained, while the Chepoussa, Chinkoa, Coiracoentanon, Espeminkia, Maroa, Moingwena, and Tapouaro had disappeared or merged into the remaining five tribes.
But the Illini had other enemies all around them to the north, west and south in addition to the Iroquois coming in from the east. It is some testament to the martial skill and warrior spirit of the Illini tribes to consider they’d held on to this very choice territory for some unknown period of time before the Europeans arrived, and it was only the changed dynamic brought on by the arrival of the Europeans that upset existing balances of power throughout the Americas, and let their enemies gain the upper hand.
Unfortunately for the Illini, they’d allied themselves with the French who wouldn’t sell them firearms.
Finally, as the author Jef Costello notes, there was a very wide gap of several thousand years of cultural and technological development that divided the peoples of the two hemispheres and gave one an overwhelming advantage against the other.
Is that you, Pauline?
Your typically Western problem is in seeing the Earth as property. That is the pathopsychology that has seen the natural world devastated, and our doom sealed. Enjoy your last twenty years (if we have that long).. Perhaps you can find some varmints to shoot, trap or poison, and some tree to chop down.
I’d say that you’re a far better example of simian, racist troll, but that would be an insult to monkeys.
Whistling past the graveyard, Shlomo.
I can smell you from Sarah Palin’s house. hehe. How about trying a disappearing act, boy. teehee. And please wash your ass before you do.
Cue: That Smell by Lynyrd Skynyrd
My dear goy,
The only word I understood in the incoherent verbal diarrhea you wrote is: graveyard.
Speaking of which (graveyard), it sounds and smells a lot like the current state of the US and the EU.
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This Land is your land
This Land is my land
From California to the New York’s island.
This Land was made for you and me.
Of course Americans seized the land from the Indians. Little distinction matters if it was “sold” or “stolen” — as if the Indians had maintained clear chains of title and so forth. Often “sales” happened in light of the fact that what was coming would be worse absent the “sale”. And even more often, in fact constantly, the Indian doing the “sale” was no relation to the surprised other ones who actually inhabited the land in question. Americans also completely destroyed Indian cultures. Most of the genocide would be accidental, in the form of imported European diseases. But still it happened.
Face up to the facts. Indians were roughly treated and greatly wronged. People who try to rationalize otherwise only look foolish.
On the other hand, everybody who was involved on both sides are dead. All that was destroyed is gone forever, it cannot be brought back. “Restitution”, from whom to whom? It really is a matter for God to sort out now. Go ahead and give Virginia back to … who? I might be all for that, to be honest, but not for said reasons of “restitution”, but more to get rid of the clowns who run the place now, on the theory that we could hardly do worse.
Whistling past the graveyard, Shlomo.
I can smell you from Sarah Palin’s house. hehe. How about trying a disappearing act, boy. teehee. And please wash your ass before you do.
Cue: That Smell by Lynyrd Skynyrd
My dear goy,
Whistling past the graveyard, Shlomo.
I can smell you from Sarah Palin’s house. hehe. How about trying a disappearing act, boy. teehee. And please wash your ass before you do.
Cue: That Smell by Lynyrd Skynyrd
How did this work in practical life?
Did the Europeans send over an army and clear out the Indians, so settlers/pioneers could follow and establish farms and villages?
Or did ships full of wanna bee settlers, with kith and kin, show up, start homesteads with one hand and fight the Indians with the other?
Did the settlers take over established farms?
The best thing to do would have been, to leave a whole continent to a stone age culture.
That’s like asking if the Turk and Mongol hordes stole Central Asia from the native White people – they did. Or if the Greeks had their land stolen in Anatolia – they did. Bantu Blacks stole land from pygmies. European Jews stole land from the Palestinians. Slanty eyed people stole land from the Black looking natives [the negritos] of the Philippines and Thailand. The Australian Aborigines in certain theories, arrived only 5,000 years ago and brought dingos with them, and stole the land from kinky haired negrito looking people.
