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NWG                                                Steve CrockerRFC - 140                                          UCLANIC - 6725                                         4 May 71                     AGENDA FOR THE MAY NWG MEETING                     ------------------------------    The NWG meeting will be from 8 p.m., Sunday, May 16 throughWednesday evening May 19.  All meetings except Sunday night will takeplace in the Wicker Room of the Dennis Hotel.  The Sunday even- ingmeeting will take place in the Royal Box Room of the Dennis Hotel.Evening meetings will start at 8 p.m.  Afternoon meetings at 1:30 p.m.and morning meetings at 9 a.m.  We will meet Sunday evening, all dayMonday (three sessions), Tuesday morning and evening and Wednesdayevening.  At times when we are not meeting you are invited to use theWicker Room for private meetings or whatever.  It is reserved thruThursday afternoon.    Below are the topics to be discussed in each meeting and the listof relevant RFC numbers which should be read prior to coming.TIME: Sunday eveningTITLE: Short Reports                         (RFC's 113, 131, 134)Each host will give a very short -- five minutes or less -- report ontheir state of development, including hardware, NCP and Telnet andincluding any applications in progress or planned.  In addition, thecommittees will summarize their progress and new sites will introducethemselves.  More extended committee reports and discussions will takeplace later.TIME: Monday morningTITLE: NIC and Telnet                        (RFC's 103, 106, 112, 109,                                              110, 115, 118, 137, 139)At 9:00 a.m. Dick Watson will talk about the status, plans and policiesof the NIC.At 10:00 a.m. Tom O'Sullivan will present the Telnet committee'sproposed protocol and lead a discussion concerning it.TIME: Monday afternoonTITLE: File Transfer, TIP, Network Planning   (RFC's 114, 122, 133, 136)       and other ARPA Projects                                                                [Page 1]

1) Abhai Bhushan of MAC and Jim White of UCSB will discuss their filetransfer protocols.2) BBN representatives will talk about the TIP, includingspecifications, delivery schedules, prices and protocols.3) Bob Kahn and Larry Roberts will talk about several aspects of theNetwork management and the long-range network planning.  This will be anopportunity for questions on who will manage the Network, how it willgrow and what sites will come on to be directly addressed to Larry.4) Some other projects are in progress which affect many of the ARPAsites and are not centered in any particular site.  These includeefforts to produce a list-processing system and a speech understandingsystem.TIME: Monday eveningTITLE: Operating Systems and NetworksThe protocols being developed in the Network Working Group are similarto interprocesses communication facilities within operating systems.  Itis not fully understood how these protocols should be built, and whatthe tradeoffs are for alternatives; the same can be said forinterprocess communication facilities in operating systems.  From timeto time it is suggested that there would be some payoff in studyingthese matters from an academic point of view, not quite so tied to thepressure of producing a particular system.Professor Art J. Bernstein of SUNY Stonybrook writes:     "The problem of designing an operating system for a computer which     is to be imbedded in a network has received little attention.  In     addition to providing those capabilities one normally expects from     an advanced multi-programmed system such as file sharing, inter-     process communication and a hierarchical process structure, such a     system should be structured so that, as nearly as possible, a user     process is ig- norant of the actual location in the network of the     files and processes with which it is interacting."He is building an operating system for a PDP-15 based on this philosophyand will come to make a short presentation on his system, after which wewill discuss how to organize interaction among various academic efforts,including those not within the ARPA community.                                                                [Page 2]

TIME: Tuesday morningTITLE: Data of Reconfiguration Service and    (RFC's 138 and one yet to come       Data Management Systems                 by Shoshani)At 9:00 a.m. John Heafner of RAND will meet with his committee anddiscuss some of the open issues regarding the proposed datareconfiguration service.  This meeting is open to other interestedparties.At 10:00 a.m. Arie Shoshani of SDC will chair a meeting on data sharingon computer networks.  He writes:     "The main purpose of the meeting is to discuss the subject of     sharing data on Computer Networks.  First, an intro- ductory paper     will be presented which will attempt to classify the issues     involved, discuss some approaches that one can take to achieve data     sharing and to point out some ad- vantages and disadvantages of     these approaches.  Then, an open discussion will be conducted.  As     a result, recommenda- tions will be attempted as to what approach     is best for the ARPA-Network, and possibly set up a commitee of     interested people to further investigate the problems.  It is     expected that participants will be prepared to discuss briefly data     management system they have or plan to have on the ARPA network."Peggy Karp of MITRE will attend and talk about the data managementsystem she is building to use facilities at BBN and UCSB.TIME: Tuesday eveningTITLE: Remaining Technical Matters        (RFC's 107, 117, 123, 124, 127                                           128, 129 and 132)The issues scheduled for this meeting are discussions of the socketnumbers, procedures for testing NCP's and Telnets, discussion of ways toexperiment with protocol, the initial connection protocol and remainingglitches in the second level protocol.TIME: Wednesday eveningTITLE: Non-Technical Matters              (RFC 113)                                                                [Page 3]

The Network Working Group has grown and changed considerably in the lasttwo years.  It now represents a strong voice in network planning but isperhaps not optimally organized for technical work. At this meeting wewill consider what we expect to happen by the end of 1971, what stepsshould be taken to achieve this and, in particular, how the NetworkWorking Groups should be organized and managed.       [ This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry ]         [ into the online RFC archives by Gert Doering 4/97 ]                                                                [Page 4]