Judy Mikovits inPlandemic: An antivax conspiracy theorist becomes a COVID-19 grifter
Judy Mikovits is a disgraced scientist who claimed a retrovirus caused chronic fatigue syndrome, results later soundly refuted. She went antivaccine for a while but has now been reborn as a COVID-19 grifter.
Regular readers might have noticed that my output lately hasn’t been as…prolific…as in the past. You’d think that, with my spending more time at home than I have in a long time due to the restrictions put in place in Michigan to slow the spread of COVID-19 that I’d be a blogging fiend, even more so than usual, but oddly enough I’ve been less productive in that area than in the past. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s because all the topics that catch my eye are COVID-19-related and just too damned depressing. Fun topics, silly types of pseudoscience, just don’t seem worth spending much effort on. On the other hand, maybe it would help my mood and productivity to do a post every now and then on something like Bach flower remedies. This is not that day, however, because I just got the opportunity to rectify an oversight that dates back to the very beginning of this blog, my never having discussed in depth an antivaxxer named Judy Mikovits.
This opportunity comes in the form of a “trailer” to a “full length documentary” calledPlandemic, which is being previewed by the release of a “series of vignettes,” the first of which was released yesterday. (26 minutes is a hell of a vignette! How long is the completed documentary? Ten hours?) From the name, you can tell that this is going to be a conspiracyfest of a “documentary,” arguing that the current COVID-19 pandemic was somehow planned. We’ll get to that shortly. First, here’s where the oversight rectification comes in. This first segment is aboutJudy Mikovits, someone I should have written about years and years ago, but somehow have never discussed on this blog. When you hear her story, you’ll see why I was shocked to realize that Mikovits has onlybeen brieflymentioned a couple of times on this blog. Now, as is the case with a lot of cranks and antivaxxers, Mikovits is grifting on the COVID-19 conspiracy bandwagon.
Here’s thetrailer, which includes the video.
The blurb for this movie is just plain bonkers:
Humanity is imprisoned by a killer pandemic. People are being arrested for surfing in the ocean and meditating in nature. Nations are collapsing. Hungry citizens are rioting for food. The media has generated so much confusion and fear that people are begging for salvation in a syringe. Billionaire patent owners are pushing for globally mandated vaccines. Anyone who refuses to be injected with experimental poisons will be prohibited from travel, education and work. No, this is not a synopsis for a new horror movie. This is our current reality.
No, people are being arrested for overcrowding and refusing to social distance sufficiently. As yet, I haven’t seen any nations collapsing due to COVID-19, although it’s certainly possible that this could happen if an unstable nation is sufficiently stressed. As for the “billionaire patent owners,” one wonders to whom the filmmaker is referring, one does. (OK, you likely know that it’s Bill Gates, whose advocacy for public health and vaccines have made him one of the most reviled people in existence to the tinfoil hat conspiracy crowd, particularly the antivaccine contingent. Basically, to them, he’s a sweater-wearing Darth Vader, Lord Sauron, and Voldemort all rolled up into one, except that he’s working behind the scenes like Frank Underwood in the first couple of seasons ofHouse of Cards before he became President to enslave us all with vaccines and pharmaceuticals.)
The movie boldly paddles up the river of pseudoscience and deeper into tinfoil hat conspiracy territory:
In the early 1900s, America’s first Billionaire, John D. Rockefeller bought a German pharmaceutical company that would later assist Hitler to implement his eugenics-based vision by manufacturing chemicals and poisons for war. Rockefeller wanted to eliminate the competitors of Western medicine, so he submitted a report to Congress declaring that there were too many doctors and medical schools in America, and that all natural healing modalities were unscientific quackery. Rockefeller called for the standardization of medical education, whereby only his organization be allowed to grant medical school licenses in the US. And so began the practice of immune suppressive, synthetic and toxic drugs. Once people had become dependent on this new system and the addictive drugs it provided, the system switched to a paid program, creating lifelong customers for the Rockefellers. Currently, medical error is the third leading cause of death in the US. Rockefeller’s secret weapon to success was the strategy known as, “problem-reaction-solution.” Create a problem, escalate fear, then offer a pre-planned solution. Sound familiar?
Flash forward to 2020…
They named it COVID19. Our leaders of world health predicted millions would die. The National Guard was deployed. Makeshift hospitals were erected to care for a massive overflow of patients. Mass graves were dug. Terrifying news reports had people everywhere seeking shelter to avoid contact. The plan was unfolding with diabolical precision, but the masters of the Pandemic underestimated one thing… the people. Medical professionals and every-day citizens are sharing critical information online. The overlords of big tech have ordered all dissenting voices to be silenced and banned, but they are too late. The slumbering masses are awake and aware that something is not right. Quarantine has provided the missing element: time. Suddenly, our overworked citizenry has ample time to research and investigate for themselves. Once you see, you can’t unsee.
I’ll give the filmmaker credit for…imagination…for going all the way back to John D. Rockefeller as the origin of the evil plot that has now culminated a century later in the COVID-19 pandemic. At this point, as an aside, I can’t resist mentioning that medical error isnot the third leading cause of death.Not even close. That’s a myth that just won’t die. (It’s my duty to point that out any time someone parrots that idiocy.)
I do love that last paragraph, though. It is exactly why people are prone to conspiracy theories. A good conspiracy theory turns the believer into a hero, a warrior with secret knowledge that none of the other ignorant “sheeple” know, against powerful forces arrayed against him. A good conspiracy theory almost always has a part at the end in which the “people” (in this case, the people believing the conspiracy theory) “wake up” and see what is being “suppressed” by the powerful forces seeking to keep them ignorant. Conspiracy theories like this both make the believer feel special and brave for having secret knowledge and fighting to make it public, but also provide an explanation for bad things happening in the world. Yes, the conspiracy theory inPlandemic is utterly ridiculous to those of us who know science, medicine, and history, but most people don’t know the relevant science, medicine, and history. To them, it sounds plausible.
Judy Mikovits as portrayed by Mikki Willis
We now get to Judy Mikovits, who is portrayed in the clip above as just the sort of brave maverick scientist and truth teller that every good conspiracy theory needs, a woman with hidden knowledge who’s fighting dark powerful forces seeking to “silence her.” The sad thing is, at one time she was a decent scientist, unlike some other legitimate scientists turned antivaccine cranks, likeChristopher Shaw,Christopher Exley,Jeffrey Lyons-Weiler, andAndrew Wakefield, who were almost certainly never very good scientists even before they turned into cranks.
Before I delve into the clip and Judy Mikovits’ story, I had to look into the filmmaker. Oddly enough, I didn’t see his name, Mikki Willis, on thePlandemic website, although a bunch of YouTube videos showed up at the end of the trailer featuring him. A quick Google search revealed that Willis is a filmmaker who founded Elevate, a film company that supposedly does “transformative media.” (Conspiracy theory movies are transformative, albeit not in a good way, I guess. Just look atVAXXED. I’m getting a distinctlyDel Bigtree vibe.) Willis is alsograndiose:
September 11th, 2001 marked a turning point in Mikki Willis’ life and career. Having been inside the twin towers just hours before they fell, he helped to organize a group of civilians who remained at Ground Zero for 3 days to aid in the search and rescue efforts. It was atop the rubble of the World Trade Center that the vision for the Elevate was born.
Hmmm. I wonder if this is where Willis’ penchant for conspiracy theories was born. A perusal of hisfilmography on IMDb reveals a definite penchant for woo, though, with a film calledThe Rub of Attraction about The Secret,Ten Seconds to Midnight (which appears to be about the end of the world in 2012 foretold by the Mayan calendar), andThe Shadow Effect, featuring Deepak Chopra, Marianne Williamson, James Van Praugh, and Mark Victor Hansen.
Back to the trailer.
Right from the very beginning, Mikovits is introduced as a great scientist (“one of the most accomplished scientists of her generation”) who was demonized and exiled from the world of science by big pharma and the dogmatic gatekeepers of science after having reported something that “they” didn’t want you to know about. (A “blockbuster article in the journalScience” that supposedly found that the “common use of animal and fetal tissue were unleashing devastating plagues of chronic diseases.” I’ll get into the details a bit in a moment.) It’s a nauseatingly familiar exaggerated narrative, complete with ominous music and an oh-so-serious voiceover, as Mikovits is shown walking and talking with Willis. The voiceover intones, “For exposing their deadly secrets, the minions of big pharma waged war on Dr. Mikovits, destroying her name, career, and personal life.” (Seriously, that was so over-the-top that I actually laughed when I heard it, and I was only less than a minute into the video.)
The voiceover continues:
Now, as the fate of nations hangs in the balance, Dr. Mikovits is naming names and in the plague of corruption that places all human life in danger.
The reality is, as you will see, quite different.
Dr. Judy Mikovits’ pre-conspiracy career
First, let’s look at Dr. Mikovits’ pre-crank scientific career. Let’s just say that her background has been…embellished.Wikipedia notes that in her early career, after having been awarded a Bachelor of Science degree in Chemistry with a specialization in biology at the University of Virginia in 1980, Mikovits went to the National Cancer Institute in 1980, where she worked as a researcher in the laboratory of Francis “Frank” Ruscetti, developing purification methods for interferon-alpha. (For those of you who disingenuously object to the use of Wikipedia for anything, note that this is only a starting point, and I examined many of the primary sources linked to in the article and used them whenever possible.)
Mikovits also briefly worked at Upjohn Pharmaceuticals in Kalamazoo, MI to develop production methods to ensure biological materials manufactured using human blood products were free of contamination from HIV-1. Given that she only had a Bachelor degree, that tells me she worked as a technician in Dr. Ruscetti’s laboratory. She did, however, ultimately get a PhD in a joint program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at George Washington University in 1992, with her PhD thesis being entitledNegative Regulation of HIV Expression in Monocytes. I note that Mikovits and her admirers often claim that her doctoral thesis “changed the treatment of HIV-AIDS” but have struggled to find evidence that this was so or that her thesis was such a “game changer.” Quite simply, she worked in Dr. Ruscetti’s laboratory, did some good work, but was never a “brilliant” scientist, much less “”one of the most accomplished scientists of her generation.” She has 34 publications in PubMed, for which she’s first author only on eight and corresponding author on only four, only one of them from her time at the NIH.
Thisarchived entry in the Wayback Machine from 1998 describes her thusly:
Dr. Mikovits obtained her Ph.D. in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology from George Washington University. Her doctoral research focused on HIV-1 latency under the direction of Francis Ruscetti. Dr. Mikovits performed postdoctoral work on the molecular genetics of HTLV-1 under David Derse at the National Cancer Institute-FCRDC.
The mechanisms by which human retroviruses alter the function of the immune system and other host responses resulting in pathogenesis are not well understood. The current focus of our studies is to define viral and cellular factors involved in pathogenesis. Specifically, we have examined viral and cellular factors involved in regulating HIV infectivity and expression, cell death and mechanisms of immune dysfunction. In this regard, we and others have shown that HIV-1 expression in monocytes and helper T lymphocytes can be silenced and that this latency can be overcome by both immune activation and hypomethylation. Studies of SIV and HIV infection in the lymph nodes indicate that the capacity of the host to control viral load is predictive of disease progression. The importance of latent reservoirs is underscored by recent studies showing patients in which plasma virus is reduced to undetectable levels following highly active triple drug antiretroviral therapy, however soon after cessation of therapy high viral titers are again detected, suggesting long lived reservoirs of latent virus exist. Therefore, we have focused our efforts on examining infectivity of HIV-1 and HTLV-1 and defining cytokines and other cellular mechanisms involved in maintaining a balance between human retroviral expression and latency.
Those of you who know what all that means can see that she did what looks like some good work. Those of you who know how science works will also know that that, as of 1998, Mikovits had never become independent. She was not a principal investigator. she was doing work in a principal investigator’s lab supervised by that PI. As far as I can tell, she was never an independent researcher at the NIH. In fact, she left in 2001 to get married and take a job at a biotech startup, EpiGenX Pharmaceuticals, working on developing anticancer drugs.
The descent into conspiracy mongering begins
There’s aNew York Times article from 2009 that picks up the story of Judy Mikovits by describing the findings that Mikovits published. At the time, she was the research director for the Whittemore-Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease, a nonprofit in Reno, NV founded recently by the parents of a young woman who has the syndrome, Andrea Whittemore-Goad, in 2006. It’s interesting to note how Mikovits was recruited by Harvey and Annette Whittemore to become the director of their institute:
She and her husband had the means, the knowledge and the connections. They are real estate developers and part owners of a gas company and an energy drink, and they hold interests in other businesses. Mr. Whittemore is also a lawyer and a lobbyist. Starting in the fall of 2004, they put $5 million of their own money into setting up an institute at the University of Nevada’s medical school. They also persuaded the governor and State Legislature to commit $10 million for a new building that would house the institute’s researchers and a clinic, as well as scientists from the university and the Nevada Cancer Institute. The research began in 2006, and a clinic for patients is scheduled to open in about a year.
Rather than just doling out money to far-flung researchers, the Whittemores wanted to employ their own scientists who would be devoted full time to the cause. In the spring of 2006, they met Dr. Judy A. Mikovits, a virus expert who had spent 22 years working at the National Cancer Institute. She had left the institute in 2001 to get married and move to California, where she went to work for a drug development company that failed. She was tending bar at a yacht club when a patron said her constant talk about viruses reminded him of someone he knew in Nevada. That person was a friend of Annette Whittemore’s. Dr. Mikovits soon found herself at a conference on chronic fatigue syndrome.
I find it rather…interesting…that the Whittemores recruited a scientist who hadn’t worked in the field for five years and who wasworking on cancer therapies at a small drug development firm and tending bar at the time to direct an institute into which they were pouring millions of dollars. This is particularly true to me given that chronic fatigue syndrome is a condition whose cause has long eluded scientists to the point where some question whether it’s a real diagnosis for a single syndrome. To be successful in cracking a problem whose answer has eluded scientists for decades requires an excellent scientist. Picking someone like Mikovits hardly seemed like a good recipe for success! Of course, that is the problem with private institutes run by wealthy philanthropists. If the philanthropists are fixated on one idea, they’ll hire people and fund research looking for evidence to support that idea. Mikovits had one tool, a hammer (in this case, her study of viruses for two decades), and so every problem (in this case chronic fatigue syndrome) was a nail. Reading between the lines, I get the feeling that the Whittemores were taken with the idea that CFS was caused by a virus, leading to the hiring of Mikovits.
In any event, after meeting Dr. Daniel L. Peterson, who described how some of his chronic fatigue syndrome patients developed a rare form of lymphoma, an observation that led Mikovits to conclude that it must be a retrovirus causing CFS. The result:
Dr. Mikovits began connecting the dots almost immediately. She knew that some patients with chronic fatigue syndrome, and some men with prostate cancer, had a certain enzyme deficiency. And she also knew that tissue samples from men with prostate cancer had been found to harbor a retrovirus called XMRV, for xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus. She began working part time with the institute, and by the fall of 2006, the Whittemores had hired her as research director. One of her first projects was to look for XMRV in blood samples from people with chronic fatigue syndrome and from healthy control subjects.
Many of the samples from syndrome patients 68 of 101, or 67 percent were infected, she and her colleagues reported in Science. Only 3.7 percent of the healthy controls carried the virus. XMRV, the scientists suggested, may cause or at least contribute to chronic fatigue syndrome. Further tests found the virus in 90 of the 101, Dr. Mikovits said.
XMRV is a mouse retrovirus, but “xenotropic” is applied because it can replicate in the cells of other animals. A spoiler alert right here is in order. Mikovits’ paper was ultimately retracted two years later, but at the time it was published inScience and breathlessly reported in articles in the mainstream media like the NYT article I’ve been quoting from andthis other article.
How did the retraction occur? First, there were a number of criticisms of Mikovits’ methods, which were poorly described, andthree independent studies trying to replicate her results failed to find evidence of XMRV in either healthy controls or CFS patients. Anine-center study was begun to try to confirm the preliminary results of Mikovits’ study. Coded replicate samples of blood from 15 subjects previously reported to be XMRV–positive (14 with CFS) and from 15 healthy donors previously determined to be negative for the viruses were distributed in a blinded fashion to nine laboratories, which performed assays designed to detect XMRV nucleic acid, virus replication, and antibody. The results were disappointing. Only two labs reported evidence of the virus, but replicate sample results disagreed and there was no difference in detection between CFS subjects and negative controls without CFS. Science published andeditorial expression of concern, noting:
Since then, at least 10 studies conducted by other investigators and published elsewhere have reported a failure to detect XMRV in independent populations of CFS patients. In this issue, we are publishing two Reports that strongly support the growing view that the association between XMRV and CFS described by Lombardi et al. likely reflects contamination of laboratories and research reagents with the virus. In one Report, “Recombinant origin of the retrovirus XMRV” (2), T. Paprotka et al. trace the ancestry of XMRV and provide evidence that the virus originated when two mouse leukemia viruses underwent recombination during experimental passage of a human prostate tumor xenograft in mice in the 1990s. A combination of sequencing, phylogenetic, and probability analyses lead Paprotka et al. to conclude that laboratory contamination with XMRV produced by a cell line (22Rv1) derived from these early xenograft experiments is the most likely explanation for detection of the virus in patient samples. In the other Report, “No evidence of murine-like gammaretroviruses in CFS patients previously identified as XMRV-infected” (3), K. Knox et al. examined blood samples from 61 CFS patients from the same medical practice that had provided patient samples to Lombardi et al. Comprehensive assays by Knox et al. for viral nucleic acids, infectious virus, and virus-specific antibodies revealed no evidence of XMRV in any of the samples.
In other words, XMRV is almost certainly the result of a recombination event in the 1990s in different prostate cancer cell lines grown in immunodeficient mice. Mikovits almost certainly based her conclusion on her detection of a laboratory contaminant.
There’s more, though. Here’s an excerpt from the retraction notice:
In addition, there is evidence of poor quality control in a number of specific experiments in the Report. Figure 1, table S1, and fig. S2 have been retracted by the authors (3). In response to concerns expressed about Fig. 2C [summarized in (4)], the authors acknowledged to Science that they omitted important information from the legend of this figure panel. Specifically, they failed to indicate that the CFS patient–derived peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) shown in Fig. 2C had been treated with azacytidine as well as phytohemagglutinin and interleukin-2. This was in contrast to the CFS samples shown in Figs. 2A and 2B, which had not been treated with azacytidine.
Why is this important? Azacytidine is a chemical thatactivates retroviruses, which means that the CFS-derived cells were treated with a chemical to bring out their retroviruses while the control cells were not. That’s scientific fraud, as far as I’m concerned.
That’s the end of the story from a scientific standpoint, but only the beginning of the story of the conspiracy theory. I also note that the antivaccine movement jumped on the XMRV story when antivax propagandist (at the time) David Kirby linked XMRV to autism in an evidence-free speculative article published shortly after Mikovits’ paper in 2009,Is Autism Associated with a Viral Infection? (now deleted but preserved, thanks to the almighty Wayback Machine). In it, Mikovits speculated:
“On that note, if I might speculate a little bit,” she said, “This might even explain why vaccines would lead to autism in some children, because these viruses live and divide and grow in lymphocytes — the immune response cells, the B and the T cells. So when you give a vaccine, you send your B and T cells in your immune system into overdrive. That’s its job. Well, if you are harboring one virus, and you replicate it a whole bunch, you’ve now broken the balance between the immune response and the virus. So you have had the underlying virus, and then amplified it with that vaccine, and then set off the disease, such that your immune system could no longer control other infections, and created an immune deficiency.”
So there you have it – a possible explanation of regressive autism in a significant number of cases associated with immune system deregulation triggered by vaccination.
So Mikovits was antivaccine even back then.
A conspiracy theory is born
Early on in her interview forPlandemic, Mikovits describes being arrested and portrays it as a false arrest with no warrant and no search warrant for her house (there were warrants), carried out for no reason other than to silence her. Naturally, Willis leads with that part of the story, and, given the background I’ve related, you’re probably asking: What the heck is that all about? Unsurprisingly, after Mikovits’Science paper was retracted, she was fired, although, oddly enough, for matter unrelated to her retracted paper. Thenthis happened:
A little more than 1 month after firing Mikovits, the Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease (WPI) on 4 November filed suit against its former research director. According to WPI, after Mikovits was terminated on 29 September, she wrongfully removed laboratory notebooks and kept other proprietary information on her laptop and in flash drives and in a personal e-mail account. WPI, a nonprofit organization that’s based on the campus of the University of Nevada, Reno, also won a temporary restraining order that forbids Mikovits from “destroying, deleting, or altering” any of the related files or data.
Mikovits attorney, Lois Hart, said her client cannot speak to the media about the case, but she strongly denies any wrongdoing. In an e-mail to ScienceInsider, Hart stressed that “Dr. Mikovits’ integrity goes to the bone.”
Basically, the Whittemore-Peterson Institute reported that a number of Mikovits’ lab notebooks were found to be missing after she had been terminated, pointing out that she had the only key to the locked desk in which they were stored. (Her contract stipulated that lab notebooks and data had to remain with the institute if she ever left her job, a near-universal clause in such employment contracts with corporations and nonprofits doing research.) Mikovits’s attorney countered that several people had keys to her office and laboratory, although, conspicuously, I never saw any mention of anyone else having a key to the desk. A few days later,Mikovits was arrested for theft. Ultimately, criminal charges weredismissed. Complicating matter was the fact that the judge initially overseeing the civil case had received campaign donations from WPI co-founder Harvey Whittemore, who himself has been criminally charged with making illegal campaign contributions to a federal official.
Conveniently, Willis and Mikovitsleave out some key information. For instance, a research assistant named Max Pfost, who was also rooming in Mikovits’ home, provided a sworn affidavit detailing his complicity in stealing the notebooks and delivering them to Dr. Mikovits. This affidavit was the basis for thewarrants to search her home and arrest her. It’sworth reading in full. Basically, he stated that Mikovits instructed him to retrieve the notebooks and drives and that he did. Another researcher named Amanda McKenzie also provided a sworn affidavit in which she attests that Mikovits asked her to remove laboratory samples and other materials and deliver them to one of her co-authors but that she declined.
Also, contrary to Mikovits’ claim inPlandemic that she was arrested without warrant, jailed without charges, there werewarrants issued by the University of Nevada at Reno Police Department on November 17, 2011. Dr. Mikovits was arrested at her home on November 18, 2011 and charged with two felonies: (1) possession of stolen property and (2) unlawful taking of computer data, equipment, supplies, or other computer related property. She was held without bail for 5 days while awaiting arraignment and a hearing on extradition to Nevada on felony charges after the laboratory notebooks, computer, and other items belonging to WPI were recovered from her home following the search. Criminal charges were later dismissed without prejudice pending the outcome of the civil trial against Dr. Mikovits for losses related to the stolen notebooks.
That’s a very different story than the one told inPlandemic! Even so, thus was born a conspiracy theory, one that Mikovits has been milking for all it’s worth since at least 2011. Now, with the COVID-19 pandemic in full swing, Mikovits has found anew (and lucrative) road to prominence, after having posted avideo three weeks ago saying that we don’t need a coronavirus vaccine, after having gotten involved in the “Fire Fauci campaign” after claiming that Dr. Fauci had sabotaged her XMRV research:
Soon, Dr Fauci, everyone will know who you "really are".pic.twitter.com/GyD0j7UbWW
— Judy A. Mikovits PhD (@DrJudyAMikovits)April 19, 2020
Also:
In the same video, Mikovits rejected the notion of wearing a mask, since, she claimed, the coronavirus is actually secretly caused by a bad strain of flu shot that was circulating between 2013 and 2015. Masks will help “activate” the virus and reinfect a mask-wearer over and over, she claimed.
“Wearing a mask will kill more people than—this virus is not coughed through the air from healthy people, who are almost certainly immune, as they’ve almost certainly been infected over the last four or five years,” Mikovits said.
(NOTE ADDED 5/8/2020: Ironically, in a video full of COVID-19 misinformation, it was the ridiculous claim that wearing a mask will kill more people than the virus thatgot thePlandemic video yanked from YouTube and Facebook.)
Amusingly, that bit about the flu vaccine was so nonsensical that even David Kirby, an antivaccine propagandist whose mention is areal blast from the past on this blog, saw through it and posted this on Facebook:
With this background, Mikovits’ claims in thePlandemic video start to make more sense as a persecution complex and misinformation based on conspiracy theories. Also, as she’s selling her new book,Plague of Corruption: Restoring Faith in the Promise of Science, and this video is a perfect advertisement for it. You can tell just how far into tinfoil hat territory this book must plunge by the fact that she co-wrote it withKent Heckenlively, a man known forWalter Mitty-like fantasies ofheroic action against evil purveyors of vaccines, and that the book’s foreword was written by antivaccine leaderRobert F. Kennedy, Jr., who has beenpromoting the book and herconspiracy theory about Anthony Fauci on his Children’s Health Defense website.
She fits right in, too. After Willis notes that “apparently their attempt to silence you has failed” and asks how she can have the “confidence” to “name names” and “call out these dark forces” without fearing for her life, her response tells me how far down the rabbit hole she’s gone:
Because if we don’t stop this now, we can not only forget our republic and our freedom, but we can forget humanity because we’ll be killed by this agenda.
I laughed out loud again.
At this point, Mikovits weaves a conspiracy theory in which Dr. Fauci ordered a coverup of her results, claiming that “everyone was paid off” with “millions of dollars of funding” from Anthony Fauci through the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID). Her story is that Dr. Fauci called Dr. Ruscetti’s laboratory when he was out of the country and demanded that she give him a copy of the paper Dr. Ruscetti had just submitted documenting the detection of HIV in the saliva and blood of AIDS patients from Luc Montagnier’s group in France. It was a confirmatory study. She then claimed that Fauci screamed at her to give him the paper. Why would Fauci do that? She claims that Fauci had been working with Robert Gallo and that he held up the publication of Ruscetti’s paper for several months to allow Robert Gallo to publish his own paper.
As you might imagine, the story soundsvery fishy. First of all, there were telephones back then. Making a trans-Atlantic phone call was a possibility! Yes, international calls were expensive in the 1980s, but people made them, especially for the government and corporations. There’s no reason why Fauci couldn’t have called Ruscetti, particularly given Mikovits claim that it was several weeks before he came back from overseas, to have Dr. Fauci browbeat him into giving it to him. There was even mail. So, why did Fauci supposedly do this, colluding with Robert Gallo and Robert Redfield, who’s now the Director of the CDC? Money and patents, of course! And, of course, Mikovits brings in Bill Gates, with his advocacy of vaccines, because antivax grifters gonna grift.
