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Template:PoolGuy has beennominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion atthe entry on the Templates for discussion page.Izno (talk)18:57, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I will ask you this outside of COIN. What was the reason for the self-reporting to COIN? You movedUser:Stifle/Charity Bank in 2020 and everything seemed static. --SVTCobra15:06, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My boss randomly asked me how the article was going and I looked back in the email chain from 2020, saw that nothing had happened, refreshed myself on the rules for paid editing to see if I could brief a colleague on how to start the ball rolling again, and then realised I was in breach of the admin rules. Charity Bank has high ethical standards so I felt that it was necessary to own up.Stifle (talk)15:09, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you are definitelyWP:PE besides theWP:COI. While Alex may be right in COIN, you just said it was an assignment in your job. Nevertheless, Google's AI is thwarting me in searching for news on your bank. How small is it? Is online only? What is the AUM and how many employees? --SVTCobra15:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Charity Bank has assets of approximately a quarter of a billion GBP. It has very limited online operations, mainly operating in person and by telephone. There are 50-60 employees.Stifle (talk)15:52, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, I expecting to hear it was all online. BTW, I'd feel better if you let me take it into draftspace before editing. --SVTCobra16:04, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am not opposed to that as a concept, but I don't want to start the 6-month clock running until I know that someone is going to actually start editing it :)Stifle (talk)16:12, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I leave it to you. --SVTCobra16:15, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi@Stifle:, I am pleased to present my views infront of you. I personally requested you to moved back tothis article toAhmedabad IPL Team. Thank you!Fade258 (talk)11:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. Move protection is not an endorsement of the current page version; it is in place to stop people moving the page back and forth pointlessly.Stifle (talk)12:24, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Thank you !Fade258 (talk)12:30, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

how are you doing— Precedingunsigned comment added by12.153.230.222 (talk)16:00, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Stifle. I opened this CfD[1] some time. Although everyone voiced support, it hasn't been closed/implemented yet. Would you be willing to take a look? Thanks, -LouisAragon (talk)23:14, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm out of practice with CFDs; tryWP:ANRFC.Stifle (talk)16:33, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File talk:Aardakh 1944.jpg, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated fordeletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments atWikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/File talk:Aardakh 1944.jpg and please be sure tosign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content ofFile talk:Aardakh 1944.jpg during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.Alaexis_¿question?12:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Stifle,

You know, my recent experiences at Deletion Review confirm to me what I have suspected about CSD G4, articles tagged and sitting inCategory:Candidates for speedy deletion as pages previously deleted via deletion discussion can sit there for days before there is an admin who will take action on them. It's one of the most neglected speedy deletion categories. Other CSD categories get regularly cleared out throughout the day but articles sit in this one for hours and days. There are too many potential minefields and being taken to Deletion review over what you thought was a fair decision is not a pleasant experience even when one is honest, open and forthcoming with responses.

I believe in transparency and admin accountability. But I think I'll join the other admins who avoid evaluating pages tagged CSD G4 because our judgment calls will just bring us to Deletion review. None of my other deletions on articles in other CSD categories, PRODs or AFDs have been questioned at DR so I guess I'm a decent admin but not a good judge of what qualifies as a legitimate CSD G4 tagging.

It would be helpful if you worked into your editing schedule a review of articles tagged CSD G4. They could use some attention from an admin who apparently has a keener sense of what qualifies as recreated page and is eligible for deletion and what doesn't. We could use the extra help! Thank you.Liz^Read!Talk!23:25, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll try to go there from time to time.Stifle (talk)17:59, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That would be great, Stifle.

And there is a shortage of admins closing AFDs, an admin activity which I had little experience with until January. But every time I check the deletion pages (AFDs, TFDs, RFDs, CFDs), there are plenty of discussions to close. I don't know what happened to the admins who used to do this because I see the same 4 or 5 admins closing all of the discussions. And I think for the project, it would be healthier to see a lot of admins closing a few discussions each rather than a handful closing most of them. But after my experience at Deletion Review, I'm reluctant to close any discussion that might be controversial. I understand about admin accountability but it is no fun to get called to Deletion Review for what you thought was a straight-forward decision and get scrutinized. I guess that possibility just comes with the job. Take care.Liz^Read!Talk!03:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think we just have insufficient admins nowadays.Stifle (talk)21:14, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofBrett Perlmutter. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.Ksoze1 (talk)14:58, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Stifle,

Just letting you know (respectfully) that I am requesting a deletion review of your closure of Brett Perlmutter's deletion nomination. I do believe consensus was reached, as the only account arguing to keep the page was the creator of the account themself, who has made few other edits to wikipedia other than that page. When accounting for that, consensus appeared to be for deletion, with the possible merging of select data into another page.