It happens. The only difference is the Jew controlled media focuses only on Whites because guilt tripping White people is vital to them continuing to rule as a minority in the West. Same with slavery. Arabs get a pass, while Whites get exclusive guilt and blame for it.
As far as I (American and not Jewish), the Jews are welcome to kick, or kill, the Arab natives out of Palestine so as to occupy it. What I strenuously object to is the involvement ofmycountry in the process in any way at all (proorcon), or inany such process underway outside the US’s own borders.
I think I would object (alittleless strenuously) to such a project inside the US, as well, especially if my own group were its object.
The book “1491” notes that after Columbus arrived >99% of most native American tribe populations disappeared due to introduction, unintentionally, of European “childhood” diseases, for which the Indians had no immunity. This has also been stated as the reason the massive populations put up so little resistance to their Spanish conquerors.
Although smallpox is often presented as the main disease that killed the native Americans, measles which is much more contagious and for which the Indians had no immunity was probably the most deadly disease, killing quickly. The Europeans, in turn, brought syphilis, for which the Indians had some immunity, back to Europe ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3956094/
It’s too funny to see this many white butthurt goyim in one place.
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Another worthless try from the most deluded part of the western population to learn to indigeneous people their history to battle against their “leftist” rivals ; stop agitating yourself and go do something useful, your sentimentalism and inner-racism will be agitated in a not-so-long time for another war for your masters.
Is that you, Marcia?
The amount of money wasted on these people in all of North America over the last 100 years is staggering. It is mostly all wasted. It has not improved their lot one ounce.
Great comment!
It’s not just left-wingers who propagate and use this genocide myth for political purposes. Famous “right-winger” David Cole does too, as do other rabid Zionists.
Yep! This is one of the reasons I refer to him as David Mole.
Right: no harm.
It’s Hollywood: if 6’3″ blue eyed John Wayne can play Genghis Khan, then anything is possible.
Not exactly. We killed 95% of them without knowing it. Diseases killed off 50 million of them, without them having ever even known about a white or a black white man.
And so the rest of it was just a mop-up operation.
All right. Now you’ve made it clear. The English word slave comes from Slav, not Slav from the English word slave.
And now something about land theft, but this time in Europe. The so-called (Anglo) Saxons and Franks were one Semitic people originating from Sumer, or rather from Chaldea.
They were brought from Sassanid Persia as mercenaries at the end of the Roman Empire to defend against the Celts.
In Europe, apart from the Celts, the natives for thousands of years were the Teutons (who were not Germanic people at all) and the Slavs. In the times of Julius Caesar, Germania was inhabited by Slavs.
Originally invaders from Sassanian Persia conquered Britain and then began the conquest of continental Europe, starting with the founding of their first country, AustrASIA.
The fight between the Sassanids and the Europeans – Celts and Slavs – continues to this day.
Just one more linguistic digression at the end – in Slavic languages Slovo = Word, Germans = Mutes. So we have a war Word vs Mute.
You sound like this strange reptilian looking neighbor down the street who lives in a Airstream trailer that I believe doubles as a time portal to another dimension.
Beings like him have been documenting/mapping parts they’ll flatten and what parts will be human prison slave colonies, similar to what Zionist are doing to Palestinians only to the 4th power.
It’s rumored that Jews are shape shifting aliens who’ve morphed into human form and will eventually eradicate all humans.
I was not here, this comment will self destruct in 48 hours.
Ever been to an Indian reservation? Trust me. They are african reservations. No Indians at all to be seen
It’s not just left-wingers who propagate and use this genocide myth for political purposes. Famous “right-winger” David Cole does too, as do other rabid Zionists. Their position is that the genocide of injuns is real, and therefore, it excuses whatever Jews do to Arabs in Gaza. And if you complain about Gaza, you should probably either leave the USA or dump the entirety of your 401k at the entrance of the Navajo reservation, or both.
