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Change to translatewiki.net/Miraheze-Meta page translation target languages

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Currently, the page translation target language configuration on mediawiki.org wereinherited from the "language converter page translation model".

However, this actually created several problems including the broken page transclutions with malfunctioned language converter tags exposed and using the workaround ofTemplate:Conversion-zh,Template:LC zh. More breakages could be found onphab:T328838.

I would like to propose to use the"translatewiki.net page translation model"/"Miraheze Meta page translation model" instead on mediawiki.org after the relatedproposal had been discussed, supported and approved andchanges had been done on Wikifunctions.

Below are examples of the proposed translation model.

More briefly for thezh part: The old configuration can only translate intozh while the new configuration can translate intozh-hans (forzh-Hans-CN,zh-Hans-MY,zh-Hans-SG),zh-hant (forzh-Hant-TW) andzh-hk (forzh-Hant-HK,zh-Hant-MO).

Note: "translatewiki.net page translation model"/"Miraheze Meta page translation model" refer to the same translation model.

--Winston Sung (talk)08:02, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Pinging @Aaron Liu @Anterdc99 @AromaTake @Cookai1205 @Diskdance @Lakejason0 @LowensteinYang @MilkyDefer @SolidBlock @Stang @Xiplus @魔琴 --Winston Sung (talk)15:02, 2 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I've added my comments on the associated Phabricator task you linked, which is basically about doing the same thing on every multilingual wiki. TL;DR: I'm opposed because as it currently stands, this proposal would quadruple the work of translators.Aaron Liu (talk)16:18, 2 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'd say rather than doing this, we sort of finding a way to actually implement the NoteTA (manual conversion RULES, so not quadrupling the work but actively using the LC model) for content page. --Lakejason0 (talk)17:03, 2 August 2025 (UTC)(edited at 17:05, 2 August 2025 (UTC))Reply
Without using /zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-hk, we have to pass the language tag every time using message bundle messages.
-- Wrapping all of them under /zh using {{LC zh|, without using /zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-hktmb.new(mb_page_title,lang_tag):t(message_key):params(lang_tag):plain()
-- Using separated /zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-hk, we no longer need to pass the language tag :params( lang_tag ) every timetmb.new(mb_page_title,lang_tag):t(message_key):plain()
With this change, every Lua module using translation bundles can be simplified:
- :t( message_key ):params( lang_tag ):plain()+ :t( message_key ):plain()
Without this change, every Lua module using translation bundles need to:
- :t( message_key ):plain()+ :t( message_key ):params( lang_tag ):plain()
--Winston Sung (talk)04:44, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
This is a problem, but more one for something likeT196501 or something else that allows for fetching the current page variant under Lua.Aaron Liu (talk)22:33, 6 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Even ifT196501 is solved, you still have no way to either get the requested language tag or pass the lang_tag parameter because we are currently using$1 instead of{{{lang|}}}, which make the message bundle messages to be something different like{{{lang|$1}}}. --Winston Sung (talk)08:41, 8 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I don't think I understand. As long as lang is set to the needed value somewhere, it should work if we can get all the parent frames, even if it is input by the parser.Aaron Liu (talk)21:42, 9 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
There might be some misunderstandings.
You can only get "template arguments" like{{{1|}}} afterT196501 being solved so we no longer need to write{{LC zh|lang={{{lang|}}}|
However, "system message arguments"/"interface message arguments" like$1 are never something can be get fromframe:getParent().args without either creating new methods to theframe object or still writing{{LC zh|lang= $1| in Wikitext.
:t(message_key):params(lang_tag) use the "system message argument API" instead of "template argument API".
--Winston Sung (talk)13:06, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Future timestamp to prevent automatic archive to unresolved discusstion topic. --Winston Sung (talk)00:00, 1 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Report concerning User:Tvpuppy loses, ChanComThemPho wins

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There's not much point in reporting accounts with zero edits to the local admins here absent some reason to think they will specifically target MediaWiki.org. Just report to the stewards and move on.* Pppery *it has begun15:57, 14 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Please protectMediaWiki 1.45/Roadmap: Excessive vandalismNvdtn19 (talk)16:57, 14 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

YesDoneQuiddity (WMF) (talk)18:43, 14 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Report concerning User:~2025-28855-08

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Blocked.* Pppery *it has begun00:00, 15 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Report concerning user ~2025-28949-94

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I've deleted the translation units they created. There are some modifications in existing units that, looking more closely, seem to be better (but mind you I don't know Galician language, only because it's close to Spanish). You may want to take a look at those.Ciencia Al Poder (talk)18:03, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

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YesDone --Clump (talk)11:05, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Help us decide the name of the new Abstract Wikipedia project

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Hello. Please help pick a name for the new Abstract Wikipedia wiki project. This project will be a wiki that will enable users to combine functions fromWikifunctions and data from Wikidata in order to generate natural language sentences in any supported languages. These sentences can then be used by any Wikipedia (or elsewhere).

There will be two rounds of voting, each followed by legal review of candidates, with votes beginning on 20 October and 17 November 2025. Our goal is to have a final project name selected on mid-December 2025. If you would like to participate, thenplease learn more and vote now at meta-wiki.Thank you!


--User:Sannita (WMF) (talk)11:42, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Duplicate IDs in MediaWiki

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What I can say here is that I'm seeingSpecial:LintErrors/duplicate-ids having so many lists. Mostly from other languages that useTranslate extension. I'm not sure if somebody has already filed out this track on Phabricator.

Theid attributes in other language pages are just making them same while English one doesn't (it starts with "sectionname_number"). I hope this issue gets fixed. —Baris6161TURK (talk)21:29, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Report concerning User:Beerftwweb

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I added a MediaWiki site to the list ofSites_using_MediaWiki which is permitted, thus it isn't spamBeerftwweb (talk)21:54, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Indeed, it looks currently limited/nascent, but not spam. --Clump (talk)11:13, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you.
Are you able to revert the rollback? I don't want to get into an edit war myself by re-applying the same change.Beerftwweb (talk)11:23, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Blocked by KonstantinaG07.* Pppery *it has begun01:15, 22 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hide edit summary

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Please hide[1]. Thanks.Henrydat (talk)13:56, 22 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

YesDone --Clump (talk)14:01, 22 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks again.Henrydat (talk)14:04, 22 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Also for others[2],[3],[4],[5].Henrydat (talk)01:22, 23 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
YesDone --Clump (talk)10:57, 23 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

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YesDone, thanks!Ciencia Al Poder (talk)22:59, 22 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

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YesDone --Clump (talk)10:57, 23 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

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