I requested the review without consulting you first based on you stating in your talk page that this was your preference. Thank you for your continued excellent work as an admin!— Precedingunsigned comment added byKsoze1 (talk •contribs)14:56, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Stifle! On behalf of theBirthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy 14th anniversary of yoursuccessful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day!{{u|Sdkb}} talk07:31, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WishingStifle a veryhappy adminship anniversary on behalf of theBirthday Committee! Best wishes!CAPTAIN RAJU^(T)11:34, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Care you explain how is this a keep given that there was no consensus that the topic is notable, most of the keep arguments simply said "it's notable", and nobody refuted the idea that the article violates NOT and REALWORLD (aside from special pleading)?Avilich (talk)01:19, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no possibility that this deletion discussion could reasonably have been closed any other way, based on the number and weight of arguments. Feel free to go to DRV.Stifle (talk)10:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, no consensus? A substantial number of participants felt that the sourcing was inadequate, or that the NOT policy was not being complied with (which would have invalidated notability concerns), and none of the arguments against that were well addressed (unless you think pure headcounts should be decisive). The only way you can say that it couldn't have been closed any other way is if you pretend these participants don't exist.Avilich (talk)14:15, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you would be satisfied with no-consensus I'm open to considering amending to that, but obviously the article will still be kept. Or you could consider merging it, an option I explicitly mentioned as possible in my closure.Stifle (talk)14:21, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you can amend it to no consensus, I'll call it a day. I mention this because, despite your explicit mention of the possibility of a merger, one editor in the talk page is already taking notability for granted based on the 'keep' closure, ignoring your subsequent comments, and some people can be stubborn with this. A 'no consensus' would eliminate confusion and, strictly speaking, be more accurate.Avilich (talk)14:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, done. Have a good day.Stifle (talk)14:44, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.Avilich (talk)14:47, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would you consider a similar move to "no consensus" at this AfD? Your closure says that the references "have been adequately debated" but in reality, not a single argument showing why the references fail was responded to - can't describe that as a debate. On another day its possible this might have been closed with the reason that the "weight" of argument favours Delete. HighKing⁺⁺19:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• In this case, I don't think I will. There is only the nominator and one other person supporting deletion, and the comments indicate that people have taken policy into account in making them. It is not for me as closer to determine that contributors have interpreted and applied policy wrongly; I can only discount them if their comments areclearly inconsistent.
  I note you were in favour of a redirect, and my closure doesn't prevent that.Stifle (talk)12:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, thanks for considering at least. I don't agree when you say that "comments indicate that people have taken policy into account" in relation to Keep !votes. Only the last Keep !vote references any guidelines. But it was a poor AfD in any case so no probs with your decision, just asked if a No Consensus might be more appropriate. Thanks again. HighKing⁺⁺19:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Stifle. Doesthis ring a bell? —Marchjuly (talk)10:23, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No. Rather odd. Already been reverted by someone else, but a very strange first edit.Stifle (talk)11:34, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it was just a weird one-time thing. It did seem odd for that new account to show up out of the blue and single out two of your comments though. Sometimes that can indicate someone holding a grudge for some previous interaction, but it could also just be random in that someone simply didn't like what you posted. Oh well, Ob La Di Ob La Da. --Marchjuly (talk)02:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

22:53, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Dear Stifle,The original concern about this article was that it was "An essentially unsourced article about an ordinary person who apparently has an article because he holds a long-extinct (indeed, by now fictitious) title of nobility." I added multiple references to this article from sources such as theNew York Times, theWashington Post, and theDetroit Free Press. The subject of this article clearly meetsWikipedia:Notability. Please reconsider your decision for whih you have provided no explanation.Noel S McFerran (talk)14:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very happy with my closure, which reflected that the discussion was, with the exception of your view, unanimous. "Explanations" or closing statements are not a requirement and are only customary where there is some special reason for not following the apparent majority.Stifle (talk)08:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofDream Games. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.H5r2n (talk)13:43, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You madenational news for deleting Rosemont Seneca Partners.2603:6000:9341:1033:D96F:CDA8:CC82:ECD4 (talk)15:07, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How amusing.Stifle (talk)17:53, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@2603:6000:9341:1033:D96F:CDA8:CC82:ECD4174.247.253.198 (talk)09:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to bother you, can you take another look at this? You closing comment appears to indicate you mean this to have a different outcome. Thank you. HighKing⁺⁺10:39, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yup that's a misclick. Reclosing as delete.Stifle (talk)11:36, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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In case you hadn't seen it,this AfD closure of yours has been taken to DRV; seeWikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2022 May 18. Regards,Extraordinary Writ (talk)06:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofList of future or partially complete Interstates in North Carolina. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.DiscoA340 (talk)14:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review is a venue to handle cases where deletion review has not been properly followed. It is not a venue to merely express adisagreement with or objection to the outcome of a properly-closed deletion discussion.