Naturally, Zionists exempt themselves from these acts of contrition, even though they benefited materially from a European-settled America. Gentile Americans never benefited from an ethnically cleansed Palestine–quite the opposite, they helped pay for it.
Yep! This is one of the reasons I refer to him as David Mole.
It’s not just left-wingers who propagate and use this genocide myth for political purposes. Famous “right-winger” David Cole does too, as do other rabid Zionists.
By the same Jewish Supremacists whose entire history is based on genocide (and non-stop lying, stealing, etc. etc. I could go on but I'd never finish).We don't take history lessons from hypocrites. And no one thinks for a second that you give a shit about Indians. Your interpretation of history is all about ass-covering.P.S.Since I know how important that dopamine hit is for you sanctimonious trolls,
Their unnecessary deaths are now seen as a near-genocidal event
I have never ever have had a conversation with you ever. You know what is in my mind and my knowledge? Get real by being engaging would be a good start and recommendation in my lifelong experiences. Bless your heart! “Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.” James Madison
The props in the death pit scene were rather poorly made. Just foam human figures painted black.
“If the natives had banded together in racial defense instead of tribal infighting they might have survived more racially intact.”
Oh the irony.
250 million?? Have you been taking lessons from the chosen?
Prof. Fynn-Paul asks, “why does the historical record provide so many examples of Indians voluntarily wandering into English and Dutch camps, and even climbing on board ships,” if today’s leftists are correct about the rapacity with which Europeans went about trying to murder and enslave them?
A very good question …
Not quite.
Word source tells me the word slave was appropriated after a long time because of the large number of Slavs who were enslaved back in the old days.
Not too likely the early adumbrations of the word would have led to its widespread use.
In discussions of word origins the usually mention the association. As part Slavic myself I was always aware of it.
Any organization, in Canada, that receives government funding, is required to include a similar statement adapted to the region. In my area, it includes Métis (half breeds) and a tribe chased out of a neighbouring province by another tribe, arriving about the same time as Whitey.
In the spirit of respect and reconciliation, we acknowledge that Perimeter Institute is located upon lands that have been inhabited by Indigenous peoples from the beginning. In particular we acknowledge the Haldimand Tract. We thank the Anishinaabe, Haudenosaunee, and Neutral peoples for hosting us on their land.
This article is useful only for the few factoids it contained. It is equivocal, attempts to be somewhat even handed, and brings along the emotional baggage of how cruel the Indians were to their own indigenous kind.
Remember the “Prime Directive” from Star Dreck? “First do no harm”. The Enterprise was entrusted and commanded to not influence the civilizations it encountered, whatever judgments or standards were applied. This is valid and wise. The effects of “civilizing”, “converting”, are unpredictable and unforeseen. And what right do they interlocutors have to proselytize and preach their values?
Therefore, largely influenced by a Buddhist perspective, the Europeans should have adopted a “hands off”, neutral, and inherent respect for the Indians’ values and mores. Conquest should have (and always should be) avoided at all costs. This is not a specific principle but a general and universal one that should have applied to all colonial encounters. Trade and other commercial relations should have proceeding, as a mutual understanding and benefit. The Europeans could have enriched themselves, while maintaining the principles that they totally ignored and suppressed, existent in the Christian religion.
I find it hard to take Christianity seriously, because of its wet spaghetti structure and fealty to its high sounding tenets and canons. No wars or conquest have ever been fought using Buddhism as rationale, imperative, or justification. Unlike the Abrah Ham Hock religions, docrine and central ideals and values cannot be just put aside, suspended, or substituted, exemptions carved out, etc, etc.
This article is a waste of time. Like an airplane that taxis around an airport in circles, but never gets airborne and launches to a higher level, it is a thowaway, sports page section of some banal rag.
