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NWG/RFC #372                                           Richard W. WatsonNIC 11022                                              (SRI-ARC)                                                       12-JUL-72NOTES ON A CONVERSATION WITH BOB KAHN ON THE ICCCI called Bob Kahn and had a good chat with him about some aspectsof the ICCC meeting demonstration.  The points discussed and hisanswers were the following.What is the physical environment going to be like?   Bob has arranged for the Georgetown Ballroom of the Hilton   Hotel; it has 3000 square feet probably about 75x40 (exact   dimensions are not known to Bob at this time).   A carpeted false floor is to be installed and there will be   a partition for an area to show a movie on resource sharing   which will run more or less continuously.   There will not be booths in the normal sense but details   are not yet worked out.  Bob expects to have tables   arranged around the room holding 1 or 2 terminals and low 4   ft. partitions to break up the space.Who will man the booths?   Bob presently expects many terminals to be unmanned,   although manufcturers could have a sales rep.   There will probably be people from net sites at some of   them from time to time to demonstrate their programs.   We discussed the need for lots of experts from the network   around who can answer questions and help people.  Bob is in   favor of such a thing but has not had time yet to pull such   a group together and there is some uncertainty if enough   people will volunteer, his initial approach to people   yielded lots of people interested but with other things to   do.When will the equipment be on the floor and available to trythere?                                                                [Page 1]

NWG/RFC# 372                            RWW 12-JUL-72 9:39  11022Notes on a Conversation with Bob Kahn on the ICCCThe conference is tues-thurs oct 24-26 and at the momentthe room is only going to be available from the 22nd.  Thisseems to be a short time to install floor, TIP, terminals,phone lines, etc and Bob is going to try to get the roomthe previous Wed or Fri, but doesn't know yet.Bob would like to have working demo with terminals,resources at BBN in Aug.What resources are presently committed?   UCLA Klinerock will have some network measurement stuff to   demonstrate.   Stanford AI has indicated they will have some programs to   demone.   Utah Tony Hearn will have his Reduce program to demo, Berry   Wessler plans to demo something, Harvey Greenfield has some   sort of mdical program.   RAND before recent sakeup indicated iterest, status now not   known.   SDC will have some natural language programs and their   data management systems.   MIT Vezza and Kahn are looking into having some hardcopy   device such as Photon attached to a GE TS system.  Al has   some other things to demo.   Bob has contacted a number of non net sources such as the   NY Times (data base), Eastern Airlines etc., but has no   definite commitments yet.   We at ARC will of course have a number of things to   demonstrate.This ARPANET demo is the only show at the conference.  LarryRoberts has invited the ASIS people over for Thurs afternoon.                                                                [Page 2]

NWG/RFC# 372                            RWW 12-JUL-72 9:39  11022Notes on a Conversation with Bob Kahn on the ICCCThe TIP has at this time never been tested with 64 terminals,but they are going to be putting as many terminal on aspossible during July and testing the terminal to be suppliedford the conference.Starting about AUg 1 he expects to start testing to see whatterminals work with what resources and what glitches exist.I asked Bob if we could have enough space for a ARC NIC boothwith an IMLAC TI and room for people to watch our demo's.  Bobsaw no problem there; IMLAC has committed 2 terminals and wecan have one.  TI has not indicated they plan to loan terminalfor the show.  Hiram French is the man from IMLAC who issupposed to call us.  If there are more than 64 terminal orthe TIP can't support all, then they will have to scheduleterminal connections to the TIP.Bob is not sure who will be at the conference, its theme isnetworks and their impact on soceity, implications forregulation etc. so ther should be a broad spectrum of people;will send me a program.We talked about what kind of documentation help, signs etcwill be around to help people connect and use resources andgenerally understand wha the deomo is allabout.   Bob's present picture is some large 2x3 signs in the lobby   outside the main lecture room directing people to the demo   and then some signs inside explaining what's happening, a   card with some TIP commands,resources, a brochure with   actual scenerios of resource usage, the movie and some   people as the main on the floor sources of help.   We talked about the need to coordinate all this with NIC   documentation and our desire to help design all this.  Bob   and I are tentatively planning to get together the weekend   of July 7 here to plan this.  We need to have   thoughtcthrough ahead of time what we think should be done.ARPA except for Bob does not seem to have set up any budget forthis show except what their contractors are essentially willingto give as part of their ongoing research, therefore he has avery difficult job of pulling off such a large show without morehelp than he seems to have gotten so far (these are myconclusions not satements of his).                                                                [Page 3]

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