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I got rid of the link to Doso, both on this page and onMetanira. If you follow the link forDoso, it goes to an disambiguation page with essentially no information about the myth.Quae legit (talk)15:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Guosherry (talk)00:13, 11 October 2016 (UTC) "Instead, Demeter chose to teach Triptolemus the art of agriculture and, from him, the rest of Greece learned to plant and reap crops. He flew across the land on a winged chariot while Demeter and Persephone, once restored to her mother, cared for him, and helped him complete his mission of educating the whole of Greece in the art of agriculture.” This needs a citation, perhaps the Homeric Hymn to Demeter (http://www.uh.edu/~cldue/texts/demeter.html) In fact, the Homeric Hymn to Demeter should probably included in the references for the entire article.[reply]

This article should also include more sources in addition to the Kerenyi book which is rather old (1967). Perhaps there is new research or new material found on Triptolemus

Michael

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Chill out for a minute dude I'm adding the citations, how am I supposed to do this when youre typing away 24/7?Akhshartag (talk)07:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Btw if you want more citations, I can give them to you, just don't be so quick to revert these edits and give me a second, especially when most of this stuff is already in foreign language wiki articles anyways.Akhshartag (talk)08:19, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

HiAkhshartag, please seeMOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, which states that infoboxes shouldsummarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article. This means that information appearing in the infobox must both be sourced as well as mentioned in the article. Information should only be added to infoboxesafter it is sourced, mentioned in the article, and if it is important enough to be considered a "key fact" about the article's subject. Also, it is generally asked that section headings on talk pages do not address a specific user (seeWP:TALKHEADPOV). –Michael Aurel (talk)08:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeh its cool, I shortened it btwAkhshartag (talk)08:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read the guideline I linked? –Michael Aurel (talk)08:45, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Whole article ruined by that 1 idiotAkhshartag (talk)10:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: History of Ancient Greece

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between2 April 2024 and14 June 2024. Further details are availableon the course page. Student editor(s):CabbageP (article contribs). Peer reviewers:Old Crooked leg,Anonymouse678.

— Assignment last updated byJohnstoncl (talk)23:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Historical Inaccuracy: Corn in the Great Eleusinian Relief

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"TheGreat Eleusinian Relief. Large Marble relief depicting a scene of young Triptolemus standing between Demeter and Persephone. Demeter is handing Triptolemus an ear of corn or of grain (now lost)."

I noticed that the description of the Great Eleusinian Relief in this article also suggests that the object handed to Triptolemus could be ears of corn. However, this claim is anachronistic, asmaize (corn) is native to the Americas and was unknown in the ancient Mediterranean or anywhere in Eurasia before itsintroduction to Europe in 1493 by Christopher Columbus. This makes it highly unlikely that the object depicted in the relief could be maize.

The same issue appears in the article on the Great Eleusinian Relief,where I have already raised this concern. Since the claim is inaccurate and not supported by historical evidence, I recommend revising or clarifying the description in this article as well.mesropj (talk)12:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-Up: Verification of Sources Regarding Object in the The Great Eleusinian Relief
As noted above, the description of the Great Eleusinian Relief in this article identifies the (now missing) object handed to Triptolemus as “probably ears of corn.” As this claim is anachronistic—maize (corn) being native to the Americas and unknown in the ancient Mediterranean before 1493—I consulted a Greek-speaking colleague to verify one of the cited sources in theGreat Eleusinian Relief article, specifically the more recent 2007 source. They confirmed that the source does not mention corn. Instead, it describes the goddess as holding in her hands “a fruit and a flower” ("να κρατάει στα χέρια της καρπό και άνθος" in Greek).
This description is consistent with historical context and directly contradicts the current claim in the article. I prioritized verifying the 2007 source because it reflects more recent scholarship, but I have not yet reviewed the 1890 source, which might be where the misconception originated. If anyone fluent in Greek can access this older source, I encourage them to confirm its description of the object.
In the meantime, I will proceed with updating this article to align it with the verified information from the 2007 source. Specifically, I will replace the reference to corn with the more accurate description of the object as “a fruit and a flower.” I welcome further input or clarification from other editors.mesropj (talk)21:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Corn" translates tomaize only inAmerican English. InBritish English it meanscereal crop. SeeCorn (disambiguation).Dimadick (talk)07:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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