Their unnecessary deaths are now seen as a near-genocidal event
By the same Jewish Supremacists whose entire history is based on genocide (and non-stop lying, stealing, etc. etc. I could go on but I’d never finish).
We don’t take history lessons from hypocrites. And no one thinks for a second that you give a shit about Indians. Your interpretation of history is all about ass-covering.
P.S.
Since I know how important that dopamine hit is for you sanctimonious trolls,
I’ll let you get the last word in.
I disagree that America is at fault for the problems here. Much of the rot happened in the British Empire, where the Rothschilds had bought/married into their royalty and gained royal privileges, which has been used to bankroll all the subversion in America starting before the founding of the Federal Reserve.
The fact is, these guys act as a Mafia, and they’re drawn to anywhere there’s concentrated wealth that they can swindle. Any sufficiently rich civilization would do, and the same thing happened to Russia with the Bolshevik takeover, and even Weimar Germany which had no great resources to plunder other than a productive and intelligent people. While it’s a shame to see America’s military might slaved to the Zionist conspiracy, the same happened with the British Navy forcing the Chinese to take opium to enrich the Sassoons, or the Russian soldiers fighting to enlarge the Bolshevik realm.
This is a battle that can’t be fought with armies, but with ideas. They turned our great civilization against us, but we can turn it back. We’ll be stronger for it in the end.
No one stole “America” from the indians. There was no America but before Europeans created it. All there was, was a vast expanse of land occupied by primitive bipeds gathered into competing tribes, driving each other and all of the megafauna into extinction.
The premise of an existing Amerindian “nation” is also a fallacy. The Amerindians had no concept of nations, or sovereignty, and made no distinction between property and possession, or ownership and occupation.
They happened to wander over a land bridge a few thousand years earlier, wiped out whatever even more primitive beings lived here, took a crap, and somehow this translates into ownership within the current historical fallacy.
Bellum Judea is based ontheft,genocide,secrecy, andscapegoating.
Of course, scapegoating is necessary for maintaining secrecy, and explains why they need to accuse their scapegoat of theft and genocide.
Ah, a shitposter enters the debate to start a flame war.No Thanks!But I will let you get the last word in, since I know how important that is for you trolls.Replies: @The Old Philosopher
Ah, a white solipsist enters the debate.
Ah, you recognized the truth about yourself and let your babbling do the talking.
Ah, a white solipsist enters the debate.
Ah, a shitposter enters the debate to start a flame war.
No Thanks!
But I will let you get the last word in, since I know how important that is for you trolls.
lol, you do know that Adam and Eve didn’t have a belly button.
ah, by way of a song some serious science here folks….
Freedumb of religion enshrined in constitutions, freedom from religion buried under an mountain of Abrahamic merchandising fuckery and crap.
Indian taxcattle got the “res” and casinos, no time to figure out what’s stolen from whom.
Megafauna of the Pleistocene | Randall Carlson.
California 130,000 Years Ago:
Indigenous Neanderthals, Not Cro-Magnons ☠️.Source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/new-evidence-human-activity-north-america-130000-years-ago-180963046/Source: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2129042-first-americans-may-have-been-neanderthals-130000-years-ago/
From The New York Times:
Neanderthal Or Cretin? A Debate Over Iodine
Dr Jerome E Dobson, geographer at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, offers provocative theory that iodine deficiency was responsible for physical differences between Neanderthals and modern humans, and could explain why they were so rapidly and completely replaced by modern humans in Europe about 30,000 years ago; Dobson suggests that Neanderthals may actually have been anatomically modern humans who were pathologically altered by iodine-deficient diseases such as cretinism; drawings; iodine condition might also explain why Neanderthal traits like heavy brows and thick bones did not persist even if their genes continued in later European populations; paleontologists react critically (M)
I was not aware of this argument in college but I support it strongly. A previous article I read on the net indicated that there was a repositioning of the thyroid in our human past and that this was more proof of the theory.
