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A fact fromHermitage Hunting Lodge appeared on Wikipedia'sMain Page in theDid you know column on 30 March 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:
  • Did you know... thatEremitage Palace(pictured) originally had a hoisting apparatus able to lift the dinner table from the basement to the dining room, allowingChristian VI of Denmark to dine without any waiters present?
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""Palace" does not translate Danishslott. "Parforce hunting" needs a better term --Wetman04:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Palace", "castle" and "manor house" are all correct translations of Danish "slot" and "palace" is the preferred one for royal buildings with no military purpose, which is why I believe it to be correct in this case. It is also consistent with wikipedia's naming of other Danish castles and palaces (seelist of castles and palaces in Denmark). As for "parforce hunting", you are probably right, and I promise I will try and see if I can find something better.Hemmingsen04:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unable to find a better term, I have tried to rewrite the bits mentioning "parforce hunting", so that the article no longer requires to reader to know what it is. Hopefully that solves the problem.Hemmingsen18:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Driven hunt" is the more usual English term, I think. --Wetman20:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Driven hunt" is an excellent term. Thanks.Hemmingsen06:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A familiar historical entertainment, but I couldn't for the life of me come up with the phrase before....--Wetman08:41, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Eremitageslottet, Dyrehaven would be a better title for this article. "Palace" is a mistranslation ofslott in this instance.--Wetman (talk)12:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't feel strongly against moving it toEremitageslottet, but adding Dyrehaven as disambiguation seems pointless to me. I'd be interested to hear why you consider palace a mistranslation, though. (Minor nitpicking: the indefinite form isslot, notslott.) The closest we get to an official English name would be the one used by the Palaces and Properties Agency,[1]. They use Eremitage Hunting Lodge, which is not a translation, but they also refer to it as a palace where the corresponding Danish text[2] usesslot. So it seems I'm not the only one to think that word applies here.Hemmingsen17:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To wake up this old and dead debate, I must say I agree withWetman.Hemmingsen is of course right that 'slot' in Danish may cover everything from a manor house or a villa to a castle or a palace – but it obviously only works the other way: A manor hose or a palace may correctly be referred to as a 'slot' in Danish but the broad coverage of the Danish term does not make a given building something which it is not. This is obviously not a palace in the generic sense of the word. I would strongly suggest a move toEremitage Lodge, Denmark or something like that. As Hemmingsen has mentioned it is referred to as Eremitage Hunting Lodge by the Danish Palaces and Properties Agency but while hunting lodge may cover it as a generic term, it does not seem to work very well in a name to me. But in England there is theRoyal Lodge, also in a parkland setting, which seems somewhat comparative to me. And since there are lots of Eremitages and Hermitages around, some kind of geographical specification seems needed, wheather it is Denmark, Copenhagen or Dyrehaven seems less important to me. I am not sure if there are other Eremitages in Denmark that are likely to get coverage on English Wikipedia.Ramblersen (talk)06:56, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Available in English arePalace, which to me imply some kind of Royal connection orCastle. But some castles arefortresses and some are not. In any case I don't see anything wrong with "Palace" in this case. What's a hermitage actually, by the way ? I don't think the building ought to be merged with the area, but an article about the park(s) should most certainly mention the building (whatever we call it).Boeing720 (talk)20:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Wouldn'tEremitage be better translated asHermitage? This is the spelling of the original French term for the "palace of solitude" that inspired these royal retreats, and is the form commonly used in English to describe them (cf.The Hermitage (Nashville, Tennessee)) -Wormcast (talk)16:02, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seems that this translation isalready in use. Going ahead with change. -Wormcast (talk)03:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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