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Network Working Group                                         G. FishmanRequest for Comments: 3356                             Bell LaboratoriesObsoletes:2436                                               S. BradnerCategory: Informational                               Harvard University                                                             August 2002Internet Engineering Task Force and InternationalTelecommunication Union - TelecommunicationsStandardization Sector Collaboration GuidelinesStatus of this Memo   This memo provides information for the Internet community.  It does   not specify an Internet standard of any kind.  Distribution of this   memo is unlimited.Copyright Notice   Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2002).  All Rights Reserved.Abstract   This document provides guidance to aid in the understanding of   collaboration on standards development between the International   Telecommunication Union -- Telecommunication Standardization Sector   (ITU-T) and the Internet Society (ISOC) / Internet Engineering Task   Force (IETF).  It is an update of and obsoletesRFC 2436.  The   updates reflect changes in the IETF and ITU-T sinceRFC 2436 was   written.  The bulk of this document is common text with ITU-T   Supplement 3 to the ITU-T A-Series Recommendations.   Note:  This was approved by ITU-T TSAG on 30 November 2001 as a   Supplement to the ITU-T A-Series of Recommendations (will be numbered   as A-Series Supplement 3).Table of Contents1.  Scope...........................................................22.  Introduction ...................................................23.  Guidance on collaboration.......................................33.1 How to interact on ITU-T or IETF work items.....................33.2 Representation..................................................43.3 Document sharing................................................73.4 Simple cross referencing........................................83.5 Additional items................................................84.  Security Considerations........................................105.  Non-normative references.......................................106.  Acknowledgements...............................................10Fishman                      Informational                      [Page 1]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 20027.  Changes sinceRFC 2436.........................................108.  Author's addresses.............................................119.  Full Copyright Statement.......................................121. Scope   This document provides guidance to aid in the understanding of   collaboration on standards development between the ITU-T and the   Internet Society (ISOC) / Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF).   In the IETF, work is done in Working Groups (WG), mostly through   open, public mailing lists rather than face-to-face meetings.  WGs   are organized into Areas, each Area being managed by two co-Area   Directors.  Collectively, the Area Directors comprise the Internet   Engineering Steering Group (IESG).   In the ITU-T, work is defined by study Questions which are worked on   mostly through meetings led by Rapporteurs.  Questions are generally   grouped within Working Parties (WPs) led by a WP Chairman.  Working   Parties report to a parent Study Group led by a SG Chairman.2. Introduction   The telecommunication industry is faced with an explosion in growth   of the Internet and other IP (Internet Protocol) based networks.   Operators, manufacturers and software/application providers alike are   reconsidering their business directions and Standards Development   Organizations and Forums and Consortia are facing an immense   challenge to address this situation.   These challenges were considered by TSAG in September 1998 and IETF   shortly thereafter, when it was initially recognized that the ITU-T   and ISOC/IETF were already collaborating in a number of areas, and   that this collaboration must be strengthened within the context of   changes in work emphasis and direction within the ITU-T on studies   related to IP based networks.   For example, many Study Groups already address aspects of IP based   networks.  There are many topics of interest to ITU-T Study Groups in   the IP area that should be investigated (e.g., signaling, routing,   security, numbering & addressing, integrated management, performance,   IP - telecom interworking, access).  Since many of these topics are   also being investigated by the IETF, there is a requirement for close   collaboration.Fishman                      Informational                      [Page 2]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 2002   The current level of cooperation between the ITU-T and the IETF   should be built upon to ensure that the competence and experience of   each organization is brought to bear in the most effective manner and   in collaboration with the other.  This document provides guidelines   for collaboration between the ITU-T and the IETF.3. Guidance on Collaboration   This section builds on existing collaborative processes and details   some of the more important guidance points that each organization   should be aware of for effective collaboration.3.1 How to Interact on ITU-T or IETF Work Items   Study Groups that have identified work topics that are IP-related   should evaluate the relationship with topics defined in the IETF.   