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Hello all-- I tagged the article with{{copypaste}} after noticing that it appeared to have been copied in great part from theBernard articleon the Catholic Encyclopedia site. I e-mailed the person who maintains the site to see if there are restrictions on the material and am waiting to hear back. -Erictalk15:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article needs a template, because there is still copy/pasted text from Catholic Encyclopedia in there, e.g. "The last years of Bernard's life were saddened by the failure of the Second Crusade he had preached, the entire responsibility for which was thrown upon him" is copied fromhttps://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Catholic_Encyclopedia_(1913)/St._Bernard_of_Clairvaux. Isn't there now a template for this which can be put at the top of an article?Adpete (talk)04:03, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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One of the problems with understanding the Cistercian reform is that the concept of an 'Order' is problematic. Although the Carthusians (who aren't Benedictines) are credited with the invention of the concept, the idea of joining an 'order' and not a 'monastery' is problematic given the Benedictine emphasis on Stability. Cluny theoretically operated as a single monastery, which the Cistercians explicitly rejected.
The specific point at issue is the tendency of this article to refer to the Cistercian order in a way that is not coherent. I've made some changes in detail; I hope they will be acceptable in the light of the above comments.Ender's Shadow Snr (talk)11:53, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The section on "Temptations and intercessions" is taken from a children's book used to prepare kids forFirst Communion. That is not appropriate source material. I will delete the section in a few days; if in the meantime someone can find a better source, please do. --Melchior2006 (talk)14:42, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why is the Clairvaux bit being pushed these days. One cannot even get to his WIKI page by way of googling “Saint Bernard” nor “St Bernard”.2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:CC51:BCEA:6940:F505 (talk)02:11, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Johnbod: A recent edit inserts several lines about a papal audience on November 11, 2024, on the occasion of Bernard's (supposed) canonization. A group of Canons Regular of Great Saint Bernard and theRoman Catholic Diocese of Aosta was present. The only problem is.... it's the wrong Bernard.Saint Bernard of Menthon is not Bernard of Clairvaux. Our Bernard was canonized on January 18, 1174. Is that WP:UNDUE or is that just.... wrong? --Melchior2006 (talk)20:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
