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Network Working Group                                        D. B. McKayRequest for Comments: 316                                 A. P. MullerayNIC: 9346                                                            IBM                                                  February 23 & 24, 1972ARPA Network Data Management Working Group   The meeting had two different phases.  The first included   presentations of applications of networks and development work in the   design to allow data sharing in a computer network, the second was a   working meeting in which was discussed what the data management   working group should do.Phase I   JOHN SENIOR, Univ. of Penn. and National Board of Medical Examiners,   Phila., PA., described the use of a network to provide access to   models that simulate medical behavior of patients.  These models are   used primarily for teaching and testing physicians.  The network   provides an interface by which varieties of terminals can connect to   and access these models.  Other data bases exist to which access   through a network may be desirable; however, these data bases have a   "polyglot" of organizations making it presently impossible to use   foreign data bases.   HECTOR MAYNEZ, National Library of Medicine, described the MEDLINE   system.  This has 1000 journals on-line to which access can be made   via a network.  This network, as the one above, provides the   interface for access by various terminals.  In this network are four   or five computers with other applications such as CAI, clinical   diagnosis, etc.   RAY BEVERIDGE, MITRE, presented the requirements for the WWMCCS   (World Wide Military Command and Control System) Network.  This   network will contain 25 nodes and have a data exchange rate of the   order of 10,000,000 characters per day.  Three type of data were   formulated - query data with response on the order of seconds, daily   exchange for updates and reports, and other data for weekly, monthly   or as required reports.   ERICA PEREZ, MITRE, discussed data management for the WWMCCS Network.   The two problems are determining the location of desired data, and   providing the proper security and reliability for vital data.  The   location of data bases will be indicated in directories which may   automatically determine which segment is applicable to a query.  The   directory will contain lists of data bases, files users and programs.McKay & Mulleray                                                [Page 1]

RFC 316              Data Management Working Group         February 1972   The directory can be centralized (all at one location), distributed   (split into pieces but where each piece resides at one location)   partially replicated (split into pieces but in which certain parts   may be replicated at different locations) and completely replicated   (the complete directory at all locations).   The data management system will have to deal with possibly different   hardware systems and even different local data managements systems.   One solution is to have a standard data management and data   description language for transmission of requests and data in the   network.   The system will have to provide capabilities for file transfer,   queries, remote batch, and for user communication via a mail box.   The security of the data is maintained by checking user id, terminal   authorization, process authorization and data authorization.   BOB BROWN, General Motors Research Lab., described the network of   computers at the General Motors Research Center.  This network at   present consists of an IBM 360/67, a 360/65, a 370/165, three 1800's   and a Sigma 5.  All of these are primarily for graphics use except   the 67 and the 165.  An example of how data passes through the   network was given.  The styling department develops a design on an   1800.  Data on this design is sent to the 67 for stress and shape   analysis and the results returned to the 1800.  After a design is   developed, it is sent to the 65-1800 combination for detailed   analysis for production.  Many of the computers are running GM's own   operating systems, and the network control consists of macros added   to these operating systems.  Interfacing is done by providing   specific conversion modules to the called when the specific   conversion is required.  The 67 will eventually be replaced by a   hierarchical multiprocessor based on the CDC Star-100.   PHIL MESSING, MITRE,  is setting up an experiment to test the   practicability of interfacing a network standard data management   language with local data management systems.  In this experiment, a   user will make a request in the network language, this request will   be transmitted to a node, and translated to the language of this   local node.  At present, three local systems have been selected to be   used - MADAM at MIT, LISTAR and Lincoln Labs., and NASIS at   NASA/Ames.   It is not expected that the common data language will be able to   handle all possible requests that may be made.  The language should   be able to handle the most common requests, otherwise, some means of   interaction may be set up in order to allow the transmission of more   information to the target system than the common language may allow,   or finally, a user can utilize the local target language.McKay & Mulleray                                                [Page 2]

RFC 316              Data Management Working Group         February 1972   At a later stage in the experiment, a user will input a query, the   local host will determine where the query is to be sent, the   transmission takes place, it is accepted by the target node,   translated to the target node's local language and processed.   ERNIE FORMAN, MITRE, is developing a special, simple data management   system specifically for the purpose of measuring and testing   organizational techniques for control, directories, and files.  The   question to be answered is whether each of these three functions   should be centralized, or distributed, how, and where.  The initial   experimental arrangement is to have the control and directory   centralized at the Rand node, and the files to be distributed at   UCSB, Rand, and BBN.  The files are each split vertically and   distributed, this organization chosen to present the more difficult   case.   DICK WATSON, SRI, described some extensions of NIC (Network   Information Center) that he would like to see, and that would involve   network data management facilities.  The first would be the ability   to process text from one text processor by another.  Second, it would   eventually be desirable to distribute the NIC journals.  A first   stage of this would be to have several NLS (Network Library System)   systems around the network, each with its own journal.  The problems   with this first stage would be in coordination of numbering and in   organization of the directory.  A second stage would be one in which   the journal might reside, in part, on other than NLS systems.   A third extension is to enable the NLS System to use the results of   some other cataloging or citation and bibliographic referencing   systems as input to the NLS catalogs.  The fourth extension would be   to enable other data management systems to generate data of more   general type and be usable by the NLS.PHASE II   The second phase of the meeting was a working meeting to try and   organize the committee and try and set up an active working interest   group.   The following names presently form the committee.  These are the   people who have shown active interest, and are engaged in related   activities:McKay & Mulleray                                                [Page 3]