Mikovits’ story doesn’t make sense from a timeline perspective, either. While it is true that Robert Gallo falsely took credit for discovering the AIDS virus in 1984, when the virus hadactually been discovered at the Pasteur Institute in 1983, and it was those samples Gallo had been testing. It’s also true that Gallo worked with Mikovits’ boss Dr. Ruscetti to make somemajor discoveries in the field of retroviruses in the 1980, the same year that Mikovits graduated from college and took a job at the National Cancer Institute in Frank Ruscetti’s lab.
AsZachariah Wiedeman asks about Mikovits’ story:
Are we to believe that somehow, fresh out of college, sometime between 1980 and 1983 she [Mikovits] was at the forefront of groundbreaking work to isolate and confirm HIV, and that she actually discovered it, then Gallo stole the credit from her, but he also simultaneously stole the credit from the Pasteur Institute where he obtained his sample, that he didn’t actually have, because Mikovits had it. What, the what??
Also, at the time, Dr. Fauci was Chief of the Laboratory of Immunoregulation at the National Institute of Health. (He wasn’t appointed director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease until 1984.) Just from Dr. Fauci’s role at the NIH during the time period, Mikovits’ story makes no sense. It defies plausibility that Dr. Fauci would even ask a laboratory technician, fresh out of college, for her boss’ unpublished manuscript, much less that he would browbeat her and yell at her when she “bravely” refused. It’s highly unlikely that Mikovits even had access to the manuscript!
Towards the middle of the video, Willis asks Mikovits if she’s antivaccine, which, of course, she denies, because of course she does. (Nearly all antivaxxers deny that they’re antivax.) After characterizing vaccines as an “immune therapy,” she then goes on to buying into the conspiracy that SARS-CoV-2 (the coronavirus that causes COVID-19) was “manipulated and studied” in a laboratory and then escaped. She then makes the utterly nonsensical claim that if SARS-CoV-2 had evolved naturally it would have taken 800 years. (Seriously, she’s a virologist?) Her difference is that she claims that the virus must have been released somehow between Fort Detrick and the Wuhan laboratory. She even claimed that in 1999 she worked at Fort Detrick in order to “teach Ebola how to infect human cells,” further claiming that Ebola couldn’t infect human cells until it had been “taught” how to do it. Apparently Ebola came from a lab too. (Never mind that Ebola wasfirst reported in humans in 1976.)
Indeed, the amount of nonsense, misinformation, disinformation, and conspiracy mongering in Mikovits’ response to questions is truly epic. She likens COVID-19 infection to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), which is even more nonsensical. She agrees with the conspiracy theory that doctors are being pushed to misclassify deaths due to other causes as due to COVID-19. Willis even included a clip of Dr. Dan Erickson making that claim. You might recall that he and Dr. Artin Massihi made amisinformation-laden video claiming that COVID-19 prevalence was so much higher than estimated and using that estimate to claim that COVID-19 is actually five times less lethal than seasonal flu, a claim that shows up later inPlandemic as well. I emphasize that, in reality, the case and death count from COVID-19 isgrossly underestimated. Why the pressure? Because government reimbursement is higher for a diagnosis of COVID-19, apparently.
Basically, all the common conspiracy theories about COVID-19 make an appearance, including the claim that it was the flu vaccine that got it started, but with a spin. Mikovits claims that Italy was hit so hard because the virus for the flu vaccine it used was grown in dog cells and dog cells have a lot of coronavirus, the claim that David Kirby mocked in the Facebook post I quoted above. She also cites the bogus claim that the flu vaccine increases your chance of getting COVID-19 by 36%.It doesn’t. Unsurprisingly, hydroxychloroquine makes an appearance, too, because of course it does. Like so manyhydroxychloroquine conspiracy theorists do, Willis and Mikovits portray the drug as a powerful treatment for COVID-19 that “they” don’t want you to know about, even though hydroxychloroquineprobably doesn’t work. Mikovits is all-in with conspiracy theories about it, though.
Mark and Chris Hoofnagle coined a term “crank magnetism,” in which a person who believes in one form of pseudoscience or one conspiracy theory will tend to believe in multiple pseudoscientific beliefs and conspiracy theories. When, late in the video, Mikovits asks why we’re closing beaches because there are “healing microbes in the sand,” I had to stop. There’s just so much idiocy I can tolerate. I’ll give Mikovits credit, though. She some how instinctively knew just how to make her story go viral by latching on to the right wing campaign to smear Dr. Fauci. As a result, her book iscurrently #1 on Amazon.
Sadly, as Judy Mikovits demonstrates, the COVID-19 pandemic is drawing cranks and conspiracy theorists like it moths to a light. Chief among them are antivax grifters like Judy Mikovits. She’s so wrong she’s not even wrong, and she’s gone full conspiracy theorist,taking advantage of the COVID-19 pandemic to be reborn as a COVID-19 crank, grifting with her book and a “doctor education” company. Sadly, she’s not alone.
NOTE: This post was updated and revised on May 8, 2020. Also, a followup post discussing what Mikki Willis left out of Plandemic about Judy Mikovits’ even wilder conspiracy theories ishere, for your edification.
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You’re full of shit!
One notes that you haven’t pointed out a single error in fact, science, or logic in my post.?
One must note that you are obviously highly biased having worked in Big Pharma funded facilities for most of your medical career. Additionally, as noted in your Wikipedia bio, you are and have been an “outspoken skeptic, and a critic of alternative medicine and the anti-vaccination movement.”
Additionally, you are the managing editor of the website “Science-Based Medicine” which also is a “source of information about medical controversies and alternative medicine.”https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ whose latest article attempts to make the case that the MMR vaccine with toxic adjuvants like aluminum and mediums like diploid human tissue (aborted baby parts medium used to culture the active virus used in the vaccine).
Basically, you are an anti-alternative medical professor who has devoted his career to carrying water for the pharmaceutical and modern medical complex which siphons off over $3 Trillion annually in the U.S. alone from the American public with pretty pathetic results when all is said and done. (A war on cancer that is still going with the primitive big three offerings – carcinogenic chemotherapy (so toxic a spill requires a hazmat suit to clean up), carcinogenic radiation therapy and the surgical removal of localized cancer (a symptom-based approach which often results in the spread because the cause has not been addressed, only the symptom).
Additionally, your criticisms are simply repeats of the industry attacks on Dr. Mikovits after she refused to back off of her finding that the XMRV retrovirus was associated with ME/CFS more commonly known as chronic fatigue syndrome through pulverized mouse brains used to cultivate vaccines such as the mercury-preserved (thimerosal)polio vaccine where CFS first arose in the 1930’s at LA County General Hospital.
Of course, the industry is going to drum up attacks on Dr. Mikovits when she brings up any potentially critical information about vaccines because they potentially threaten a cash cow that feeds them and indirectly yourself as well.
After all, it took you a very short time to come out with an article attacking Dr. Mikovits, an expected response from someone who attacks any opinion, alternative, or information contrary to the approved medical/pharmaceutical complex approved narrative.
People are seeing through the modern medical mirage in increasing numbers and obviously biased blogs like yours are helping to further that awareness. Thank you for your kind contributions. Keep up the good work.
Here is an error. at least according to John Hopkins.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us
what is your opinion about this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8o_hRJrpCg&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0XP-I0fqRIysQH1RZuKsxvzjyZ1ecXrfWUITQxna620N10Hioo5G9qVHo
@ FuckYourFeelings
“Keep sucking that big pharma dick.”
I think that’s a moment for a bit of french poetry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1_OPtNyCqc
Long past are the time where you could take a naïve young girl and make her sing a song about oral sex whose metaphor the young singer does not fully grasp… One of my favourites.
I’ll keep stroking. Do not worry…
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31607599/ She lied about the results of this project concerning respiratory virus interference among Dept. of Defence personnel. The conclusion was that the flu vaccine did not cause it. She said they determined it did. Just that would cause me not to believe anything else she says.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31607599/ She lied about the results of this project concerning respiratory virus interference among Dept. of Defence personnel. The conclusion was that the flu vaccine did not cause it. She said they determined it did. Just that would cause me not to believe anything else she says.
Oh, the Johns Hopkins claim of modern medicine as the 3rd leading cause of death is now “bullshit” according to the highly cultured doctor reverting to guttersnipe terms.
I guess when Johns Hopkins puts out the statistics about COVID mortality that is not “bullshit”, However, when they own up to the fact that you ivory towered doctors are killing patients with your toxic mix of synthetic chemicals that cause massive amounts of side effects, easily validated by browsing through any 6″ or so thick PDR (Physicians Desk Reference), they are wrong.
Cherry picking are we? How convenient.
As far as the testing goes. That too is b.s. it seems.
The widespread diagnostic test for the virus in a patient, the PCR, is riddled with irreparable flaws. It spits out false-positives, because the test reacts to the presence of irrelevant germs that have nothing to do with a purported COVID.
Most importantly the test has never been vetted, in the real world, for its claimed ability to detect whether a patient is ill or is going to become ill.
According to the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panelhttps://bit.ly/2L8NV9I
“Positive results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.
Negative results do not preclude 2019-nCoV infection and should not be used as the sole basis for treatment or other patient management decisions.”
Translation: A positive test doesn’t guarantee that the COVID virus is causing infection at all. Then again, maybe the COVID virus is not be in the patient’s body either.
From the World Health Organization (WHO): “Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) technical guidance: Laboratory testing for 2019-nCoV in humans”https://bit.ly/3cidWiS
“Several assays that detect the 2019-nCoV have been and are currently under development, both in-house and commercially. Some assays may detect only the novel virus [COVID] and some may also detect other strains (e.g. SARS-CoV) that are genetically similar.”
Translation: Some PCR tests register positive for types of coronavirus that have nothing to do with COVID—including plain old coronas that cause nothing more than a cold.
As far as the “assays that detect the 2019-nCOV that are currently under development. Yeah, just a few.
For a test that is supposed to be so definitive and accurate, there sure are a great many firms in development of testing for the diagnosis of COVID-19
Actually, 633 of them the diagnostic pipeline at the time of this post as a matter of fact.https://bit.ly/3clw4Za
If the testing on this is so definitive, why are 633 companies still developing testing for it?
Possibly because they still have not effectively isolated the virus and still don’t know what exactly it is that they are looking for.
Or could it be that it is extremely difficult to detect this SARS-CoV-2 virus because it is easily defeated by the immune system? (Note: SARS-CoV-2 virus. Hmmm…thought this was something so novel we have not seen it before? When then is it so similar to the SARS virus that it is called SARS-CoV-2 then? That would indicate that it is similar in nature to a virus we are well aware of so similar to a known virus that it is labeled as -2.
Gee, maybe not so novel after all huh? No more novel than any other mutated SARS virus which is quite common with RNA viruses like this SARS-CoV-2 virus btw. All RNA viruses mutate regularly which is why these virus vaccines are so ineffective, their target changes so quickly.
Or possibly that it is so immensely difficult to test an individual for a specific virus when the samples are always contaminated with all kinds of germs including bacteria, other viral strains and other DNA/RNA bearing tissues?
But what do the manufacturers say about the COVID diagnostic test? How about this gem from Creative Diagnostics, a popular test manufacturer:
This product is intended for the detection of 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The detection result of this product is only for clinical reference, and it should not be used as the only evidence for clinical diagnosis and treatment.https://bit.ly/2KnJ4kP
In other words: Don’t use the test result alone to diagnose infection or disease.
Pretty confident about their testing huh?
Perhaps that is why the CDC includes “probable cases” in their statistical counts:
What is a COVID-19 probable case?
A probable case or death is defined by
Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; or
Meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence; or Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19.https://bit.ly/3bdziMV
Translation: You don’t even have to have “confirmatory laboratory testing performed” in order for the case to be considered a COVID-19 case.
I guess that could be helpful to the hospitals who have had their cash cows of elective surgery eliminated (80% of many hospitals incomes) and are losing money now.
They could just drop a medicare patient into the “probable COVID-19 category” and go from a standard Medicare admit of $4,600 to a COVID admit billable for $13,000 now. About a 3X billable increase.
And heck, if they can get them on a ventilator with a COVID diagnosis, the Medicare admit jumps to $39,000, over an 8-fold increase!
I guess its a conspiracy theory to imagine that hospitals losing money due to the contraction of their scheduled surgery income would begin to amazingly turn up more COVID cases and put some of these people with respiratory issues on ventilators as well.
Yeah…might not have anything to do with increasing revenues I guess since we know that ALL hospitals and doctors operate with full integrity and complete concern for ALL patients.
Uh, interested in a bridge in Brooklyn real cheap?
But hey, it’s all just b.s. right doc?
There wouldn’t be any financial (grant) reason for you to write this blog, would there?
https://www.ageofautism.com/2010/06/david-gorskis-financial-pharma-ties-what-he-didnt-tell-you.html
there IS a German company called Bauer that developed chemicals for World War II concentration camps
Like Jack Bauer? “Lunkheads,”Indeed
Harhar those crazy people that look a little further into things…
… and completely screw them up? Then again, I rather suspect the only thing you were looking into was your navel.
Your*. Dumbass.
Dude, so she’s part of a conspiracy, but you don’t believe in conspiracies? So which conspiracy should I believe? Seems that you simply believe and trust the elites and powerful. I’m suspicious of you now. You seem to lack some critical thinking skills. You are appealing to authority, consensus, etc. So many weak ass angles here. No in depth response to her claims, just saying they’re “crazy.” And then throwing around terms like “persecution complex”
Yeah, she was thrown in jail you idiot. She was literally persecuted. You think she imagine that? LMAO. You must be an idiot or something.
I have a question for anyone who found this video persuasive: ok, so you don’t believe “The Official Version”. I don’t have any real problem with that on its face: everybody should be skeptical and ask for proof. But here’s my question: why is anything that goes against “The Official Version” automatically true for that reason alone, and anyone who criticizes a video like this a “sheep” or “asleep” or else part of “The Conspiracy to Suppress the Truth”? What if the video is just bad and cringe like this one is? Why don’t you deploy the same skepticism about videos like this that you do against “The Official Version”? It’s like you barred the front door against a sheep only to leave the back door open for the wolf to enter.
Have you listened to the conspiracy theories that are floating around about coronavirus? They contradict each other, so they can’t all be true. But people seem to have no problem believing ones that contradict each other at the same time. I mean, the virus can’t both be fake or hyped to give cover for the government to steal your liberties and at the same time be a bioweapon released by a Chinese lab by Bill Gates or whatever to depopulate the world, right? Those can’t both be true. Why would you create a bioweapon that doesn’t work? But people seem to be able to believe both these things at once without theirs heads exploding. I don’t get it. How do you decide which brand of nonsense you’re going to believe?
It’s like some people are so desperate not to get fooled that they guarantee they’ll get fooled by believing every wrong thing at once, not because it’s true, but only because it contradicts “The Official Version”. Thinking like that doesn’t make you “awake”, it makes you a gullible rube.
It seems that this is about JM’s message: dangerous viruses can be (and on occasions are) distributed via vaccines.. BigPharma doesn’t like that message? so they should.. Hence, what about very well and admitted (accidental?) occurrence at vaccine manufacturer lab: ” Officials are trying to get to the bottom of how in 2009 vaccine manufacturer Baxter International Inc. made “experimental virus material” based on a human flu strain but contaminated with the H5N1 avian flu virus and then distributed it to an Austrian company. Release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses – if that indeed happened – could have resulted in dire consequences. That company, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then disseminated the supposed H3N2 virus product to subcontractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. Authorities in the four European countries are looking into the incident, and their efforts are being closely watched by the World Health Organization and the European Centre for Disease Control. If someone exposed to the mixture had been co-infected with H5N1 and H3N2, the person could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people. That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.”
You didn’t need to post the same 11-year-old excerpt twice. In any event,
dangerous viruses can be (and on occasions are) distributed via vaccines
The excerpt (full articlehere has fuck-all to with vaccines, rendering your invocation of it to another passage to the already overcrowded Incompetence Zone.
His real name, David Gorski! The doctor that makes millions off of cancer victims. He claims he is bipartisan another one of his lies. This is all just his opinion. Another Trump hater trying to debunk the lies about Covid.
Thanks, Orac, for consolidating the entire Mikovits saga in one place.
Heckenlively has been writing hyperbolically about her genius for the past several weeks at the Bolen Report. I believe that they have co-authored two books already,Plague andPlague of Corruption– such creativity for title choice!
It causes me to wonder, do any of these grifters earn reasonable amounts of money from these woo masterpieces? I mean, SRSLY, even if they get 5%, they’d need to sell a lot of books to make more than small change.
I think a lot of people came to this article in hope that their fear of something more sinister than the virus itself would be pacified. Well, you achieved in finding a well-spoken expert in the medical field to extinguish the flames of your worry and put your mind back into the semi-numb state it finds comfortable. I have a feeling though, deep down, most of you know that your initial intuition is correct, like it is concerning most situations in life. Unfortunately, for the brave and the cowardly alike, the hard truth can be very difficult to accept as it requires sacrifice, change, and a readiness to face the unknown. Perhaps we can all agree that Mikovits’ past is riddled with some strange events and decisions that cause her whsitleblowing to be approached skeptically. Does that mean that she is necessarily lying? Orac’s article spends significantly more word space attacking her credibility than is does debunking this “conspiracy theory”. He casually dismisses the $13,000 to $39,000 Medicare payout for doctors who rule cause of death by Covid-19 or use ventilators on patients who may not even need it as if it is a throwaway fact. That fact ALONE should shake the foundation of a critical thinker. Why is Medicare giving five figure bonuses to doctors who comply with these guidelines? Because if the mortality rate of the virus is high enough, people will cling to the hope of new vaccinations and big pharma will make multi-billions of dollars at the expense of human life. The reality of it is sickening, and to see cowardly “experts” such as Orac throw flowery jargon around to bedazzle and mislead those seeking the truth is a terrible deed. If money is indeed the root of all evil, just keep following the stem and you’ll end up at the truth.
He casually dismisses the $13,000 to $39,000 Medicare payout for doctors who rule cause of death by Covid-19 or use ventilators on patients who may not even need it as if it is a throwaway fact.
Um,wrong.
That fact ALONE should shake the foundation of a critical thinker.
That shaking is more likely the rocks banging together in your head.
So this is a conspiracy? She’s conspiring with others in order to make money? She’s lying. But wait, I thought you rational, sane people don’t believe in conspiracies.
I’m confused.
There is an origin to the term. The term conspiracy theory was created in 1967 by the CIA. To discourage people from challenging whatever government propaganda or narrative is put out. You can look this up all over the search engines. The term is used to dismiss or brush them off as crazy.
I did just that. The origin of the term is not what you say. For instance, the term dates back as far as the 1870s. As for the CIA document pointed to as the “smoking gun,” it only mentions the term once in passing and doesn’t bother to define it, which implies that it already had an accepted meaning in 1967. But thanks for playing.?
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/16/did-the-cia-invent-the-term-conspiracy-theory/
ORAC:
The CIA didn’t create the term “conspiracy theory” but they did weaponize it for the purposes of shutting down dissenting views regarding the JFK assassination and the Warren Commission.
Here’s CIA Document 1035-960:
https://archive.org/stream/CIADOC1035960/CIA%20DOC%201035-960_djvu.txt
Snopes? Seriously? That’s where you go to debunk anything that doesn’t fit the narrative of the establishment? Wittingly or not, you are definitely a shill for Big Pharma and the medical establishment in general. It would be fascinating to know who pays you to publish this BS.
Orac is actually to kind. Science
retraction is here :
DOI: 10.1126/science.334.6063.1636-a
“Specifically, they failed to indicate
that the CFS patient–derived
peripheral blood mononuclear cells
(PBMCs) shown in Fig. 2C had been
treated with azacytidine as well as
phytohemagglutinin and interleukin-2.
This was in contrast to the CFS
samples shown in Figs. 2A and 2B,
which had not been treated with
azacytidine.”
This means CFS patient cells were
treated with a drug that activate
retroviruses, and control group were
not.
That sounds closer to intentional dishonesty than the sloppiness contamination would suggest.
“Wearing a mask will kill more people than—this virus is not coughed through the air from healthy people, who are almost certainly immune,
Pardon me?
We found that when the person said “stay healthy,” numerous droplets ranging from 20 to 500 μm were generated. These droplets produced flashes as they passed through the light sheet
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800
And, by using the new modeling that takes into account turbulence (think smoke ring puffs and such) instead of the old 1933 model that treated such droplets as falling in a ballistic fashion, itis essentially airborne.
(p.s. Is it just me or is the font now really this teensy weensy?)
Hey, Tim, just for future reference, it would be much more powerful when calling someone a “fucktarded moran” when correcting their English to actually spell moron correctly.
it would be much more powerful when calling someone a “fucktarded moran” when correcting their English to actually spell moron correctly
I take it that you are unfamiliar withthis guy
Lol, but; Did she not demand to see the manager? It is not a strick requirement of the definition — it has laxed up even more, lately.
I’d lean toward leaving that testimonial here:
https://old.reddit.com/r/IDontWorkHereLady/
She came back, read him the Riot Act, and told him that he should be ashamed of himself.
Ohh, very much so whether she made the standard demand then and there or not!
https://old.reddit.com/r/EntitledKarens/
it does not really fit in with r/FuckYouKaren
San Francisco Supervisor Shamann Walton on Tuesday introduced an ordinance called The Caution Against Racially Exploitative Non-Emergencies, or CAREN, Act, which would amend the city’s police code and allow anyone harmed by such calls to sue the callers.
There is a little bit of a sad side. All throught history there have been non-karen Karens which were kind, loving, and totally hot.
I grew up with a slightly older girl named Karen — lived across the street. My baby sitter, my tickle torturer, took us trick’or’treating all over the city (one guy said “I think I’ll take the treat” and stole like 25 pounds of candy), and my ride to highschool– Once confided that a nose hair had grown all the way across and made an abscess. First time I ever heard the word diabetes or that it could cause blindness.
And a very very good friend of mine’s mother was named Karen. She used to cut my hair for free. MILF — liked Garry Shandling (My voice is not being electronically altered. Lovemaking with {I forget the name} blew out one of my vocal cords). And then there was the {redacted Karen}, and {redacted Karen}, and {redacted Karen with a husband named Daran}.
But, hey. 2 outta 5 good Karens ain’t bad.
https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/22/karen-baby-name-dying-breed-out-not-popular-meme-slang/
Sadly, it may be 150 years before any mom (save karens) lovingly names her daughter Karen.
I’m seeing a whole “school of ‘thought'” that masks are dangerous because of …carbon dioxide. Yep. These cloth masks capture too much CO2 and then you rebreathe all that dangerous gas. Seems like you’d have health workers falling out all over the place if that were true. People were wearing masks all day way before COVID and no one seemed to care back then.
As if this grifter isn’t bad enough, now we have DOCTORS IN BLACK PlanDemic, global plan to take control of our lives, liberty, health & freedom to deal with.
“The overlords of big tech have ordered all dissenting voices to be silenced and banned, but they are too late.”
Oh, those sloppy, inefficient overlords! I’ve always wondered how it is that gigantic conspiracies launched by all-powerful government agencies, pharmaceutical interests and their thousands (millions?) of captive scientists, funded by Bill Gates’ billions and other unlimited sources of cash, can be so easily exposed by a relative handful of truth-seeking amateurs on the Internet.
What also confuses me about Mikovits’ XMRV rants is why Big Pharma would be so against her. If XMRV and other retroviruses cause chronic fatigue syndrome and a zillion other chronic illnesses, Big Pharma could generate enormous revenue by marketing antiretroviral drugs to treat them. Something does not compute.
Mikovits is venturing into nuclear stupidity about Fauci and Covid-19 just as her latest book has been released. Think she’s hoping the publicity helps book sales?*
*Any day now, I expect Amazon to list “Plague of Corruption” as its top-selling title in immunology. Wait: as of a few minutes ago Amazon was listing the book as its #2 seller! (other books in the top 5 are “The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes” and “My First Learn-To Write Notebook”, which leads me to think that either Amazon’s algorithms are flawed, or authors are learning how to game the system).
That you cast dispersions on the filmmaker outs your agenda — not good enough to savage Mikovits, you must try to impune the character of Mikki — very snarky of you.
You state: You might recall that he and Dr. Artin Massihi made a misinformation-laden video claiming that COVID-19 prevalence was so much higher than estimated and using that estimate to claim that COVID-19 is actually five times less lethal than seasonal flu. I emphasize that, in reality, the case and death count from COVID-19 is grossly underestimated.
Do you intentionally conflate “Death Rate” with “Death Count” to make a false analogy or are you unaware that you did that? Having said that, do you agree with YouTube’s policy to pull any content that challenges what the WHO says? Are you supportive of that censorship?
>do you agree with YouTube’s policy to pull any content that challenges what the WHO says?
Where is that part of their policy stated?
This entire piece is just a bunch of contemptuous words, calls everything a conspiracy about 50 times, points out that she was a dissenting voice, and does very little to actually refute any of the claims Mikovits makes. This entire piece is useless and a waste of time for the reader.
Just wondering if you’ve had a chance to see this article? It contradicts some of what you’ve said, for example, that after having gotten married, she was a bartender for 5yrs and how she met Annette Whittemore and Daniel Peterson, in addition to work and findings of other scientists. I’m of no importance or scientific background, but just wondering if I’m missing something here. Albeit, I do agree that she’s flaming the government conspiracy movement, and some of what she says seems far fetched.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/chasing-the-shadow-virus-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-and-xmrv
In case you wondering, Mikovits’ anti-vaccine dumbassery goes deep. She actually was an “expert witness” (hold on, I’m laughing too hard to type) in an NVICP case recently. Dorit Rubinstein Reiss wrote all about it:
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaccines-cause-cancer-son-theresa-deisher/
I hope they didn’t pay her.
The Deisher case covered in full here:https://bit.ly/2W87164
Quite a bit more extensive and referenced than the simplistic and highly biased refutation cited above.
That was not Mikovits’ only attempt to leech from the Vaccine Court system by the provision of Expert Witnessing. I refer you to this entertaining document,
https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2012vv0378-175-0
in which Special Master Moran goes on at some length explaining why he rejected Judy’s own assessment of $350 / hour as reflecting the hourly value of her research and testimony, and reduced it to $250 and then down to $150 on account of lack of reputation or competence. Our old friend Clifford Shoemaker turns up on the same gravy-train.
