Adding Key and BPM parameters[edit]

This is something I noticed is done on Inkipedia, and I think it might be useful.Splatoon's music is a lot more in-depth, so they need a lot of info in their music infobox (for example, in-universe bands and performers), but having the key and BPM in the infobox would, I think, be the most immediately useful for our purposes. That way, we don't need to mention it in the write-ups. We could add other things like genre if we wanted to, but right now this small thing is all I'm thinking about. Any opinions?StarPunch (talk) 21:46, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I believe we discussed this a while ago informally on Discord and there was a general agreement, and I agree. My biggest question is regarding songs that change keys and BPM, do we list the main key/BPM? -Gigi (talk •edits) 21:50, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I think that's generally the way Inkipedia does it, yeah. For songs where it changes we could keep the details in the text, but just use the main BPM and key in the infobox (so for exampleSullied Grace would be listed as 180 BPM, andNature's Navel (theme) would be listed as G minor, but the changes would be mentioned in the text).StarPunch (talk) 21:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

First of all, I think that the argument of "not needing to include it in write-ups" is unlikely to stand well, because either a piece modulates and needs to mention a key change (which requires a comparison), or it is centered around one key, in which case terms like "tonic" or "dominant" are crucial, which in and of themselves are relative to their key. Second of all, while not always, key and tempo are uncertain. Even if at first glance you'd think BPM is stable, I'd like to explain that "beats per minute" are defined by time signatures. We don't know if themes are intended as 2/4 or 4/4 except by analyzing their structure from aclassical period perspective, or 2/4 with triplets vs 6/8, or swung 4/4 vs 12/8. The first number of time signatures are the number of beats per bar, which we would need to establish arbitrarily. That's not to mention keys, where Dorian and Lydian, Mixolydian and melodic major, relative keys all become a matter of interpretation. Granted, we list these under composition sections, but (imo) infoboxes are for strictly factual information. Music is an abstract art, it is often up to interpretation. That being said and considered, I'm not strictly opposed to mentioning the stuff in an infobox, just worried that it's too specific, arbitrary and, frankly, unnecessary.ShadowKirby (t/c)a.k.a. your new overlordShadowMagolor 13:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, I suppose that's fair.StarPunch (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)