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Latest comment:7 years ago by 195.238.24.42 in topicWords sometimes get messed up when something is pasted
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You can use this page to tell the Wikimedia developers your ideas and issues about using the visual editor: this is the only feedback page actively monitored by WMF staff. TheContributors team welcomes your feedback and ideas, especially on user interface decisions and the priorities for adding new features.All comments are read, in any language, but personal replies are not guaranteed: the team will try and go through reports here at least once a week. Need more attention?Report directly in Phabricator.Please note that the Wikimedia Foundation does not provide support for installing VisualEditor on third-party wikis. Please report bugs involving Parsoid atTalk:Parsoid instead.

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I'm very happy about the new paste options

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Hey,

it has been some time ago that I had asked for a feature: A more obvious way topaste plain text than having to know the right keyboard shortcut. This appears to have been added today! Thank you very much! :)ToBeFree (talk)19:33, 3 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

You're welcome, ToBeFree. I'm sure that @Deskana (WMF) will be glad to hear it. I haven't made up my mind about this particular feature (personally), so it's nice to hear what other people are thinking about it.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)00:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
@ToBeFree Yes, I'm glad you like it! Let me know if there's suggestions or any other comments you have about it.Dan Garry, Wikimedia Foundation (talk)10:36, 5 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

'Show preview' does not show edit summary

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Tracked inPhabricator
Task T199582

Consider the following scenario:

1 - I make an edit using VisualEditor

2 - I click Show Preview.

In this instance, the edit summary is not shown in the preview. The main problem is that I might forget to initially add one; I may click Show Preview first to ensure that it looks fine and then immediately press Save. Additionally it does not give an opportunity to review any markup that I may have added to the edit summary (used to be possible in the wikimarkup era).

It would also be appreciated if a feature warning the user if the summary is blank and Save is pressed (after previewing), assuming that the edit is not minor).Leaderboard (talk)19:24, 10 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Leaderboard. Please go to the Editing tab for your preferences atb:en:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing, and look for "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary".
If you click "Review your changes", the edit summary is displayed. If you are in VisualEditor's wikitext mode (aka the2017 wikitext editor), then you can see the Preview, but there is no edit summary displayed there. I'll file a request to add that feature soon. Thank you for noticing this problem and letting me know about it.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)22:51, 13 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

VE doesn't respect existing wikitable code

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For table cells with short contents it is usually better for wikicode editors to have a whole table row in one wikicode row. However, the VE doesn't respect the existing code style and seems to prefer to create intractable wikicode.

Example:https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=N-term&curid=1671708&diff=51786440&oldid=51670969Bdijkstra (talk)08:42, 13 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

I think that this is a consequence ofhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139780 (in which the table completely breaks if someone tries to put two "paragraphs" into a table that has all cells in one line of wiktext).Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)18:38, 26 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
That could be, and completely breaking is a lot worse than bad readability of wikicode. However, that breakage could also have been solved by VE not allowing paragraphs in cells or VE changing the cell syntax only when necessary. Either of those would not hinder wikitext editors.Bdijkstra (talk)19:44, 26 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
If we didn't let people write multiple paragraphs/separate lines in a table cell, then I think we'd get a lot of complaints very quickly. Your second idea is more feasible from the POV of an editor.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)21:30, 26 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

JavaScript error when trying to create a post in Wikipedia:Teahouse

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Tracked inPhabricator
Task T200368

FromWikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/62.0

I tried to create a post in Wikipedia:Teahouse using the 'Click here to ask a question' button in the page. When I did that a JavaScript error showed up as a message similar to how CentralNotice messages show up in the side. The message stated about a TypeError.

TypeError: range is null

URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&action=edit&section=new Kaartic[talk]18:44, 13 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

It looks like this has been fixed. Please post again if it breaks again.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)21:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
I still get the JavaScript error when I visit the URL I posted initially. The browser console is logged withTypeError: range is null when I visit that page. Kaartic[talk]07:34, 21 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Do you have your editing prefs set to two tabs?Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)19:43, 25 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
I'm not sure about that pref. How would you do that? Nothing related caught my eyes in a cursory scan inSpecial:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. Hope I'm not missing anything obvious.
I just noted something now. When I visit the page the editing toolbar appears disabled. The toolbar also appears disabled in safemode but the JavaScript error is not shown in that case. Kaartic[talk]05:56, 26 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
SeeVisualEditor/Single edit tab#Choosing your preferences (beginning at "You can set or change these preferences at any time", after the large image).Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)14:44, 26 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
That's interesting. I don't find the preference inSpecial:Preferences of Mediawiki. I do find it in thew:Special:Preferences of Wikipedia.
To answer the actual question, it does seems to be set to two tabs. How is that related to the issue? I get the error regardless of the Preference for the "Editing tabs". Kaartic[talk]20:06, 27 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
One tab produces a URL that says&action=edit and two tabs produces one that says&veaction=edit. The link/button does the first.
Every now and again, there's been a bug that only appears for people with a particular configuration of tabs. That doesn't seem to be the case here, however.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)22:48, 27 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Does the toolbar look disabled after you click where you want to type?Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)14:45, 26 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Ok. It seems the toolbar is by default disabled for the "Subject" line. It isn't disabled when I click on the main editing interface. Didn't know this before. Kaartic[talk]19:51, 27 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Weird fuzzy effect when typing in the new source code editor

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In the "2017 source code editor" (I think that's what it's called - the one that works with VisualEditor), sometimes when typing in text that goes towards the edge of the screen, the text near the end of each line gets a bit 'fuzzy' with what looks like a misaligned shadow.Here's a screenshot of one example.

