Doctor Spinola - 18 Oct 09:53
I don't remember writing that...
Alan - 18 Oct 09:56
Well said!
A breath of sanity.
Kef Emzy - 18 Oct 11:23
There's also the sheer complexity of all the useless (for desktop users) services and the packaging system with repositories which are updated long after new version come out. In some instances not updated at all. I've used Ubuntu on the Desktop for the last 4 years and now I'm back to Windows 7 because even though I'm a programmer, I still like to play games, use Skype (The linux version suuuucks), Play DVD's, Bluray's and the list goes on...
Denis - 18 Oct 11:38
How interesting -- Robert Strohmeyer over at PC World decided to write pretty much the same whiny nonsense on the same day. Did you guys coordinate or something?
morgan cox - 18 Oct 12:04
Linux desktop is just fine - I prefer I faster OS - Win 7 is slower than Ubuntu at doing everything except some games
Also Google's OS is Linux...
John Lloyd - 18 Oct 12:43
This is a very poor analysis.
It doesn't seem to be capable of differentiating between Open Source software and the Linux Kernel or the distributions based upon the Linux kernel and targeting the user desktop. Some (a few) of which strictly adhere to GNU software guidelines.
It is, in fact, national legislation that forces distributors to exclude certain proprietary software and drivers.
FYI open source software is mainly cross-platform (ie works on Windows, BSD, Linux etc.) or platform agnostic (works with internet technologies). Linux is an open source kernel, frequently shipped with open source software. Fan Boys are ubiquitous in the IT industry, I suspect that you are one.
oiaohm - 18 Oct 12:48
The war is only starting.
Major battles for compatible had to be won. Meego battle is 2011. X11 server disappearing from Linux. Startup system being replaced.
Yes lot of this stuff should have been sooner. But Windows 7 is not without it issues either.
Fundamentalism. Sorry. The Fundamentalism is a requirement to get into particular platforms. Phones, BIOS's and other secure devices.
Beaware Meego is coming to a desktop near you as the fast boot solution. Embed in your motherboard.
The important thing you all want to forget. Is most of the requirements to make a good phone are the same to make a good laptop. So meego and android are both driving improvements in the Linux desktop.
Tell me does Windows 7 run on ARM? Answer no. By Windows 8 MS will have to. Then hang on all Windows 7 applications are x86 only. Opps the second door for Linux.
kikl - 18 Oct 12:55
You shouldn't get worked up about some linux fanboy who insulted you. That is no reason to dismiss linux. Now, what did you complain about?
Manually installing codecs. It used to be you had to install ubuntu-restricted-extras. The new installer lets you choose the codecs from the start. If you want to use DVD, you can buy the proprietary software in the repositories.
So, this problem is solved? Yes!? what else?
proprietary drivers? Well, they are automatically recognized and you are asked, whether you want to install them. Alternatively, click system, administration, additional drivers. This small programm will tell you whether additional proprietary drivers are available. Install by clicking. So you don't have to google the internet in order to get your drivers. Finding, downloading, Installing and upgrading drivers is actually easier than in windows. It's all done for you by linux.
The quality of proprietary drivers? Well, we are mainly talking about graphic cards by Nvidia and ATI. Both companies have been writing and improving their drivers continuously. I have no problems with my graphic cards and their drivers. There are no guarantees, but neither are there in windows or MAC.
If those are your main points of objection, then I submit to you. This has been resolved.
Peter Chan - 18 Oct 13:04
It takes time, not only to get used to the new layout, but also to figure out when something goes wrong, trying to fix it doesn't work like it would in Windows.
Plug and Play refers to more than just peripherals. Most of us just want the damn things to work the way we would like, right now.
David Thomas - 18 Oct 13:05
In my opinion, you hold a very blinkered viewpoint.
I like Windows XP. Of course, you can't really get it any more. It's fast, well-maintained, relatively bug-free, and lightweight.
I bought a couple of laptops that had Windows Vista on. Horrible operating system.
I upgraded them to Windows 7, and the thing is, it's not really much better. It's OK, but not great. What's wrong with Windows XP? Microsoft doesn't make any money out of it now, so they have to upgrade it, and get the upgrade to be perceived as better. It is better in some ways, but not many...