At 39,000 bc there was a proposed nova explosion from the Geminga star which brought material to Earth, followed by 30,000 and later ejecta that showered the Earth.
The damaged Neanderthals were not a separate race but Modern Humans exposed to the radiation of the Geminga nova, and the alteration of the food stuffs being depleted in iodine.
The theory posed here: REGRESSION, is easily supportable by looking at history.
This is why the US*must* stand with the genocidal Zionists, a similar sin of their own.
Let’s end this stupid charade already.
Same with Grey Owl aka Archibald Stansfeld Belaney.
I don’t see that any harm was done. These people loved the Red Indians and were able to pass themselves off as Indians, and publicised worthy causes, like awareness about the degradation of the environment.
After every war – the winners write the history – it’s basically a right of conquest. And as the author keeps repeating, we’re dealing with the current
mis-history of the left because we were literally conquered by DaLeft in all institutions which form, direct and control our culture.
Antonio Gramsci anyone?
Eight years ago –http://www.crushlimbraw.com – I stated that if anyone my age or thereabouts had paid attention, this bastardization of our society might not have happened……but who knows? So now what?
I fully admit my former ignorance and have declared my intent to spend the rest of my life to not only repent, but work to re-direct all our efforts towards what is true, beautiful and good……as in PROVE ALL THINGS!
Mar 23, 2022 A Brief History Of The Trail of Tears
The Trail of Tears refers to the forced displacement of what white American colonizers called “The Five Civilized Tribes”. Over twenty years between 1830 and 1850; somewhere around 60,000 to 100,000 Native Americans were forced from their homes into the land the new Government had decided would be “Indian Territory”. During their removal, countless died from exposure, disease, and starvation. Their unnecessary deaths are now seen as a near-genocidal event, and the route they walked and died upon is forevermore known as The Trail of Tears.
Aug 27, 2021 Great Sioux Warrior and Mystic Medicine Man | Full Documentary
Profile of the great Sioux warrior and mystic medicine man who led his people in a bloody struggle for survival against the encroachment of the white man’s “civilization”. Includes the story of his victory over Custer at Little Bighorn.
By the same Jewish Supremacists whose entire history is based on genocide (and non-stop lying, stealing, etc. etc. I could go on but I'd never finish).We don't take history lessons from hypocrites. And no one thinks for a second that you give a shit about Indians. Your interpretation of history is all about ass-covering.P.S.Since I know how important that dopamine hit is for you sanctimonious trolls,
Their unnecessary deaths are now seen as a near-genocidal event
Essentially, the Left portrays Indians as peaceful, happy-go-lucky flower children, living in harmony with nature and sharing all things. In every respect, this view is false to the point of absurdity.
It’s absurd because it’s a strawman.
Indians were extraordinarily violent and ethnocentric people, who were busy “genociding” each other long before Europeans allegedly tried it on them.
While it is true that many of the tribes were involved in what I’d call blood feuds with neighboring tribes, there were also peacemakers among the native tribes who’d adopted the ritual of the peace pipe, or calumet.
Lighting up to seal the deal was a respected tradition among some but not all of the tribes, and the pipes themselves held special significance:
During his travels down the Mississippi River in 1673, Father Jacques Marquette documented the universal respect that the ceremonial pipe was shown among all Native peoples he encountered, even those at war with each other. He claimed that presenting the pipe during battle would halt the fighting. The Illinois people gave Marquette such a pipe as a gift to ensure his safe travel through the interior of the land.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceremonial_pipe
Jef Costello wrote:
They were also not exactly responsible stewards of the environment; they overkilled North American megafauna to the point of extinction long before Europeans arrived.
When the Europeans arrived in the Illinois Country of N. America, the native tribes were feasting on abundant game, including such megafauna as bison, moose, elk, deer, bear and cougar. Yep. In the Degannes Memoir, the author notes that the Illini tribes sometimes bagged 60 different animal species on their hunts, and additionally farmed corn, beans and squash.