— Stifle (talk) 08:26, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

— Precedingunsigned comment added byPalosirkka (talk •contribs)12:12, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They don't. The place to express a disagreement with a deletion nomination is at that deletion nomination. If it goes against you, you don't get a second bite at the cherry.Stifle (talk)13:20, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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You have previously blocked User:Commonedits for “disruptive and tendentious editing, incivility, making frivolous deletion nominations, and generally leaving a trail of mess behind you for people to clean up” Their recent appalling personal attacks in edit summaries warrant a further block in my opinion, details here[2], here[3] and here[4] Thank you for taking a look.Theroadislong (talk)16:22, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Already blocked for 1 month by Cullen328.Stifle (talk)08:24, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regardingthis edit: by "they should resile from closing the discussion", did you mean to say something like "refrain"?isaacl (talk)15:47, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, I meant "resile", to recoil/recede or step back from their plan to close. "Refrain" is equivalent in meaning for the purpose of the proposal, though.Stifle (talk)15:53, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation.isaacl (talk)20:29, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Stifle, thanks for knocking out the RPP request reStavros Halkias. There is a discussion on the talk page, but the IP/SPA does not participate in it. If RPP isn't the way to go about resolving this, could you suggest a better set of next steps? Thank you,Brycehughes (talk)17:51, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm happy to full-protect it for a week if you think that would be of use, but semi-protecting is basically saying "IP editor is wrong, go away".Stifle (talk)08:17, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  The problem is that the IP/SPA has found YouTube clips of the guy saying controversial things and then used those as a source to say, "Halkias' use of slurs and reliance on offensive humor (on topics including LGBTQ+ issues, the intellectually disabled, victims of child molestation, and terrorism) have long been a hallmark of the program's material." Fine, I have no skin in this game. But it's clearly OR on a BLP article and so far as I know should be removed pretty quickly. You can see now that many editors have thought the same thing and that the edit history is a right mess (even since I wrote this on your talk page and went to sleep the battle has continued). It has been brought up on the talk page. The IP/SPA has not engaged on the talk page. So given that dispute resolution requires two to tango, I'm not really sure what the process should be here other than what I've done historically, which is saying "IP editor is wrong, go away" via RPP, outside of asking an admin, which I'm doing.Brycehughes (talk)10:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Are we looking at the same page? There's been one (1) edit since you first wrote your message to me. I don't personally think this is a policy breach, but I am not perfect and not always right, so you could file a request atWP:BLPN if you'd like other views.Stifle (talk)10:34, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  You're right, I lazily glanced at the history and saw a revert cycle – I guess it was since I had last bothered to look at it. Sounds like the next step would beWP:BLPN (which I didn't know existed). Thanks for the help.Brycehughes (talk)10:44, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Well someone at BLPN just did a RPP request. Massive shrug.Brycehughes (talk)11:16, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I noticed you recently placed{{uw-3rr}} onSchläger4's talk page, telling them they are edit warring on the pageWar in Afghanistan (2001–2021). I've checked theuser's edits and they seem to be reverts of obvious vandalism, anexemption to the 3rr, meaning that warning template was placed incorrectly. ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me •contribs)09:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Oops, looks like an oversight. Thanks for flagging.Stifle (talk)09:47, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just want to say thank u for protecting the stadium tour page. There is probably a lot of people who want to read about it but can’t because of douchebags like the people who vandalize pages. But thanks to u now people can read it without worrying about random douchebags putting wrong information on it.

Ytzesza (talk)15:32, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I've readWikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary, which clearly distinguishes between stubs that have the potential to become fleshed out articles and dictionary entries not suited for Wikipedia. Most editors in the deletion discussion argue that it's the former, based on reliable sources that significantly cover the topic. I don't see where that guideline encourages the deletion of stubs about notable topics that initially resemble dictionary entries. Could you quote from the policy or guideline that are you relying on to outweigh the majority support of !keep atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Authoritarian enclave? (t ·c)buidhe16:32, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I shareBuidhe's view. How doesWP:NEXIST not apply here? Your close appears to treat notability as being judged on the state of the article. Regards,Goldsztajn (talk)21:32, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• As explained in my talk page header and notice, I consider all my deletion decisions carefully and do not change them based on talk page requests. I am more than happy to restore as a draft if either of you wish to improve the article, but at the moment it breachesWP:NOT, a policy, and arguments that say it doesn't are to be given less weight.Stifle (talk)08:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  @Stifle my apologies, I missed the waiver note. Regards,Goldsztajn (talk)10:15, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofJason Perry (politician). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.Trimfrim20 (talk)16:37, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you missed an important point in the closure of the AfD as keep: allKeep !votes came from editorsWP:CANVASSED from the Polish Wikipedia. On the other hand,all legitimate participants !voted forDelete. I think therefore the consensus was clearly for deletion.Tercer (talk)17:19, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofŁukaszyk–Karmowski metric. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.XOR'easter (talk)19:16, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofAuthoritarian enclave. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.Goldsztajn (talk)00:40, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Stifle I would like to thank you for keeping the article I nominated -- Artemsil. I decided that if it was created by a blocked user (@MER-C blocked them) it should be removed. But later I read carefully the guidelines and didn't find such a reason. I've already asked to withdraw my AfD nominations because of the same reason. What would you suggest to do? How to withdraw those nominations? I feel silly a littlbe bit.Молдовський винний погріб (talk)12:43, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No need to feel silly. You can withdraw by simply writing on the AFD discussion page that you'd like to withdraw the nomination, and someone will come by and tidy it up for you. We do normally delete contributions of banned users (seeWP:BAN) but a ban is different to a block.Stifle (talk)13:17, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion atWikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread isEditor making rapid, nonsense !votes at AfD and refusing to accept new sports SNG. Thank you.StAnselm (talk)18:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey,Stifle. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of theWikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!Chris Troutman (talk)18:42, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day! Hi Stifle! On behalf of theBirthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you madeyour first edit and became a Wikipedian!CAPTAIN RAJU(T)20:17, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Stifle, I have undeletedKing Kamehameha I Day, which you deleted in accordance withWP:CSD#G5. Ithink this was deleted by mistake becauseJasonagastrich movedKamehameha Day to its current title, which shows him as the author of the resulting redirect. As a result, you landed onKing Kamehameha I Day and deleted it. Neither are eligible for speedy deletion, though.✗plicit11:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing my mess.Stifle (talk)12:39, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I also restoredCategory:Grocery stores in Hawaii. CSD G5 doesn't apply to either occupied categories or transcluded templates which can be nominated for deletion (atCFD orTFD) instead (seeWP:BANREVERT). But I wasn't exactly sure if this editor was a sockpuppet, there is no tag on his User page and it's not mentioned in the block notice.Liz^Read!Talk!19:37, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He's not a sockpuppet, in the sense that he isn't trying to hide the fact that he's using other accounts, he's just a banned user who re-registered.Stifle (talk)08:03, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for considering about me. Forgive me for this time. There are some problem in my mobile.I am trying to fix them.Rojer Aurther (talk)08:37, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Don't make me regret giving you a chance. Please try to edit from a computer sometimes; the mobile app and website have a lot of deficiencies.Stifle (talk)09:10, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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That looked like something that for sure should have been relisted: one redirect !vote, one keep stating sigcov, and no other comments. Would you be willing to relist, or should I take this to deletion review?BeanieFan11 (talk)22:20, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There was enough contribution for me to be comfortable closing the debate, and my decision not to relist it was informed by the rubric outlined atWP:RELIST.