Current IETF Working Groups and their charters (IETF definition of   the scope of work) are listed in the IETF archives (seesection 3.5).   A Study Group may decide that development of a Recommendation on a   particular topic may benefit from collaboration with the IETF.  The   Study Group should identify this collaboration in its work plan   (specifically in that of each Question involved), describing the goal   of the collaboration and its expected outcome.   An IETF Working Group should also evaluate and identify areas of   relationship with the ITU-T and document the collaboration with the   ITU-T Study Group in its charter.  The following sections outline a   process that can be used to enable each group to learn about the   other's new work items.3.1.1 How the ITU-T Learns About Existing IETF Work Items   The responsibility is on individual Study Groups to review the   current IETF Working Groups to determine if there are any topics of   mutual interest.  Should a Study Group believe that there is an   opportunity for collaboration on a topic of mutual interest, it   should contact both the IETF Working Group Chair and the Area   Director(s) responsible.3.1.2 How the ITU-T learns about proposed new IETF work items   The IETF maintains a mailing list for the distribution of proposed   new work items among standards development organizations.  The IETF   forwards draft charters for all new and revised Working Groups and   Birds Of a Feather session announcements to the IETF NewWork mailing   list.  An ITU-T mail exploder is subscribed to this list.  It is   recommended that each Study Group subscribe to this ITU-T exploder,Fishman                      Informational                      [Page 3]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 2002   which is maintained by the TSB.  Members of the SG-specific listname   may include the SG Chairman, SG Vice Chairmen, Working Party   Chairmen, concerned Rapporteurs, other experts designated by the SG   and the SG Counselor.  This will enable the SGs to monitor the new   work items for possible overlap or interest to their Study Group.  It   is expected that this mailing list will see a few messages per month.   Each SG Chairman, or designated representative, may provide comments   on these charters by responding to the IESG mailing list at   iesg@ietf.org clearly indicating their ITU-T position and the nature   of their concern.  Plain-text email is preferred on the IESG mailing   list.   It should be noted that the IETF turnaround time for new Working   Group charters is two weeks.  As a result, the mailing list should be   consistently monitored.3.1.3 How the IETF Learns About ITU-T Work Items   The ITU-T work programme is documented in the Questions of each Study   Group.  These can be found on the ITU-T web site.   Study Groups should send updates to the IETF NewWork mailing list as   they occur.  Area Directors or WG Chairs should provide comments to   the relevant SG Chairman in cases of possible overlap or interest.3.2 Representation   ISOC, including its standards body IETF, is a Sector Member of the   ITU-T.  As a result, ISOC delegates are therefore afforded the same   rights as other ITU-T Sector Members (see 3.2.1).  Conversely, ITU-T   delegates may participate in the work of the IETF as representatives   of the ITU-T (see 3.2.2).  To promote collaboration it is useful to   facilitate communication between the organizations as further   described below.3.2.1 IETF Recognition at ITU-T   Participants from the IETF may participate in ITU-T meetings as ISOC   delegates if the appropriate IETF Working Group (or Area) has   approved their attendance.  This approval will be communicated to the   TSB in the form of a registration for a particular ITU-T meeting by   the IAB Chair.3.2.2 ITU-T Recognition at ISOC/IETF   ITU-T Study Group Chairmen can authorize one or more members to   attend an IETF meeting as an official ITU-T delegate speaking   authoritatively on behalf of the activities of the Study Group (or aFishman                      Informational                      [Page 4]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 2002   particular Rapporteur Group).  The Study Group Chairman sends the   ITU-T list of delegates by email to the Working Group chair, with a   copy to the Area Directors, and also to the Study Group.  Note that,   according to IETF process, opinions expressed by any such delegate   are given equal weight with opinions expressed by other working group   participants.3.2.3 Communication Contacts   To foster ongoing communication between the ITU-T and IETF, it is   important to identify and establish contact points within each   organization.  Contact points may include:   1) ITU-T Study Group Chairman and IETF Area Director      An IETF Area Director is the individual responsible for overseeing      a major focus of activity with a scope similar to that of an ITU-T      Study Group Chairman.  These positions are both relatively long-      term (of several years) and offer the stability of contact points      between the two organizations for a given topic.   