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With regard toUser talk:Junekramer1, the editor appears to both have a COI with Paul Bilzerian (edit history, tookthe photo of subject).

And has now repeatedlydeleted large amounts of cited material from thePaul Bilzerian.

And in an effort to keep that article with the cited material deleted -has asked for page protection perhaps to keep their preferred version of the page - with proper material deleted - intact. What is the best path forward to address this? Thank you.184.153.21.19 (talk)16:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It would be better to post this atWP:COIN, rather than here. --Tryptofish (talk)18:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Connected contributor

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The following Wikipediacontributor may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this page. Relevant policies and guidelines may includeconflict of interest,autobiography, andneutral point of view.
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Caccavaleelio (talk)22:42, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Caccavaleelio: You posted this in the wrong place. It should go on the talk page of thearticle where you have a COI. If you just did this as a test edit, this can all be reverted. --Tryptofish (talk)22:47, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm so sorry but I'm not what you mean. Can you please explain it step by step, so it clearer. Sorry!Caccavaleelio (talk)23:19, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i create the page to describe my professional profile. I'm a senior academic with an international profile and the information provided is cited. I declare that I've a conflict of interest but the details described are genuine and cited.Caccavaleelio (talk)23:28, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The place to post the "connected contributor" template is atDraft talk:Elio Caccavale, not here.
You need to carefully read and understand: this guideline page (ieWP:COI),WP:Autobiography, andWP:PROF.
You can also ask questions of the reviewers and other editors who have posted atDraft:Elio Caccavale andDraft talk:Elio Caccavale. I've looked at what they have posted there, and I think everything that they have said to you is correct. You need to understand that Wikipedia has rules about the kind of article you want to create, and it's possible that you might not be able to get your draft accepted, in the way that you are doing. --Tryptofish (talk)22:56, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Negative COIs

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I notice this page says nothing about "negative" conflicts of interest. An example of a "negative" COI would be adding negative information about an entity you've had a real-life dispute with, such as a company you are currently taking legal action against or were fired from or such. Maybe there are other pages that cover this type of COI that I'm missing, but would there be any objection to me adding some information on negative COIs here?Moneytrees🏝️(Talk)17:44, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a good idea. I'm a bit ambivalent, however, about the "negative" jargon, because the thing that is negative is arguably the content added, rather than the COI itself. --Tryptofish (talk)19:01, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Moneytrees Not quite "nothing", as there's a little under theWP:COIBLP section (and, on the BLP page, atWP:BLPCOI no I don't hate that those acronyms are virtually indistinguishable, why do you ask) but oh please *do* expand stuff.GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋20:18, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no difference between a "positive" and a "negative" conflict of interest. Both are the same thing, except they may result in different content. COI is COI, whether the editor is a fanboy, an employee, or a dissatisfied customer. Let's not make this any more complicated than it has to be.Risker (talk)01:01, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Risker To be clear, we’re in agreement; I just want our guidelines to be clear that neither are acceptable. I brought this up because via COIVRT I’ve come across editors who think they don’t have a COI when they’re taking legal action against a company or in a real life dispute with someone because they aren’t adding “positive” content to an article.Moneytrees🏝️(Talk)01:20, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are some ArbCom decisions discussing this point that may be useful. It's late here, but I'll post some links tomorrow. Regards,Newyorkbrad (talk)03:30, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see, for example,Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manipulation of BLPs (2011, principles 5 and 6);Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles (2018, principles 10 and 11); andWikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing (2022, principle 5). The arbitrators' comments on the proposed decision pages may also be useful. Regards,Newyorkbrad (talk)18:40, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bengali
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Bishnupriya Manipuri
বিষ্ণুপ্রিয়া মণিপুরী
RegionPrimarily NortheastIndia andBangladesh
EthnicityBishnupriyas
Native speakers
119,646 total speakers
Early form
Bengali-Assamese script[6][7]
Language codes
ISO 639-3bpy
Glottologbish1244

Bishnupriya Manipuri it is a language of the Indo-Aryan family spoken in Manipur[8], Assam, Tripura of India[9] and some parts of Bangladesh and Myanmar. It is a language similar to many Indo-Aryan languages ​​such as Marathi, Bengali, Oriya, Assamese and Vedic Sanskrit etc.This language originated and developed in the ancient state of Manipur and was initially confined to the surroundings of a lake called Loktak. Other authorities such as An Account of the Valley of Manipur by Colonel McCullock, Descriptive Anthropology of Bengal by E. T. Dalton and the Linguistic Survey of India by George Abraham Grierson mention that the language existed in Manipur before the 19th century.Dr. Grierson calls the language "Bishnupuria Manipuri", while some other writers call it "Bishnupriya" or "Bishnupuriya". The 'Bishnupriya Manipuri' community is considered to be the ancient caste of the state of Manipur of the Mahabharata era.