If you feel the article should be restored as a full article, it's open to you to undo the redirect if you expand it sufficiently.

If you feel the article should have been deleted rather than redirected, you are welcome to list at DRV if you wish, though I rather doubt that will get anywhere.

Or is it something else?Stifle (talk)09:45, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for merging this entry into "Ad Astra". IMO, The distinction between the two phrases is not enough to justify two separate articles. It should be clearly identified as a distinct variant in the merged article and I am sure you will do it.

It may be too late to comment on the merge itself but what I have to add is more appropriate to the merge process itself. Specifically, I wanted to bring to your attention the link to "Ad Astra per aspera" in theApollo_1 article which should be updated to reflect the merge when it happens.

The plaque for "the crew of Apollo 1" is seen inArmageddon (1998 film).^[1] The "Dedicated to the living memory of the crew of the Apollo 1" plaque is quoted at the end ofWayne Hale'sRequiem for the NASASpace Shuttle program.^[2]

NASA The plaque image already appears in theApollo_1 article but you may want to consider preserving it (with the link back to the crew of Apollo 1) in the new merged page. Many people who are too young to remember the Apollo 1 themselves still associate the phrase with space exploration having been inspired by or exposed to it throughArmageddon (1998 film), notable Engineers like Wayne Hale or newer sci-Fi films likeAd_Astra_(film).Annette Maon (talk)09:49, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is something you would need to take forward on the article talk page. I will not be performing the merger.Stifle (talk)12:58, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is my first time dealing with a merge. Which article talk page should I post my comments on? Is there some way for me to know who is doing the merge before it is finalized? I do not log in very often and I only got notified of the Merge decision after discussion was closed for discussion. At this stage, I am not sure what the appropriate/relevant talk page would be.Annette Maon (talk)15:45, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It would beTalk:Ad astra (phrase). I do not know who will be performing the merge, but they should read that page before doing so.

Unfortunately I'm not in a position to provide you with general one-to-one assistance, but tryWikipedia:Help desk if you need more help.Stifle (talk)16:27, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pro forma notification re:Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Long_stale_DRV although I don't think it's actually required in this case. We're all on the same page. Have a great dayStarMississippi20:08, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
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Quick question, when you declined the speedy deletion did you see the note on the Talk page? Although there are multi editors aside from the cited Museeritrean2514, the other two biggest editors were also blocked as sockpuppets or meatpuppets of Museeritrean2514 (those three alone are responsible for 76% of the article), and some of the other editors even though they weren't blocked as socks were described as "suspicious" in the SPI.AlistairMcMillan (talk)13:41, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't look at talk pages on speedy deletion review normally unless there's a dispute or other flag.

CSD:G5 requires that the article have "no substantial edits by others". 22% of the article being by non-problematic users passes the "substantial" mark for me and as such if you wish for the article to be deleted, you'll need to either delete it under your own authority, use PROD or AFD.Stifle (talk)14:09, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I saw your AFD closing statement inWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Massacres of Azerbaijanis in Armenia in 1917–1921 and I now see your talk page notice suggesting to go to deletion review, and I'm not going to ask you to change the result here. I wanted to ask if it is possible to place the article on deletion review again, given that it was already reopened per deletion review. Support to keep that just amounts to "I see lots of footnotes so it must be well sourced" ignored all of the issues pointed out in the AFD on how most of the citations were either unreliable or said something different from the text in the article. I had hoped for an actual discussion of how much the article content [doesn't] correlate with the sources.Dallavid (talk)20:09, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing stopping you from listing on DRV again, but I expect it would just result in another 3 weeks of arguments and entrenched positions becoming even more so. In my personal opinion a better alternative would be to try to discuss and improve the article for a few months on the talk page, and if unable to resolve notability concerns, list in AFD again later this year.

Good luck.Stifle (talk)10:12, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A bit of a fallacy I noticed some users argue after the AFD was reopened was that the article shouldn't be deleted for having unreliable sources because it would be better to replace them with reliable sources instead. The problem is that reliable sources for this subject don't exist. Some time after opening the AFD, I decided to take a look at the genocide denialist McCarthy source "The Ethnic Cleansing of Ottoman Muslims 1821-1922" out of curiosity to see how immediately obvious it's unreliability should've been. And I discovered that, although Olympian removed the McCarthy citations after him being a genocide denier was pointed out, the entire article was still heavily based on McCarthy's claims, specifically from pages 208 to 221. --Dallavid (talk)21:37, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).