Suffice it to say there were at that time vast herds of bison that were nearly wiped out later by Europeans with firearms in what many see as a coordinated effort to deny the native tribes one of their main sources of food.
But the earlier extirpation of megafauna in the Americas is related to some cataclysmic event that likely occurred when there were few, if any humans in N. America.
The native tribes were no doubt still dealing with the climatic challenges of the Little Ice Age when the Europeans arrived in the W. Hemisphere, by which time the earlier Cahokian mound-building culture in Illinois had fallen, plausibly as a result of this climatic downturn.
It is not clear if the Illini tribes descended from Cahokia, but the several tribes were probably never very numerous, plausibly numbering about 10,000 individuals when they were first encountered by the French. Whatever the actual numbers, it’s important to note that these Illini tribes occupied a vast territory including parts of several states located around the Mississippi, Missouri, Illinois and Ohio rivers, which later became the home states of millions of Americans.
By the time Illinois became a state in 1818, virtually all the native tribes of the former Illinois Country had been defeated and the survivors banished to reservations. Today the descendants of the Illini and closely related Miami occupy a tiny sliver of land in NE Oklahoma.
I must add that the demise of the Illini tribes came primarily at the hands of other native tribes after the arrival of the Europeans had upset the balance of power. In particular the Iroquois tribes had acquired firearms from the Dutch and English in the fur trade, giving them advantage in firepower that allowed the Iroquois to dominate and and destroy any number of neighboring tribes during the course of the so-called Beaver and French & Indian Wars. By 1650, the Iroquois had expanded their territory and the fur trade into the Illinois Country, chasing the Illini across the Mississippi River.During this time, the number of Illini tribes was reduced from twelve to five: the Cahokia, Kaskaskia, Michigamea, Peoria, and Tamaroa remained, while the Chepoussa, Chinkoa, Coiracoentanon, Espeminkia, Maroa, Moingwena, and Tapouaro had disappeared or merged into the remaining five tribes.But the Illini had other enemies all around them to the north, west and south in addition to the Iroquois coming in from the east. It is some testament to the martial skill and warrior spirit of the Illini tribes to consider they'd held on to this very choice territory for some unknown period of time before the Europeans arrived, and it was only the changed dynamic brought on by the arrival of the Europeans that upset existing balances of power throughout the Americas, and let their enemies gain the upper hand.Unfortunately for the Illini, they'd allied themselves with the French who wouldn't sell them firearms.Finally, as the author Jef Costello notes, there was a very wide gap of several thousand years of cultural and technological development that divided the peoples of the two hemispheres and gave one an overwhelming advantage against the other.
By the time Illinois became a state in 1818, virtually all the native tribes of the former Illinois Country had been defeated and the survivors banished to reservations.
The Italians did enuff stealing in America only to be vastly surpassed by the Kike. Italians for the most part straightened up but you can see why they were not welcomed to America at first. And unfortunately to a much lesser degree this app!is to the Irish as well. Troof be the troof. Like it or lump it.
I didn’t know that. The famous crying Indian was really Italian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Eyes_Cody
A fake like Elizabeth Warren. She didn’t have a third party expert do her DNA test, she got her own who claimed her DNA showed that her great great great was likely to have some Red Indian blood. Other experts say that DNA is so diluted going back that far most Americans can claim they are Injuns.
Neither are the sand gypsies aka kikes IMO. Neither are friends of Whites of European ancestry.
No one really ever owns anything in this world. The Jewy gubmint makes you pay property takes on that home you “own. ” Even that car you drive is living on borrowed time.
And the meek shall inherit the Earth. Hmm, hopefully this is true and the assholes on power trips finally get what’s coming to them. Oh, and that would be a large portion of Whites and NEARLY ALL non whites of non European descent. This shit about angelic kikes, and other non whites is ridiculous. Narrow is the pathway to Heaven or something like that. No bad deed goes unseen.
