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Latest comment:10 years ago by Jdforrester (WMF) in topicAmazing, but wait...
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Visual Editor Fails To Load Unknown dependency: mediawiki.language.specialCharacters

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It has been really difficult to get this far but it seems the visual editor is finally loading up correctly...well kinda. The loading bar gets about 75% of the way across then it freezes. There are no php errors just a single error in the browsers console

Uncaught Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.language.specialCharacters

load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=20150502T1…:156

Im currently running 1.24.2. It seems like an obvious solution, but i dont know where to get and add to the dependency to95.45.40.1613:24, 2 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Seems to me like you have a version of VisualEditor that is newer than the your MediaWiki Core, since mediawiki.language.specialCharacters was introduced in 1.25. You need to use the same version of core and extensions. —TheDJ (Not WMF) (talkcontribs)10:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Citing by identifier

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Hi!I like how the citing template in the non-visual editor lets you search the source by isbn or doi and fills in the rest of the info. That's the main reason i use "edit source" more. Is there anyway to make this feature available in the visual editor?--Frederika Eilers (talk)15:02, 2 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi Frederika. Several DOIsshould be already working in Citoid (if you find any which don't, please report them here!). Support for ISBNis definitely planned. Thank you,Elitre (WMF) (talk)06:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

If VE opens slowly

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Recently was news that VE now rapidly opens. But for me it was not working. Every time I open a new wiki page and opened VE, for VE loads big js-file. I have long been using the visual editor in the firefox. Disable add-ons did not help, menu-options-privacy-delete cookies and delete cookies for ru.wikipedia.org not help. For me, it helped privacy-delete cookies and delete all cookies. Maybe it will help somebody else.

@Elitre (WMF):VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive/2015/04#c-Elitre_(WMF)-2015-04-21T18:44:00.000Z-Feedback I do not know because of what it was, but now, after removing all cookies VE opens quickly :)Сунприат (talk)12:47, 9 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for this update. I was having some problems last week in Firefox; do any of the problems describedhere seem familiar to you?Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)02:42, 22 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
No. Now I use only css and gadgets (which turns on and off when I need to), and all js-scripts put in my second account. So everything works a little faster.Сунприат (talk)07:42, 22 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

visual editor and wikionary

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i would love visual editor to be on Wiktionary and simple WiktionaryJonnymoon96 (talk)02:06, 14 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Seemeta:Requesting wiki configuration changes.Helder16:30, 21 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Wiktionary is especially heavy in its use of templates, which is not VisualEditor's single most developed workflow.
There was a request last year from the English Wiktionary to allow only admins to opt-in via Beta Features, but this isn't possible. At this point, the team is likely to require evidence of community consensus. You might check in with the Swedish Wiktionary to see what they would recommend. It's been (opt-in only) there since late 2013.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)02:39, 22 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

issue with <tag> extension

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In a private wiki (1.24.2) i have a self programmed extension that adds a new tag to wiki language, example: <mytag>The extension does return its content wrapped in <div></div> and therefore is editable via visual editor. Everything is working perfectly as long as i use a "begin"-tag and a "end"-tag with some content in between, like:

<mytag option="value">sometext</mytag>

In many cases it is not needed at all to have some content between begin and end tag, so it is possible to write the tag in "short" notation, like:

<mytag option="value" />

However when the "short" notation is used, after editing the tag with visual editor and nothing has been added in content field (is still empty), the complete tag will be removed.

Is this a known limitation of visual editor or do i need to fix my extension to make it properly editable in visual editor ?

Thanks for any hint in right direction.Pzirnik (talk)15:19, 19 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Well, I don't know, so I've filed a bug report just in case. At least in theory it ought to be possible, because the <references /> tag is supported.User:Neil P. Quinn-WMF might be able to track down the answer.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)02:56, 22 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

YES!! A huge improvement over the traditional editor

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Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

We've been using WYSIWYG editing in tons of programs for years. It slayed me the first time that I went to edit/write something in Wikipedia when I encountered the regular editor. While I've gotten used to it over time, the beta option is a giant leap forward. Nearly does away for the need of the preview button, though I like the idea that you kept the Edit Source option.

Hope this gets implemented soon!Robertjm (talk)15:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thank you,Robertjm for this comment.
I assume you are active on English Wikipedia, where VisualEditor is availableas a beta feature.Trizek (WMF) (talk)14:48, 27 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Amazing, but wait...

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This is a HUGE improvement over last editor. My only problem is with editing within the profile box section; for some reason you no longer have access too usual advanced editing tool (font size, adding references, inserting breaks etc. - it now has to be done manually (or of course through 'edit source')).Heuh0 (talk)20:58, 31 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi Heuh0, If I understand correctly, you're describing how editing the templates in the top-right corner of many articles (akaInfobox), gives us the template-editor window (e.g.https://i.imgur.com/xmHMQu4.png ) which itself then requires wikitext/source inside it.
If that's right, then the issue is tracked atphab:T52182 ("VisualEditor: Add support for making some templates directly "visually editable" in the DOM, as if they were tables (e.g. infoboxes)"), and is on the planned feature list (but seems to be proving itself a harder challenge than first thought). Thanks for the feedback. :)Quiddity (WMF) (talk)03:55, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Actually, that'sphab:T52355 ("Add support for editing templates' parameters as DOM elements, including supporting nested templates") which is very hard (but not quite as hard as T52182).Jdforrester (WMF) (talk)21:25, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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