Johnny Dawes, rock climber: 'You've got to mess about' - video interview
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British rock climber Johnny Dawes, who in 1986 became the first man to climb an E9 grade route – 'Indian Face' in Snowdonia – talks toPeter Beaumont about why climbing is like anarchy, and the idea of diminishing returns. His autobiographyFull of Myself is out now