Based on her reputation and bona fides, Ms. Mikovits’ credentials are simply not in the same league as experts who are paid $250 (or more) per hour. While this does not mean that Ms. Mikovits is incapable of providing expert testimony on specific topics, it does mean that she cannot expect to be paid the same hourly rate as those with much better reputations than she. Individuals with better reputations are, presumably, in far higher demand. Accordingly, based on the rate that the undersigned found reasonable for non-medically trained immunologists—$250 per hour—the undersigned makes an additional deduction of 40%. This deduction reflects Ms. Mikovits’ relative lack of reputability in the field compared to comparable experts. This results in a rate of $150 per hour for a non-medically trained immunologist of Ms. Mikovits’ reputation.
After Frank Ruscetti retired from NIH, he and Mikovits set up “MAR Consulting”. I am not sure entirely what consultancy work they provided, other than Expert Witnessing in failed Vaccine Court litigation, andpresentations to VaccineOne scamfests.
“MAR Consulting” has submitted a number of reports in Vaccine Program cases, all signed by both Mr. Ruscetti and Ms. Mikovits but with Ms. Mikovits being the testifying witness in each case. Thus, it remains unclear the extent to which the opinions contained in the report reflect the analysis and conclusions of Mr. Ruscetti exclusively. The invoice for the work indicates that a small fraction of the work was performed by Mr. Ruscetti.
The MAR Website is no longer extant and I do not know if the company still exists.
Judy at IPAK:
Vaccine Components and Host Interactions: Genetics, Epigenetics, Antigenic Load and Compromised Immunity
“The one size fits all concept of western vaccination paradigms began when little or nothing was known about T cell and innate immunity. Moreover, only recently were microbiota considered active participants in the immune response. Dysregulation of crosstalk between the developing immune system and the brain is now realized to be central to neuroimmune disease pathogenesis. The data explosion from immunobiology research shows that immune related adverse events inform all vaccinology. Abandonment of the current archaic strategy for vaccinology and vaccine development is long overdue. High content technologies for genomics, epigenomics, transcriptomics, immune and microbiome profiling should be utilized for increased safety and efficacy. The elimination of toxins in vaccine components and identification of hosts with genetic and immune susceptibilities to vaccines are attainable. In this chapter, our focus is on predictive factors of response and toxicity of the host rather than on individual agents.”
Curiously, her chapter in the abortive 2017 volume“Controversies in Vaccine Safety” boasted the same title. Though that time, Frank Ruscetti was listed as co-author, and I am left wondering whether he was aware of this use of his name.
The editors, you will recall, were Shaw & Dwoskin & Lujan & Tomljenovic. Contributors included our old friend Vinu Arumugham,with a chapter on “Vaccine Induced Allergies”. To be published by Elsevier / Academic Press until they realised that however much it was subsidised by Dwoskin, it was not worth the damage to their reputation, and they cancelled publication at the last minute.
I read the “theories” these conspiracy theorists spout, with their intricate, devious plots. I look at my own poor attempts at writing. And I just sigh, and wish I had their talent. But I have to admit even the great** Dan Brown can’t match what these people come up with.
**OK, not great. Successful, yes. But not so much with the great.
And yet this video keeps getting removed over and over from YouTube. Hmmm…I wonder why?
Blah blah blah. And, more blah blah blah. Vomit vomit vomit. I get sick reading ur trite trash. Get a real job.
She sued WPI with a whistleblower lawsuit 5 years ago, representing herself, basically. She had a lawyer help her write it. In march of this year, the suit was finally tossed out of court because Judy sucked at filing paperwork, even with the judge cutting her some slack to get her shit together. Read it here:
https://retractionwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/mikovits-complaint.pdf
Check Line 5 Page 2, point #7. This is where Mikovits says she co-authored a paper in 2011 asserting that the research behind the WPI subsidiary’s for-profit XMRV tests was faulty and contaminated, literally debunking her OWN research. The study in question that triggered the Science retraction:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21940862
She appears to like to have both sides of her bread buttered. She still, to this day, gets up at anti vaxxer conferences and continues to claim the original 2009 study on XMRV doesn’t just correlate to CFS, but to a swath of all sorts of disease and disorders, as the presenter Willis states within the first couple of minutes of the video.
She also claims in line 13 page 5 that it was the Whittemore’s who developed the test for XMRV based on her research, even though she’s listed as the co-inventor on several of the patents protecting the tests she helped developed based on the research she claims is flawed. Ok then!
One must note that you are highly biased, having worked in Big Pharma funded facilities for most of your medical career. Additionally, as indicated in your Wikipedia bio, you are and have been an “outspoken skeptic, and a critic of alternative medicine and the anti-vaccination movement.”
Additionally, you are the managing editor of the website “Science-Based Medicine,” which also is a “source of information about medical controversies and alternative medicine.”https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ whose latest article attempts to make the case that the MMR vaccine with toxic adjuvants like aluminum and mediums like diploid human tissue (aborted baby parts medium used to culture the active virus used in the vaccine).
You are an anti-alternative medical professor who has devoted his career to carrying water for the pharmaceutical and modern medical complex, which siphons off over $3 Trillion annually in the U.S. alone from the American public with pretty pathetic results when all is said and done. (A war on cancer that is still going with the first big three offerings:
carcinogenic chemotherapy (so toxic a spill requires a hazmat suit to clean up),
carcinogenic radiation therapy
the surgical removal of localized cancer (a symptom-based approach which often results in the spread because the cause was not addressed, only the symptom).
Additionally, your criticisms are simply repeats of the industry attacks on Dr. Mikovits. She refused to back off of her, finding that the XMRV retrovirus was associated with ME/CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome). Transmitted she and her fellow researcher discovered by pulverized mouse brains used to cultivate vaccines such as the mercury-preserved (thimerosal)polio vaccine where CFS first arose in the 1930s at LA County General Hospital.
Of course, the industry is going to drum up attacks on Dr. Mikovits when she brings up any potentially critical information about vaccines because they potentially threaten a cash cow that feeds them and indirectly yourself as well.
After all, it took you a short time to come out with an article attacking Dr. Mikovits, an expected response from someone who attacks any opinion, alternative, or information contrary to the approved medical/pharmaceutical complex accepted narrative.
People see through the modern medical mirage in increasing numbers, and biased blogs like yours are helping to further that awareness. Thank you for your kind contributions. Keep up the excellent work.
the MMR vaccine with toxic adjuvants like aluminum
There are no aluminium adjuvants in the MMR vaccine.
She refused to back off of her, finding that the XMRV retrovirus was associated with ME/CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome).
Mikovits faked data in her paperhttps://www.sciencemag.org/news/2011/10/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-researcher-fired-amidst-new-controversy
She has refused to back down, but everyone else in science knows XMRV was a laboratory artifact and is not associated with any disease.
Of course, the industry is going to drum up attacks on Dr. Mikovits when she brings up any potentially critical information about vaccines because they potentially threaten a cash cow that feeds them and indirectly yourself as well.
Pharmaceutical companies do not make much money out of vaccines. Usually, you give them once or a small number of times for a lifetime of protection from diseases. Pharmaceutical companies would make much more money out of drugs for treating the diseases.
Transmitted she and her fellow researcher discovered by pulverized mouse brains used to cultivate vaccines such as the mercury-preserved (thimerosal)polio vaccine where CFS first arose in the 1930s at LA County General Hospital.
Polio vaccines are grown in monkey kidney cells, not mouse brains.
You have managed to fill my anti-vaccine trope bingo card with this rant and I would like my prize now.
There are no aluminium adjuvants in the MMR vaccine.
Yes, true I cited the wrong vaccine. However, there are plenty of other vaccines with aluminum (a known CNS toxin) to fill in the gap (including those approved by the CDC for administration to infants at ages as low as 2 months)
As noted by PubMed: Aluminum is an experimentally demonstrated neurotoxin and the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant. Despite almost 90 years of widespread use of aluminum adjuvants, medical science’s understanding about their mechanisms of action is still remarkably poor. There is also a concerning scarcity of data on toxicology and pharmacokinetics of these compounds.https://bit.ly/2LfavO5
There are three general types of aluminum-containing adjuvants:
Aluminum hydroxide
Aluminum phosphate
Potassium aluminum sulfate (often called “Alum”)
The US licensed vaccines for children that contain aluminum adjuvants are:
DTP (diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine)
DTaP (diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis vaccine)
Some but not all Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b) conjugate vaccines
Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV)
Hepatitis B vaccines
All combination DTaP, Tdap, Hib, or Hepatitis B vaccines
Hepatitis A vaccines
Human Papillomavirus vaccine
Anthrax vaccine
Rabies vaccinehttps://bit.ly/3ciZyGW
According to the CDC’s lis of 2020 Recommended Vaccines for Infants and Children (birth through 6 years)https://bit.ly/35QsMLa
The following vaccines are recommended at the age of 2 months:
DTaP (diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis vaccine) which contains aluminum hydroxidehttps://bit.ly/3ftADTn
Pneumococcal or PCV13 vaccine – which contains aluminum phosphatehttps://bit.ly/2SN5j8k
Hib – which contains amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfatehttps://bit.ly/2zkq8Ry
IPV (polio vaccine) – which contains formaldehyde (A great ingredient to put into a developing baby’s body huh? Good preservative for cadavers too as well)
So, yeah, it may not be in the MMR vaccine. But heck by the time an infant gets to that vaccine at 12 months. They have already had a nice little dose of vaccines containing toxins such as heavy metal aluminum adjuvants with other helpful ingredients such as preservatives like formaldehyde for good measure.
Thanks for the correction though. You have added to my in the bag for Big Pharma saps list with your “rant” (Oh, please spare me the hyperbolic drama. Rant? A laughable description designed as an ad hominem put down. Duh!)
You have just been given your prize. My research and the links to the websites that validate all stated. Please feel free to fully enjoy your gift.
Mikovits faked her paper?
Yeah, a real credible source. A writer for Science Magazine. Hmmm…I wonder if there may be a bit of BigPharma bias mixed in there?
First of all, it was not her paper alone. She worked on the paper with Dr. Ruscetti at the Cleveland Clinic. The work was published in Science Magazine which is remarkably similar to the magazine your so-called critic works for.
Ruscetti bowed to the pressures and claimed mistakes. Mikovits did not. Ruscetti was retained. Mikovits was not. Any correlation in behavior and results there I wonder?
With regards to the polio vaccine noted, the vaccine was developed by Dr. Maurice Brodie in 1935 and was not cultivated on “monkey kidney cells”:
In 1935 Maurice Brodie, a research assistant at New York University, attempted to produce a polio vaccine, procured from virus in ground up monkey spinal cords, and killed by formaldehyde. Brodie first tested the vaccine on himself and several of his assistants. He then gave the vaccine to three thousand children. Many developed allergic reactions, but none of the children developed an immunity to polio.https://bit.ly/35JyI8q
The vaccine was procured from ground up monkey “spinal cords” and then killed with formaldehyde. It didn’t work btw after being given to 3,000 children. How surprising?
According to Mikovits the polio virus Brodie used was:
“passaged multiple times through mouse brain tissue. The use of the mouse was new in the 1930’s, only previously having been used in the development of a Yellow Fever vaccine.
In addition the staff [of the hospital where the chronic fatigue syndrome was first noted] was given an accompanying immune system booster, preserved with thimerosal, a mercury derivative.”
The cited references for the above statements are:
W.A. Sawyer et al., “Vaccination Against Yellow Fever with Immune Serum and Virus Fixed for Mice,” Journal of Experimental Medicine (May 31, 1932), 945–969.
John F. Kessel et al., “Use of Serum and the Routine and Experimental Laboratory Findings in the 1934 Poliomyelitis Epidemic,” American Journal of Public
Feel free to look them up and refute the facts cited regarding the use of the passage of the production of the polio vaccine administered to the LA County staff conducted by Mikovits and Ruscetti.
Another gift you can add to your collection btw.
I’m very generous. Thank you.
Big Pharma makes much of its money from the toxic synthetic chemicals that fill the PDR’s with contraindications and their coffers with profits that is true.
However, to pass off the vaccine as piddling is a bit disingenuous to say the least and a pile of dog poo to be frank. Injecting children worldwide with vaccines is quite profitable. Then again Bill Gates is just investing Billions in vaccines out of the goodness of his heart I suppose.
Additionally, it also serves as a way on ensuring a steady stream of customers later on as well serving as an investment in the future of the pharmaceutical cash machine.
By injecting toxic garbage like serious CNS toxins such as the heavy metal poisons of aluminum and mercury, formaldehyde preservatives, foreign DNA from dead babies (euphemistically called “human diploid tissue”) and more, the multi-trillion $ industry manages to weaken newly conceived human beings helping to make them sicker sooner or later.
What do they really care? They profit one way or the other. If the baby survives the toxic assault, they make some nice coin in the process. (Uh, you think vaccines are a money loser? Uh huh, that’s why there are over 90 of them in the pipelines under development and Gates et al are investing Billions in their development right? They’re money losers. Duh!)
If the baby gets sick as the result of the toxic vaccine assault, which grows more prolific each year it seems, they profit from the care of the sick child.
Either way they make money.
But hey, you just keep carrying water for them. They welcome all help from as many saps as they can get.
But hey, thanks for sharing. Have a good one.
We can start by the fact that describing aluminum salts as a heavy metal suggests some misunderstandings.
This blog addressed aluminum adjuvants many times in the past. The search engine can help you find that.
Here is another accessible source about them.https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/aluminum
On March 28, 1986, Dr. Robert B. Strecker and his brother, Attorney Theodore A Strecker,
summitted the Historical Document, “This Is A Bio-Attack Alert”, giving the US Government
Proof, AIDS/HIV, Cancers and other Diseases, were being intentionally spread during
Preventative Vaccinations Programs Globally. These diseases were being created in Labs and
Scientists were forcing Animal Diseases across the Species Barrier into Human Tissue Culture Cells
and creating these viruses to inject into human beings.
Solutions To CORONAVIRUS, OR COVID-19
The solutions to most all Viruses, Bacteria, Fungus, Pathogens and Parasites has proven to be
“Oxidizers”, which destroys these problems to the Human Body Extremely Effectively. The
primary oxidizers used since the 1940’s are Ozone Therapy and Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide.
More recently, in the 1990’s, a Master Mineral Solution, or MMS, was discovered by a Gold
Prospector named Jim Humble. MMS was used in Uganda against Malaria and documented on
film by a Red Cross worker. After 24-48 hours, 154 men, women and children were free of
Malaria. Unfortunately, after the video and documentation was presented as proof, the Red
Cross Headquarters had the proof removed from the Internet and a smear campaign began to
discredit the findings and proof.
1. Ozone & Oxygen Generators take incoming O2 and transforms it into O3. The Ozone
Generators can saturate the atmosphere of homes, hospitals, etc. and eliminate any
disease, pathogens, viruses, or fungus from the atmosphere very effectively. The Ozone
Generators are also used to oxygenate water for consumption and for cleaning the
Human Body and equipment. Ozone Generators have many uses, you just need to do
some research to Save Yourself from COVID-19 and anything else harmful to you and your
loved ones. “Ozone Generators Are Oxidizers” Oxidizers Kill Germs, Viruses, Diseases,
Pathogens’ and Parasites.
UMOJA RESEARCH – CORONAVIRUS 2020
2. Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide 35% is also an “Oxidizer”, which destroys pathogens,
viruses and diseases. The use of Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide is widely known as a
“Class 1 Oxidizer”, which Kills Bacteria, Fungus, Pathogens & Diseases on contact. Read
“Flood Your Body With Oxygen by, Ed McCabe. (Please Note: 35% Food Grade Hydrogen
Peroxide is Dangerous if not handled properly and should be kept out of reach of
children and stored in a cool place. If you place one drop on your finger and rub it into
another finger, it will burn and your contact fingers will look white, that’s the oxidation
process. Please use Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide 35% with Caution.)
3. MMS, Master Mineral Solution, this solution basically destroys Bacteria, Viruses, Diseases,
Pathogens, Parasites’ and anything else harmful to the Human Body. Keep in Mind, MMS
Dose Not Cure, It Destroys Whatever Is Harmful To The Human Body and The Body Heals
Itself.
Ref.
1. Oxygen Therapies, Ed McCabe
2. Flood Your Body With Oxygen, Ed McCabe
3. BURZYNSKI, Cancer Is Serious Business
4. Vaccines, What CDC Documents & Science Reveal, Dr. Sherri J. Tenpenny
5. HOXSEY: When Healing Becomes A Crime, Harry Hoxsey
6. Cancer The Forbidden Cures, Massimo Mazzucco
7. World Without Cancer: The Story of Laetrile, G. Edward Griffin
8. Understand MMS, Conversations with Jim Humble
9. MMS Health Recovery Handbook
10. AIDS Inc., Gary Null PhD
11. The Gerson Therapy Gerson Institute
12. A Cancer Therapy, Max Gerson
13. A Higher Form Of Killing; The Secret Story of Chemical and Biological Warfare, Robert Harris &
Jeremy Paxman
14. Dr. Robert B. Strecker, Archive.org
15. Wake Up, Zears Miles Audio Interview, Archive.org
16. Bacteria Inc., Cash Asher
17. The Cure Of All Diseases, Dr. Hulda Clark
18. Dr. William F. Koch Publications online, (Dr. Koch gave Cause & Cure of Cancer in 1918)
19. Dr. Royal R. Rife, Cured Every Known & Unknown Diseases in Early 1930’s
20. Forbidden Cures, Benjamin Ross
21. The BECK PROTOCOL A First AID Kit of The Future, Bob Beck (Free on Arcive.org)
22. Colloidal Silver, You can find information on how to use and produce your own Colloidal Silver
Generator. DO NOT use Sterling Silver, use Pure 12 Gauge Silver Wire. An online source is
puresilverwire.com, most of the Pure Silver Suppliers are closed due to coronavirus. Look in The
Beck Protocol for directions how to make a Colloidal Silver Generator. Although its 27v DC, you
can use 24v & 9v AC/DC Adaptors, or a 9v Battery with Alligator Clips. Follow instructions in The
Bob Beck Protocol.
23. THIS IS A BIO-ATTACK ALERT, Dr. Robert B. Strecker & Theodore A. Strecker
24. CORONAVIRUS 2020, UMOJA Research
Dr. Robert B Strecker and Attorney Theodore A. Strecker exposed the intentional spread of AIDS, Cancers and other Diseases to the FBI, CIA, Congress, Senators and President of USA on March 28, 1986.
Ref.
1. Oxygen Therapies, Ed McCabe
2. Flood Your Body With Oxygen, Ed McCabe
3. BURZYNSKI, Cancer Is Serious Business
4. Vaccines, What CDC Documents & Science Reveal, Dr. Sherri J. Tenpenny
5. HOXSEY: When Healing Becomes A Crime, Harry Hoxsey
6. Cancer The Forbidden Cures, Massimo Mazzucco
7. World Without Cancer: The Story of Laetrile, G. Edward Griffin
8. Understand MMS, Conversations with Jim Humble
9. MMS Health Recovery Handbook
10. AIDS Inc., Gary Null PhD
11. The Gerson Therapy Gerson Institute
12. A Cancer Therapy, Max Gerson
13. A Higher Form Of Killing; The Secret Story of Chemical and Biological Warfare, Robert Harris &
Jeremy Paxman
14. Dr. Robert B. Strecker, Archive.org
15. Wake Up, Zears Miles Audio Interview, Archive.org
16. Bacteria Inc., Cash Asher
17. The Cure Of All Diseases, Dr. Hulda Clark
18. Dr. William F. Koch Publications online, (Dr. Koch gave Cause & Cure of Cancer in 1918)
19. Dr. Royal R. Rife, Cured Every Known & Unknown Diseases in Early 1930’s
20. Forbidden Cures, Benjamin Ross
21. The BECK PROTOCOL A First AID Kit of The Future, Bob Beck (Free on Arcive.org)
22. Colloidal Silver, You can find information on how to use and produce your own Colloidal Silver
Generator. DO NOT use Sterling Silver, use Pure 12 Gauge Silver Wire. An online source is
puresilverwire.com, most of the Pure Silver Suppliers are closed due to coronavirus. Look in The
Beck Protocol for directions how to make a Colloidal Silver Generator. Although its 27v DC, you
can use 24v & 9v AC/DC Adaptors, or a 9v Battery with Alligator Clips. Follow instructions in The
Bob Beck Protocol.
23. THIS IS A BIO-ATTACK ALERT, Dr. Robert B. Strecker & Theodore A. Strecker
24. CORONAVIRUS 2020, UMOJA Research
Mining Woo for profit.
An expat friend of mine wanted me to watch that Plandemic pile of shit. WHY WHY WHY do these hee-haw conspiracy yokels almost always insist on video for their proselytizing? … It’s because their main audience has not read anything longer than a People Magazine article since ninth grade.
Thanks for a thorough analysis of this anal-product.
Orac writes,
“Mikovits asks why we’re closing beaches because there are ‘healing microbes in the sand,'”…
MJD says,
In contradiction, a study indicated that a variety of pathogens have been reported from beach sands, and recent epidemiology studies have found some evidence of health risks associated with sand exposure.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4219924/
Mikovits uses of beach sand, and their microorganisms, as a mysterious healing remedy is bizarre.
Thank God you wrote this extensive review. I almost wanted to vomit reading the thousands and thousands of posts about this fraud. As a retired Army Colonel RN for over 45 years I have traveled the world treating the enemy and our own. Science matters. Honest science matters even more.
Her assertions about the similarity to hiv coincide with this research (which she mentions):
What can you say about it?
Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag
We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature. This work provides yet unknown insights on 2019-nCoV and sheds light on the evolution and pathogenicity of this virus with important implications for diagnosis of this virus.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf (archived)
This now-withdrawn paper claims that SARS-CoV-2 has “uncanny similarity” to HIV-1, implying that it was engineered or recombinated with it in some way.
It has been widely debunked by other scientists. Such inserts can also be found in bacteria, bacteriophages (viruses that only attack bacteria), and other viruses, including other coronaviruses (directly contradicting the paper). In fact, any six-letter sequence is likely to match against an HIV protein.
Is the intentional violation of copyright laws in her YouTube video a brilliant move? It seems unlikely that any content producer would be unaware how closely they police for fair use.
It allows a group trying to market and sell a book and documentary drum up attention by claiming YouTube is helping the shadowy forces of big government and big pharma cover up information “They” don’t want you to know?
That was not Mikovits’ only attempt to leech from the Vaccine Court system by the provision of Expert Witnessing. I refer you to this entertaining document,
https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2012vv0378-175-0
in which Special Master Moran goes on at some length explaining why he rejected Judy’s own assessment of $350 / hour as reflecting the hourly value of her research and testimony, and reduced it to $250 and then down to $150 on account of lack of reputation or competence. Our old friend Clifford Shoemaker turns up on the same gravy-train.
Based on her reputation and bona fides, Ms. Mikovits’ credentials are simply not in the same league as experts who are paid $250 (or more) per hour. While this does not mean that Ms. Mikovits is incapable of providing expert testimony on specific topics, it does mean that she cannot expect to be paid the same hourly rate as those with much better reputations than she. Individuals with better reputations are, presumably, in far higher demand. Accordingly, based on the rate that the undersigned found reasonable for non-medically trained immunologists—$250 per hour—the undersigned makes an additional deduction of 40%. This deduction reflects Ms. Mikovits’ relative lack of reputability in the field compared to comparable experts. This results in a rate of $150 per hour for a non-medically trained immunologist of Ms. Mikovits’ reputation.
After Frank Ruscetti retired from NIH, he and Mikovits set up “MAR Consulting”. I am not sure entirely what consultancy work they provided, other than Expert Witnessing in failed Vaccine Court litigation, andpresentations to VaccineOne scamfests.
“MAR Consulting” has submitted a number of reports in Vaccine Program cases, all signed by both Mr. Ruscetti and Ms. Mikovits but with Ms. Mikovits being the testifying witness in each case. Thus, it remains unclear the extent to which the opinions contained in the report reflect the analysis and conclusions of Mr. Ruscetti exclusively. The invoice for the work indicates that a small fraction of the work was performed by Mr. Ruscetti.
The MAR Website is no longer extant and I do not know if the company still exists.
PSA:
Check with cloudflare, Orac. This same little text problem here also shows on the 502 error from them that you’re unreachable.
HTML insertion. Whatever it takes, I guess, to keep you safe (strangely enough, the text is not fucked up on a firefox browser but it also indicates your site is buckling*).
*No other sites I visit are exhibiting this strange behavior.
I just turned on Cloudflare’s “under attack” mode. I’ve had over 420K requests in the last few hours, with only 18K unique visits, which makes me think I’m under DDoS attack. I’m going to leave it on overnight and then reevaluate.
which seems to be trying to push updates every other day. Even worse is ABP on Windoze
Ah, good ole ABP. But it has not been the standard of care for several years now.
Try ublock origin (not ublock) it defaults to incorporating the same ‘ricks easylist’ as ABP plus many others you can tick on or off such as facebook following you around anytime you see the stupid blue f on the page, cookie popups, paywalls (sometimes), and much more.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
Push updates only ‘every other day’? Damn. That must be nice. Before I blew my trusty mobo and landed with this piece of crap, I had FF 71 or 72 on (because I could never get reddit video to do right with any build of palemoon) and that thing would nag every five minutes or so before shutting up. And always nag after a restart of the browser or just waiting a day before refreshing it. After a month, it updated itself anyways and set all my about:config preferences back to superspy.
The fix is to grab a developer build and you can turn off automatic updates or even calling out to check for them. Also, you can sideload any extention (not just approved ones from Mozilla) and keep them all working in the event that Mozilla forgets to renew a signing certificate again, and tick individual ones not to check for updates*.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19823701
Southside. Gallagers, man.
*ABP as well as ublock regrabs easylist every couple of days by default — I seem to remember a switch to keep that process silent.
@Narad
Any idea how to globally disable rollovers with ublock?
I had to Ecosia (because my google is broken) ‘rollover’; But no, I do not**. If you were only talking about the big blue ‘f’ and whatnot (except the login with — those are still there as they are under jetpack) then that is fixed by checking the easy privacy, Fanboy’s social, Fanboy’s annoyance, anti-facebook, and social annoyance filters.
You might find a lead here:https://www.maketecheasier.com/ultimate-ublock-origin-superusers-guide/
And probably you’d need to dig into the ‘my rules’ syntax — But, if you’re talking about it highlighting any link, then Ithink it would also render the link unclickable and just text kinda like happens to me with noscript sometimes.
That would require extra steps of copying and pasting the url into a new tab. Barbaric.
**unless the concern is browser prefetching and caching those links; in that case, with FF, there are settings in about:config to stop that.