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• Speedy deletion criterionA5 (transwikied articles) has been repealed following anunopposed proposal.

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Arbitration

• The arbitration caseArmenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
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Hi. I am not an expert on lists, but this list is not listy in my humble opinion:List of cases of police brutality by country. Please school me on what a list should look like. Is this a list? Cheers!{{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}15:10, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why you're asking me – or what "listy" is meant to mean. Please discuss your concerns about the list on its talk page.Stifle (talk)09:05, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, sorry. I thought you wrote a WP essay aboutcrufty lists or list cruft or such. I don't know the criteria for lists, so I turned to you as being more knowledgeable than I am. I was seeking your opinion & input. Apologies. Take care. Cheers!{{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}19:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Following arequest for comment,F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
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Arbitration

• Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of theConduct in deletion-related editing case hasbeen rescinded.
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• A case related to theHolocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.

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I don't necessarily disagree with the close, despite me !voting the other way, but it would be useful when it's a 'some people say meets GNG, others say not' situation for the closer to provide more rationale...GiantSnowman21:27, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll take that on board for future closes.Stifle (talk)10:48, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• A link to the user'sSpecial:CentralAuth page will now appear in the subtitle links shown onSpecial:Contributions. This was voted #17 in theCommunity Wishlist Survey 2023.

Arbitration

• TheArmenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
• A case aboutWorld War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.

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Arbitration

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• The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofPatiphat Chalardchaleam. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.Stvbastian (talk)16:15, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirectBird of Paradise(Xiaolin Showdown) has been listed atredirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets theredirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect atWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 2 § Bird of Paradise(Xiaolin Showdown) until a consensus is reached.Gonnym (talk)23:09, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Followingan RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned bycommunity consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
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Arbitration

• The arbitration caseWorld War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

Miscellaneous

• Followinga community referendum, thearbitration policy has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies toJimbo Wales.

Hi, Stifle, how are you? Thanks for your closehere (which was an interesting discussion to read). I wondered, did you intend to actually re-delete the page? Thanks, regards,Justlettersandnumbers (talk)11:16, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for flagging, I omitted to re-delete the page and have now rectified this.Stifle (talk)13:14, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Stifle, I notice you did not restoreHeavenMayFade despite your close [no consensus to endorse]. I would like to bring your attention to closing instructions atWP:DRV, specifically the requirement thatIf a speedy deletion is appealed, the closer should treat a lack of consensus as a direction to overturn the deletion, since it indicates that the deletion was not uncontroversial (which is a requirement of almost all criteria for speedy deletion). I am requesting that this page be restored per the DRV policy, so a user can send it to AFD if so inclined, since there was not consensus to affirm the speedy deletion. Thanks!FrankAnchor14:23, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In the previous paragraph it says "If the administrator finds that there is no consensus in the deletion review, then in most cases this has the same effect as endorsing the decision being appealed". This is what I applied. This appears to be a contradictory instruction to what you have pointed out. However I will abide with your request to list at AFD in all the circumstances, and look to amend the contradictory instructions.Stifle (talk)15:56, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

Administrator changes

Novem Linguae

• Deckiller
• Electionworld
• MBisanz
• Penwhale
• Raul654
• Roadrunner
• Viridae
• Yannismarou

Bureaucrat changes

MBisanz

Guideline and policy news

• Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under theCreative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead ofCC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under theGFDL license.

Technical news

• Discussion is open regarding a proposedglobal policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.

Arbitration

• Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for theScottywong case and 9 July 2023 for theAlisonW case.

It looks to me like this was hard deleted atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Mashhad News (2nd nomination), not soft deleted, so shouldn't have been restored.* Pppery *_{it has begun...}13:36, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for flagging; the nominator didn't link to the second discussion. I have re-opened the DRV.Stifle (talk)13:47, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

Administrator changes

Firefangledfeathers

• AlisonW
• Amberrock
• Closedmouth
• Scottywong

Interface administrator changes

Novem Linguae

Technical news

• The tag filter onSpecial:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. This allows hiding edits made by automated tools. (T334338)
• Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existingMediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or theMediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. (T337431)

Arbitration

• The arbitration cases namedScottywong andAlisonW closed 10 July and 16 July respectively.
• TheSmallCat dispute arbitration case is in the workshop phase.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Administrator changes Pppery Theleekycauldron Dwheeler G.A.S Royalbroil Ssd

CheckUser changes Bradv Oversighter changes Bradv

Guideline and policy news

• Followingan RfC,TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
• A discussion atWP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight fordead names found that[s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news

• Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. (T324166)

Arbitration

• TheSmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating inXfD have been reminded to be careful about forminglocal consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers ofXfD forums were also encouraged tonote when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous

• Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top ofSpecial:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