I'm on macOS 10.13.5, and this screenshot was taken in Firefox Developer Edition 61, but I've also had this issue in the latest stable Chrome. Thanks!Numbermaniac (talk)05:57, 14 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

There have been several similar problems with syntax highlighting. I think thatphab:T190720 might be the closest to yours.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)21:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
That looks similar to my issue, thanks!Numbermaniac (talk)07:15, 21 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Is there a way to change auto wrapping on HTML like code with <nowiki> ?

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Tracked inPhabricator
Task T200457

Hi,

I'm using VisualEditor on my wiki for an accesibility purpose. I'm stuck with a little issue :

I'm usingExtension_talk:Labeled_Section_Transclusion and so I have "<section>" tags like this in my pages, then when something is edited with VE even if it doesn't concern "<section>" tags it's wrapped like this "<nowiki><section ...></nowiki>. I guess VE is doing this beacause it's really close to HTML tags but that's not the case and that breaks my section transclusions.

I found a topic asking about a similar problem but I don't understand how to manage this : [[VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive/2014/09#h-Visual_Editor_Programming:_No__around_html_tags_please-2014-09-24T12:17:00.000Z]]Also note that [[Extension_talk:Labeled_Section_Transclusion]] doesn't support syntaxes like <nowiki>{{#tag:section|params}} that would also be a way to solve the problem.

Is there any way to whitelist "<section>" tags or something like this ?

Note : When VE loads page contents it shows "<section>" tags in text content as if it was only text & with wikitextEditor there is no problemSadwiki (talk)11:28, 14 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Stop VisualEditor scrolling the page down when inserting a hyperlink

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See:

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54526

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177660

Originally reported in October 2017here.

Is there any way to stop VisualEditor scrolling the page down when inserting a hyperlink, as in this screenshot: http://prntscr.com/h34uht? If not, can there at least be an option made for it? It's slower to work with and harder to immediately click on the first result.· • SUM1 • · (talk)10:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

which browser are you experiencing this with ? And have you tried disabling gadgets/userscripts and browser extensions ? —TheDJ (Not WMF) (talkcontribs)11:18, 19 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
@TheDJ It is my understanding that this is a feature of VisualEditor. When you attempt to insert a hyperlink, the page scrolls down to fit the entire dropdown menu on the screen. It also moves when the dropdown menu is closed. This happens in any browser or operating system (bare Chrome- and Firefox-tested).· • SUM1 • · (talk)11:29, 19 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

texte en couleur

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Agent utilisateur : Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_11_6) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/11.1.1 Safari/605.1.15

URL :https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPSL?veaction=editje n'ai pas réussi à affecter une couleur à certains mots... (à défaut j'ai utilisé les caractères gras)Misti83 (talk)18:21, 25 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

The visual editor does not apply colors to words.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)20:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Words sometimes get messed up when something is pasted

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Tracked inPhabricator
Task T200107

Originally pasted here:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback&diff=846950983&oldid=846950909

DescriptionPasting distorts the words in the sentence around it.
Intention:I was trying to paste a sentence
Steps to Reproduce:#First open up a page with visual editor
  1. Then copy something
  2. Finally paste it onto another page where the visual editor is already active.
Results:The words got jumbled into a bunch of gibberish. E.g. in thisdiff, "Prior to this ban, there were debates" was changed to "T Prior to teis ban, thre hweredebates"
Expectations:The reference to be pasted properly.
Page where the issue occursSome pages whenever Visual Editor is open, but occurs randomly.
Web browserGoogle Chrome Version 67.0.3396.87 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Operating systemWindows 10
SkinVector

I don't know why this occurred. A fix or workaround would be appreciated. Thanks.Epic Genius (talk)17:33, 27 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Is this still happening?
Does it happen if you're editing insafemode?Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)21:01, 20 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Whatamidoing (WMF) I haven't encountered this problem in a while, as it only happens sporadically.
Edit: To clarify, I haven't seen this problem since I last posted this. However, it does happen once in a while, especially when I make large changes, or copy and paste references.Epic Genius (talk)21:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
I've had this kind of symptom happen here (i.e., in Flow replies), but I can't figure out how to trigger it on purpose (and it might not require pasting anything). I'll file a "placeholder" task in Phabricator, just in case we come up with some more information.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)21:16, 20 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
I have also encountered this issue. Not only by copy pasting, but also by typing a text (which looks fine) and then saving (which has some letters in the incorrect spot). While typing, I would then notice the editor sometimes jerking to the top of the page and then back to the place being edited195.238.24.42 (talk)08:50, 9 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
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