As with some other per-site switches, the default state of per-site JavaScript master switch can be set in the Settings pane, thus allowing to disable JavaScripteverywhere by default, and enable on a per-site basis:
JavaScript master switch rules appear as no-scripting: [hostname] true entries in the My rules pane.
The JavaScript master switch can be disabled through the “Relax blocking mode” keyboard shortcut.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Per-site-switches#no-scripting
^^ That would certainly do it. Testing on YouRube to stop the preview playing on hover works perfectly; It is only that the entire page is now just grey rectangles.
Umatrix is what you want. Goes hand in hand with Ublock Origin — I dare say I haven’t run active antivirus (other than to sometimes check …questionable…budget software or search and destroy on the rare occasion that my usual state of not checking said software has lead to an oopsie(s)) in 15 years since using ad block/script block combinations.
I’m not sure what truth can be heard in either one of these spin-doctors, but the “sounds of silence” can be clearly read in The Discover Magazine article from July 19, 2013 cited in a comment above and discussed below. After reading that article, it’s clear that the truth is NOT in this virulent attack by an anonymous, unscientific, allopathic “onc-columist.”
Good scientists don’t write this kind of garbage full of half-truths and outright lies, or “mistakes” in the truth. Check out the Discover article to see what I mean, but the only reason I write here at all is my bone is with the allopathic distortion of physiology and human health that underlies all this research and intervention into natural medicine on Earth.
It’s a highly-destructive game of humans manipulating nature, and look where it’s gotten us. Think the US didn’t import Nazi scientists from Germany and hide their laboratories, after WWII to start up US chemical and biological warfare research? Think again. Think the COVID virus just lept on some poor shopper at a Wuhan seafood market, with the lab WE HELPED FUND, just 900 yards away?Really? And what kind of logical evidence, instead of hearsay, half-truth claims would suggest that?
Personally, I think US allopathic medicine and it’s involvement in this type of research is the real story we should be examining here. AND here’s my takeaway column on it:
For those who have read this information about Judy Mikovits from the “oncolumist” who both ridicules and disputes the videos sometimes still circulating on Judy Mikovits and the Pandemic, the Discover article is a credible place to start sorting out the evidence. The backs up a lot of the facts claimed in the video, and contradicts a lot of the slanderous libel in the opinionated writing of this poorly-trained professional who is so clearly invested in the ignorance of interventionist medicine.
Sadly, an allopathic-trained oncologist who blogs incessantly behind a pseudonym no less, just isn’t a good, front-range source of the truth, as the Discover article makes clear….So, if you’ve read the “Respectful Ignorance,” I mean, “Insolence,” column about Mikovis and COVID, but then make sure you read the Discover Magazine article too.
Without adding any facts to this aspect of the story, I want to comment on the brief history of US medicine that was mentioned in the Pandemic trailer, (according to the on-columist) and ridiculed in his column. This back story, which is far from irrelevant today, is unfortunately, all too true….According to the pitiful, anonymous oncologist, the movie is promoting pseudoscience because it says:
“In the early 1900s, America’s first Billionaire, John D. Rockefeller bought a German pharmaceutical company that would later assist Hitler to implement his eugenics-based vision by manufacturing chemicals and poisons for war.
Rockefeller wanted to eliminate the competitors of Western medicine, so he submitted a report to Congress declaring that there were too many doctors and medical schools in America, and that all natural healing modalities were unscientific quackery.
Rockefeller called for the standardization of medical education, whereby only his organization be allowed to grant medical school licenses in the US. And so began the practice of immune suppressive, synthetic and toxic drugs.
Once people had become dependent on this new system and the addictive drugs it provided, the system switched to a paid program, creating lifelong customers for the Rockefellers.”
Sadly, this story about the history of US medicine is the truth–which is why we primarily now have a high-tech, “barber surgeon’s” perspective of human health and medicine in this country. And that is also why lay midwifery is legal today in only 16 states–yes, you can go to jail in the other 34 if you assist a woman giving birth, without a license. And that is also why episiotomies are still done in almost 99% of hospital births in the US, (resulting in lifelong pain and medical problems, sometimes including additional surgeries, for many women)– even though the last medical study I saw from Canada indicated that episiotomies were only “medically necessary” in about 7% of childbirths).
So we have this expensive, unnecessary, and debilitating surgery done almost automatically by a lot of male OB-gyns–fir their convenience, the hospitals’ profit, and at great expense to women’s health. Surprised? If you want to read more about this back story of how the male OB-gyns first went to Carnegie and Mellon in the late1800s to stop competition from midwives and how this then led to formation of the AMA and the closing of all alternative med schools in America, then read the book I did in the 1970s by Gina Corea: “The Hidden Malpractice Against Women”–and you’ll have a better understanding of why herbal medicine and plants are so poorly understood in America–(in contrast say to Germany, where e-documents on herbal research are published and funded by taxpayer dollars).
This isn’t just a history of malpractice against women. This is the story of “malpractice” against all Americans, and the ignorant, high-dollar funding of both sides of this story that has led to the ill-health of millions of Americans and the irrational prejudice against the practice of Indigenous and natural medicine in the U.S.
It’s a sad history about greed, and White, upper-class, men’s control of childbirth and women’s health, and
it describes the practices most people think are based on science and almost all the medicine that U.S. insurance companies are willing to pay for. Instead, understanding medical paradigms should lead you to understand why most US doctors are so ignorant about alternative medicine and why Integrative Medicine was developed as a new paradigm in the first place. Not that this perspective of medicine is practiced–or even understood–by most licensed physicians in the U.S.
This is the sad history of medicine we have in this country….”Read’em and weep,” I say boys….if you’ve got a trace of empathy or intelligence in your bones, and you want the woman you love to be healthy and bear healthy children, then stop this virulent oppression.
There are always 3 sides to every story.
The 3rd side is unseen, or hidden, or
what I love as a “learner” the undiscovered.
As they say, Right What You Know.
Get busy Learning or get busy selling your
Stupidity. Humanity has this tendency of
Believing that we know most of what there is
To know. We look backwards at what we’ve learned. However the real geniuses look forward into the darkness and bridge. We have much to learn. And will. Soon new technological advancements will carry us through much of what we haven’t found solutions through. And vast improvements towards humanities future.
Personally I’m hopeful. That the controllers of Earth will be exposed and side lined. The meek may find peace. Money and its powers will fade.
We all really need to be free, not afraid.
The truth is coming.
So instead of wasting precious minutes bashing one side or the other (though entertaining for the readers it is), use your own free-thinking, intelligent mind to decide for yourself (given the volumes of info)…then wait. I can only HOPE disease/sickness won’t be on the rise after we FULLY re-open. But that remains to be seen.
I was fact checking the “Plandemic” vignette featuring Dr Judy Mikovits and I found the articles below interesting.
Snopes Facts here =>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scientist-vaccine-jailed/
American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), reputable news source, shares facts on Dr’s arrest. The Dr’s “gag order” the result of her lawsuit with her former company after her firing. =>https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2011/11/controversial-cfs-researcher-arrested-and-jailed
This Heavy article, a non-biased news source, touches on claims of the Dr and why the video is taken down on social media. =>https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/plandemic-movie-video/
Wikipedia on the Dr here =>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits.
Retraction article from AAAS is interesting. See last paragraph.
The Dr’s “gag order” the result of her lawsuit with her former company after her firing. =>https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2011/11/controversial-cfs-researcher-arrested-and-jailed
There is nothing in the Science report about a “gag order”. If Mikovits is claiming that some kind of “gag order” has silenced her for the last few years, she really needs to come up with some evidence, or people are going to write her off as a shameless lying fraudster.
You’re a member of which political party? If you say you’re a Democrat, well, you just flushed any credibility down the toilet. The Democrats are liars and are in on this with Gates, Fauci, and others. This whole thing was funded by Obama in 2011, back when they tried to create something with the avian flu. Since there was too much fear in playing with that, they switched to coronaviruses. It makes sense since coronaviruses are far more common and more easily found in nature. Dr. Fauci was heavily involved and most likely Democrat scientists from US labs were as well. That’s why China blamed the United States. Democrats are using this to full push their agenda and to change the United States into a communist country, in fully unity and coalition with the Chinese Communist Party. Gates gets to use this to push his eugenics, to get everyone microchipped, and to further his vaccines for all agenda. Fauci gets to make billions from the vaccine sales. The Democrats will get to track your every movement and activity. Gates will be able to have a database that will put the ones built through Alexa, Siri, and Google Home to shame. Your information will be sold repeatedly. They will use the information against you when needed.
Basically, anyone who is treating the words of Gates, Fauci and the Democratic leadership as gospel are going to be in for a rude awakening. If you love the United States, you will push back against this grossly obvious attempt to screw this country over and sell it to the highest bidder. On the other hand, if you hate the United States, continue doing your thing. We will be in another civil war and this one will not end with a reunited country and if the country is reunited, the rebels will be the winners this time.
Honestly, it’d be better if all the liberals would just board planes heading towards China, Venezuela, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. If they want totalitarianism, GTFO. We will survive just fine and if you screw with us from over there, there are nukes for that.
Deer silly person, why would Bill Gates use the products of competitors like Apple and Google? Do you not understand how capitalistic companies work? They compete with each other, they do not cooperate.
Oh, wait… it seems you do not know how science works. Science does not care about politics, except when it gets in its way. Like the the church in Italy going after Galileo and calculus.
Guhh.
It should be fun, fun, fun. But it has yet to be determined whether one gets immunity or if it is like HIV and just keeps hitting. Airborne aids. Checkmate, southern baptists — now let us all get together and sing some praises and shit.
You can’t sell the bleach to drink in god’s name anymore. This is what tyranny looks like:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article242484731.html
Thank You! This video has spread like wildfire (or like a virus?) and people are seeing it as “proof”. I did a couple quick searches and immediately saw it was many conspiracy theories rolled in one. Another friend found her anti-vaccine connection. Foolishly, I debated with people who NEED to believe this.
It took a bit more work to realize this is being presented like “The Blair Witch Project” and people aren’t realizing it’s a plug for a movie. Researching Willis confuses me a bit; I guess I was hoping to find he was luring people in for a big surprise ( you conspiracy folks have all been punked!) but I guess not.
I found the connection with an old presidential tweet interesting; joked that if I were a conspiracy theorist this is rich., it’s an article about people believing bad science:
https://qz.com/595909/why-bad-science-wont-ever-die/
Also, do you know anything about this organization? The director has been connected with it.https://www.sourceofsynergyfoundation.org/welcome
it was refreshing to see Science supported and restored my faith in critical thinking skills!
Chris, oh wait…It seems you struggle with 3rd grade vocabulary. You used “deer” (“Deer silly person”) instead of “Dear” one of 84 third grade sight words (Lol) Just sayin’?
Basically, the Whittemore-Peterson Institute reported that Mikovits’ lab notebooks were found to be missing after she had been terminated, noting that she had the only key to the locked desk in which they were stored. Mikovits’s attorney countered that several people had keys to her office and laboratory, although, conspicuously, I never saw any mention of anyone else having a key to the desk. A few days later, Mikovits was arrested for theft. Ultimately, criminal charges were dismissed.
You will be shocked, I know, to learn that none of this was Judy’s fault and all the blame for the legal imbroglio falls on her student falls on
…falls on her lab assistant, Pfost.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-research-into-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-turned-into-an-ugly-fight
Pfost declined to comment on the substance of this article, but in a signed affadivit, given in November 2011 shortly before Mikovits’ arrest and used by the WPI in its civil case against her, Pfost says he removed the notebooks from the lab at Mikovits’s behest and hid them at his mother’s house until Mikovits returned to Reno the following month.
According to Mikovits, on Oct. 16 she returned to Reno to gather her remaining possessions. Pfost picked her up at the airport and pointed to a big birthday bag in his backseat of his car. He had just turned 30. The notebooks are in there, she recalls him saying.
They returned to her condo and started packing. The next day when she woke up, she says, Pfost was gone and the birthday bag was empty by her front door. She says she assumed that Pfost had taken them—to photo copy or to be safe—so she finished packing her things, loaded the cardboard boxes into her car, and left for California.
On Nov. 4 the WPI filed a legal complaint that marked the official beginning of its civil lawsuit against Mikovits, alleging among other things breach of contract and that Mikovits was in wrongful possession of intellectual property—including notebooks, flashdrives, and e-mails—that “severely hampered” the WPI’s ability to continue its research.
One week later came the man with the papers. And the five days on the boat. And the long weekend in prison.
According to Mikovits, it was while she was in jail that her husband received a call from Pfost, who told him that the notebooks were in California, with Mikovits. Sitting in her jail cell, Mikovits thought of two unpacked boxes stuffed into her closet. She told her husband to look there. He did, found the notebooks, and turned them over to the police. Mikovits was released from prison.
But you failed to make any valid points against what she said, other than assassinating people’s character along party lines.
What is the difference in dying “with” and dying “from” Covid 19?
Here is video of Judy Mikovits participating in a press conference with W. Ian Lipkin to announce the publication of his study in which they found no association between Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and XMRV.https://youtu.be/Y3dJsNZuNUk?t=336
Why would Mikovits be at this conference to support Lipkin’s findings, to agree that her Science paper was incorrect? Because she cooperated with the study and is in fact listed as an author on the published study. That’s right, Judy Mikovits discredited her own research!https://mbio.asm.org/content/3/5/e00266-12
This is irrefutable proof that Judy Mikovits’ story in PlanDemic that her research has been suppressed (“At the height of her career, Dr. Mikovits published a blockbuster article in the journal Science. The controversial article sent shockwaves through the scientific community as it revealed that the common use of animal and human fetal tissues were unleashing devastating plagues of chronic diseases. For exposing their deadly secrets, the minions of big pharma waged war on Dr. Mikovits, destroying her good name, career, and personal life.” ) is complete and utter bullshit.
No – I’m sorry but it appears you’ve simply dismissed this out of hand re: Dr. Mikovits.
She HAS the credibility, the qualifications & growing support of many medical professionals around the world.
Note that she’s able to document her claims and had provided the FBI with evidence regarding her assertions 5 years ago. And …. they sat on it.
Please watch this 2nd interview linked below. It provides more details and will help in broadening the understanding of your followers.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qq2uuHfmq8k&t=897s
Please also read the forward written by Robert Kennedy Jr. to her book “Plague of Corruption”, found on Amazon. Interestingly, if you review related titles on Amazon, you’ll find a number of people have been attempting to expose Dr. Fauci, et al for years, as the “Plandemic” documentary fairly points out if the full 26 minutes of Part 1 is watched.
It’s important to be fair to your viewers and followers. They NEED this information to make informed decisions. Everyone does.
Please do not dismiss this out of hand with a mere Google search. We are all becoming frightfully aware of how reputations are managed, mismanaged & mangled by the titans of Google and social media these days….
Thanks and good luck to all out there.
It’s not complete though, is it? I’ve read in a few places about how she responded to the initial inability of other labs to duplicate her findings…that she claimed that just because they couldn’t find XMRV, that it didn’t rule out the family of gammaretroviruses that could also be responsible. And during a presentation she showed a slide showing results from a Western Blot test, using 5-azacytidine…with an identifiable patient number. But some noticed that it was an exact match to a picture used to reference the body of work in the published paper, where a different patient number was assigned, and that there was no mention of 5-azacytidine in the published work in materials or in the steps. And that she and Lombardi (and others) had to admit that they had indeed used 5-azacytidine but omitted that detail in the paper, because they didn’t find it “germane” to the issue of XMRV. And that they used the picture again and changed the label because they were “under a lot of stress” and to “protect patient privacy.”
I understood that was a very significant part of her fall from grace. Scienetific blasphemy.
I’m confused. Dr. Mikovitz has made it clear that she’s not antivax. So why are you calling her antivax? If I recall correctly, her main beef was that some vaccines had been contaminated and her paper exposing this fact was blocked from publication. She didn’t have a beef with the vaccines themselves.
I suppose you think that the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea) is a democracy, too. Seriously, antivaxxers almost always deny that they’re antivax. ?
Mikovits has a long history of promoting the bogus claim that vaccines cause autism, as well as other antivax pseudoscience. The co-author of her book is a rabid antivax loon. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., a leader of the antivaccine movement, wrote the foreword of her book. She’s antivax as hell.
Just to make sure I wasn’t losing my mind, I looked up the definition of antivax. It means “opposed to vaccination.” Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has stated he is not opposed to vaccination. Here is one place he says that:
https://ricochet.com/podcast/whiskey-politics/reconsidering-robert-f-kennedy-jr-why-rfk-jr-s-not-anti-vaxxer-his-take-on-todays-democrats-trump/
Dr. Mikovitz says here at 2:40 that “Vaccines definitely don’t cause autism.”https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=n6HPe-s1V2o&feature=emb_logo
The antivaxxers I know of can’t stand Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. or Del Bigtree.
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I knew who you were when you labeled Dr. Mikovitz as an antivaxxer. Which she is not.
Except that she is. She’s spoken at antivax conferences. Her co-author is co-founder of a major antivax website. The foreword is written by RFK Jr., a major leader of the antivax movement.
Except that RFK Jr. is not an antivaxxer. RFK Jr. calls for things like (1) better safety testing of vaccines (so that they at least are on par with the same safety testing that regular medications go through with double blind studies of vaccinated vs unvaccinated), (2) the repeal of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that bans lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers for damages caused by the vaccines and (3) that vaccines should not be mandatory, just like any other medical intervention isn’t mandatory.
It seems like you are constantly misrepresenting and ad hominem-attacking anyone who disagrees with your opinion, which happens to be extremely well aligned with the (by far) most influential lobby in Washington – the pharmaceutical lobby. Using every opportunity to smear your opponents with such disingenuous tactics is incongruous with wanting any rational, intelligent, honest exchange and the effect of that on a discerning reader is that you indeed are smearing yourself.
“RFK Jr. is not an antivaxxer”?
The only reaction possible: ???
https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2017/01/13/no-robert-f-kennedy-jr-is-not-a-vaccine-skeptic/
He’s so antivaccine that his own family called him out on it:https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2019/05/08/rfk-jr-so-antivaccine/
He’s so antivaccine that he’s compared the vaccine program to the Holocaust, not just once but multiple times!https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2017/01/11/donald-trump-meets-with-antivaccine-ideologue-robert-f-kennedy-jr/
Those three are all nonsense. Vaccines ARE tested on par with and even more stringently than regular pharmaceuticals, and there are plenty of double-blind studies. The NCVIA doesn’t ban lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers. It only requires that vaccine injury claims go through the Vaccine Court first. If the complainants lose, they not only have their legal fees and reasonable costs reimbursed, win or lose, but they can sue elsewhere. Finally, vaccines aren’t mandatory. Parents can refuse them for their children; the price is that their child might not be admitted to school.
the studies that supposedly refute Mikovits’ findings. The studies that fail to detect XMRV used and assay that was too specific, naturally they weren’t able to detect anything.
Mikovits publicly conceded that XMRV was not detected in the blood samplesbecause it wasn’t there.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/09/final-study-confirms-virus-not-implicated-chronic-fatigue-syndrome
“It’s simply not there,” Judy Mikovits said at a press conference this morning
Mikovits, formerly at the Whittemore Peterson Institute (WPI) in Reno, Nevada, participated in Lipkin’s study and concedes that it is “the definitive answer. … There is no evidence that XMRV is a human pathogen.”
She reneged on that concession as soon as she found that antivaxxers wanted to hear that XMRV ISREAL, because of course she did.
The studies that couldn’t detect XMRV used an assay that was too specific
I really love it when people can’t even get their own shtick right. This comes fromKenyon & Lever and is wholly contingent upon the speculation that “XMRV is much more genetically diverse than originally observed.”
And… let’s move to the next paragraph:
“This charitable view is difficult to sustain, and the presence of yet another retrovirus in these samples most likely illustrates how easily contamination of samples can occur. In prostate cancer research, the techniques used to detect XMRV needed to be incredibly sensitive in order to find such small amounts of viral material. However, the numerical data from Lombardi suggest that XMRV is abundant in the blood cells of CFS patients, yet no corroborating data has emerged from other laboratories. Detection of a virus using highly sensitive techniques and high-level detection of a new pathogen in a tissue where others cannot find a trace both point to the probability of contamination.”
Also of note: In her presentation to the 2014 AutismOne scamfest, Mikovits showed this slide to establish the same point: there wasno XMRV in 12 samples of blood (six of the samples being from ME-CFS donors).
http://nebula.wsimg.com/8df84321dea7c253559283e0d7e84055?AccessKeyId=AA72033528C71398D300&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
In 2014 at least, Mikovits’ claim was that the results presented in the 2009 Science paper werefake. Since it can’t have been her who faked them (by spiking the samples with XMRV plasmid), it must have been one of her co-authors. Hence the warning at the bottom of the slide about choosing colleagues wisely.
One fallacy on this review (with time, I could list others): «No, people are being arrested for overcrowding and refusing to social distance sufficiently.» And yet, here in Italy, where I live, people were charged 400 to 1000 euros fines for running alone in a deserted beach, swimming alone in the sea, phishing alone in a river or lake, manifesting with social distancing in the streets, putting a flower in the tomb of someone, giving a mass to thirteen people in a church (with capacity of hundreds of seats), as well as an old women that was charged with a fine only for being seated in a bench, while resting after going to the supermarket, some went to custody (jail) for resistance to these abuses… A long list of absurdities, I could say, that goes on and on, and still does…
Apparently Newsweek is not ready to exonerate Fauci like you are.
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741
lol this dude is literally some random blogger on the internet, I wouldn’t use that particular source to claim someone as a conspiracy theorist or not. Didn’t disprove her creditability, but definitely made his liberal bias crystal clear.
“Yes, the conspiracy theory in Plandemic is utterly ridiculous to those of us who know science, medicine, and history, but most people don’t know the relevant science, medicine, and history. To them, it sounds plausible.”
Yet he lists no science, medicine, or history at all and uses WIKIPEDIA as a source which is hardly creditable. He lists his person perspectives. BEST OF ALL he sticks up for people like Bill Gates, who he obviously knows nothing about. The fact is that Judy Mikovots is FAR from the only person blowing the whistle on vaccines and pharmaceuticals and that is where your cognitive dissonance must have its foundation. If you research for yourself you may be surprised what you find. Time to go back to college and learn how to write a persuasive paper loser.
I have one thing to say— WHY would Fauci say “a pandemic is coming”? In what context was this said? Is it camera and audio trickery??? All the naysayers that like to point fingers at so-called “conspiracy theorists”, “anti-vaxxers”, and whom just plain label their lives away….HOW and WHY would this man Fauci say that? To ME, that would ONLY be stated by someone with advanced, or planned “knowledge” of something in the works. I smell a rat. This is puppeteer, insider-trading kind of nonsense. Come on. How much of this corruption are we gonna endure? Stop the peoples’ division. Labeling. Etc.
I’m thankful to the friend who put me onto your debunking of the Plandemic Parody. I loathed the mockumentary and when someone tried to put out that Judy Mikovits was ‘intelligent’ I said there are first class honours from Cambridge and cut and paste degrees from substandard universities, for which I placed her. I also said that I didn’t have the time to argue to ‘investigate’ the obvious bullshit as I was saving my tin foil for cooking rather than making a hat. I pull my hair out at misinformation and stupidity (especially when it is dangerous) and I despise people who have tall poppy syndrome, obviously jealous that they aren’t as wealthy or successful as others. Maslow hierarchy has self-actualisation at the top, people who have a strong sense of justice and altruism are generally gifted. I put Gates in this category. To discredit him when he donates so much of his wealth to charity and to say he is trying to profit comes from people who are unable to make it in the real world. If you live your life by jealousy and guilt, you will never live a proper life. I am forever pointing out media bias and if I don’t recognise where an article comes from, I just hithttps://mediabiasfactcheck.com. I’ve been trying to point out what are credible peer reviewed articles, but you will still get a few morons who want to spam conspiracy bullshit. I ask about the labs in The Spanish Flu or the Plague. I started my own covid19 group page for the Little Rock I am living on because I couldn’t cope with the lack of worldwide information and education. This mockumentary has tried to enter it several times. My caveat with the group is that you have to back your post with peer reviewed credible articles. If you want to come lurk on the FB group page, it would be an honour. I’ve been following the covid19 with an intense fascination and it’s been good to keep my mind distracted while I deal with other ongoing issues. I’m easily bored and covid had managed to combine both math, health and economics. As I’ve got degrees in most of those, my brain is very happy. BSc(Hons) GradDipEd BEd GradDipFinPlan MNursSci MAppFin. I had to pull out of a PhD a while ago due to circumstances but I’d like to get back to it one day…. Love your article. Thanks again.
Hey what state are you from? No let me guess you are from one of those southern red states that take more money from the government than they pay in but hate socialism! We settled the civil war once or maybe you are too stupid to realize this! In case you forgot I’ll refresh your memory on what happened. The union kicked your backward hillbilly asses back to poedunkville so you can hunt squirrels and other small animals that don’t shoot back! So the next time you are FIXIN to open your mouth about another civil war remember we put you in your place the last time and we will do it again!!
@ Jesus Christ follower
I suggest you read the following paper which makes quite clear that both the Old Testament and the Talmud explicitly emphasize treating non-Jews with compassion, justice, decency, etc. And, maybe you should also carefully read the New Testament. Jesus was NOT against the Torah, the Old Testament, the Talmud, he preached them; but added more and, of course, the promise of eternal life. Jesus wasn’t an anti-semitic moron asshole like you. By the way, I’m a Jew who attended as an undergraduate Loyala University of Chicago, have had numerous Christian friends, including Baptists, and Moslem friends and have studied the New Testament, Christian theology, Islam, and Buddhism.
Rabbi Reuven Hammer (2016 Apr 21). The Status of Non-Jews in Jewish Law and Lore Today. Available at:https://www.rabbinicalassembly.org/sites/default/files/public/halakhah/teshuvot/2011-2020/hammer-non-jews-law-lore.pdf
AS ORAC AND OTHERS HAVE MADE PERFECTLY CLEAR, AD HOMINEM ATTACKS ARE JUST A MAJOR EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY CAN’T DEFEND THEIR POSITIONS, DON’T EVEN ATTEMPT TO REFUTE WHAT ORAC AND OTHERS WRITE. IN OTHER WORDS, STUPID STUPID STUPID ASSHOLES ASSHOLES ASSHOLES.
AND MANY OF THE PEOPLE THEY SUPPORT MAKE MONEY SELLING UNSCIENTIFICALLY CONFIRMED COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE MEDICINES. BUT, OF COURSE, THAT DOESN’T BIAS THEM???