History and development

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Most of the Bishnupriya Manipuri people migrated from Manipur and took refuge in Assam, Tripura, Sylhet and Cachar during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries due to internal conflicts among the princes of Manipur and the Burmese invasions. Most of the Bishnupriya Manipuri people migrated from Manipur and took refuge in Assam, Tripura, Sylhet and Cachar during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries due to internal conflicts among the princes of Manipur and the Burmese invasions.As a result, it was difficult for the small number of Bishnupriyas who remained in Manipur to maintain their language in the face of Manipuri influence, although in 1891 Dr. G.A.Giresun found the existence of a considerable number of speakers in two or three villages near Bishnupur, locally called Lamangdong. The language is slowly losing its ground in Manipur against the vast majority of the Meitei sect and is facing gradual decay in Cachar and Bangladesh against the vast majority of Bengali speakers. The language is still spoken in Jiribam (a subdivision of Manipur), Cachar (a district in Assam) and some areas of Tripura and Bangladesh.[10]

Source and origin

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The language is known to its speakers as (ইমার থার), meaning "my mother's language." They call themselves and their language Bishnupriya Manipuri, and use the term Bishnupriya to distinguish themselves from other caste groups in Manipur. The word Bishnupriya is probably derived from Bishnupur (the ancient capital of Manipur)[11], with the suffix -ya, meaning "people of Bishnupur". Bishnupriya Manipuri believes that the Bishnupriya language was brought by some immigrants from Dwaraka and Hastinapur soon after the Mahabharata war. It is further stated that these immigrants were led by Chitragada and Babruvahana, son of Arjuna and the third Pandava Arjuna. Some scholars and historians have supported the origin of Bishnupriya Manipuri from ancient Manipur of the Mahabharata period by observing the morphology, vibronics, and phonology of the Bishnupriya Manipuri language. Bishnupriya Manipuris believe that their language is heavily influenced by Sanskrit and Magadhi Prakrit as well as Sauraseni Prakrit. Dr. Kaliprasad Sinha, who has done extensive research on Bishnupriya Manipuri, disagrees with this theory and is of the opinion that the language originated through Magadhi Prakrit. It has been found from his observations that the language has retained the major features of Magadhi. According to Dr. Sinha, the pronouns and lexical and conjugative endings are similar or closely related to those of Maithili, Oriya, Bengali and Assamese. These forms of Oriya, Bengali and Assamese are, on their part, derived from the Magadhi Apurmas that come from the Magadhi Prakrit.

Conflict of classification as a dialect of Bengali and Assamese

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Several scholars and linguists opine Bishnupriya as a dialect ofBengali language while many opine it as a dialect ofAssamese language. At the same time, closer to the observations of the status of being a Bengali dialect, many renowned scholars opine Bishnupriya as acreole language (mixed language) ofBengali language andMeitei language, by retaining its pre-Bengali features in present times.

After all, This language, which greatly differs from the Meitei (Manipuri) language, a language of the Tibeto-Burman group is little known abroad for the paucity of a rich literature.[12]

Bishnupriya as a dialect of Bengali

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Suniti Kumar Chatterjee's opinion

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RenownedPadma Vibhushan awardee Indian linguistSuniti Kumar Chatterji who is also a recognised Bengali phonetician, listed the Bishnupriya Manipuri to be a dialect ofBengali language.[13]

Bishnupriya as a Bengali-Meitei creole

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According to scholar William Frawley, Bishnupriya was once acreole language ofBengali andMeitei and it still retains its pre-Bengali features.[14] American linguist and professorMasica also has the same opinion like that of William.[15]

According toShobhana Chelliah, Bishnupriya Manipuri is amixed language spoken by former Bengali immigrants, having significant amount of Meitei lexicons. Bishnupriya still retains its basic Bengali structural and morphological features.[16]