Cue: Highway To Hell by AC/DC
The palestinians aren’t quite quite that important to anyone. Not worth going to war over.
I understand that a dumb American goy like you does not have the knowledge and/or the intelectual capacity to understand the Middle East, but on quite the contrary, the Palestinians are of the utmost importance to make our Greater Israel a reality.
Only something owned can be stolen. National territories are not owned — only occupied or possessed by brute force. Hence national territories cannot be stolen. They get conquered not stolen.
I like the way you think. Very Jewish.
America was not stolen.
Canada was not stolen.
Australia was not stolen.
Palestine was not stolen.
You know why? Because we tell you so.
Deal with it goyim.
ABRACADABRA 🪄
Now we’re turning the tables.
Blacks and Browns are stealing Europe.
Blacks and Browns are stealing Canada.
Blacks and Browns are stealing the USA.
You know why? Because we make it so.
Deal with it goyim.
ABRACADABRA 🪄
Concludes, sort of:
Not Stolen succeeded in reminding me that our treatment of the Indians was, on balance, pretty bad.
And thereby proving that the white colonists indeed came and stole the land from its present inhabitants who as occupiers of the territory when they arrived were entitled to continued peaceful possession of it they had every right to defend against outsiders seeking to encroach upon it that is a law of nature as every species without exceptions defends from outsiders territory they inhabit that provides for them the necessities of life. That’s the Darwinian struggle for life. In this struggle, you either fight and prevail or you retreat and succumb.
Both have a right to engage in the struggle, and between two rights, force always decides.
Thus the native population had every right to defend their territory against the white colonialists, and wipe them out to preserve their territory. That’s period, paragraph, end of story.
What told against the native population is their vastly minimal technological development that gave the colonialists vastly superior weapons weapons that enabled them to crush the Indians and the
far lower level of social organization and cohesion they had that limited from matching the greater numbers the colonials were able to put in the field against them that was grounded in the the much lower level of social organization that their more limited scale of productive forces imposed on them.
To put it simply, the native people almost universally practiced hunter/gathering production using simple tools that prevented them from expANDING THEIR SOCIAL LRGANIZATIO BEYOND tribal organization that in turn were not sufficient diverse to produce the kind of divisions of labor that enhanced technological innovation. This was especially so in North American where the vast tracts of available land made it possible for tribes to move away from adversaries rather then compelling them to stay and fight for their territory. Just note the vastly lower population density in North America than in Europe that required the Europeans to create social organizations that unified much larger populations than anyt4hing the North American natives had to do. (There is a difference in South America where the South American population much larger social organization developed over territory that was hemmed in by natural barriers that made it difficult for groups simply to split off and prosper elsewhere. Indeed, the social organizations that developed in eastern South American pretty much mirrored those in North America because of the wide expanses of land in that region that were not nearly as densely populated as along the western coastal areas or in area north of where the Panama canal is no located.
Thus the North American native population could never unify to pose a solid front to oppose the colonialists who were encroaching on their territory. The colonialists could, instead divide and separately conquer the tribes inhabiting North America that gave them an enormous advantage to seize their territory.
The fact that the social organization and technological capabilities of the colonizers enabled them to generate the superior force to crush the Indians did nor confer upon them any right to do so whic is the foundation for the thesis that the colonizers did not steal the land from the natives. Of course they did, because they had the force necessary to accomplish it.
What is most interesting is that the thesis that the white colonialists did not actually “take” the land
is published exactly at the time that the Jews are engaged in engaging in ethnically cleansing by forcing the Palestinians from their territory. Now that’s exactly what the white colonialists did to the Indians, and by justifying that cleansing operation, it also justifies what the Jews aRE TRYING TO DO TO THE pALESTINIANS.