RFC 316              Data Management Working Group         February 1972      Douglas B. McKay        IBM Research (Chairman)      Abhay Bhushan           MIT      Ernie Forman            MITRE      Dorothy Hopkin          University of Illinois      Phil Messing            MITRE      A.P. Mullery            IBM Research      Erika Perez             MITRE      A. Shoshani             SDC      S. Taylor               MITRE      Bob Thomas              BBN      Frank Ulmer             NBS      Dick Watson             SRI      Dick Winter             CCA   It would be very useful in follow-on meetings to have representative   from the Form Machine group.  Discussions on various uses of the Form   Machine by a Network Data Management facility are bound to come up in   later meetings.   A member of the form machine group would be an asset to the Data   Management Committee.   Discussion on network data management covered many aspects of the   problem with a general discussion on just what people want to be able   to do with a network data facility.   The following list, gleamed from the discussion, represents the   possible stages of development:   1.  Transmission Facility - the Network Data Control Facility (DCF)       is able to route requests for files to the proper node.  The       location and name must be specified.   2.  Location Catalog- The DCF now has available to it a catalog which       contains the locations of the data sets to be used in the       network.  Requests for files may be made by name only, the       location being determined by the DCF.   3.  Description Catalog - Descriptions, as well as data sets can be       transmitted in the network.  It is assumed these descriptions       exist as files at local nodes.  A target node can make use of the       description to properly convert the data set to its own format.   4.  Data Conversion Modules - Data descriptions are received by this       module of the DCF.  Based on the descriptions, conversion       programs are called or generated which will transform a file to       the form required by the target node.McKay & Mulleray                                                [Page 4]

RFC 316              Data Management Working Group         February 1972   5.  File Access Command Interface - this module is able to convert a       request for a file from a network data language to the local       language at which the file is located.   6.  Data Access - This module, an extension of the network data       language and the interface modules, allows access to pieces of       data as specified in the data language, and generates the proper       local access commands.   7.  Data Management Interface - This is the final stage, at which       general types of commands can be interfaced to local data       managements systems, providing general interaction among       different data amanagement systems at different nodes.   It was generally agreed that the ability to access all data and   different data bases is a goal which is worth achieving.  There was   discussion in what is the best way to achieve this goal, and the   actual implementation techniques that could be used to achieve this.   It was agreed that the data base interfacing problem should be   studied in more detail and several people more willing to write   reports on a representative problem when they have more results from   their work.   There was also a discussion concerning the data language and whether   it is suitable or not.  One fact should be made clear, the results of   this committee should not fail or succeed on the outcome of the data   language question.  The initial proposal recommends the Datalanguage   as de facto standard that will be adopted in the network because of   its support and availability.  The group should be able to recommend   changes when changes are shown to be necessary.   The Datalanguage discussion did point out the need for having data   set descriptions cataloged and referable by name - D. Winter, said   that he would look into this problem.   The proposal (RFC 304) for a network data facility should be read   again and discussed in more detail at our next meeting.  The proposal   says we can implement and achieve a stage 3 capability with what we   know today.  It would be a useful stepping stone to a stage 5 and   stage 6 capability.   Related to the stages of development described above the following   studies are now in progress and will help us answer pertinent   questions.   A. Bhushan is studying a stage 1 type of network operation with   extension in local catalogs to contain entries of network data sets   of interest locally, to enable automatic calls to foreign data sets.McKay & Mulleray                                                [Page 5]

RFC 316              Data Management Working Group         February 1972   E. Perez will be studying the network catalog structure in more   detail and will publish an RFC on her work.   Many questions were raised about the use of the data language as a   network standard.  There are two people that have volunteered writing   up their investigations of this important study.   Frank Ulmer will be looking at various data management systems to see   if their data structures are describable in terms of the   Datalanguage.  In addition, the NIC represents one important network   data base that could be distributed through the network.  Dick Watson   will try to describe the NLS Journal structure in terms of the   Datalanguage.   If there are any other people in the ARPA network or outside within   hearing distance of this memo who may know about any real or   potential applications of data sharing in a network, please submit an   RFC in a letter to someone associated with the Data Management   committee describing it.Appendix -- Meeting Attendees   William Benedict     USAFETAC Bldg. 159 Navy Yard Annex Wash. D.C.   Roy Beveridge        MITRE   Abhay Bhushan        MIT, Project Mac, Cambridge, Mass.   Bob Brown            General Motors Research Lab.   Elizabeth Fong       National Bureau of Standards, Wash. D.C.   Ernie Forman         MITRE   Glen Grazier         USAFETAC Bldg. 159 Navy Yard Annex Wash. D.C.   Dorothy Hopkin       U. of Ill., Adv. Comp. Bldg., Urbana, Ill.   Hector S. Maynez     National Library of Medicine   Doug B. McKay        IBM Research Center   Phil Messing         MITRE   Al Mullery           IBM Research Center   Erika Perez          MITREMcKay & Mulleray                                                [Page 6]

RFC 316              Data Management Working Group         February 1972   John Senior          Univ. of Penn. and National Board of Medical                        Examiners, Phila. PA.   Arie Shoshani        SDC, 2500 Colorado Ave., Santa Monica, Cal.   Martin Snyderman     Smithsonian Science Info. Exch., Wash. D.C.   Eric Swarthe         National Bureau of Standards, Wash. D.C.   Suzanne Taylor       MITRE   Bob Thomas           BBN   Frank Ulmer          National Bureau of Standards, Wash. D.C.   Dick Watson          SRI   Richard Winter       Computer Corporation of America        [This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry]     [into the online RFC archives by H�l�ne Morin, Viag�nie 10/99]McKay & Mulleray                                                [Page 7]

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