MEDICAL SCHOOLS DO RECEIVE GRANTS AND OTHER FUNDS FROM INDUSTRY; BUT ALSO FROM VARIOUS NON-PROFITS, CHARITIES, AND GOVERNMENT. IT IS STUPID TO ASSUME BECAUSE ONE HAS AT SOME TIME RECEIVED MONEY FROM A MEMBER OF SOME INDUSTRY OR WORKS AT AN INSTITUTION THAT HAS THAT AUTOMATICALLY ONE IGNORES ONES TRAINING, SCIENCE, ANY CONSIDERATION FOR ONES FELLOW MAN AND LIES. THE LIE IS PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THIS.
IN SCIENCE, SOMETHING THESE MORONS DON’T UNDERSTAND, WE LOOK AT METHODOLOGY, ETC. NOT THE PERSON. ONLY IF ONE REALLY CAN’T REFUTE THE ACTUAL SCIENCE, DO ASSHOLES RESORT TO AD HOMINEM ATTACKS.
Robert Kennedy Jr. and other, are they antivaxxers? All they want is better safety tests? But they ignore, discount, etc. that vaccines are probably the safest product on the market. The FDA protocols for approving a vaccine, including visits to production facilities before and after approval, the after market surveillance, etc. and all we know about immunology, microbiology, etc. makes vaccines the safest product on the market.
However, as opposed to the black and white world of antivaxxers, vaccines don’t always confer 100% protection, may require boosters, and often have mild adverse reactions and RARE serious adverse reactions. The question comes down to benefits vs costs and the ratio exponentially favors the benefits. So, antivaxxers only want a fantasy world where vaccines confer 100% protection, last a lifetime, and don’t even cause minor discomforts like a sore arm, short time low grade fever, etc.
Seat belts only reduce the risk of death and serious injury by about 50%. And there have been cases where people have suffered bladder, kidney, and other damage, even a couple of deaths when the seatbelt edge dug in. I guess we should either abandon seatbelts or, at least, not make them mandatory. But then if someone is seriously injured and without health coverage, the law requires emergency treatment, so who pays. And if it is a young person, handicapped for life, should they suffer for a youthful foolishness? I, for one, don’t think so.
No one expects 100% effectiveness with no side effects, or rather, no one I’ve spoken to on the topic does. What many people hope for is the right to choose what goes into their own and their children’s bodies, without being publicly shamed and stigmatized. We all acknowledge there is risk involved here, and some think it higher than others. Where there’s risk, there should be choice. And the constant propagandist approach from “pro-vaxxers” has only led to animosity from both sides of the discussion.
There is virtually zero expression of the succinct and direct anti-vax concerns and questions in the mainstream media outlets. We’ve all heard the word “anti-vax” ad-nauseam lately, but can many pro-vaxxers even clearly state the main arguments from the anti-vax side? I would wager no, because they’ve not been voiced. It’s just the ramblings of crazy people, pay no attention. You either want everyone “immunized” or your an enemy of the state. But what about addressing the actual content of the concerns being raised. I haven’t yet heard any mainstream pundits voice these concerns accurately, even if only to tear them down point by point immediately after. It’s almost as if they’re afraid to have these points heard at all. Can’t have people asking questions like “does it really make sense that our best hope for preventing death from infectious diseases is to pump millions of gallons of untested concoctions directly into the blood of the global population and just hope for the best? Must there not be a better, more strategic, less irreversible approach?”
That’s what makes me suspicious. Prove me wrong, please!
Dear Orac, where are YOUR citations?? This all comes off like “he said, she said” to me. Frankly, your written meanderings here are very disappointing to me. As a sincere seeker of truth, I find it disheartening that after sorting through many, many links, trying to find some convincing counter arguments and cited facts to combat the outrageous claims in this vignette, that your critique here is basically the only thing I could find, and it’s just a regurgitation of the same flawed logic and lack of hard evidence that always comes from the medical establishment: label people as “anti-vax” and move on. Where are your references? Where are your hard examples disproving some of the most disturbing claims in this film? You’re not doing anyone a service by escalating the finger pointing but leaving a huge vacuum where real facts and records should be.
Waste of time reading this “review”. Very biased, no real valuable or new information. If “anti-vaxxers” (a.k.a., pro informed consent and pro actual published test results) are so obviously wrong, why can’t you easily show us how and why? Rather than trying to simply dismiss and deny their perspective, how about providing some real counter arguments. Bad.
I just stumbled on your page after my brother posted that video on my FB feed. I have some close friends who are health care providers and ID specialists. I will listen to them, not some random YouTube video. I like what you say about why people grasp to these conspiracies. I think that defines my brother. Thank you for continuing the good fight. I find all these conspiracy theories maddening in ordinary times, now they’re full out deadly and need to be called out.
“hydroxychloroquine probably doesn’t work”- this blogs author Oroc
Tell it to the patients of these doctors….quack
It is quite apparent that Judy Mikovits, Kent Heckenloony, and Mikki Willis sensed that Orac was a danger to their income stream from the planned grift of the terminally gullible via their propaganda video and sent their flying monkeys to hilariously drool all over the RI discussion board.
You shouldn’t feel too superiour, Orac, ZDogg is getting quite the response from the knuckledraggers as well… 12,000+ comments on his“Plandemic” Youtube rebut. The drool is so deep over there you’d better don boots before entering.
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Well… what else are you going to do when you are a failed thieving criminal fraud of a scientist who is so dishonest she manufactured data for her retracted “study”.
Talk about dishonest… but in woo-woo land she is some sort of hero just like the fraud Wakefield, et al. Honest scientists are reviled in the alt-med anti-science universe.
Have fun.
** I also note a lot of them have a lot of trouble with the English language… perhaps they should try their native Russian…
@ Mike
You write: “Are you aware that Mercury, which is in many vaccines (fact), is the second most toxic substance on the periodic table(fact)?”
First, mercury, actually thimerosal which is only 50% mercury, was removed from all vaccines except flu vaccine 20 years ago. And one can get flu vaccine without thimerosal.
Second, it was NEVER in MMR vaccine or other attenuated vaccines, so only in about half of childhood vaccines.
Third, mercury is ubiquitous in the environment. We get much more from air we breath, water and food we imbibe, and minor abrasions to skin.
Fourth, as Paracelsus said in the 15th Century, “the dose makes the poison.” The amounts in vaccines prior to 20 years ago was trace amounts.
Fifth, the planet Earth when bacteria first arose had 100 or more fold mercury than today. For those who believe in Evolution, starting with bacteria, living organisms developed systems to cope with mercury and other toxic substances, including excreting, transforming, sequestering.
So, not in vaccines today; but when in vaccines, in trace amounts, much lower than what we get from environment, so, you are just one more ill-informed person.
Sixth, mercury is not second most toxic substance on earth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose
Second most toxic substance is tetanus toxin, 500 times more toxic than mercury. My guess is that you want children be poisoned by it, in vain attempt to acquire natural immunity
@ Aarno
mercury is not second most toxic substance on earth
Some antivaxers eventually got that. Now they substitute “on earth” by “in the periodic table”, as in one of the first comments (for a given value of “first”).
Still not true. Letting aside that the mercury in some vaccine is not elemental put part of a bigger assembly (a.k.a. molecules), if we go for elemental atoms being injected/ingested, I would be hard-pressed to choose between the first column (lithium, sodium…) and the halogene column (fluor, chlore…) as the most reactive/dangerous.
Randall Monroe (from XKCD), with some help from Derek Lowe, explored the ‘What if’ we built a ‘wall’ of the periodic table.
https://englishatlc.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/randall-munroe-periodic-wall-of-elements.pdf
”I’m looking for cold, hard truth, man!…How can you be so sure that seemingly reasonable claims put forth by anti-vaxxers are all lies?”
If their lips are moving or their fingers are typing, it’s a safe bet they’re not putting out anything remotely close to ”cold, hard truth”.
A few helpful hints for Truth Seeker as he continues on his Truth-Seeking Journey:
You can access many good articles on this very website that refute antivax nonsense, with abundant references to the scientific literature.
You can similarly find lots of excellent takedowns of antivaccine foolishness on the website Science-Based Medicine, with numerous scientific literature references.
For a comprehensive journey back out the rabbit hole of antivax idiocy, here’s a nice compilation by a physician, refuting antivax memes, again with lots and lots of scientific references. Remember, hyperlinks are your friend.
http://docbastard.net/2019/04/vaccine-mythbusting.html
Try not to be upset if you encounter a snarky tone here and there. All these folks have experienced the same bad antivax arguments and bogus claims over and over and over again, despite patiently explaining where antivaxers have it wrong. It wears on you after awhile.
DID THE SARS-COV-2 ESCAPE FROM A CHINESE LAB? This is a repeat of a comment I posted on a previous ORAC article.
From a recent article by Ed Yong (2020 Apr 29). “Why the Coronavirus Is So Confusing: A guide to making sense of a problem that is now too big for any one person to fully comprehend.” The Atlantic. Available at:https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/pandemic-confusing-uncertainty/610819/
Note that he links to a number of excellent articles, including the two that the following is based on:
“scientists have also identified about 500 other coronaviruses among China’s many bat species. “There will be many more—I think it’s safe to say tens of thousands,” says Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, who has led that work. Laboratory experiments show that some of these new viruses could potentially infect humans. SARS-CoV-2 likely came from a bat, too.
It seems unlikely that a random bat virus should somehow jump into a susceptible human. But when you consider millions of people, in regular contact with millions of bats, which carry tens of thousands of new viruses, vanishingly improbable events become probable ones. In 2015, Daszak’s team found that 3 percent of people from four Chinese villages that are close to bat caves had antibodies that indicated a previous encounter with SARS-like coronaviruses. “Bats fly out every night over their houses. Some of them shelter from rain in caves, or collect guano for fertilizer,” Daszak says. “If you extrapolate up to the rural population, across the region where the bats that carry these viruses live, you’re talking 1 [million] to 7 million people a year exposed.” Most of these infections likely go nowhere. It takes just one to trigger an epidemic.”
So, 3 percent of people had antibodies to bat corona viruses. As the above explains, it is quite probable that the current virus came from someone infected by a bat. Now, since sequencing of the current SARS-Cov-2 has found its genome quite close to the 2003 SARS virus and to several bat coronavirus genomes, goes against your sick need to blame the Chinese. A coincidence is not even close to any type of proof, except in the mind of a moron like you looking to place blame. And there is a great book on “coincidences”: David J. Hand (2014). “The Improbability Principle: Why Coincidences, Miracles, and Rare Events Happen Every Day.” Basically, what someone might think is a rare coincidence isn’t.
And, the major blame for what is happening in the U.S. is a combination of Trump and overall American unappreciation for Public Health and, thus, pandemic preparedness. When it comes to cutting funding, first to go.
@ “Jesus Christ follower”: You are a sick deluded walking shitpile.
I apologize for not responding sooner, but this Jew was busy poisoning wells, sticking needles into host wafers to make them scream, and baking matzahs with the blood of Christian babies.
As my Irish friend would say, “Jesus wept.”
This blog lacks science and reeks of ego, I can literally post hundreds of Studies showing links of vaccines to autism but this blogger repeats mainstream articles that there is none. He shows little science at all.
” Babies born in America are less likely to reach their first birthday than babies born in other wealthy countries in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), a new study found.
Compared to 19 similar OECD countries, U.S. babies were three times more likely to die from extreme immaturity and 2.3 times more likely to experience sudden infant death syndrome between 2001 and 2010, the most recent years for which comparable data is available across all the countries. If the U.S. had kept pace with the OECD’s overall decline in infant mortality since 1960, that would have resulted in about 300,000 fewer infant deaths in America over the course of 50 years, the report found.” – Time
U.S. FEDERAL COURT: VACCINES CAUSE SUDDEN INFANT DEATH SYNDROME (SIDS)
“it is more likely than not that the vaccines played a substantial causal role in the death of J.B. without the effect of which he would not have died. The role of inflammatory cytokines as neuro-modulators in the infant medulla has been well described and is likely the reason for “a significant number of SIDS deaths”
1 child in 4,000 will die from the Pediarix vaccine. The manufacturer said so!
That equates to 1 dead child in 4,000 vaccinated with Pediarix.
Doctors will recite what they’ve been taught in pharmaceutical school—that vaccines injuries and deaths are 1-in-a-million. Well, here’s the vaccine manufacturer’s own document disputing that number by stating that their product has killed 1-in-4,000 children during research trials. And still it was approved by the FDA!”
https://www.learntherisk.org/sids/
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2533334793367729&id=100000737007811
Sids largely eradicated in japan and Sweden after withdrawal of the pertussis vaccine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364648/
History of Infant Mortality Rates.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/#bibr25-0960327111407644
SIDS after hexavalent vaccine.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18538957
Infant mortality and vaccine schedule.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470243/pdf/envhper00326-0221.pdf
Adverse effects on vaccinating preemies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2082954/table/tbl2/
Infant mortality and vaccines study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
Correlation between the number of infant deaths and the number of vaccines.
http://het.sagepub.com/content/31/10/1012.abstract
Both twins die after vaccines.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17654772
“babies died at a rate nearly eight times greater than normal within 3 days after getting a DPT vaccination.”
“Vaccinated babies died at a higher rate than non-vaccinated babies”
“African–American infants are at greater risk of dying relative to White infants…”
??????
Fake news! Your false claim to have debunked the “myth” that medical error are the 3rd leading cause of death, is in fact, a lie. And I picked the claim that you seemed most proud of debunking to investigate.
Here’s a link to a faith based source you can trust proving it:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html
Compare that to your hysterical indoctrinated ranting:
“At this point, I can’t resist mentioning that medical error is not the third leading cause of death. Not even close. That’s a myth that just won’t die. (It’s my duty to point that out any time someone parrots that idiocy.)”
If you can be so wrong with such a simple fact, maybe it’s time for a new career? Or at least switch to psychology and understand the concept of “projecting.” Sad, (and sick) guy!
Hahahaha! A news article? Sorry, that proves nothing. Since you asked, though…
https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2016/05/16/do-medical-errors-really-kill-a-quarter-of-a-million-people-a-year-in-the-us/
https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2019/02/13/medical-errors-2019/
https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2020/02/10/medical-error-third-most-common-cause-of-death/
You won’t bother to read them, of course, but my posts are more “fact-based” than your citation. Of course, I linked to two of these posts in the very sentence you quote. You obviously didn’t bother to click on the links, silly person.
Steven Novella MD has also rebutted the Plandemic video.
https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/skeptical-of-plandemic/
She is also confident that COVID-19 was cooked up in a lab. Her evidence – nada. In fact it looks pretty clear that the virus was not artificially made. It also looks like it emerged from the wet markets of Wuhan, but we cannot currently rule out an accidental lab release (although not lab created).
The bottom line is that Mikovits has this incredible theory that the way we manufacture vaccines is actually causing lots of chronic illness. She was unable to scientifically make her case, however. Her blockbuster study was an abject failure, and she was scientifically humiliated. She now lives on the fringe, a darling of the anti-vaccine movement, where her narrative is merging with theirs, and with broader deep state, anti-mainstream medicine conspiracy narratives. In my opinion, based upon all these dubious claims and her history, she has absolutely no credibility. The claims she makes in the video are either demonstrably wrong, or wild speculation. The video itself is also deceptive in many ways.
My sense is that people are just overloaded, and are responding emotionally to this propaganda film
This piece of writing is not compelling. Statements made seem ‘short sighted’ (ie: ignorant) … I wanted to vomit when the writer said that no place has collapsed. I guess he/she doesn’t understand money or the economic impact of the Federal Reserve becoming the buyer and lender of last resort. The millions of people who lost their businesses or income suddenly. The tremendous burden that all this stimulus money will put on the average citizen. Supply chain disruptions. Etc. …. The idea that this might have happened for a nefarious purpose is worth looking into since the mainstream is going to a heck of a lot of trouble to shut down an contrary opinions, clearly manipulating death tolls, and using financial incentives to get patients treatment that hurt rather than help. … And don’t forget that many of the players influencing policy decisions do not have clean hands (meaning that are financially interested parties) — which is a conflict of interest and should disqualify them: Fauci, Gates, et al.
Perhaps you should actually read the article before commenting. This behavior of not reading an article, not mentioning what was written in error and using lots of off topic claims is quite common:http://thesciencepost.com/study-70-of-facebook-commenters-only-read-the-headline/
Perhaps the confusion regarding RFK, Jr is because people don’t realize that comparing vaccines to the Holocaust is not a compliment to vaccines?
Whew! What did I just read?
I mean the comments, not the blog post. It’s as if someone called in the flying monkey brigade to the post. I wonder who could do that? Who’s done that before?
Conspiracy theories comes from a term Made up by the CIA to cover up the truth that someone might find out the real truth. It started when they assassinated JFK…https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCthJtvcJZQgfCHG9QOWXjqw PLEASE WATCH ALL episodes 12 of them… I happen to believe dr Judy M.
Actually, the claim that the CIA invented the term “conspiracy theory” in order to discredit JFK assassination conspiracy theorists is in itself a conspiracy theory. The term “conspiracy theory” dates back to at least the late 1800s.https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/16/did-the-cia-invent-the-term-conspiracy-theory/
@ Chris
Yep, read “The Great Mortality”, even own it, just one of half dozen books I have on the plague. It also demonstrates the old adage: “none are so blind who fail to see.” Jews were dying en masse just as everyone else during the plague. Reminds me of a number of commenters who don’t really read what Orac or others write; but see what they want to see
First, I want to state that at this point, I have no reason to believe or disbelieve Dr. Mikovits’ story. I’m simply intrigued that it’s being silenced in social media, and I’d like to understand why.
I’m particularly interested in two of your statements. The first is made in the paragraph starting with “As you might imagine, the story sounds very fishy.” and ending with, “…because antivax grifters gonna grift.” Actually, as a reader discovering Dr. Mikovits’ film and any arguments for and against it for the first time this evening, I wouldn’t imagine her story sounding any particular way. This paragraph is where you needed to hit a home run for me by refuting her story with evidence, such as by establishing that she had a pre-existing axe to grind with Fauci. Instead, you led me to believe that because Dr. Fauci could have communicated his wishes in a different way, he did not communicate them in the way Dr. Mikovits described. To me, this is not a convincing argument. Also, I don’t think her mentioning Bill Gates in a discussion of big money transfers is refuted by your ad hominem. Even if the anti-vaccine position is incorrect, that Dr. Mikovits holds that position does not establish the invalidity of her description of the events presented in this paragraph of your essay. So, with no evidence to corroborate or refute this portion of her story, I’ll have to look elsewhere.
The second statement that interests me is the paragraph that starts, “Oh, and hydroxychloroquine makes an appearance, too, because of course it does.” My understanding is that although clinical trials have not been conducted, there is plentiful anecdotal evidence that it is helping people. Five people in my circle of friends and acquaintances became ill with COVID-19, and all survived. I know that four of them were treated with HCQ; i don’t know about the fifth. I know that three of them saw rapid improvement after being treated with HCQ; they believe it saved their lives. My understanding is that in spite of questionable studies, HCQ successes are widely reported. Unfortunately, the nature of HCQ reporting seems split along political lines–reports from conservative sources are nearly all optimistic, and reports from liberal sources are nearly all pessimistic. I am highly skeptical of both political extremes in our polarized society. My hunch is always that the truth lies somewhere between them. Therefore, I conclude that there is at least some valid anecdotal evidence in support of the use of HCQ. In my dictionary, “anecdotal” is not a synonym for “false”.
Again, anyone can say anything. I’ll keep searching for evidence to help me evaluate Dr. Mikovits’ claims.
Here you go:https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Mikovits+site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.virology.ws%2F
You can also listen to the older TWiV podcasts that discuss her work.
“In my dictionary, “anecdotal” is not a synonym for “false”.”
By the way anecdotes are actually also not data. The problem is that do not know if they are real or false. Learn the definitions of “subjective” and “objective” evidence, and why the latter is more important.
“My understanding is that although clinical trials have not been conducted, there is plentiful anecdotal evidence that it is helping people.”
There HAVE been controlled studies of hydrochloroquine. For instance, this one:https://www.contagionlive.com/news/preprint-results-of-hydroxychloroquine-use-among-va-health-systems- (This is a pre-print as the full article is still in the review process). I’ve heard a number of medical staff that have found the contrary as they hope to duplicate the positive anecdotal results and found, often, it made matters worse due to cardiac issues.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31607599/ She lied about the results of this project concerning respiratory virus interference among Dept. of Defence personnel. The conclusion was that the flu vaccine did not cause it. Why would I believe anything else she says.
Earlier today I kept telling people that Judy Mikovitz reminds me of Mercola – a guy that peddled(s?) pseudoscience against soybeans for The Weston A Price Foundation (heavily funded by big beef and dairy industries back when soy started becoming a big competitor). Haven’t paid attention to him in years.
In college, for about a year, I had a hobby of debunking his soy studies (we’re talking ~ 15 years ago), which as a vegetarian, ppl plagued me with. It annoyed me so much, I started digging. His studies on soy are embarrassingly grift. Maybe you’ve already addressed him (first time I’ve read your blog and I’m already digging it).
I highly recommend you read his papers on soy, just for the laughs. The methods horrific and his conclusions didn’t even follow. He literally pulled conclusions out of his…. The methods literally made zero sense. Like he just enjoyed watching rats with their ovaries removed, die of starvation (I’ll let you be the judge of whether or not my description is apt).
None of it was peer reviewed of course.
Anyway, I decided to type her name into YouTube and there it was: Mercola interviewing her a year ago. I nearly died laughing. I just cannot UNSEE that.
Grifters always find a way to find each other. I think trump may have praised her. ?
@ Winter Snow
Thanks for the heads up on Mercola’s article on Soy. Found it on Huff Post. Yep, soy must be unhealthy. I’ve been a vegetarian for 55 years, now mid-70s and consume lots of soy milk, veggie burgers of soy, tofu, etc. My blood pressure is low and also my total cholesterol and my BMI is 23. Probably combination of diet, exercise, and good genes; but I love my vanilla soy milk on cereal, tofu scramble, etc. If you know of any other articles related to Mercola and soy, please post.
By the way, there is an article on Science-Based Medicine about Mercola:
Joseph Albietz on October 16, 2009 “9 Reasons to
Completely Ignore Joseph Mercola”
Can you comment on why people I thought were knowledgeable are supporting her? Are there any valid points in her arguments? Why are some Naturopaths supporting her?
Dave Corsello: “I am highly skeptical of both political extremes in our polarized society. My hunch is always that the truth lies somewhere between them.”
I’m highly skeptical of the idea that truth in science and medicine is found in a magical middle ground between evidence-based practice and flaming woo-nuttery.
Thanks for your reply. Please demonstrate: 1) that Dr. Mikovits’ description of how Dr. Fauci obtained her report is false; 2) that anecdotal evidence for success with HCQ is invalid; and 3) that partisan politics plays no part in popular views of HCQ. “Woo-nuttery” sounds like ad hominem to me. But I could be mistaken; perhaps its power as a pejorative is sufficient to free it from the rules of logic.
1) It’s up to Mikovits and her supporters to demonstrate her claims about Fauci have validity. They have failed to do so.
2) The hype about hydroxychloroquine has fallen far short of reality, as you’d know if you had been paying attention.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/hydroxychloroquine-fails-to-help-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-in-us-government-funded-study.html
3) Partisan politics undoubtedly has had a role in the promotion of hydroxychloroquine (with Trump and his fans endorsing it as a quick way out of the pandemic), but actual science is far less favorable.
4) Woo-nuttery is a relatively kind term for the conspiracy blather Mikovits et al are pumping out.
Again, there isn’t a safe and reliable ground midway between a) sound science and evidence-based medical practice, and b) flaming bullshit.
Sorry about the “ad hominem”. 🙂
But first you must demonstrate you can read and understand studies. Show us all the PubMed indexed studies on HCQ published in 2020 that show it works well.
Then demonstrate you can search a website, an example:https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/?s=hydroxychloroquine+coronavirus
Because your demands are ridiculous and continue to show that you do not understand how science works.
You demands are ridiculous and continue to show you do not know how this science stuff works. Unfortunately politics do get in the way of science, often with very bad results. Essentially lawyers should not make policies based on the “feelings.”
Right now you should show us all the PubMed indexed studies published in 2020 that show HCQ has a positive impact on the present pandemic. We require actual factual scientific evidence, not a bunch of random anecdotes.
Perhaps you should also demonstrate that you can navigate a blog you are commenting on. For example, how to use its search function:https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/?s=hydroxychloroquine+coronavirus
I would like to see you having a debate on vaccines with Dr Judy Mikovitz and see who knows better. Did we see any of your discoveries in any magazines ? please enlighten us. The attempt to descredit her with 2 cents arguments shows how scared you are that People know the truth about vaccine and the corruption of BIP PHARMA . AND yes VACCINES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH AUTISM. Subject closed !
Dangerous Bacon, regarding your point #1, of course, the burden of proof is on Dr. Mikovits. I think I made that clear in my original post. My point is simply that on two central arguments, the original post in this thread fails to invalidate her claims. Regarding your point #2, I would agree that HCQ has not been proven effective against COVID-19 (i.e., the drug has not passed clinical trials for this use). And, last I read, it has been reported to be ineffective in cases of advanced COVID disease. But you haven’t established that favorable anecdotal evidence is false. Again, of the 5 people I know who were infected, 3 showed rapid, dramatic improvement in symptoms as a result of HCQ. Regarding your point #3, of course, partisan attitudes towards HCQ run both ways. I made this clear in my original post. What I find particularly disappointing about left-leaning criticism of HCQ is that it appears to prefer political advantage over reported relief of human suffering. Regarding your point #4 and your closing remarks, your pejoratives simply do not enhance your logical position. You might find this information helpful as you put together future arguments:https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/academic_writing/logic_in_argumentative_writing/fallacies.html
. . . But you haven’t established that favorable anecdotal evidence is false. Again, of the 5 people I know who were infected, 3 showed rapid, dramatic improvement in symptoms as a result of HCQ.
It has not been established that HCQ was the proximate cause of their improvement. Just because 3 of 5 did get better after after having it does not mean they did so because of it. That’s what trials determine. If you care to look at this article (https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/hydroxychloroquine-ebm-sbm/), it links to several reputable studies and is much better at explaining than I am.
Poor Dave Corsello.
“Of course the burden of proof is on Dr. Mikovits. I indicated that I understand this in my original post. My point here is that the original post in this thread fails to invalidate her description of how Dr. Fauci received her report.”
The meaning of the phrase “burden of proof” sadly eludes you.