But as before, it was the people who were in peaceful possession of the territory they inhabited who have the inherent right of self defense to prevent the invader from seizing it that under International Law recognizes the Palestinians are entitled to use force to eject the occupier, and the occupier has no right whatever to use force to sustain their illegal occupation.
I wonder. Hope that you are correct.
It’s not the same as a hundred to seventy years ago, when C.P.C. had many chosenite advisors.
However, in post-Deng China, many involved in business or trade admire (or used to admire) the Jews for what are euphemistically called ‘sharp practices’ (cheating) in business.
I don’t know about the mainland now,
my friends from there now are, like me, not very interested in business nor very greedy, just tech. work and a decent living.
Chinese friends from Taiwan still have the idea of Jews as superior business-people.
Total sample size of about six, so not definitive, but P.R.C. needs to take great care on it.
I look into Chabad Ludovico in the Ukraine and Japan. Too many, a clear push, although for the Ukraine, they have all run away, except for the top of the govt. For sure, they must have skeleton staff at their Ukraine sites, especially Dnieprpetroprovosk, and just as Russia allows the Israelis to bomb Syria at will, doubtless there is a directive to not hit any Chabad Ludovico site.
In Syria, the Russians have an excuse, it seems the Israelis usually bombard Syria from Lebanese air-space, or from northern Palestine.
Should check on Chabad Ludovico in China. I would guess that C.P.C. has been foolish enough to allow them to set ‘Chabad Centres’ up in various places.
Would be lovely to see a massivecoup d’etat to overthrow Zelensky’s ZOG farce, but it seems the internal measures (imprisonment, public torture. banning all oppositional political parties, all opposional media) make that unlikely.
“Steal” is a bad term, “conquer” was the word used for such enterprises, and it has a positive tone that “stolen” lacks.
Anyway, whether the lands were “stolen”, “conquered”, colonized or anything else, those types of “aknowledgements” are cringey and stupid. Because Leftism and Leftists at bottom are cringey and stupid. The Unabomber was right in their assessment of them. It’s not even an ideology, it’s just some weird way of looking at life through a completely deformed lens, where “victims” are always saintly and “oppressors” are always evil, when we know things are rarely so clear cut in real life.
The Indians were here before, but no one has an eternal claim to land (except, I guess, the “Jews” in Israel?!?), they were actually lots of different, enemy tribes, most were also quite violent, and in the end they lost. The end.
The palestinians aren’t quite quite that important to anyone. Not worth going to war over.
I understand that a dumb American goy like you does not have the knowledge and/or the intelectual capacity to understand the Middle East, but on quite the contrary, the Palestinians are of the utmost importance to make our Greater Israel a reality.
The palestinians aren’t quite quite that important to anyone. Not worth going to war over.
Only something owned can be stolen. National territories are not owned — only occupied or possessed by brute force. Hence national territories cannot be stolen. They get conquered not stolen.
I like the way you think. Very Jewish.
Only something owned can be stolen. National territories are not owned — only occupied or possessed by brute force. Hence national territories cannot be stolen. They get conquered not stolen.
Russkies AND Ukrainians are MY WHITE brothers and sisters while a Jewkrainian is an alien enemy to all Whites of European descent. Russians and Ukies need to join forces and fight (((the real enemy.)))
The Aboriginal, the American Indian, and others are humans with souls, it is the kike, the nigra, and sand nigras/Pakis/Turks etc., who I wonder about. However, I have met some “foreign” nigras while traveling the Caribbean and they seemed more virtuous than than nigra in America and Europe, but even these niccas change as soon as they invade White nations. That cool cab driver in Port au Prince becomes a “nigger” after a year of privilege in JewSA.
Of course there are outliers in all races. A husky feather Indian beat a frail White cellmate to death in a Canadian prison awhile back. Inmates in adjoining cells screamed for help but useless prison guards were either napping or jerking off. Inmates reported the guy beat the frail inmate for hours with his fists, kicks, knees, take a break, repeat, etc.