I'm fed up with having to buy new hardware such as printers that haven't had drivers upgraded. The old hardware works fine, so why should I spend more money on new? Why should the manufacturers be forced to develop new drivers for old kit?
I'm also unimpressed with the lack of speed of Windows 7. My main system is a 4GB laptop, running 64-bit Windows 7. It's adequate, but not brilliant by any means.
Also, Windows Vista Home Premium had a great backup feature that would back up to a NAS drive. It's disabled in Windows 7 Home Premium; you have to upgrade to the professional version instead. Of course, they don't tell you that before you buy it.
You might argue that Windows has the highest support for hardware of all the operating systems. I wouldn't dispute that, but have you had trouble installing drivers for some hardware? I bet you have.
I've been dissatisfied with Windows 7 for a while, so I decided to put Ubuntu on my main laptop as a dual-boot over the weekend.
I've run Linuxes in the past, when you had to recompile kernels in order to add drivers. That was in my "hacker" days. These days, I need to get things done, and I haven't got time to play any more.
Do you know what? Running with Ubuntu was as straightforward as running with Windows. I wanted to use the Chrome web browser (Chrome is not an operating system). No problem; just download and double-click on the .deb for it, and re-enter my password to allow it to be installed. Just the same as installing an .msi in Windows would have been.
Gone are the days when you used to have to do make configure; make; make install to get something installed.
And do you know what? Ubuntu was fast.
What's really stopped Linux from taking over the desktop market are two things:
(a) Microsoft is exceptionally good at marketing;
(b) There's too much fragmentation in the Linux space.
If you are faced with installing Windows 7, you only have to choose which level (Premium, Professional, Ultimate etc) and whether it should be 32-bit or 64-bit. If you are faced with installing Linux, there's a bewildering number of decisions to make. Which distribution should you use? There are hundreds. If you want to use Ubuntu, the most popular according to distrowatch, which one do you install? Ubuntu? Kubuntu? Xubuntu? Edubuntu? Ubuntu Studio?
My recommendation is stick with Ubuntu. It supports a lot of the stuff out of the box that you want to do.
And I agree with you that there are so many idiots that want to keep it all GNU open source, and stay incompatible with the "real world." They are elitist and unwittingly helping Microsoft by being so. It's extremely good that there are altruistic people who do develop software for free, but not all of us are blessed with the time and money necessary to do that.
Whilst you do make some good points, I respectfully disagree with your personal view, and I hope you will choose not to be affected by the silly opinions of a certain group of Linux fanboys.
oiaohm - 18 Oct 14:41
There is something big and important you miss.
The computer I currently run latest Linux's on. Its not possible to install Windows 7 on due to lack of drivers for key parts.
Like to call the ones who want Open Source. Lets face some simple facts here. Once something has a open source driver it normally supported until the hardware is basically no longer exists.
Its a bad insult to call them elitist. When building secure systems. Every inch of the system must be audit-able so you must have the source code to everything.
Microsoft has required being taken to court to assist open source even on there own platform at times. The open source being touchy about Microsoft is because they have been many time bitten.
Take fat file system MS releases the specs tells implementers they can go ahead years latter turns up and hits patent claims against device makers using it. Now lot of the Linux core personal work for those device makers. So there is many valid reasons for them to be pissed off.
After the fat item the once bitten twice shy is a major problem. You don't call a person abused by someone hating the person who did it to them elitist or evil do you.
Also be aware most of the coders working on Linux and most other GNU projects are paid full time to do so. They are not giving there time for free.
Too much fragmentation really is a myth. There is a key bug. ld.so itself. Does not support multi versions of libraries installed on a system. Lack of fragmentation in installs is a cause of problem. So each distribution does not contain fragmentation inside it.
Yes pockets of defragmented and lack of support for fragmented in that zone is the issue. People have the problem upside down. Process of attempting to remove fragmentation has screwed Linux up. Instead distributions need to embrace fragmentation and manage fragmentation.
nedm - 18 Oct 15:43
"DVD playback and video streaming from Netflix are now basic for PC users. But the whining of these Open Source fundamentalists make it hopeless for Linux. Streaming technologies such as Flash do not run as well on Linux machines. Linux Video drivers, which are better than they used to be, are not as hot as they are on a Windows machine."