It’s nifty that anecdotes support use of hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19 infection. You can find voluminous anecdotes on the Internet that support drinking or bathing in MMS (industrial bleach), using Rife machines and consuming one’s own urine. The point (which also escapes you) is that when anecdotes are unsupported or flatly contradicted by science, rational people go with the science.
Dave: “What disturbs me about left-leaning views on the drug is that they appear to favor political advantage over compassion for human suffering”
Dave: “Sorry, your pejoratives simply do not strengthen your position.”
🙂
“There are many here among us
Who feel your posts are but a joke”
Dangerous Bacon: “The meaning of the phrase “burden of proof” sadly eludes you”
Please explain.
DB: “It’s nifty that anecdotes support use of hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19 infection. You can find voluminous anecdotes on the Internet that support drinking or bathing in MMS (industrial bleach), using Rife machines and consuming one’s own urine. The point (which also escapes you) is that when anecdotes are unsupported or flatly contradicted by science, rational people go with the science.”
Now we’re getting somewhere. Yes, please explain how anecdotal evidence, reported by medical doctors and acknowledged by Dr. Fauci early on, that HCQ has been found to be effective in treating COVID-19 is refuted by science. I’m already aware of the heart arrhythmia side effect and that it’s been found to be ineffective with advanced COVID disease. I’m also aware that in one study, patients treated with hydroxychloroquine had a higher rate of death than those who weren’t treated with the drug. But I’m also aware that that study was not a randomized clinical trial. What are your thoughts on this report of positive results?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-covid-19-treatment-turkey/
And again, what are your thoughts regarding 3 out of 5 of my acquaintances who were infected seeing rapid improvement immediately after beginning HCQ treatment?
I don’t believe it’s reasonable to state at this point that anecdotes are unsupported or flatly contradicted by science where HCQ is concerned. If that were the case, why would Novartis have launched a Phase III trial in late April?
https://www.genengnews.com/news/novartis-plans-phase-iii-trial-of-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/
Are the reports on bleach and urine you mentioned also made by medical doctors and acknowledged by Fauci? If so, I’m interested. Please provide sources.
DB: “Dave: “What disturbs me about left-leaning views on the drug is that they appear to favor political advantage over compassion for human suffering”
Dave: “Sorry, your pejoratives simply do not strengthen your position.”
Agreed. That was unnecessarily pejorative. I’ll rephrase. Optimistic and pessimistic views regarding HCQ fall along political party lines, but politics has no place in scientific discussion. Further, I believe that a compassionate view of human suffering should inspire us to be thankful that success with HCQ is often reported. Until the Novartis trial is completed, all of us have probably jumped the gun by supporting or not supporting the use of HCQ for COVID-19 and exposed not rational devotion to science, but political bias.
Here’s an interesting article on political polarization over HCQ:
DB: “There are many here among us Who feel your posts are but a joke”
Yeah, I get it. These discussions can be very frustrating, and at some point it becomes easier to indirectly ask someone to leave than to address their arguments with respect and logical refutations. But I have better hopes for you, my friend.
[…] defy science and have been debunked by dozens of doctors and other leading experts who have also pointed out Mikovits’ past. “The doctor in the video is considered a charlatan in the research community. […]
I wouldn’t be too confident Anthony Fauci has to produce emails between him and WHO.. If he fails to do so, that just debunks your theory. As Judy Mikovits named Fauci
The suit was filed after HHS failed to respond to an April 1, 2020, FOIA request seeking:
Communications between Dr. Fauci and Deputy Director Lane and World Health Organization officials concerning the novel coronavirus.
Communications of Dr. Fauci and Deputy Director Lane concerning WHO, WHO official Bruce Aylward, WHO Director General Tedros Anhanom, and China.
The time period for the request is January 1, 2020 to April 1, 2020.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/fauci-who-records/
Here’s the chance for Fauci to clear his name, as Judy Mikovits has named him .
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit on behalf of the Daily Caller News Foundation against the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) for communications and other records of National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci and Deputy Director H. Clifford Lane with and about the World Health Organization (WHO) concerning the novel coronavirus (Daily Caller News Foundation v. U.S. Department Justice (No. 1:20-cv-01149)).
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/fauci-who-records/
We will see Anthony Fauci responds with the emails, Judy Mikovits has named Fauci.
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit on behalf of the Daily Caller News Foundation against the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) for communications and other records of National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci and Deputy Director H. Clifford Lane with and about the World Health Organization (WHO) concerning the novel coronavirus (Daily Caller News Foundation v. U.S. Department Justice (No. 1:20-cv-01149)).
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/fauci-who-records/
Chris Preston, Novartis is conducting a trial because there’s evidence to warrant it. Evidence exists in the form of limited trials and anecdotes. Are you disputing that there is anecdotal evidence or that anecdotal evidence is science? You would be incorrect in either case. Novartis will prove whether or not it’s worthy of FDA approval. My hunch, knowing that the drug was effective for my friends, is that it will be approved. If not, then my hunch will have been wrong. Pretty simple. That’s the way science works, hypotheses and experiments.
If you understood how science works you would not say that you know the drug was effective for your friends. You don’t know it. You believe it. There is no solid evidence as yet that it works as claimed and is safe for Covid19.
You said you were going to look elsewhere for information. Come up with anything yet?
I found the following link interesting:
http://matthewremski.com/wordpress/the-plandemic-spectacle-a-viral-loop-of-emotional-control/
I love how these, “Follow the money!” people never seem to follow the money when it comes to quacks selling magick healing crystals and colloidal silver potions. As if these quacks are giving away their woo for free.
[…] Rebuttal to Plandemic, carefully annotated, from fire and emergency management educator Jim Chaffee https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QwU4jcRw-qb77BLCLs99af05S1mL2E2vUz2x2M1396U/preview?pru=AAABchiJGww*PoZA8X8uDFFVumD4UBZEzg ~ ~ ~ Politifact: “Fact-checking ‘Plandemic’: A documentary full of false conspiracy theories about the coronavirus.” ~ ~ ~ Judy Mikovits in Plandemic: An antivax conspiracy theorist becomes a COVID-19 grifter: […]
This the news at the moment. Where’s the MSM ? Anthony Fauci will be exposed …
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit on behalf of the Daily Caller News Foundation against the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) for communications and other records of National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci and Deputy Director H. Clifford Lane with and about the World Health Organization (WHO) concerning the novel coronavirus (Daily Caller News Foundation v. U.S. Department Justice (No. 1:20-cv-01149)).
The suit was filed after HHS failed to respond to an April 1, 2020, FOIA request seeking:
Communications between Dr. Fauci and Deputy Director Lane and World Health Organization officials concerning the novel coronavirus.
Communications of Dr. Fauci and Deputy Director Lane concerning WHO, WHO official Bruce Aylward, WHO Director General Tedros Anhanom, and China.
The time period for the request is January 1, 2020 to April 1, 2020.
The coonection between Mikovits’ rich fantasy life and the activities of thefar-right rat-fuckers at Judicial Watch is not entirely clear, except that both are devoted to the cause of removing anyone of any competence from a public-health role during a time of plague.
Perhaps you are convinced that in his correspondence with WHO, Dr Fauci would have taken the time to describe how he magically appeared in Ruscetti’s laboratory, decades earlier, unseen by anyone else, to browbeat the young Mikowitz.
It might help to understand the drive behind David Gorski’s blogging this post. An interesting read..
https://www.ageofautism.com/2010/06/david-gorskis-financial-pharma-ties-what-he-didnt-tell-you.html
Thanx Nicole Nunya-Bidniz for your research. As you see this is all back up by research links. Quit letting the media tell you. Please do your own research.
““For Those Who Doubt the Plandemic Movie
Get it straight on some of the “facts” going around claiming to have “debunked” the movie, which are being regurgitated by many who prefer to remain asleep and won’t put the effort in to research things themselves.
SOURCE LINKS INCLUDED.
Here is what was found along with all of the supporting sources.
1. Dr. Anthony Fauci has worked at the National Institute of Health (NIH) since 1968 and has been a Director with the organization since 1984, “both as a scientist and as the head of the NIAID at the NIH”. A simple Wikipedia search resolved that one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci
2. The NIH was one of the institutions funding the original study published in 10/23/2009, which Dr. Mikovits participated in and makes reference to in the Plandemic movie. Dr. Fauci worked at and continues to work at the NIH, one of the primary financial contributors to the study as one of it’s most senior directors, so you can indeed say that Dr. Judy Mikovits was in fact working for Dr. Fauci. I have downloaded the complete original study and saved for you to access here (highlights on page 3 denote Dr. Judy Mikovits’s participation and her employing firm) (highlights on page 6 indicate the institutions which provided the funding for the study):
https://drive.google.com/open…
3. The study was challenged in 2010, when other researches could not replicate their findings and in September 2010, the original team, inclusive of Dr. Judy Mikovits issued an official response supporting their work.
https://drive.google.com/open…
4. After which the original study was partially and then subsequently fully retracted (a very rare move in science). The partial retraction document states that two of the co-authors, Robert Silverman and Das Gupta (whom the original study listed as working for the Department of Cancer Biology) re-analyzed the samples they used and discovered that they had been contaminated. Please refer back to the first link provided herein, for item #1 showing the original study, indicates on the document that it has since been retracted.
5. That she was arrested and a quote from the prosecuting district attorney, that said the charges were dropped because “there were issues with the witnesses”.
https://www.sciencemag.org/…/criminal-charges-dropped…
6. In September 2012, Dr. Judy Mikovits and a team of other scientists conducted another study replicating the original one and published their findings, ultimately resolving the scientific communities dispute over the original work.
https://twp.duke.edu/…/file-attachments/1441.full_.pdf
https://www.sciencemag.org/…/final-study-confirms-virus…
https://mbio.asm.org/content/3/5/e00266-12
7. As previously shared in another post, Dr. Fauci does in fact hold a large number of patents related to HIV (as Dr. Judy Mikovits states in the video). He also holds numerous patents related to the Novel Coronavirus.
https://patents.justia.com/search?q=Anthony+Fauci
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB113383825463714813
Other Interesting and Related Facts:
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has appointed Dr. Anthony Fauci to their Vaccination Action Plan.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/…/Global-Health-Leaders…
Bill Gates personally owns a number vaccine related patents (amongst many other interesting and unrelated patents):
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/william-gates
Pirbright, a company funded by The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation owns European protecting replication of a variant gene of an avian infectious bronchitis virus.
European Patent# 3 172 319 B1https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document…
Here is proof that Pirbright is in fact funded by The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/…/2013/11/OPP1098099
Pirbright also a US patent on the Coronavirus (you will need to scroll down quite a bit to see the owner and inventor they really covered every base on this patent.
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701
Vanderbilt University owns a large number of Coronavirus vaccine patents:
https://patents.justia.com/patent/7452542
Dr. Anthony Fauci and the Director of Vanderbilt University go back..
Here you see them lobbying together:https://news.vumc.org/tag/anthony-fauci/
Here it mentions how they went to college together:
https://news.vumc.org/tag/anthony-fauci/
Also as previously shared in another post, the polio vaccines the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation tested on children in the Africa, causing an outbreak of Polio from the vaccine itself and paralysis on the children.
https://thebulletin.org/…/vaccine-causing-polio-in…/ “
^Oh, kewl:
“CV19 is a classic depopulation aka “eugenics” event. Bob Bows lays out a meticulous evidentiary trail”
“so you can indeed say that Dr. Judy Mikovits was in fact working for Dr. Fauci”
I was a clerk in a VA hospital for 7 years, so you can say I worked for Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and Ronald Reagan. I worked at a New York City public hospital for a time, so I was in fact working for Rudy Giuliani and David Dinkins.
Dr. Fauci’s patents: “The main section of the executive order provides that the government shall obtain all rights to any invention made by an employee if any one of the following conditions applies: the invention is made during working hours; the invention is made using either government facilities, equipment, etc., or is made with the help of another government employee who is on official duty; or the invention relates to the official duties of the inventor.” The Federal Funding of R&D: Who Gets the Patent Rights?https://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/matters/matters-9004.html
It doesn’t matter if the patents are in his name. The rights are held by the United States, unless “the government is not required to take title if it would be inequitable. For example, if the invention was made by an employee with minimal use of government time or materials, the government does not have to take title. Similarly, the government is not required to take title when it has insufficient interest in the invention. Even if the government has the right to take title but elects not to, it retains a nonexclusive, irrevocable, royalty- free license with the power to grant licenses to others for all government purposes.”
6. In September 2012, Dr. Judy Mikovits and a team of other scientists conducted another study replicating the original one and published their findings, ultimately resolving the scientific communities dispute over the original work.
https://twp.duke.edu/…/file-attachments/1441.full_.pdf
https://www.sciencemag.org/…/final-study-confirms-virus…
https://mbio.asm.org/content/3/5/e00266-12
Dude, you have engarbaged the links, or copy-pasted them from some source where they were already engarbaged. It is clear that you can’t have read the relevant papers before puking up this paragraph, or you might have noticed that the Sepember 2012 paper in Sciencecontradicted the 2009 paper.
The full, ungarbaged titlemight have been a fucking giveaway:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/09/final-study-confirms-virus-not-implicated-chronic-fatigue-syndrome
How sad is this now? Very sad.
Thanx Nicole Nunya-Bidniz for your research. As you see this is all back up by research links. Quit letting the media tell you. Please do your own research.
In the unlikely event that anyone cares, Enid McBride has proven her ability to conduct her own research by puking up a bullet-pointed stream of lies, verbatim, fromhttps://www.dotcomnieuws.com/corona/for-those-who-doubt-the-plandemic-movie/
This combination of mendacity and laziness is just depressing.
Dear Enid McBride,
Thank you so very much for posting your comment containing such a thorough list of facts related to the Judy Mikovits video. I too am very interested at getting to the “TRUTH” of the matter…
However, some of the links you have included within your comment which were truncated and followed by an ellipsis which are the three periods (. . .) are broken links and the web pages cannot be found. Is it possible for you to email me your article containing the “full links addresses”?
Thank you again so very much for this most informative comment you have invested your time for sharing with the world.
Please send me your article with the “full link addresses” via email…
My email address is[email protected]
Have a wonderful day, Enid.
Jo Ro
2020 0513 12:06 PM
Here is another rebuttal to the Mikovits video from Science Magazine:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
I have copied below the point-by-point commentary from that article, for those of you who can’t, or won’t, access the link above. The Interviewer below refers to the interviewer in the Mikovits video:
Below are some of the video’s main claims and allegations, along with the facts.
Interviewer: Dr. Judy Mikovits has been called one of the most accomplished scientists of her generation.
Mikovits had authored 40 scientific papers and wasn’t widely known in the scientific community before she published the 2009 Science paper claiming a link between a new retrovirus and CFS. The paper was later proven erroneous and retracted.
Interviewer: Her 1991 doctoral thesis revolutionized the treatment of HIV/AIDS.
Mikovits’s Ph.D. thesis, “Negative Regulation of HIV Expression in Monocytes,” had no discernible impact on the treatment of HIV/AIDS.
Interviewer: At the height of her career, Dr. Mikovits published a blockbuster article in the journal Science. The controversial article sent shock waves through the scientific community, as it revealed that the common use of animal and human fetal tissues was unleashing devastating plagues of chronic diseases.
The paper revealed nothing of the sort; it only claimed to show a link between one condition, CFS, and a mouse retrovirus.
Mikovits: I was held in jail, with no charges.
The district attorney in Washoe county, Nevada, filed a criminal complaint against Mikovits that charged her with illegally taking computer data and related property from WPI. The charges were dropped, in part because of legal troubles faced by her former employer.
Mikovits: Heads of our entire HHS [Department of Health and Human Services] colluded and destroyed my reputation and the Department of Justice and the [Federal Bureau of Investigation] sat on it, and kept that case under seal.
Mikovits has presented no direct evidence that HHS heads colluded against her.
Mikovits: [Fauci] directed the cover-up. And in fact, everybody else was paid off, and paid off big time, millions of dollars in funding from Tony Fauci and … the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. These investigators that committed the fraud, continue to this day to be paid big time by the NIAID.
It’s not clear which fraud and what cover-up Mikovits is talking about exactly. There is no evidence that Fauci was involved in a cover-up or that anyone was paid off with funding from him or his institute. No one has been charged with fraud in relation to Mikovits’s allegations.
Mikovits: It started really when I was 25 years old, and I was part of the team that isolated HIV from the saliva and blood of the patients from France where [virologist Luc] Montagnier had originally isolated the virus. … Fauci holds up the publication of the paper for several months while Robert Gallo writes his own paper and takes all the credit, and of course patents are involved. This delay of the confirmation, you know, literally led to spreading the virus around, you know, killing millions.
At the time of HIV’s discovery, Mikovits was a lab technician in Francis Ruscetti’s lab at NCI and had yet to receive her Ph.D. There is no evidence that she was part of the team that first isolated the virus. Her first published paper, co-authored with Ruscetti, was on HIV and published in May 1986, 2 years after Science published four landmark papers that linked HIV (then called HTLV-III by Gallo’s lab) to AIDS. Ruscetti’s first paper on HIV appeared in August 1985. There is no evidence that Fauci held up either paper or that this led to the death of millions.
Interviewer: If we activate mandatory vaccines globally, I imagine these people stand to make hundreds of billions of dollars that own the vaccines.
Mikovits: And they’ll kill millions, as they already have with their vaccines. There is no vaccine currently on the schedule for any RNA virus that works.
Vaccines have not killed millions; they have saved millions of lives. Many vaccines that work against RNA viruses are on the market, including for influenza, measles, mumps, rubella, rabies, yellow fever, and Ebola.
Interviewer: So, I have to ask you, are you antivaccine?
Mikovits: Oh, absolutely not. In fact vaccine is immune therapy, just like interferon alpha is immune therapy, so I’m not antivaccine. My job is to develop immune therapies. That’s what vaccines are.
In another recent video, Mikovits is wearing a hat that says VAXXED II, which is a sequel to a film that links the mumps, measles, and rubella vaccine to autism, a debunked theory. She also repeats several claims made by people who are leading the antivaccine movement. In the PowerPoint presentation she sent to Science, she calls for an “immediate moratorium” on all vaccines.
Interviewer: Do you believe that this virus [SARS-CoV-2] was created in the laboratory?
Mikovits: I wouldn’t use the word created. But you can’t say naturally occurring if it was by way of the laboratory. So it’s very clear this virus was manipulated. This family of viruses was manipulated and studied in a laboratory where the animals were taken into the laboratory, and this is what was released, whether deliberate or not. That cannot be naturally occurring. Somebody didn’t go to a market, get a bat, the virus didn’t jump directly to humans. That’s not how it works. That’s accelerated viral evolution. If it was a natural occurrence, it would take up to 800 years to occur.
Scientific estimates suggest the closest virus to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is a bat coronavirus identified by the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). Its “distance” in evolutionary time to SARS-CoV-2 is about 20 to 80 years. There is no evidence this bat virus was manipulated.
Interviewer: And do you have any ideas of where this occurred?
Mikovits: Oh yeah, I’m sure it occurred between the North Carolina laboratories, Fort Detrick, the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, and the Wuhan laboratory.
There is no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 originated at WIV. NIAID’s funding of a U.S. group that works with the Wuhan lab has been stopped, which outraged many scientists.
Mikovits: Italy has a very old population. They’re very sick with inflammatory disorders. They got at the beginning of 2019 an untested new form of influenza vaccine that had four different strains of influenza, including the highly pathogenic H1N1. That vaccine was grown in a cell line, a dog cell line. Dogs have lots of coronaviruses.
There is no evidence that links any influenza vaccine, or a dog coronavirus, to Italy’s COVID-19 epidemic.
Mikovits: Wearing the mask literally activates your own virus. You’re getting sick from your own reactivated coronavirus expressions, and if it happens to be SARS-CoV-2, then you’ve got a big problem.
It’s not clear what Mikovits means by “coronavirus expressions.” There is no evidence that wearing a mask can activate viruses and make people sick.
Mikovits: Why would you close the beach? You’ve got sequences in the soil, in the sand. You’ve got healing microbes in the ocean in the salt water. That’s insanity.
It’s not clear what Mikovits means by sand or soil “sequences.” There is no evidence that microbes in the ocean can heal COVID-19 patients.
“Somebody didn’t go to a market, get a bat, the virus didn’t jump directly to humans. That’s not how it works.”
Oh, really?
“Prevalence and Genetic Diversity of Coronaviruses in Bats from China”https://jvi.asm.org/content/80/15/7481? That paper is from 2004.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/ This is from this year, but Dr Shi and her team have been at it for a long time. They found antibodies to batborne coronaviruses in humans living near bat caves.
“Bats Are Natural Reservoirs of SARS-like Coronaviruses”https://www.jstor.org/stable/3842715?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents That one is from 2005.
Somebody neglected her due dilligence.
very bizarre interview indeed. Unsure how someone who had any education in virology at all could say there are no vaccines that work against RNA viruses… she can’t be that dumb can she? Or did she misspeak? Or was the video edited? I cannot understand it.
But.
Fauci, which is what drew me to the video, is really the subject of my interest. I have questions for him:
Why did he say, after the election, that there was going to be a pandemic? To appear smart? Well, I’d like to know how he knew that.
And I have read that he illegally continued to give financial support to the Wuhan lab. Is this true? Why?
And why was he so hesitant about HCQ, but so enthusiastic about Remdesivir? I noticed that you, Orac, have posted about Remdesivir’s anemic abilities. I was wondering if you noticed Dr. Raoult (dear reader- please note he is considered by many to be the number one expert in the world on communicable diseases) has doubled down on his insistence that HCQ works. A recent post on Twitter:
Two major preprints have been published.
Zhong Nanshan, hero of the 2003 SARS outbreak in China and his team: medrxiv.org/content/10.110…
Hospital Central de la Defensa, Madrid: preprints.org/manuscript/202…
Both are strongly supporting the use of hydroxychloroquine for treating SARS-COV2
It should be used with zinc, and not given to half dead patients. I wonder if you reviewed the VA study also. Highly flawed.
“The original version (archived) of the “study” was published on April 21. It received crushing criticism in the comments and was replaced with another one on April 23, hiding those comments. Casting even further doubt on the credibility of this study, one of the authors disclosed Gilead funding for another research. This work was funded by a NIH grant.
Despite its multiple flaws, lack of peer review, and obscurity of the authors, this pre-print immediately received wall-to-wall media coverage. Given these circumstances, this work looks like a criminal fraud, rather than a scientific one.“
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/02/pseudo-science-behind-the-assault-on-hydroxychloroquine/
Here is the original paper, especially note the comments:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1?versioned=true
Anecdotal, but not for those who survived:
You don’t have to be smart to know that pandemics are ancient and recent history. You have to be stupid not to know that they will continue to be so.
He was not the only one predicting it.
You read something somewhere.
Perhaps because there’s better evidence for one than the other?
Raoult is considered by many to be an egomaniac. Whatever one thinks of him the evidence is insufficient to justify his loud trumpeting for the treatment. Zinc was not mentioned as part of the treatment.
Header to the preprint: This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.
Repeat: NOT be used to guide clincal practice.
Vets study, most recent preprint version:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1?versioned=true
CONCLUSIONS: In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19. An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.
Anecdotal. Period.
Despite its multiple flaws, lack of peer review, and obscurity of the authors, this pre-print immediately received wall-to-wall media coverage. Given these circumstances, this work looks like a criminal fraud, rather than a scientific one.“
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/02/pseudo-science-behind-the-assault-on-hydroxychloroquine/
Inquiring minds had already noticed the overlap between HCQ pimps and climate-change denialists.
At first I thought you were just having trouble conveying Satire, and bad Satire at that, and that your sarcasm wasn’t translating in the blog. LOL Yes, you , IMO, have got to be the best example of a “Jone’s Town” cool aid drinker and proveyer… The first sign is when you use the CIA talking points of the “Conspiracy Theorist/theories” and other gems as “Rabbit” and on and on…. Red Herring, straw man arguments and many other Use of opinions and subjective ideas that really are just talking points, so either you are a unwitting fool or a paid propagandist. People like you need so much love…. Hugs <3
@ Response Orac — May 6, 2020 at 9:56 pm
Yea. Gotta agree. That tube interview is like a fantasy or just weird servility. I’m saddened that this credentialed person has been brought down based on his clear words and no science based argument(s). Is it like this in your world?
That dude Ayyadurai just turned a decent degree into Grift. To see it is really amazing and sad.
Some things gotta be known.
Thanks, this was rough to watch.
@ Joshua M
First, you write: “Sids largely eradicated in japan and Sweden after withdrawal of the pertussis vaccine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364648/ ”
You really should check your links as it goes to: Ewing GE (2009 Jul). What is regressive autism and why does it occur? Is it the consequence of multi-systemic dysfunction affecting the elimination of heavy metals and the ability to regulate neural temperature? North American journal of medical sciences; 1(2): 28-47.
Which doesn’t mention SIDS even once in the article.
Then you link several times to: Neil Z. Miller and Gary S Goldman (2011 Sep). Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity? Human & experimental toxicology; 30(9): 1420-1428.
They conclude with: “Using linear regression, the immunization schedules of these 34 nations were examined and a correlation coefficient of 0.70 (p < 0.0001) was found between IMRs and the number of vaccine doses routinely given to infants. When nations were grouped into five different vaccine dose ranges (12–14, 15–17, 18–20, 21–23, and 24–26), 98.3% of the total variance in IMR was explained by the unweighted linear regression model. These findings demonstrate a counter-intuitive relationship: nations that require more vaccine doses tend to have higher infant mortality rates.”
First, correlation isn’t causation and taking one of two variables, making it the dependent variable and the other the independent variable doesn’t change this. A bivariate regression analysis is a simple algebraic transformation of a bivariate correlation analysis. Second, I won’t bother giving the links, you can find them; but there is one blog showing a bivariate correlation between increase in cell phones and diagnosis of Autism Spectrum Disorders and another blog showing a bivariate correlation between increase in organic foods and Autism Spectrum Disorder. As for the grouping, it changes a “interval variable” to an ordinal variable and, thus, wrong equation used.
But what about infant mortality rates. Well, having lived, for instance, in Sweden for 10 years, they stress children’s health, including quality prenatal care regardless of social economic status. Even today refugees from Middle East and Africa have lower infant mortality than poor minorities in U.S. In addition, rather than a tax deduction for kids which benefits higher income brackets more than lower, they mail a check each month to each family for each child to cover decent nutrition and housing. Finally, for working families or attending school, they offer high quality sliding scale day care. Finland, Denmark, Norway, and many other nations all offer quality prenatal care and better programs to support families with children. Including both prenatal and postnatal checkups. And they don’t have infants living in slums with chipping lead paint, exposure to rats, insects, etc.