Bishnupriya as a dialect of Assamese

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Several Irish and Indian linguists and scholars includingGeorge Abraham Grierson,Maheswar Neog andBanikanta Kakati opine Bishnupriya as a dialect ofAssamese language.[13][17]

Linguistic survey of India

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According to theLinguistic Survey of India led by Grierson, "Bishnupriya" alias "Mayang" (Code no. 555) is a dialect ofAssamese language (Code no. 552).[13]

Vocabulary

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Like other Indic languages, the core vocabulary of Bishnupriya Manipuri is made up oftadbhava words (i.e. words inherited over time from older Indic languages, including Sanskrit, including many historical changes in grammar and pronunciation), although thousands oftatsama words (i.e. words that were re-borrowed directly from Sanskrit with little phonetic or grammatical change) augment the vocabulary greatly. In addition, many other words were borrowed from languages spoken in the region either natively or as a colonial language, including Meitei, English, and Perso-Arabic.[citation needed]

  • Inherited/native Indic words (tadbhava): 10,000 (Of these, 2,000 are only found in Bishnupriya Manipuri, and have not been inherited by other Indic languages)
  • Words re-borrowed from Sanskrit (tatsama): 10,000
  • Words re-borrowed from Sanskrit, partially modified (ardhatatsama): 1,500
  • Words borrowed from Meitei: 4000[18]
  • Words borrowed from other indigenous non-Indic languages (desi): 1,500
  • Words borrowed from Perso-Arabic: 2,000
  • Words borrowed from English: 700
  • Hybrid words: 1,000
  • Words of obscure origin: 1,300 }}

References

  1. ^ab"Abstract of Speakers' Strength of Languages and Mother Tongues - 2011"(PDF).censusindia.gov.in. Archived fromthe original(PDF) on 20 February 2022. Retrieved12 June 2022.
  2. ^"C-16: Population by mother tongue - Assam".censusindia.gov.in. Retrieved12 June 2022.
  3. ^"C-16: Population by mother tongue - Tripura".censusindia.gov.in. Retrieved12 June 2022.
  4. ^"C-16: Population by mother tongue - Manipur".censusindia.gov.in. Retrieved12 June 2022.
  5. ^"Census of India - Language tools". Archived fromthe original on 24 April 2021.
  6. ^abc"Bishnupuriya".Ethnologue. Retrieved12 June 2022.
  7. ^Kim, Amy; Kim, Seung.Bishnupriya (Manipuri) speakers in Bangladesh: a sociolinguistic survey(PDF). SIL INTERNATIONAL. p. 11. Retrieved4 October 2020.
  8. ^https://www.britannica.com/place/Indian-subcontinent
  9. ^https://tripuraassembly.nic.in/short%20history%20of%20tla.pdf
  10. ^https://hiwiki.iiit.ac.in/index.php/%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A3%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE_%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%A3%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80
  11. ^https://bishnupriyamanipurisahityasabha.com/bm-language/
  12. ^https://www.endangeredlanguages.com/lang/1246/samples/11735
  13. ^abcSanajaoba, Naorem (1988).Manipur, Past and Present: The Heritage and Ordeals of a Civilization. Mittal Publications. p. 152.ISBN 978-81-7099-853-2.
  14. ^Cite error:The named referenceFrawley 2003 481 was invoked but never defined (see thehelp page).
  15. ^Cite error:The named referenceHaokip 2011 8 was invoked but never defined (see thehelp page).
  16. ^Cite error:The named referenceAtlas of the World's Languages was invoked but never defined (see thehelp page).
  17. ^Singh, Nagendra Kr; Samiuddin, Abida (2003).Encyclopaedic Historiography of the Muslim World. Global Vision Publishing House.ISBN 978-81-87746-54-6.
  18. ^Gelbukh, Alexander (18 April 2014).Computational Linguistics and Intelligent Text Processing: 15th International Conference, CICLing 2014, Kathmandu, Nepal, April 6-12, 2014, Proceedings, Part I. Springer. p. 207.ISBN 978-3-642-54906-9.

BhartiyaGraminUdyog (talk)14:46, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BhartiyaGraminUdyog: This page is to discuss changes to theconflict of interest guidelines themselves, not for issues with specific articles. The proper way to do this is through theedit request process.
Please be aware that no single editor or group of editors has any right ofownership or control over an article's content. Editors mustassume good faith of their fellow contributors, and work together to achieveconsensus within Wikipedia'spolicies and guidelines. --Drm310🍁 (talk)15:03, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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