2) ITU-T Rapporteur and IETF Working Group Chair      An IETF Working Group Chair is an individual who is assigned to      lead the work on a specific task within one particular Area with a      scope similar to that of an ITU-T Rapporteur.  These positions are      working positions (of a year or more) that typically end when the      work on a specific topic ends.  Collaboration here is very      beneficial to ensure the actual work gets done.   3) Other Contact Points      It may be beneficial to establish additional contact points for      specific topics of mutual interest.  These contact points should      be established early in the work effort, and in some cases the      contact point identified by each organization may be the same      individual.   Note that the current IETF Area Directors and Working Group Chairs   can be found in the IETF Working Group charters.  The current ITU-T   Study Group Chairmen and Rapporteurs are listed on the ITU-T web   page.3.2.4 Communication   Informal communication between contact points and experts of both   organizations is encouraged.  However, note that formal communication   from an ITU-T Study Group, Working Party or Rapporteur to anFishman                      Informational                      [Page 5]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 2002   associated IETF contact point must be explicitly approved and   identified as coming from the Study Group, Working Party or   Rapporteur Group, respectively.  Formal communication from the ITU-T   to the IETF should be addressed to the appropriate Working Group   Chairs and Area Directors with a copy to the email address   "statements@ietf.org."  These communications are placed by the IETF   onto a liaison statements web page athttp://www.ietf.org/IESG/liaison.html.  An individual at the IETF is   assigned responsibility for dealing with each communication that is   received.  The name and contact information of the responsible person   is listed with the links to the communications on this web page.   Conversely, formal communication from an IETF Working Group or Area   Director must also be explicitly approved and identified before   forwarding to any ITU-T contact.  This approval is indicated in IETF   communication by copying the appropriate Working Group Chairs and   Area Directors.  Formal communication is intended to allow the   sharing of positions between the IETF and the ITU-T outside of actual   documents (as described in 3.3).  This would cover such things as   comments on documents and requests for input.  The approved   communication is simply emailed from one body contact to another (the   appropriate mailing lists, as described in 3.2.5 may be copied).3.2.5 Mailing Lists   All IETF Working Groups and all ITU-T Study Group Questions have   associated mailing lists.   In the IETF, the mailing list is the primary vehicle for discussion   and decision-making.  It is recommended that the ITU-T experts   interested in particular IETF Working Group topics subscribe to and   participate in these lists.  IETF WG mailing lists are open to all   subscribers.  The IETF Working Group mailing list subscription and   archive information are noted in each Working Group's charter.  In   the ITU-T, the TSB has set up formal mailing lists for Questions,   Working Parties and other topics within Study Groups (more detail can   be found on the ITU website).  These mailing lists are typically used   for discussion of ITU-T contributions.  Note that individual   subscribers to this list must be affiliated with an ITU-T member (at   this time, there is no blanket inclusion of all IETF participants as   members, however, as a member, ISOC may designate representatives to   subscribe).  Alternatively, ITU-T members operate personal mailing   lists on various topics with no restrictions on membership (e.g.,   IETF participants are welcome).Fishman                      Informational                      [Page 6]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 20023.3 Document Sharing   During the course of ITU-T and IETF collaboration it is important to   share working drafts and documents among the technical working   groups.  Initially proposed concepts and specifications typically can   be circulated by email (often just repeating the concept and not   including the details of the specification) on both the IETF and   ITU-T mailing lists.  In addition, working texts (or URLs) of draft   Recommendations, Internet Drafts or RFCs may also be sent between the   organizations as described below.   Internet Drafts are available on the IETF web site.  The ITU-T can   make selected ITU-T documents available in a common FTP area on the   ITU-T web site.  Although a communication can point to a URL where a   non-ASCII document (e.g., Word) can be downloaded, Word attachments   to an IETF mailing list are discouraged.  It should also be   recognized that the official version of all IETF documents are in   ASCII.3.3.1 IETF to ITU-T   IETF documents (e.g., Internet Drafts) can be submitted to a Study   Group as a Contribution from ISOC.  