And you should check out the following about Neil Z Miller:
Encyclopedia of American Loons (2014 Mar 11). #950: Neil Z. Miller & Gary S. Goldman Available at:https://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014/03/950-neil-z-miller-gary-s-goldman.html
And, though several pages supporting him use Dr. according to his own website:
Education
College of Santa Fe, 1990, Bachelor’s Degree in Psychology Available at:http://thinktwice.com/Neil_Z_Miller_CV-Bio.pdf
And I read parts of one of his books, “Miller’s Review of Critical Vaccine Studies: 400 Important Scientific Papers
Summarized for Parents and Researchers”
Just one thought, on page 26 he writes: “In 2000, a new study in the Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics confirmed earlier findings that children who received DPT or tetanus vaccines are significantly more likely to develop a ‘history of asthma’ . . . than those who remained unvaccinated.” From the actual article: “The odds of having a history of asthma was twice as great among vaccinated subjects than among unvaccinated subjects (adjusted odds ratio, 2.00; 95% confidence interval, 0.59 to 6.74).”
For those unschooled in statistics, a confidence interval of 1 means no difference between the groups. A number below 1 would mean that the unvaccinated had higher incidence of disease and, obviously, a number above 1 would be the vaccinated had the higher incidence. When a confidence interval range contains both and is as wide as this one, it means that any finding could be solely due to random chance. Either Mr. Miller just doesn’t understand research methods and statistics or . . . In any case, this study clearly does not remotely show anything “significantly more likely.” Don’t believe me; but the study authors own conclusion is “Although it is unlikely that these results are entirely because of any sources of bias, the small number of unvaccinated subjects and the study design limit our ability to make firm causal inferences.” The conclusion should have simply read the results were inconclusive. Claiming that they can’t make “firm causal inferences” would be like tossing a coin a few times and claiming one couldn’t make a firm causal inference as to the coin being balanced or not.
As for SIDS, the number of SIDS cases has plummeted since the mid 1990s while vaccines have been added to the schedule. If one wants to think correlation, means more vaccines, less SIDS, so, if we want to end SIDS, let’s increase number of vaccines. ? I won’t bother to give references, except to say that cases of SIDS go back long into history; but modern nations document and count. And the reason for plummeting rates can be found, CDC. Sudden Unexpected Infant Death and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome at:https://www.cdc.gov/sids/index.htm ANDhttps://www.cdc.gov/sids/ResourceLinks.htm AND Vaccines and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) Available at:https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/sids.html
So, you are just one more moron who finds articles that confirm your unscientific bias and copy them. Oh well.
““Sids largely eradicated in japan and Sweden after withdrawal of the pertussis vaccine….”
I hate that pernicious lie. What happened after a couple of babies died after the DTP from SIDS, they stopped giving it until age two. Then over forty babies died from pertussis. I am sure you have access to this paper:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9652634/
It has the sad story of Japan, plu what happened in Sweden and elsewhere. I seemed to have forgotten my password at the Lancet.
Also, never take vaccination advice from Japan where politics often rules over science, and the doctors are not happy about that (the last couple of sentences of this paper reflect that):http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3824286/
Sheila: “I was wondering if you noticed Dr. Raoult (dear reader- please note he is considered by many to be the number one expert in the world on communicable diseases) has doubled down on his insistence that HCQ works.”
Who exactly considers Raoult to be “the number one expert in the world on communicable diseases”? There’s probably a wide range of opinion (among those qualified to have one) on who deserves that honor, but I can’t find “many” or evenany independent infectious disease specialists who are on record as viewing Raoult as Mr. Big.
Fauci would get some votes. Raoult may be #1 in his own mind but he doesn’t show up in lists elsewhere.
Sheila: “I am somewhat sick of the evidence based only people.
I am a retired dentist.”
Anyone who needs dental work should be pleased at the retirement of non-evidence based dentists.
Please note: evidence based ONLY. Dentists routinely share experiences to learn from each other. Anecdotal, but extremely helpful to our patients.
Also note: someone posted here, don’t listen to anything out of Japan, science has gotten mixed up with politics.
I might add China. And the USA.
Le sigh. In college I was referred to a dentist by my roommate’s then boyfriend, a soon to graduate dentist. I tried to be a test client for his final clinical testing, but my teeth really only needed to be cleaned. So he referred me to one of his clinical professors. Who I went to until he retired, and now we are seen by the younger guy they looked hard to replace him (I believe the criteria was the same kind of dad jokes).
A few years ago I looked up what my roommate’s old boyfriend was up to. He was up to scaring patients about mercury fillings and replacing all their teeth. He had become one of those grifters. Aargh.
This is what anecdotes gets you. Subpar medical care. It happens in all medical fields. Many have been documented on this blog and the other blog the author writes at: Science Based Medicine.
One of the former authors of the Science Based Medicine blog, Dr. Mark Crislip, has a saying that the most scary/dangerous thing you can hear from a medical practitioner is “In my experience….”:https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/who-you-gonna-believe-me-or-you-own-eyes/
This is the paragraph of note:
I like to say the three most dangerous words in medicine are ‘I lack insurance’. No. That’s not it. It is the words ‘In my experience.’ But experience dominates over critical thinking every day in every way. If I liked to participate in the naturalistic fallacy, I would say critical thinking is un-natural, like plastic, cement and Twinkies (I suspect all are made in the same factory from the same material), a man-made construct never found in the wild.
Instead of pointing out your opinion as fact, and simply parroting potential misinformation, why not actually investigate her claims? All you have done is found other misinformed people as ‘proof’. If you were truly a humble doctor you would be open to being proven wrong, and learning from it. Instead, you are grandstanding. I don’t blame you really. This is what you are taught and you are too wary of disagreeing and public ridicule. On that alone she has far more credibility than you do right now. The world is not saved by cowardice but by true conviction. I believe you could be filled with true conviction for the truth if you just put your ego aside. Please try.
Silly man. You think I didn’t investigate her claims? Her claims are BS.
“We can start by the fact that describing aluminum salts as a heavy metal suggests some misunderstandings.
This blog addressed aluminum adjuvants many times in the past. The search engine can help you find that.”
So, the article you link to states that they are tested extensively in clinical trials before being released and then the studies claim that since it is such a small amount it makes no difference. Uh, who funded those studies? The vaccine manufacturers perhaps?
I ask because a study (which took about a minute to locate) on PubMed.gov from the NIH states:
We have examined the neurotoxicity of aluminum in humans and animals under various conditions, following different routes of administration, and provide an overview of the various associated disease states.
The literature demonstrates clearly negative impacts of aluminum on the nervous system across the age span.
In adults, aluminum exposure can lead to apparently age-related neurological deficits resembling Alzheimer’s and has been linked to this disease and to the Guamanian variant, ALS-PDC.Similar outcomes have been found in animal models.
In addition, injection of aluminum adjuvants in an attempt to model Gulf War syndrome and associated neurological deficits leads to an ALS phenotype in young male mice.
In young children, a highly significant correlation exists between the number of pediatric aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines administered and the rate of autism spectrum disorders. Many of the features of aluminum-induced neurotoxicity may arise, in part, from autoimmune reactions, as part of the ASIA syndrome.
Hmmm….I wonder what they mean by “a highly significant correlation exists between the number of pediatric aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines administered and the rate of autism spectrum disorders.”
Do you think that could mean that aluminum adjuvants from children’s vaccines may be contributing an increased incidence of autism? (I’m sure the vaccine industry funded some counter studies to state – don’t pay attention to that study, we now know that aluminum – a known and serious CNS toxin given to children without a developed brain blood barrier at the age of 2 months on, is just peachy keen and has no impact on children with undeveloped brains and nervous systems.)https://bit.ly/2Wh7XFi
But wait why stop there!
There’s another study from PubMed titled:
Aluminum adjuvant linked to Gulf War illness induces motor neuron death in mice.
Gulf War illness (GWI) affects a significant percentage of veterans of the 1991 conflict, but its origin remains unknown. Associated with some cases of GWI are increased incidences of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis and other neurological disorders. Whereas many environmental factors have been linked to GWI, the role of the anthrax vaccine has come under increasing scrutiny. Among the vaccine’s potentially toxic components are the adjuvants aluminum hydroxide and squalene.
Hmmm….the adjuvant aluminum hydroxide…let’s see what they discovered with this “perfectly safe” CNS toxin.
To examine whether these compounds might contribute to neuronal deficits associated with GWI, an animal model for examining the potential neurological impact of aluminum hydroxide, squalene, or aluminum hydroxide combined with squalene was developed. Young, male colony CD-1 mice were injected with the adjuvants at doses equivalent to those given to US military service personnel. All mice were subjected to a battery of motor and cognitive-behavioral tests over a 6-mo period post injections. Following sacrifice, central nervous system tissues were examined using immunohistochemistry for evidence of inflammation and cell death.
The results?
Behavioral testing showed motor deficits in the aluminum treatment group that expressed as a progressive decrease in strength measured by the wire-mesh hang test (final deficit at 24 wk; about 50%). Significant cognitive deficits in water-maze learning were observed in the combined aluminum and squalene group (4.3 errors per trial) compared with the controls (0.2 errors per trial) after 20 wk. Apoptotic neurons were identified in aluminum-injected animals that showed significantly increased activated caspase-3 labeling in lumbar spinal cord (255%) and primary motor cortex (192%) compared with the controls. Aluminum-treated groups also showed significant motor neuron loss (35%) and increased numbers of astrocytes (350%) in the lumbar spinal cord. The findings suggest a possible role for the aluminum adjuvant in some neurological features associated with GWI and possibly an additional role for the combination of adjuvants.https://bit.ly/2YK8aCK
Not a very good outcome it seems. Here’s another:
Aluminum hydroxide injections lead to motor deficits and motor neuron degeneration.
Possible causes of GWS include several of the adjuvants in the anthrax vaccine and others. The most likely culprit appears to be aluminum hydroxide.https://bit.ly/2WGmgT0
There are more.
So, what misunderstandings are being missed here?
Aluminum is a serious CNS toxin that can be fatal and accumulates in the body over time.
Children as young as 2 months with an immature and not fully developed brain blood barrier and developing brain and nervous system are given at least two doses of aluminum adjuvant vaccines at as young as 2 months according to CDC vaccine scheduling recommendations as well as formaldehyde containing vaccines (I suppose that’s a good thing too.). However, we’re supposed to believe that since it is such a small amount, it really means nothing.
After all, they get more in their diets right?
Funny that the studies don’t seem to share your confidence. I guess we should just trust the doctors right.
Not common sense. Not facts. Not studies which demonstrate otherwise. Just trust the drug pushing docs.
Otherwise, you are an “anti-vax” conspiracy nut right?
When did medicine become so dogmatic and deceptive. Was it when it passed the first annual Trillion back in the 90’s or the third annual Trillion?
I guess the late Dr. Robert Mendelsohn M.D., author of Confessions of a Medical Heretic was right when he stated,
“Modern medicine can’t survive without our faith, because modern medicine is neither an art nor a science; it’s a religion…Just ask ‘why’ enough times and sooner or later you’ll reach the chasm of faith.”
Either that or intransigent dogma or perhaps a blend of both.
Judy Mikovitz has been dishonest about many things. Mikki Willis is also a liar claiming things about his involvement in 9/11 which are also false. However it is so easy to poke holes in their stories because they are controlled opposition designed to push easily debunked conspiracy theories and shut down reasoned debate about a myriad of problems with the science and policy decisions being made around COVID-19. There is no other reason for their existence or their plandemic film. It’s all just too easy.
In response to those who would love to call Dr Raoult a quack, egomaniac, or whatever other insults you can drum up:
each column, black bars show the relative amount of expertise for each place or person. Longer is better. For example, D Raoult is the top-rated expert in Communicable Diseases in the world. Past data are available.
http://expertscape.com/ex/communicable+diseases
@ Sheila
The number of publications doesn’t equal the impact. John Watson and Francis Crick published one article on structure of DNA and changed the world. There are other scientists who have published a handfull of papers that had major impacts. And years ago many universities decided that only if one were among first three authors could articles be included for promotions and tenure. Many articles include as authors members of lab, chair of department, etc. I did a quick search using Raoult’s name and skimming a few pages of articles, the vast majority he wasn’t among the first three authors. And there are top line peer-reviewed journals and over the past decades a number of for-profit journals have popped up, easier to get published in. Sometimes they also contain quality articles; but not always.
I found this: “Expertscape has gained acceptance as a means for clinicians to identify single-disease subspecialists.” Well, “Communicable Diseases” has a huge range, totally impossible for anyone to masters even a small subset, and he is certainly not a single-disease sub specialist.
And finally, if you read Orac’s articles on his research on hydroxychloroquine you would understand just how poorly they were done.
And he is basically a denier of climate change and/or man’s contributing to it. Way outside his field of expertise; but he still makes his opinion public.
Only really stupid people believe one can rate in such a way.
Shorter Sheila: “Never mind the quality, feel the width!”
D Raoult runs an enormous paper mill. Of course he sticks his name on every paper they churn out, regardless of whether it’s any good or he himself was personally involved.
That doesn’t make him a great scientist, it makes him a great salesman. And the product he’s selling is D Raoult.
Now, the science establishmentis guilty of something: guilty of letting him get away with all his dodgy self-serving crap for as long as it has. Ignorance, indifference, different priorities; whatever. And now he’s dug in like a tick, with powerful friends in politics and media. If it was GSK or Dr Gorski behaving like that, you’d be all over them like a rash—and quite right too. (So would we.)
So if you are a neutral observer then why a double standard: automatically assuming malice on one side and altruism on the other?
Are you really after the truth, or just a pleasing narrative that makes you feel good? ’Cos as someone who learned that particular difference the very hard and painful way, I’m just going to quote you a trulygood scientist here:
“Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. The principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool.”—Richard Feynman
Scientist or layperson, I encourage you to read thewhole thing. For science is at heart an intellectual tool for separating facts from fictions. You may find it useful.
Via Dr. James Todara, MD.
The Italian Society for Rheumatology studied 65,000 patients on longterm hydroxychloroquine for RA and Lupus.
Only 20 patients tested positive for COVID-19. No ICU, no deaths.
This is a 90% reduction in infection rate compared to the rest of Italy.https://t.co/Pta97oBA8O
The story is a fabrication. Shocking, I know, that chloroquaints should be inveterate liars.
The number is completely fictional. As mentioned here in the comments, the president of the Italian Rheumatology Society was contacted directly and states that this number is completely wrong, that the society is monitoring 150 patients in its registry, 20 of whom are taking hydroxychloroquine. The 65,000 number is bogus.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/05/04/hydroxychloroquine-update-may-4
Re James Todaro:
https://www.wired.com/story/an-old-malaria-drug-may-fight-covid-19-and-silicon-valleys-into-it/
Todaro should vet his sources before rushing to propagate fictions. I refer to The Italian Society for Rheumatology fiction.
Assuming he is propagating this fiction. Which I infer from Sheila’s somewhat gnomic post.
@ Sheila
First, people with lupus and rheumatoid arthritis usually are under medical supervision, so, at the first outbreak, one can hope that their personal doctors warned them. Second, having known several, they don’t go out and socialize like “healthy” individuals. Third, several studies have been recently completed that did NOT find hydroxychloroquine worked. In fact, at least one study was terminated early because of higher adverse reactions and deaths in group receiving it.
If future research shows you are totally wrong, will you admit it? As I’ve written numerous times in comments, I have NO problem admitting when I’m wrong. My current evaluation is based on over 40 years of education, training, and experience; but I could be wrong for the right reasons and someone else could be right for the wrong reasons; however, the odds are highly in my favor as i know how to look at research, design, choice of statistics, etc
Unfortunately I can’t read Italian, so can’t look at the article you linked to. Do you read Italian? If not, how do you know the study was well-designed? And, if you can read Italian, what education, training do you have to make such a evaluation?
This is one reason why you need to wait for the reviewed and vetted studies. This is mostly what they have indexed on PubMed. This article on how to read and understand a paper might help you:https://violentmetaphors.com/2013/08/25/how-to-read-and-understand-a-scientific-paper-2/
Also, you might want to download this book from your local library (or elsewhere):Lies, Damned Lies, and Science: How to Sort through the Noise Around Global Warming, the Latest Health Claims, and Other Scientific Controversies by Sherry Seethaler
And by the way upthread: aluminum is not a heavy metal, that is what was being conveyed. You cannot get “heavy metal” poisoning from one of the lighter metal elements. Which happens to be the most common metal element on the crust of this planet. It is a component of all the soil you food is grown in. It would be useful if you learned a wee bit of chemistry along with biology.
In addition to the fiction already debunked, Il Tempo cites another trial for hydroxychloroquine as prophylactic treatment. It states that of 211 people exposed to Covid19 receiving hydroxychloroquine prophylactic treatment none were infected. Published in International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents.
However, concerns raised about the study have caused the publishers to issue a statement saying that additional peer review is under way and that a correction may be considered depending on the outcome.
https://www.isac.world/news-and-publications/isac-elsevier-statement
@narad
Do you feel that you are in a place where it is impossible to avoid exposure to SARS-COV-2 ?? Is it because of factions?
Join the club. No, wait… I wear a vacuum cleaner bag on my face — I’m ‘flattening the curve’ until animae catches up wiith a cure. It is a race between politics and religion and tribalism as I sneak to keep it on. And yet, I live with people that go to church and sing and spray god’s glory all over the uninitiated. And our mayor is just swell over the 500 pot arrests a day.
Sometimes, I just wanna pull the pin outta this thing and let’her’rip, but TVA would wanna have a word about the disruption afterwards– and a lotta fridges would stop working. Falsly attbuted, it is not like those dead grangrans gonna be complaining about making casserole out of that rotten ‘sparagus anywaysl.
Please ignore that^^
My test trumpbot troll AI has developed empathy. I’m most dreadfully embarrased.
“Poodle Stomper” called it in 2011.
She will end up being the next Wakefield, pushing crap “science” and making money off of her followers. It’s really sad.
https://scienceblogs.com/erv/2011/11/21/xmrv-and-chronic-fatigue-syndr-30#comment-1748844
An article for your consideration.
How ‘Plandemic’ is Fake in 12 GIFs
It also has a link to the Reddit thread mentioned earlier.
either you are a paid pharma-whore or just an ‘squarehead idiot’
before the doors of NaZi concentration camps where opened to eliminate millions there where ‘rumors ‘ about it for years and everybody laughed about this ‘rumors’ if they would have had available the CIA invented term ‘conspiracy theorist’ they would have called it back then a ‘ conspiracy theory’ and everyone warning about of what would be later on history a ‘conspiracy theorist’
but….unfortunately the widely unknown term for real evil is still ‘ ignorance’
IGNORANCE is the REAL EVIL
and the above fabrication is written and published by some of these whitespread cancerous IGNORANTS
Shame on You!
@ Terry
May 10, 2020 at 3:35 am
You link to an article by Christopher Shaw and Lucija Tomljenovic, ophthalmologists whose many articles have been torn apart for poor methodology and a number retracted. Currently about 800,000 articles are captured per year by Medline, so one can easily find a few cherry picked articles that confirm ones bias, one ignorance.
Orac has actually dealt with the two authors, so, you can check out:
Orac (2017 Oct 10). Another antivaccine paper bites the dust at:https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/?s=tomljenovic
Orac (2017 Sep 7). Torturing more mice in the name of antivaccine pseudoscience: PubPeer versus antivaxers at:https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/?s=tomljenovic
Type in search box at top of Respectful Insolence and/or Science-Based Medicine either of the two names and you will find more. You can additional articles explaining just how poor these researchers are at Skeptical Raptor’s website.
I realize that you and others like you are highly unlikely to change your minds, minds not made up based on education and training as scientists; but on opinions form based on conscious and unconscious biases. Your litmus test for the validity of research is not its methodology, not its being replicated by independent researchers; but if its results confirm what you choose to believe.
As I often ask: what is your education, training, etc. that allows you to evaluate the validity of medical science?
@ Terry
May 10, 2020 at 3:35 am
You link to an article by Christopher Shaw and Lucija Tomljenovic, ophthalmologists whose many articles have been torn apart for poor methodology and a number retracted. Currently about 800,000 articles are captured per year by Medline, so one can easily find a few cherry picked articles that confirm ones bias, one ignorance.
Orac has actually dealt with the two authors, so, you can check out:
Orac (2017 Oct 10). Another antivaccine paper bites the dust at:https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/?s=tomljenovic
Orac (2017 Sep 7). Torturing more mice in the name of antivaccine pseudoscience: PubPeer versus antivaxers at:https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/?s=tomljenovic
Type in search box at top of Respectful Insolence and/or Science-Based Medicine either of the two names and you will find more. You can additional articles explaining just how poor these researchers are at Skeptical Raptor’s website.
I realize that you and others like you are highly unlikely to change your minds, minds not made up based on education and training as scientists; but on opinions form based on conscious and unconscious biases. Your litmus test for the validity of research is not its methodology, not its being replicated by independent researchers; but if its results confirm what you choose to believe.
@ Sheila
You write: “I have lost trust in a lot of science in the US because of corruption. I think you know I’m telling the truth. I even think someone here admitted big pharma is corrupt.”
One of the things that really angers me is when people see the world in black and white. Yep, Pharma has been guilty of submitting applications where they withheld key data and recently the FDA has upped its oversight. A great book with extensive references is Ben Goldacre’s “Bad Pharma”; but, on the other hand, I don’t trust or distrust a journal article simply because of its source of funding. I look at the methodology and also if similar studies have been done, don’t rely on one or two studies. And for antivaccinationists who may read this, vaccines are in a league of their own, FDA much stricter oversight and studies carried out around the world, including better post-marketing surveillance than anything else on the market, drugs, medical devices, food, etc.
As for hydroxychloroquine, the latest update I could find is: Chris Dall (2020 May 8). Study finds no hydroxychloroquine effect on death, severe
COVID-19. at:https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/05/study-finds-no-hydroxychloroquine-effect-death-severe-covid-19
It points out that placebo-controlled randomized clinical studies still haven’t been reported. But, so far, the weight of the evidence is that hydroxychloroquine doesn’t save lives and causes severe adverse effects. So, until we have better studies, anecdotal evidence and Raoult’s bogus studies don’t mean anything
@ Sheila
I realize that you are incapable of changing your mind; but for others monitoring this:
1. hydroxychloroquine has been successfully used for some autoimmune diseases, e.g., lupus; but the immune response of an autoimmune disease compared to acute respiratory distress syndrome/cytokine storm is like comparing 10 mph breeze to a category 5, 160 mph, hurricane
2. most people dying from COVID-19 are seniors &/or those with one and often several comorbidites, which means they are already debilitated, the addition of COVID-19 means that the likelihood of the severe reactions to any medication is much higher
So, believe what you want. As I wrote above, I have NO problem being proven wrong if it means saving lives, so I would be wrong for the right reasons (actually carefully looking using my training) and someone else could be right for the wrong reason. We’ll see; but what if you are wrong and it turns out that hydroxychlorine actually kills people?
Wow…the tin foil hat brigade is out, loud, and proud!
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/index.html — addresses the mercury-based preservative in vaccines that is being phased out. No, I don’t like the idea of mercury in vaccines, and I don’t want to die of the measles, either…speaking of which…
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01011-6 — explains why measles deaths are surging (you guessed it: it has something to do with vaccinations)
The reason people care whether or not others get vaccinated:
According to some estimates, 50 to 70 percent of Americans would need to develop immunity to COVID-19 — either naturally, or via a vaccine — in order to thwart the spread of the virus. If these estimates are correct, that could mean that nearly twice as many Americans would need to elect to receive a COVID-19 vaccine as those who currently opt to be vaccinated against seasonal influenza. Just 37 percent of American adults did so in 2017-2018, even in the midst of a historically severe flu season.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/07/opinion/23-percent-say-they-wont-get-covid-19-vaccine/
I wonder if most anti-vaxxers grew up before they witnessed diseases like polio, not connecting the vaccines THEY received as children to the relative good health they enjoy now.
Yes, I have my issues with big pharma just like I have issues with most giant corporations. But I’m not blinded by anger or mired in exaggeration and imaginary thinking.
Keep going, Orac! I don’t know how you do it!
@Sheila.
A circle.
Above your “Via Dr. James Todara” post there is a post from has. has employs my all time favourite science educational quote, from Richard Feynman:
“Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. The principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool.”
has describes Feynman as a good scientist. I struggle with the word “good”. Particularly in the context of a certain pretender to greatness here under discussion. I can’t contain myself – Feynman was one of the greatest scientists of the 20th century. I feel much better for that.
Did you look at the link, Sheila? You should. Here it is again:
You see that my Wired link in response to your James Todaro post, connects Todaro to Gregory Rigano. In turn Rigano connects with Raoult in has’s link.
We arrive at the second study mentioned in Il Tempo. The very one in has’s link. Presently on hold for a second dose of peer review.
Philippe GAUTRET , Jean Christophe LAGIER author has email , Philippe PAROLA , Van Thuan HOANG , Line MEDDED , Morgan MAILHE , Barbara DOUDIER , Johan COURJON , Valerie GIORDANENGO , Vera ESTEVES VIEIRA , Herve TISSOT DUPONT , Stephane HONORE , Philippe COLSON , Eric CHABRIERE , Bernard LA SCOLA , Jean Marc ROLAIN , Philippe BROUQUI , Didier RAOULT
The greatest living egotist on the planet, some say, is the lead author.
CORRECTION
Whilst seeking more information about Annalisa Chiusolo, who made the claims in Il Tempo which have been discussed, I came across the following link:
https://internetprotocol.co/hype-news/2020/04/30/covid19-explanation-hcq-works/
There is a link to the study relating to the second of the claims previously discussed:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092485792030145X?via=ihub
The study in question is NOT Gautret et al.
Sun Hee Lee et al. are the authors and the study is available to download.
It’s a Chinese bio-weapon, and the reason they unleashed it now rather than at a different time is very obvious to anyone who is up-to-date on current trends in classical music.