Hello mr Stifle. You know that Hades isn't actually the god of death neither Persephone or Hermes. Just because they are underworld deities doesn't mean they are also instantly death deities and Hermes is a psychopomp not a death god. Plus neither Apollo, Hypnos and Charon should been in death deities page because neither of them are death gods. Neither Pluto and Proserpina. Every accurate source doesn't say that those deities are death deities.2A02:1388:2181:820E:0:0:EC2:B3DF (talk)15:42, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea why you're telling me this.Stifle (talk)17:08, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because they shouldnt be on the death deity pages. And they should also removed from death gods/goddesses pages. Isn't Wikipedia suppose to say accurate informations???? Because those deities are not death deities2A02:586:1E33:AAFC:C47D:75A3:E14B:37DE (talk)14:07, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. We encourage you tobe bold in updating pages, becausewikis like ours develop faster when everybody edits. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. You can alwayspreview your edits before you publish them or test them out in yoursandbox. If you need additional help, check outour getting started page or ask the friendly folks atthe Teahouse.Stifle (talk)15:08, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ok can you change them please???? Can you please delete all deities in death deities page that are not actual death deities please???2A02:587:1F04:1700:248C:6962:BF0:236D (talk)18:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also please speak with mr NebY because he always deletes all of my edits without seeing if its right or wrong and lot of times he doesn't care. Please I need your help.2A02:587:1F0F:B300:74E2:A653:D25E:D71F (talk)09:54, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, I can't change them for you, as I have no knowledge on the subject. You'll need to do it yourself.Stifle (talk)13:10, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

But mr NebY always deletes my edits without thinking. He also deletes my Talking edits on his page and he doesn't care. We should do something because thats not right and not fair.2A02:1388:2089:C8D6:0:0:19A2:A1DF (talk)09:06, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've been advised you're a banned user, and as such I will not be engaging further with you.Stifle (talk)09:11, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have deleted the page without informing me. What are the reasons of deletion. At least let me know before doing this as kind of respect for my efforts. Concerning the importance, this page is about an Algerian professional football player who plays for USM Alger who won CAF Super Cup recently.Hako33 (talk)22:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The deletion reason, which can be seen inthe deletion log, was that the article didn't give any indication that Mr. Embarek isnotable. Last year,a community discussion determined that playing in a professional team no longer indicates someone is notable enough to have an article; now, the person must be the subject ofmultiple substantial articles inreliable sources in order to be eligible for an article.

As there was no indication of notability, the article was subject tospeedy deletion, which does not require notification/input from the article creator.

I hope that clarifies matters for you.Stifle (talk)16:17, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).

Administrator changes Hey man im josh Alex Bakharev CorbieVreccan Cyphoidbomb Davodd Hog Farm JamesR KnightLago Mark Ironie Nosebagbear (deceased) Rschen7754 Tamzin TonyBallioni

CheckUser changes DatGuy Ferret RickinBaltimore TonyBallioni Worm That Turned Oversighter changes RickinBaltimore TonyBallioni Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open regarding amending thepaid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text:Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

Technical news

• Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both viaSpecial:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)

Arbitration

• Remedy 9 ("MarioProtIV topic ban") of theWikiProject Tropical Cyclones case hasbeen rescinded.

Miscellaneous

• The2023 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of one new CheckUser.
• Self-nominations for theelectoral commission for the2023 Arbitration Committee elections opens on 2 October and closes on 8 October.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

Administrator changes

0xDeadbeef

Tamzin

Dennis Brown

Interface administrator changes

Pppery

• Ragesoss
• TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

• The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators toedit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. Atechnical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
• There isa proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposalis requested.

Arbitration

• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to standin the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
• Xaosflux,RoySmith andCyberpower678 have been appointed to theElectoral Commission for the2023 Arbitration Committee Elections.BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
• Followinga motion, the contentious topic designation ofPrem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
• Followingseveral motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from theEditor conduct in e-cigs articles,Liancourt Rocks,Longevity,Medicine,September 11 conspiracy theories, andShakespeare authorship question cases.
• Followinga motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of theMacedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
• Followinga motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of theThe Troubles case has been amended.
• An arbitration case namedIndustrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

Miscellaneous

• TheArticles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled inthe Gadgets settings.Sign up here to participate!

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

Administrator changes

• Ganesha811
• JPxG

• Ajpolino
• Lourdes
• Mairi
• RockMFR
• Somno
• WilyD

Beeblebrox →Just Step Sideways

CheckUser changes

• Beeblebrox
• Opabinia regalis

Oversight changes

• Beeblebrox
• Opabinia regalis

Guideline and policy news

• Following atalk page discussion, theAdministrators' accountability policy has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to havenotifications (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.

Arbitration

• Followinga motion, theExtended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
• The Arbitration Committee hasannounced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
• Eligible users are invited tovote on candidates for theArbitration Committee until23:59 December 11, 2023 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seenhere.

Category:Wikipedia files moved to Wikimedia Commons which could not be deleted has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with thecategorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments atthe category's entry on thecategories for discussion page. Thank you.HouseBlaster^talk12:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofThe Fifth Quarter (TV series). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.duffbeerforme (talk)12:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

Clovermoss

Dennis Brown

• Julia W
• Marasmusine
• PBS

CheckUser changes

• Aoidh
• HJ Mitchell
• Sdrqaz
• Spicy
• ToBeFree
• Vanamonde93
• Z1720

Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Oversighter changes

• Aoidh
• Firefly
• Sdrqaz
• ToBeFree
• Z1720

Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Arbitration

• Following the2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee:Aoidh,Cabayi,Firefly,HJ Mitchell,Maxim,Sdrqaz,ToBeFree,Z1720.
• Following amotion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that wereenacted in June 2009.
• The arbitration caseIndustrial agriculture has been closed.