In order to ensure that the IETF   has properly authorized this, the IETF Working Group must agree that   the specific drafts are of mutual interest, that there is a benefit   in forwarding them to the ITU-T for review, comment and potential use   and that the document status is accurately represented in the cover   letter.  Once agreed, the appropriate Area Directors would review the   Working Group request and give approval.  The contributions would   then be forwarded (with the noted approval) to the TSB for   circulation as a Study Group Contribution (see 3.2.4).3.3.2 ITU-T to IETF   A Study Group or Working Party may send texts of draft new or revised   Recommendations, clearly indicating their status, to the IETF as   contributions in the form of Internet Drafts.  Internet Drafts are   IETF temporary documents that expire six months after being   published.  The Study Group or Working Party must decide that there   is a benefit in forwarding them to the IETF for review, comment and   potential use.  Terms of reference for Rapporteur Group meetings may   authorize Rapporteur Groups to send working documents, in the form of   Internet Drafts, to the IETF.   In these cases, the document editor would be instructed to prepare   the contribution in Internet Draft format (in ASCII and optionally   postscript format as per [RFC2223]) and submit it to the Internet   Draft editor (email internet-drafts@ietf.org).  Alternatively, theFishman                      Informational                      [Page 7]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 2002   Study Group, Working Party or Rapporteur Group could agree to post   the document on a web site and merely document its existence with a   short Internet Draft that contains a summary and the document URL.   The URL can point to a Word document as long as it is publicly   available and with the understanding that it will not be eligible for   publication as an RFC in that format.   Both the Rapporteur and the Document Editor should be identified as   contacts in the contribution.  The contribution must also clearly   indicate that the Internet Draft is a working document of a   particular ITU-T Study Group.3.3.3 ITU-T & IETF   It is envisaged that the processes of 3.3.1 & 3.3.2 will often be   used simultaneously by both an IETF Working Group and an ITU-T Study   Group to collaborate on a topic of mutual interest.   It is also envisaged that the outcome of the collaboration will be   the documentation in full by one body and its referencing by the   other (seesection 3.4 for details).  That is, common or joint text   is discouraged because of the current differences in procedures for   document approval and revision.  Where complementary work is being   undertaken in both organizations that will result in Recommendations   or RFCs, due allowance should be given to the differing perspectives,   working methods, and procedures of the two organizations.  That is,   each organization should understand the other organization's   procedures and strive to respect them in the collaboration.3.4 Simple Cross Referencing   ITU-T Recommendation A.5 describes the process for including   references to documents of other organizations in ITU-T   Recommendations.  Information specific to referencing IETF RFCs is   found athttp://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/sdo/ref-a.5/isocietf.html.   IETFRFC2026, specificallysection 7.1.1, describes the process for   referencing other open standards (like ITU-T Recommendations) in IETF   RFCs.3.5  Additional Items3.5.1 Several URLs to IETF procedures are provided here for information:RFC2223  - Instructions to RFC Authors, October 1997http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2223.txtFishman                      Informational                      [Page 8]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 2002RFC2026  - The Internet Standards Process Revision 3, October 1996http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2026.txtRFC2418 - IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures, September      1998http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2418.txt   Current list and status of all IETF RFCs:ftp://ftp.ietf.org/rfc/rfc-index.txt   Current list and description of all IETF Internet Drafts:ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/1id-abstracts.txt   Current list of IETF Working Groups and their Charters: (includes      Area Directors and Chair contacts, Mailing list information, etc.)http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/wg-dir.html   RFC Editor pages about publishing RFCs:http://www.rfc-editor.org/howtopub.html   Current list of liaison statements:http://www.ietf.org/IESG/liaison.html   IETF Intellectual Property Rights Notices:http://www.ietf.org/ipr.html3.5.2 Current ITU-T information can be found on the ITU website:      (includes contacts, organization, Recommendations for purchase,      mailing list info, etc.)   