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Headless corpse. Not mentioned on this page.75.41.109.190 (talk)16:39, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

list at all?

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should there be such a list in wikipedia?

also, shouldn't it include killed people on the other side then...61.7.134.230 (talk)03:06, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Only idiots can rename Institut street to Bandera street! They destroyed the country Ukraine, and led to the oligarchs and CIA agents, such as Poroshenko, Kolomoysky, Turchinov and Yatsenyuk. They do not want Institute street. They are poorly studied in Institute. They want prison or barracks. People in Ukraine remember this shame as Avakov and Parashenko sold homeland to NATO and the CIA— Precedingunsigned comment added by88.204.99.218 (talk)11:04, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your IP from Russia 88.204.99.218. I knew it.31.28.228.66 (talk)06:55, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Invalid ref

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kplive20 reference is invalid. I tried to delete it (what else?) but it got reverted by user Lvivske.— Precedingunsigned comment added byObaymar (talk •contribs)03:00, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Identified victims table: When was a death discovered/reported

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The table should include another column that would show when the death was first reported and attributed to the name. That would help with the timeline as to when a person was found dead. -Mardus (talk)17:48, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Небесна сотня

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I think that "сотня" should be translated as "sotnia" because it is used as unit name.— Precedingunsigned comment added by195.160.235.249 (talk)07:41, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Flag

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TheFlag of Belarus is and not, is the flag of the formerBelarusian People's Republic. Stop changing it!--176.67.84.185 (talk)17:15, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

it' the former flag, and he was a political refugee from belarus. He was buried with that flag and died fighting for it, IMO it's disrespectful to put the flag of the current regime that he fled from as his nationality. We know that he's from Belarus, not that he's a current Belarusian citizen. It's like if someone was an exile from Estonia, would you put the USSR flag? --Львівське(говорити)17:17, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That he was buried with that flag doesn't mean that it is the right flag in this context. And as you say he "died fighting for the flag" is nonsense. It is an Ukrainian conflict and have nothing to do with Belarus, now or then! He was a member of an Ukrainian right wing group. As you see people born in USSR have the USSR flag in many context here on Wikipedia.--176.67.84.185 (talk)17:39, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You'll find that for anyone born in the Baltics, the national flag is used and not the USSR flag because of the dispute. In Zhyz's case, we don't know if he left Belarus after the current flag became official, but we do know that's the flag he identified with. We also dont know if he was a current Belarusian citizen either. --Львівське(говорити)03:34, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is only one Belarusian national flag and this is neither the Soviet one nor the fasisct one.RESPECT the validity most wikipedians have and some other country's flag and restore it now. Otherwise anyone will start imposing his own beliefs about anything-POV FFS.

Actually following your argument one could easily say that some pro-USSR Ukrainians should be labelled with the Soviet flag-something WRONG— Precedingunsigned comment added by2.84.246.217 (talk)02:51, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You would NOT place a Nazi flag next to Ann Frank's name, in the same way as you would NOT place a Red Green flag next to Zhyznevskyi's! What you are suggesting is in absolute lowest of tastes! HAVE RESPECT!!!!Trill ille (talk)01:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated use of the word "Thug"

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Not arguing about accuracy, but perhaps we can arrive at a more NPOV term. Titushki? -CompliantDrone (talk)00:00, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

German Monitor Magazin

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After a long research the Monitor Magazin published a report about the identity of the Maidan snipers. The TV station is ARDhttp://www.ard.de/home/ard/ARD_Startseite/21920/index.html the public television in Germany which is state owned. Not a single major newspaper questioned the reliability of the report and further wrote own articles about it:

Moreover the German Wiki already uses this source.--Wrant (talk)21:55, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the German Wiki uses this source is irrelevant. The problem is that this is half baked rumor mongering. Also it is outdated. Also it seems like there's some misrepresentation of sources going on. I can't verify the video but the text is worded so as to suggest that it was Maidan forces who shot people, whereas what, for example Die Welt source seems to say is that it was a "third party". I.e. Not Maidan. Not Yanukovych. FSB. Although then the article also discounts that theory. Hence the source is being misrepresented. Hence removed.Volunteer Marek (talk)01:42, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes like other "half baked rumors" in almost every article about Ukraine like the involvement of Russian Special forces in Ukraine, strange that I haven't seen you so willingly deleting them? You can rewrite the text if you like. They talked about the "third party" because they couldn't identify them, logical isn't it? Though they said that they were inside the Ukraina hotel which was 100% controlled by the Maidan protestors, so they weren't for sure Janukovych's people or FSB. --Wrant (talk)12:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: BTW, at least in Crimea Russian involvement ("safety of voters") was confirmed by the Russian President himself.Seryo93 (talk)13:07, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Heading text

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For (almost) all activists that were killed there are some notes about how they were killed and some personal info. Shouldn't that be the case also for the policemen that were killed?— Precedingunsigned comment added by109.58.145.239 (talk)02:53, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy of the dead Police officers section removed by me today

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It had the "information":The 18 police-officer who died while on duty during the Euromaidan conflict has so far not been memorized by the Ukrainian government.This "information" is not true; the Ukrainian interior ministry expressed condolences to the familieshere andhere. Alsoa minute of silence in memory of police deaths was observed by the Ukrainian interior ministry. —Yulia Romero • Talk to me!04:22, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They should still be mentioned here.Zezen (talk)05:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cause of death for Police officers?

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The fields for cause of death of the police officers are all empty, shouldn't this be in the article also?— Precedingunsigned comment added by2.68.3.188 (talk)23:13, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There's been no confirmed information on the nature of their deaths. The official sources just provides a tribute list of their names as dying in the line of duty "from 18 February to 2 March 2014" (16 having died in that period), while other sources note that the majority of all of the killings were shooting deaths for civilian and possibly police (as well as some agitprop sites for a Berkut officer not mentioned in reliable sources, which I've now removed). Unless reports can be found fromreliable sources per officer, Wikipedia has a strict policy ofWP:NOR... meaning that we can't make things up. --Iryna Harpy (talk)03:16, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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