There’s an opera– Puccini’s last opera– which is very challenging and not performed all that often, except by the really top-level companies, because it’s so difficult for the singers. Puccini never finished it, but other lesser composers have composed endings. It’s calledTurandot and it is set in ancient Peking, or rather, in Puccini’s fantasy of what ancient Peking was like. (Puccini set several of his operas in exotic, foreign lands:Madama Butterfly in Japan,The Girl of the Golden West in USA, and,Turandot in ancient China, the city of Peking (“Pekino”).) Now,Turandot is experiencing renewed popularity right now; it’s a big fad in the opera world. The Met was scheduled to do it in April this year, and several of the lesser opera companies like San Francisco Opera and Chicago Lyric Opera were gonna do it, and even the “little-grand-opera” companies like Regina Opera in Brooklyn and West Bay Opera in Palo Alto — companies which cast young, unknown singers to give them a start on their careers, and which perform in small venues for audiences of fewer than 150 people, were getting ready to do it. It’s also trendy in Europe. (These trends come and go– a few years ago the mostly-forgotten composer Meyerbeer was all the rage, and before that everyone was doing Donizetti, including very obscure works by him likePoliuto.)
This operaTurandot is very offensive to Chinese nationalists, because it depicts the Chinese people as superstitious, bloodthirsty barbarians ruled by a sadistic tyrant. It’s kind of like old anti-Chinese movies like The Mask of Fu Manchu. But now, because of COVID-19, many of these companies have cancelled performances, as the states shut down theaters and concert halls. This was obviously what the Chinese government was hoping to accomplish by unleashing this virus at this particular time– to preventTurandot from being performed in Europe and USA.
That iscui bono in this case.
(Link to a sample of the opera removed b/c spam filter doesn’t like it)
The Plot Thickens on Remdesivir
Based on the study, not published, but explained by officials, including Anthony Fauci, it appeared to have a modest; but positive effect in reducing days of hospitalization/regaining normal functioning and possibly deaths. Today, a paper casts doubt. I suggest those interested read: Mathew Herper (2020 May 11). “Inside the NIH’s controversial decision to stop its big remdesivir study” at:https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/11/inside-the-nihs-controversial-decision-to-stop-its-big-remdesivir-study/
I based my judgment on what was available, however, as John Meynard Keynes once said when asked why he changed his opinion (not direct quote): “When new facts arrive, I evaluate them, what do you do?” So, now I am more doubtful of whether we released Remdesivir too soon. Oh well.
We know we are in for a treat when the proPharma boys and girls start trotting out their all-too-predictable “conspiracy theory” psychobabble. If you believe a claim is without merit, why not just provide your evidence and leave it at that? What is the point of a determinedly derogatory epithet? What purpose is served by the ‘conspiracy theory’ label? I would suggest one purpose is to patrol the parameters of approved thought. The term evinces a kind of arrogance and ethical stuntedness, as do all terms which attempt to dismiss, shame or silence people who think in ways other than those that the arbiters of society deem acceptable. Or, as Noam Chomsky put it: “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion.”
(And, really, the cheap ad hominem “grifter” bit only serves to undermine whatever credibility you might possess. Is the implication that anyone who dissents from the dominant corporate-approved narrative of Covid-19 a ‘grifter’? Is your ability to spot a ‘grifter’ the result of whatever connections you might have to pharmaceutical manufacturers? Does your ‘deny and project’ tactic come straight out of Edward Bernays?)
Secondly, the label ‘conspiracy theory’ basically functions as a dog whistle used by the self-appointed (and one could say self-righteous) protectors of government and the corporate definitions of ‘the truth’. The panderers of the ‘conspiracy theory’ label are a bit like the pitiable, bumbling Wizard of Oz who, as he is being revealed as a fake, cries out something to the effect of “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.”
The issue is not whether another adult chooses to put a given substance, e.g., a vaccine, into their own body. The issue is whether that person demands that I put that substance in my body, for ‘the greater good’ of course. One would do well to heed the caution of Albert Camus: “The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of the tyrant.” We will see, quite soon I imagine, how the dog whistle of ‘conspiracy theory’ may be used to rally the (storm)troopers (the first wave will be the contact tracers) to the cause of mandatory vaccination. As Josef Goebbels so memorably put it: “Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting of their own free will.”
In the spirit of the moment here are a few things that ‘the man behind the curtain’ would prefer people not know about. Vaccines are alleged to be safe and effective. Yet it has been illegal, since 1983, to sue vaccine manufacturers for injury. Pharmaceutical corporations have no financial, let alone moral, responsibility for the effects of their products. Such a deal! But someone should tell DHHS that the science has been “debunked”. They obviously didn’t get the memo because the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act (NVICP) (administered by the US Department of Health and Human Services) has paid out $4.3 billion dollars in injury claims since 1988.
https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vaccine-compensation/data/data-statistics-report.pdf
Then, of course there is the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREPA), passed in 2005, which further “provides immunity from liability (except for willful misconduct) for claims of loss caused, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from administration or use of countermeasures to diseases” in a public health emergency. This includes Covid-19. So just on the off chance that this “let’s skip animal trials”, genetically engineered vaccine should cause a problem or two, the vaccinated have no recourse. The corporations have their own butts covered….yours? not so much.
https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/default.aspxhttps://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/04/15/2020-08040/amendment-to-declaration-under-the-public-readiness-and-emergency-preparedness-act-for-medical
Vaccines are alleged to be safe and effective. Why is it, then, that the ICD, the International Classification of Diseases, a tool that physicians use to classify causes of injury and death, has sixteen different classifications that code for poisoning from vaccines? See codes 978.0 through 978.9 and 979.0 through 979.7 (The codes in the ICD-10 may be somewhat different.)
https://www.findacode.com/search/search.php
Vaccines are alleged to be safe and effective. Why is it, then, in a FOIA request when the FDA was asked to provide “A copy of the report for each clinical trial relied upon by the FDA when approving for use by pregnant women any influenza vaccine currently approved by the FDA”, the FDA could provide no evidence of any safety trials having been conducted?
https://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ICAN-v-FDA-Resolved-Court-Filed-Copy-Copy.pdf
And then there are those pesky conflict of interest issues, you know between WHO/CDC and vaccine manufacturers but it’s probably nothing more than a ‘conspiracy theory’. You should probably talk with these researchers at the British Medical Journal and this researcher at Johns Hopkins who think otherwise.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/who-swine-flu-conspiracies.pdfhttps://www.bmj.com/content/350/bmj.h2362.fullhttp://vaccinepapers.org/wp-content/uploads/Doshi-Flu-Vaccine-BMJ.pdf .
Of course, we all know that Bill Gates’ life has been unceasingly dedicated to the betterment of the poor and marginalized. Why would anyone ever think that there are conflicts of interest with his vaccine business ventures and his drive to vaccinate the entire world with his newest product as soon as it comes off the assembly line? Again someone should tell these people that it’s all a ‘conspiracy theory’ – the folks from the African Centre for Global Health & Social Transformation (ACHEST) (Uganda), Third World Network (India) Drug Action Forum (India), Nigerian Women Agro Allied Farmers Assn. (Nigeria), Initiative for Social and Economic Rights (ISER) (Uganda), Public Health Resource Network (India) and about twenty other international organizations who penned a letter to the Executive Board of the World Health Organization because they had grave concerns that conflict of interest safeguards were far too weak to protect WHO from the influence of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. (But I guess these folks who are mostly poor, brown Third Worlders are also among the tinfoil hat wearers. Obviously it takes privileged cognoscenti of the USA to set them straight. We could move right on to a discussion of medical imperialism but that is another, albeit closely related, story.)
https://healthscienceandlaw.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Public-Interest-Position.WHO_.FENSAGates.Jan2017.pdf
And whatever happens be sure not to bring up the involvement of the Department of Defense in the development of vaccines!!! I mean we can all agree it makes perfect sense that just as Bill Gates is concerned about our health so, too, is the Department of Defense.
Don’t mention this…DARPA gives $45 million to Inovio Pharmaceuticals for vaccine development.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200321101648/https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/inovio-pharmaceuticals-selected-by-darpa-to-lead-a-45-million-program-to-expedite-development-of-novel-products-to-prevent-and-treat-disease-caused-by-ebola-2015-04-08
Or this….DARPA awards $25 million to Moderna to develop RNA vaccines.
https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/darpa-awards-moderna-therapeutics-grant-25-million-develop
Or this DoD grant for the development of “Multiagent Synthetic DNA Vaccines Delivered by Noninvasive Electroporation” file:///C:/Users/Toshiba/Zotero/storage/WE3NYN3S/398609.html
Not this one eitherhttps://www.federalgrants.com/Accelerated-Manufacturing-of-Pharmaceuticals-AMP-5895.html ?
And definitely not this. ” DARPA Is Developing Human Bio-Factories to Brew Lifesaving Vaccines”https://www.livescience.com/52150-humans-become-vaccine-factories.html?
You are only too aware that powerful individuals, institutions and corporations use their power in ways and for ends which need to be examined. The fact that their goals and interests converge (as in Gates, vaccines and the Department of Defense) does not require a ‘conspiracy theory’. All that is necessary to understand much of what we see happening in the world today is curiosity, a willingness to question, a moderate amount of intelligence, a basic knowledge of how systems work and power dynamics operate and an ability to connect the dots. You should try it some time.
The conspiracy theory here is that the whole modern medicine is a plot by Rockefellers. Interesting thing is that Standard Oil was dismantled by Supreme Court. So Rockerfeller could not prevent even dismantling of his own company.
Vaccine safety data reported to FDA is here:
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/vaccines-licensed-use-united-states
Just pick your vaccine. ICAN just proved that HHS did report Congress properly.
Peter Doshi is an anthropologist, hardly an super eport you think he is.
DoD fund vaccine research, because sicj soldiers cannot serve. What is more obvious than that ?
@Janie Doebuck: “And whatever happens be sure not to bring up the involvement of the Department of Defense in the development of vaccines!!!”
Right, the DOD has no business getting involved in vaccines, just because they bring together thousands of young people from every state and many countries to work, train, eat, sleep, etc. in close quarters and then send them to places where sanitation and preventive medicine is sketchy FYI, the 1st World War was also the first major war in which combat killed more soldiers than infectious disease. If you want to see why DOD supports vaccination and vaccine research, read up on Camp Wikoff in 1898 to get a clue. The US Army has long been a leader in vaccination. George Washington ordered his soldiers to be inoculated against smallpox in 1776. FYI,https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/us-military-and-vaccine-history
And all of that is not to mention the very real prospect of biological warfare and bioterrorism.
@ Christine Kincaid
The moron crawls out from under her rock and writes:
“Best Mothers Day present ever was visiting this site & seeing the outcry against the vaccine narrative. Orca & minions; has it ever occurred to you that maybe doctors and scientists are not ‘turning anti vaccine’ but actually discovering something that you haven’t yet? Do you realize this ‘turning’ is a one way street? No ‘anti vax ‘ scientists ever turn pro vax, do they? The reign of terror; the vaccine narrative, is starting to crumble. LOOK at the science again. The truth is in the science. Not the epidemiological nonsense that couldn’t correlate gravity to a falling object… The etiological science. Look at the history. If you don’t want to go back to Nazi Germany at least go back to SV40.”
Let’s start with SV40. Numerous studies have found NO relationship to cancer. Yep, some early studies did find this; but they were small with weaker methodology. Also, studies found that SV40 was ubiquitous in the environment. I realize this is a bit complicated for you; but it means people are exposed to it quite often without vaccines; but still not causing or contributing to cancer.
As for “epidemiological nonsense” it’s interesting how antivaxxers still cite epidemiological studies; but only the ones that support their position, cherry picking them and ignoring more studies and better designed studies that refute their position. I guess you are a smoker since it was epidemiological studies that first found relationship with cancer, cardiovascular disease, etc. Have you ever even read an introductory book on epidemiology? Do you understand it or does anything that contradicts your idiotic fantasy world immediately raise your ire.
In case you are unaware the population of the U.S. is around 330 million, so a few of your fellow nutcases posting on this website or other websites isn’t proof of anything; except proof of your lack of reality testing. Polls show a rather steady support for vaccines with minor fluctuations. The fact that an insignificant minority of doctors and scientists are antivaxx proves nothing. There are doctors who promote homeopathy, water, and a host of other unscientific treatments based mainly on anecdote and sometimes a few small poorly done studies. Result is patients suffer and die.
As for the “truth is in the science”, yep, and if you understood immunology and microbiology, that B-cells and T-cells develop into memory cells based on recognizing a killed microbe or parts of it in the same way if they had experienced the real microbe, so that when the real microbe attacks, they recognize it super fast, rev up much higher, and often stop it cold before we even notice it. However, by vaccinating we avoid or minimize the actual disease experience, including suffering, hospitalizations, disabilities, and deaths. Once more, I suggest moron you read: Lauren Sompayrac’s “How the Immune System Works 6th Edition”, available for Amazon.com I could recommend some 850 page undergraduate immunology texts; but Sompayrac does a super job of explaining the basics without getting lost amid, for instance, multiple chemical formulas, etc. and only 160 pages.
“Nazi Germany”, now you’ve crossed the line. Having grown up knowing many camp survivors, having since an early age read many books and articles, being Jewish, yep, the overwhelming majority of medical doctors, epidemiologists, public health workers, and politicians from numerous nations with different cultures, different histories, different economic systems, different political system, different educational systems, all are Nazi-like in their willingness to sacrifice their own respective nations children. YOU ARE DESPICABLE! ! !
Oh, I will be first in line when a COVID-19 vaccine comes out and before that in the Fall I will, as usual, get the flu vaccine first day my health plan offers it. And I get the high-dose flu zone.
ADDENDUM
Actually ORAC’s alter ego wrote an article on SV40:
David Gorski (2013 Sep 9). Another antivaccine zombie meme: polio vaccine and SV40 and cancer, oh, my! Available at:https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/another-antivaccine-zombie-meme-sv40-and-cancer-and-polio-oh-my/
You do understand that he is an oncologist?
I did another search and found a couple of articles where they hypothesized that SV 40 may be involved in mesothelioma. I emphasize “may.” You do know what mesothelioma is? Cancer caused by exposure to asbestos. They found a higher level of SV 40 in those with mesothelioma; but other articles didn’t, so, it could be an artifact of their methodology. I’ll let ORAC address this.
I have currently 106 journal articles on SV 40 in a file on my desktop
I don’t know anything about this Biologist or the people she talks about, nor a lot about medical terms, but can confirm on most of the statements she makes.
In Bulgaria, Europe are true:
– Many people diagnose with the Covid 19, having lethal health problems such as stroke, diabetes or skull damage because of accident,who later died are said to have died with Covid19 but not by covid 19. They all count in the statistics We have 68 deaths for 2 months, given that in car crash 100 people die for this period.
-Government here was tracked to launder huge funds from the EU into private companies related to the pandemic.
– With 2000 “confirmed” cases, in our country of 7m population that makes 0.02% infected and a pandemic is considered at least 2%
– Vaccination passports and cashless payments only are ridiculous and 80% of the people here will oppose it
Another thing is that only by looking at the headings of this website i can see its main purpose is to discredit people and topics rather than contribute to anything positive.
It appeared to me when i was researching more news about the video and respectfulinsolence was referenced as a respectful medical journal in a website with auto generated 10k likes, but i don’t see anything respectful in those yellow pages here.
We have 68 deaths for 2 months, given that in car crash 100 people die for this period.
Is that 100 people a yearly average or the last 2 months? If it is like most of the rest of the world, there hasn’t been much traffic for weeks. It needs to be seen the all -cause mortality to see undercounting/testing. It sounds like you guys are doing better than most, though.
7 million. I was going to ask Paraquay? I was thinking that there might be some elixir in the kesú paraguai chip dip.
https://apnews.com/e2921cc8a3b14ec76d80a5d0b3d0bbaa
India is interesting:
The fear was that if COVID-19 were to spread through India’s densely crowded cities, especially its slums, millions could die. The toll could be much worse than in Europe or the United States, where there are many more doctors and hospitals per capita.
But about five weeks later, parts of the country are seeing a dramatic drop in mortality. Funeral directors and ambulance drivers are bewildered. Instead of seeing a deluge of COVID-19 patients, many say their facilities are less crowded.
…There are other, unproven theories as to why India’s coronavirus death toll is not higher: Some believe a certain type of tuberculosis vaccination common in India may offer some immunity.
…But those who work in funeral services say the drop in mortality, under lockdown, is a bitter illustration of how deadly India can be in normal times. They credit a near-total lockdown that has averted road and railway accidents and thwarted some types of crime.
“We typically get 20 bodies a day, but these days it’s one or two, maximum,” says Lakshmi Kumar, 46, proprietor of Kumar International, which offers private ambulance and funeral services in the southern city of Bengaluru but does not handle COVID-19 cases. “We still get the occasional heart attack victim, but otherwise it’s quiet. There haven’t been road accidents, because everyone is staying at home.”
The government recorded more than 150,000 deaths from road accidents in 2018, the most recent year for which data are available.
…In the commercial capital Mumbai, an average of about eight people are killed per day on commuter trains. Since passenger trains were halted on March 22, eight people have died so far in all of April. (Some cargo services are still running.)
…It’s unclear how many deaths have occurred at home and may have gone unreported.
…”It’s the worst since our business opened in 1994,” she says. “I’ve never seen such a quiet period.”
This blog is rife with logical fallacies.https://thebestschools.org/magazine/15-logical-fallacies-know/
It misstates several things. One being that Fauci came to her lab to demand the paper, and then goes on for several paragraphs ranting about why didn’t he just call. She did state he called.
I notice the Science article you linked as verification that there were warrants does not have any actual links to any documents to verify its statements, and frankly even the author of the article sounded somewhat dubious himself about the veracity of the claims. This video interview with her shows her booking sheet with no primary charge listed, and she states there was only a secondary charge of “fugitive from justice”, which seems invalid without a primary charge in the first place. Additionally, it shows the “warrant”, which isn’t signed by a judge, meaning it’s not valid. Furthermore, do we really believe that if they had a shred of evidence that she was actually guilty of what she was accused of they wouldn’t have at least attempted to prosecute her? Instead they just dropped the charges. Why?https://www.facebook.com/BenSwannRealityCheck/videos/one-on-one-wdr-judy-mikovits-truth-about-her-arrest-and-the-one-issue-media-cant/241884393587395/
Finally, I’d like to share the Statement on Federal Vaccine Mandates from the Association of American of Physicians and Surgeons, who vehemently oppose them and clearly delineate precisely why the public’s concerns regarding the safety and effectiveness of vaccines are completely valid.https://aapsonline.org/measles-outbreak-and-federal-vaccine-mandates/
It is quite irrelevant, did Dr Fauci meet Mikovits or call her. She lost her grant because she commited scientific fraud, as Orac explained. This is the thing you should comment instead.
Mikovits arrest warrant is here (scroll to exhibit 1).
https://silo.tips/download/united-states-district-court-central-district-of-california-los-angeles-division.
Mikovits and WPI settled out of the court, when she returned the stolen property.
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The American Association of Physicians and Surgeons’ nuttery goes way beyond hostility towards vaccination.
“…despite the lab coats and the official-sounding name, the docs of the AAPS are hardly part of mainstream medical society. Think Glenn Beck with an MD. The group (which did not return calls for comment for this story) has been around since 1943. Some of its former leaders were John Birchers, and its political philosophy comes straight out of Ayn Rand. Its general counsel is Andrew Schlafly, son of the legendary conservative activist Phyllis. The AAPS statement of principles declares that it is “evil” and “immoral” for physicians to participate in Medicare and Medicaid, and its journal is a repository for quackery. Its website features claims that tobacco taxes harm public health and electronic medical records are a form of “data control” like that employed by the East German secret police. An article on the AAPS website speculated that Barack Obama may have won the presidency by hypnotizing voters, especially cohorts known to be susceptible to “neurolinguistic programming”—that is, according to the writer, young people, educated people, and possibly Jews.”
http://motherjones.com/politics/2009/11/tea-party-doctors-american-association-physicians-surgeons
The AAPS also flogs discredited notions like abortion causing breast cancer, and spread the false story that illegal immigration caused a leprosy epidemic in the U.S.
As you might expect, the group is madly in love with hydroxychloroquine, claiming that it will help “90%” of Covid-19 patients (reality is demonstrating that the drug is ineffective for treating serious Covid-19 disease).
Two actual reviews of Mikovits’ book “Plague of Corruption” posted on Amazon in the past two days:
“You can’t discredit someone sharing her experience. It’s her experience! Either read the book or keep quiet”
and
“Can’t put it down! There has to be truth in this! There is no way someone could fabricate this much info. Wake up America!”
They’re out there.
Wow, Orac is so biased and ignorant of covid. Definitely propaganda from big pharma. Quote:
“The way the numbers are not reflecting reality is that COVID-19 is grossly underdiagnosed because not everyone with symptoms is tested and there are a lot of people out there dying of COVID-19-like illness who are never tested and never given a diagnosis of COVID-19. The excess death rates in March are strong evidence that a lot of people are dying of COVID-19 who are never diagnosed with COVID-19. No, the problem is not misclassification of some patient deaths as COVID-19 when they died of something else. That probably happens, but the numbers are FAR dwarfed by the number of deaths from what was almost certainly COVID-19 even though the patients were never diagnosed with COVID-19. I wouldn’t be surprised if the true number of people who’ve died of COVID-19 is 50-100% higher than the official numbers.”
This is so obnoxiously biased. There is no evidence at all more people than counted are dying of Covid and note Orac doesn’t provide that evidence. Doctors have been asked to count deaths that had nothing to do with covid just because they had the virus. Also, a vast number of the dying are elderly WITH underlying conditions. People who are healthy don’t die of just covid (very rare). They die of something they already have. Most were going to die in the short term given the average age of those dying are equal or above the average lifespan. BTW the oldest living survivor in the US is 107 years old and he’s a friend of my mom’s at her nursing home in St. Louis.
Hey, Orac, read these articles and learn something useful:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/22/nothing-can-justify-this-destruction-of-peoples-lives/
Heck, even the CDC is behind the curve. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the current “best estimate” for the fatality rate among Americans with COVID-19 symptoms is 0.4 percent. The CDC also estimates that 35 percent of people infected by the COVID-19 virus never develop symptoms. Those numbers imply that the virus kills less than 0.3 percent of people infected by it—far lower than the infection fatality rates (IFRs) assumed by the alarming projections that drove the initial government response to the epidemic, including broad business closure and stay-at-home orders.”
The story of the Diamond Princess cruise ship bolsters this view (you can’t find a better example of being locked down and having a test environment for the virus). Of the 3,711 people on board, about 20% have tested positive for the virus; less than half of those had symptoms, and eight died. A cruise ship is a perfect setting for contagion, and there was plenty of time for the virus to spread on board before anyone did anything about it, yet only a fifth were infected. Furthermore, the cruise ship’s population was heavily skewed (as are most cruise ships) toward the elderly: nearly a third of the passengers were over age 70, and more than half were over age 60. A research team concluded from the large number of asymptomatic cases that the true fatality rate in China is around 0.5%; more recent data (see above) indicates a figure closer to 0.2%.
John Ioannidis, a professor of medicine at Stanford University, raises some of these issues in a terrific post for Stat. Ioannidis wonders whether long-term and “draconian countermeasures” to combat coronavirus can be justified, given how uncertain they are to work and how little data we have about COVID-19’s true mortality rate: “The data collected so far on how many people are infected and how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable. Given the limited testing to date, some deaths and probably the vast majority of infections due to SARS-CoV-2 are being missed. We don’t know if we are failing to capture infections by a factor of three or 300. Three months after the outbreak emerged, most countries, including the U.S., lack the ability to test a large number of people and no countries have reliable data on the prevalence of the virus in a representative random sample of the general population. This evidence fiasco creates tremendous uncertainty about the risk of dying from Covid-19. Reported case fatality rates, like the official 3.4% rate from the World Health Organization, cause horror—and are meaningless. Patients who have been tested for SARS-CoV-2 are disproportionately those with severe symptoms and bad outcomes. As most health systems have limited testing capacity, selection bias may even worsen in the near future…..Projecting the Diamond Princess mortality rate onto the age structure of the U.S. population, the death rate among people infected with Covid-19 would be 0.125%. But since this estimate is based on extremely thin data—there were just seven deaths among the 700 infected passengers and crew—the real death rate could stretch from five times lower (0.025%) to five times higher (0.625%). It is also possible that some of the passengers who were infected might die later, and that tourists may have different frequencies of chronic diseases—a risk factor for worse outcomes with SARS-CoV-2 infection — than the general population. Adding these extra sources of uncertainty, reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio in the general U.S. population vary from 0.05% to 1%. That huge range markedly affects how severe the pandemic is and what should be done. A population-wide case fatality rate of 0.05% is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial consequences may be totally irrational. It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies.”
This was just a bad flu and Orac is trying to add to the hysteria.
On a final note:
“As of 2013, according to the FAO, five million children worldwide die every year of hunger; in 2018, 159 million children were stunted and 50 million were wasted. (Hunger was falling until recently, but has started to rise again in the last three years.) Five million is many times more people than have died so far from Covid-19, yet no government has declared a state of emergency or asked that we radically alter our way of life to save them. Nor do we see a comparable level of alarm and action around suicide – the mere tip of an iceberg of despair and depression – which kills over a million people a year globally and 50,000 in the USA. Or drug overdoses, which kill 70,000 in the USA, the autoimmunity epidemic, which affects 23.5 million (NIH figure) to 50 million (AARDA), or obesity, which afflicts well over 100 million. Why, for that matter, are we not in a frenzy about averting nuclear armageddon or ecological collapse, but, to the contrary, pursue choices that magnify those very dangers?” – Charles Eisenstein
Based on only Orac’s one statement above about covid, anyone can conclude Orac is ignorant and/or extremely biased.
Well, they must have taken her seriously, because they now screen the blood supply for XMRVs using Cyrex Technology (which she recommended) so we don’t have that contamination anymore. Shame they don’t do the same for vaccines.
Well, they must have taken her seriously, because they now screen the blood supply for XMRVs using Cyrex Technology
Somehow, I sorely doubt that the Arizona equivalent of Doctor’s Data has anything to do with the national blood supply.
Correction – it was Cerus Corporation the Blood Working Group used to screen for the retroviruses.
Oh, my aching head. You have justshot yourself in the foot. Moreover, thefull text of the “Blood Working Group” paper mentions Cerus exactly once — in the acknowledgements as a COI disclosure for author Steven Kleinman. (The acknowledgmentsdo, however, list the labs thatwere used.)
This is just silly. First, Cerusdoesn’t do that, although they did try to get on the XMRV bandwagon with their “INTERCEPT” pathogen inactivation system. Second, you’re citing the very paper (with Mikovits as coauthor) that put the final nail in the coffin of the whole freaking episode.
You are not refuting the fact that the blood supply is now screened thanks to her discovery. I am sorry to give you a sore heid, but facts are facts and it doesn’t really matter who deals with the contract for this – at least it’s getting done. Now away and have a wee lie down. P.S. My foot feels fine!
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