Miscellaneous

• TheNew Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in thenew pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review.Sign up here to participate!

The move of that page was contested. Back-end Wikipedia maintenance tools such as your AfD scripts are not a valid reason to reinstate a page move of an article in the main space that has been contesetd by several editors. Please revert it back to its long-term title immediately.  — Amakuru (talk)15:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It can wait the five days until the AFD ends.Stifle (talk)16:52, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why though? You're setting a terrible precedent here, that someone can just move an article with no discussion, nominate it for AFD, and then it's forced to stay where they put it for the whole 7 days or whatever. Putting internal Wikipedia processes before readers is a very bad look IMHO. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk)18:15, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not setting any precedents, I'm just keeping things practical. It's not harming any reader to have the article at that title for 5 more days.Stifle (talk)20:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The page has now been moved back as the AFD is complete.Stifle (talk)09:33, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Stifle.  — Amakuru (talk)15:51, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

Administrator changes

• Red-tailed hawk
• Robertsky

• Ameliorate!
• Ancheta Wis
• Anthony Bradbury (deceased)
• Cobi
• Ev
• Moondyne
• Worm That Turned

Bureaucrat changes

Worm That Turned

CheckUser changes

Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

• Enterprisey
• Izno

Guideline and policy news

• AnRfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

• Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

• Following amotion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
• Community feedback isrequested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section atWP:AE.

Miscellaneous

• Voting in the2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). Theconfirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automaticallycheck your eligibility to vote.
• A vote toratify the charter for theUniversal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) viaSecure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be foundhere.
• Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of theCommunity Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes.Read more
• TheUnreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in February 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with{{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles.Sign up to participate!

I was surprised to see the closing ofWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brittany Spanos. It didn't seem to me that we'd got to consensus, and the article had changed enormously since being sent to AfD (in fact, she had been mentioned and quoted on the BBC since the last AfD edit).Did you feel confident that consensus had been reached here?Dsp13 (talk)09:46, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for linking toWP:REFUND in your close. Am I right that in this case it's open to me to either (a) request atWikipedia:Requests for undeletion for a draftified copy, or (b) request purely proceduralWP:Deletion review of whether or not there was AfD consensus?Dsp13 (talk)10:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see you prefer not to discuss your AfD closures here, so do ignore the question I've struck out! :)Dsp13 (talk)10:25, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you think my closure did not reflect consensus in the AFD, you should file aWP:DRV.

If you wish to improve the article by adding more sources (such as stuff fromSwiftposium) then you should request aWP:REFUND – or I'll just do it for you.Stifle (talk)11:33, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

filing a WP:DRV sounds like more procedural headache for others! Draftifying - which I see@Cl3phact0: suggests below - sounds sufficient and will allow the article to be worked on until ready for resubmission. Thanks very much.Dsp13 (talk)20:54, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done! You both (and indeed anyone) can now work on the article atDraft:Brittany Spanos. Once you've improved it to a degree that it overcomes the issues raised in the deletion discussion, please click the submit for review button I've provided on the article for you. Please note – if the draft article is left for over six months, it'll be assumed you're no longer interested, and it'll be deleted.Stifle (talk)08:53, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I've not yet amassed a great deal of experienceworking on AfDs, though I thought one intended aspect of the process was to encourage the improvement of articles that might be worthwhile if better sourced and more fully developed. I got involved withWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brittany Spanos with that in mind. Seeing the article disappear this morning while I was in the midst of working to improve it was a tad disheartening (in fact, I had just thought about adding a comment suggesting simply moving it to draftspace if no consensus emerged). The WP:DRV/WP:REFUND discussion above is over my head, however, I think that it's worth developing the article further and I'd be happy to lend a hand bringing it up to speed. Cheers,Cl3phact0 (talk)16:32, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I can move it to draftspace if that's what you'd like.Stifle (talk)17:51, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That would suit me fine, though I don't want to barge in to your discussion withDsp13 above. If it's a good interim solution for this situation, then yes, please do that. Thanks,Cl3phact0 (talk)17:58, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done! See my above reply for the instructions on what is next.Stifle (talk)08:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thank you! Could you do the same trick with the Talk page? It'd be good to have the reference suggestions, wikiprojects and whatnot too (if possible). Cheers,Cl3phact0 (talk)09:07, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done too!Stifle (talk)09:09, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Administrator changes Sdkb The Night Watch East718 Isabelle Belato Mzajac Staecker Stan Shebs Sugarfish Tamzin

Bureaucrat changes SilkTork

Guideline and policy news

• Phase I of the 2024RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to therequests for adminship process.
• Followingan RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of theinterface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.

Technical news

• The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous

• The 2024 appointees for theOmbuds commission areだ＊ぜ,AGK,Ameisenigel,Bennylin,Daniuu,Doǵu,Emufarmers,Faendalimas,MdsShakil,Minorax,Nehaoua,Renvoy andRoySmith as members, withVermont serving as steward-observer.
• Following the2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards:Ajraddatz,Albertoleoncio,EPIC,JJMC89,Johannnes89,Melos andYahya.

Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Stifle! On behalf of theBirthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of yoursuccessful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day!The Herald (Benison) (talk)02:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is nowno longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improvingRfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

• Proposal 2, initiated byHouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box atWikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
• Proposals 3 and3b, initiated byBarkeep49 andUsedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
• Proposal 5, initiated bySilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
• Proposals 6c and6d, initiated byBilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
• Proposal 7, initiated byLee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
• Proposal 9b, initiated byReaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
• Proposals 12c,21, and21b, initiated byCity of Silver,Ritchie333, andHouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
• Proposal 13, initiated byNovem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
• Proposal 14, initiated byKusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
• Proposals 16 and16c, initiated byThebiguglyalien andSoni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at theadministrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
• Proposal 16e, initiated byBilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
• Proposal 17, initiated bySchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
• Proposal 18, initiated bytheleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
• Proposal 24, initiated bySportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of theoptional candidate poll.
• Proposal 25, initiated byFemke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
• Proposal 27, initiated byWereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
• Proposal 28, initiated byHouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please seeWikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing!theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

MediaWiki message delivery (talk)10:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofBrooke Monk. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.Jannaultheal (talk)00:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the articleWhere is Kate? is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according toWikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should bedeleted.

The article will be discussed atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where is Kate? (3rd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

IgnatiusofLondon (he/him •☎️)11:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

• Kbdank71
• Kosack
• NrDg
• TLSuda

Guideline and policy news

• AnRfC is open to convert all current and futurecommunity discretionary sanctions to (community designated)contentious topics procedure.

Technical news

• The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

• Anarbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".

Miscellaneous

• Editors are invited tosign up forThe Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improvevital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

Hello Stifle, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion ofDraft:Kollel Beth HaTalmud Yehuda Fishman Institute, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to drafts, and the draft makes a clear claim of significance anyway. You may wish to review theCriteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you.Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits)15:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was draftified after I tagged it.WP:DTTR.Stifle (talk)15:35, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To pre-empt the inevitable requests – this article was deleted and numerous recreations and re-deletions have led to it being listed onWP:DEEPER. There is a consensus against this article existing, and a positive consensus is needed to create that page. If having read all the previous discussions, you believe that it is appropriate this article should exist, you need to file a new DRV.Stifle (talk)09:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SirPriyanka Choudhary andPriyanka Chaudhary are different. So you mean to say we have to file a new DRV but we already did that just a few days ago. Should we repeat?117.230.140.17 (talk)16:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree thatPriyanka Chaudhary (passesWP:NPOL) is different thanPriyanka Choudhary (failsWP:NACTOR). In general, articles that have been salted should be created as drafts and go throughWP:AFC. Please do not start another DRV, since a DRV on this was closed very recently. –Novem Linguae(talk)07:46, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently I typoed the header. I was referring toPriyanka Choudhary. Apologies. The above stands.Stifle (talk)08:23, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Stifle - I think that you made a mistake in advising the unregistered editor to file a new DRV, and I think that I agree withUser:Novem Linguae that there should not have been a new DRV. I think that the purpose ofDEEPER is to act as a blacklist for deletion review requests that are frivolous or vexatious. I see thatUser:OwenX speedy-endorsed the closure, and it appears that they speedy-endorsed it because the DRV was out of process because the title is listed onDEEPER.Robert McClenon (talk)05:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked fora deletion review ofMortal Online 2. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.Owen×☎13:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't my article but thanks for the message. RegardsKeith-264 (talk)13:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I would like to request rollback rights, I have done over 500 edits and have spent lots of time patrolling the recent changes page. I would like rollback rights as I want to use tools like Huggle or AntiVandal, to speed up my process. Thanks.CCWikiMan (talk)09:10, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, thanks for your interest. As you have only been active in the last week with large gaps, I would like you to gain more experience first. When you have done, please useWikipedia:Requests for permissions to request.Stifle (talk)11:40, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! since you have banned me I cant add {{Translated page}} in all of my copyright infringement articles. Thank you for understandingItsMeGabeProductions (talk)12:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I will try to adjust the settings.Stifle (talk)08:39, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Missing rationale has beennominated for merging withTemplate:Di-no non-free use rationale-notice. You are invited to comment on the discussion atthe template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you.TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk)14:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I believe perWikipedia:Deletion review#Speedy closes I believe technically the closure result should beEndorse since the consensus from participants was endorse per the nominations withdrawal.Where the nominator of a DRV wishes to withdraw their nomination, and nobody else has recommended any outcome other than endorse, the nominator may speedily close as "endorse" (or ask someone else to do so on their behalf).Raladic (talk)14:28, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't think there's a functional or effective difference.Stifle (talk)14:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  While I don’t think on this case the nominator will re-raise it, but there is a functional difference in that a recorded result of withdrawn can give the appearance that another new DRV could be reopened right after since this review was “just withdrawn”, versus it having been a closure request due to clear consensus being for endorse, which sends a clearer message to people seeing the note on the talk page in the future, which is why the guidance is written as it is above that a speedy closure with withdrawal with the current consensus in the review having been that should’ve closed as endorse. Otherwise any nomination could just go and withdraw if they found their nomination was against consensus and trying to shortcut it.

  So I think following the guidance and marking it as endorse is the appropriate thing.Raladic (talk)14:57, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I've updated that the decision is equivalent to endorse, but I still don't think there is any difference.Stifle (talk)07:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]