ITU-T Main page:http://www.itu.int/ITU-T   List of all ITU-T Recommendations:http://www.itu.int/publibase/itu-t/   ITU-T Study Group main page for Study Group NN (where NN is the      2-digit SG number):http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/comNN/index.html   ITU-T Special Study Group on IMT-2000 and beyond:http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/ssg/index.html   Intellectual Property policies, forms and databases:http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/dbase/patent/index.htmlFishman                      Informational                      [Page 9]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 2002   ITU-T operational matters including:      Recommendation A.1 - Study Group work methods      Recommendation A.2 - Preparation of written contributions      Recommendation A.4 - Communication process between ITU-T and      forums and consortia      Recommendation A.5 - Include reference to documents of other      organizations in ITU-T Recs      Recommendation A.8 - Alternative Approval Process for      Recommendations:http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/rec/A   ITU T Procedures including:      Resolution 1 - Rules of Procedure for ITU-T      Resolution 2 - Study Group responsibility and mandateshttp://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/wtsa-res/index.html   Authors Guide for drafting ITU-T Recommendations:http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/guide/64657.html   Templates for contributions:http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/com2/template/w2000tem/index.html4. Security Considerations   Documents that describe cooperation procedures, like this one does,   have no direct Internet security implications.5. Non-normative references   [RFC2026] Bradner. S, " The Internet Standards Process -- Revision             3",BCP 9,RFC 2026, October 1996.   [RFC2223] Postel, J. and J. Reynolds, "Instructions to RFC Authors",RFC 2223, October 1997.   [RFC2436] Brett, R., Bradner, S. and G. Parsons, "Collaboration             between ISOC/IETF and ITU-T",RFC 2436, October 1998.6. Acknowledgements   This document is based on the text fromRFC 2436 and benefited   greatly from discussions during the November 2001 ITU-T TSAG meeting.7. Changes sinceRFC 2436   The wording has been cleaned up in a number of places, a few   additional references have been provided, and the details of the   cooperation process have been modified slightly.Fishman                      Informational                     [Page 10]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 2002   Sec 3.2.1 - Registration for IETF representatives to ITU-T meetings      is now done by IAB Chair instead of the ISOC VP for Standards.   Sec 3.2.2 - Notice of ITU-T delegates to IETF Working Group meetings      is now sent to the Working Group chairs and appropriate Area      Directors instead of the ISOC VP for Standards.   Sec 3.2.4 - Official communications from the ITU-T to the IETF now      are sent to the appropriate Working Group Chairs and Area      Directors with a copy to the email address "statements@ietf.org"      instead of to the ISOC VP for Standards.  A description of the new      IETF liaison statements web page was added.  Official approval of      messages from the IETF to the ITU-T is now indicated by having the      appropriate Working Group Chairs and Area Directors copied on the      message.   Sec 3.3 - A description of the new ITU-T common FTP area was added.   Sec 3.3.1 - The appropriate Area Directors now review documents to be      sent to the ITU-T instead of the ISOC VP for Standards.   Annex A was removed as unneeded.8. Author's addresses   Gary Fishman   Bell Laboratories   101 Crawfords Corner Road   Room 4D-605B   Holmdel, NJ 07733-3030   USA   +1 732 949 3401   EMail: garyfishman@lucent.com   Scott Bradner   Harvard University   29 Oxford St.   Cambridge MA 02138   USA   +1 617 495 3864   EMail: sob@Harvard.eduFishman                      Informational                     [Page 11]

RFC 3356        IETF and ITU-T Collaboration Guidelines      August 20029.  Full Copyright Statement   Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2002).  All Rights Reserved.   This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to   others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it   or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published   and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any   kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are   included on all such copies and derivative works.  However, this   document itself may not be modified in any way, such as by removing   the copyright notice or references to the Internet Society or other   Internet organizations, except as needed for the purpose of   developing Internet standards in which case the procedures for   copyrights defined in the Internet Standards process must be   followed, or as required to translate it into languages other than   English.   The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be   revoked by the Internet Society or its successors or assigns.   This document and the information contained herein is provided on an   "AS IS" basis and THE INTERNET SOCIETY AND THE INTERNET ENGINEERING   TASK FORCE DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING   BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION   HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF   MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.Acknowledgement   Funding for the RFC Editor function is currently provided by the   Internet Society.Fishman                      Informational                     [Page 12]

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