Huh? I've been playing dvd's in linux for years now. I don't use netflix but yet you don't mention Boxee works fine on linux...Flash? piece of cake..where are you getting your information from?
"For a while installing "proprietary drivers" on even Ubuntu required you to "do something". Only in Linux la-la land would you be required to install different "proprietary depositories" to get minimum modern functionality from your PC. The feeling you got from doing it, if you know how, was that somehow you were tainting your PC with something viral and nasty."
?? nice narrative but you aren't putting any real data into your argument here.
"The deeper, and darker, aspects of this fundamentalism came in a letter I got about a year ago from a Linux fanboy who insisted that it was wrong for me to encourage the operating system to be installed on the desktop."
To quote Lewis Black "Friend of a friend isn't even a urban legend" make an argument please.
"Now Windows 7 is back so all those who would have tried Linux instead of Vista are buying Redmond's finest instead."
Huh? People don't need vista so what makes you think they'll "need" 7.
"To be fair it is looking like Linux on a Desktop is going to be a dead issue soon anyway. With computing on a cloud, and mobile applications, it looks like the closest Linux will get to being a pervasive OS is through the Google Chrome variant."
I find it odd you try to dismiss desktop which means you know that kindle uses linux and so is android (cell phones).
So why did Dell say that Linux works better again? Why are there chunks of colleges and universities using it again?
Ubuntu Fan - 18 Oct 16:08
Great article. However, Linux is far from doomed on the desktop. It will never be number one, but it will still make gains, though small ones. Not sure if I'd want it to be number one anyway, as then it wouldn't be Linux anymore - virus free, for the most part.
Richard Skillman - 18 Oct 16:25
All one has to do is look at hate websites like Techrights Org to see these loons scurrying around the nest spreading their own form of paranoia. The person who runs that site has done more to hurt the adoption of desktop Linux than anyone in recent history.
Judge for yourself.
http://techrights.org/?stories
I agree with you that desktop Linux is dead. I still use it but nobody else I personally know does. They are all using Macs or Windows 7. Linux is just too much of a pita for them. One correction though, it's "repositories, not depositories.
When desktop Linux is finally put out of it's misery, the religious fanatics have only themselves to blame.
We all know the type, the person who corrects you when you use Gnu, Linux and the Linux kernel interchangeably.
As if it really matters.
El Carroz - 18 Oct 17:49
Is sad read that, because I been using Linux in the last 3 years and didn't know anything about it and I only know windows or Mac so it was a learning curve but not impossible and the community was very helpful I just Google it and I got a solution without knowing anything. Now is much easier to use and very user friendly and I help other people to install it in their computers and eliminating for complete windows and the feed back I got is wonderful, they have a PC that just works and it is very fast and reliable, not for gaming for browse the internet and use the e-mail client, music, video even Ipod and office programs. Everybody I installed are super happy and went I ask them if they want to go back to windows for some reason they tell me no way. You should see what you can do now with Linux and remember for an application for windows you can have 10 or more replacement in Linux. The idea is to help not to separate.
rich wargo - 18 Oct 18:00
Speaking of which, how long before the hairy, smelly types running Gnu finally develop that microkernel OS they've been trumpeting on their web site for years?
OS fanatics are just typical leftists, all talk, no results. And a fanatical close-minded hatred of anyone not like them.
Texrat - 18 Oct 18:17
This judgment could not be more wrong.
No way the chance is gone. In fact its breakout time is actually upon is now. It is the proprietary OS world that should be fearful.. and they are, as shown for example by Microsoft's escalating FUD. If they thought Linux was dead, they wouldn't put so much effort into killing it.
As for the closeminded spew of people like Rich Wargo here: demonize much?
DrReaper - 18 Oct 22:04
Ubuntu 10.04 is playing Lord of the Rings Online with only a little trouble installing.
I can play DVD's using VLC media player.
My Netflix comes in on my Xbox 360 and I order new DVD's on Ubuntu Linux.
I am also malware, spyware, adware and virus resistant and that is the important thing to me.
Sure if you a serious gamer you still need a PC for Company of Heroes but Ubuntu linux on the desktop is far from over its only getting started.
Don Zeigler - 18 Oct 23:09
This reads a lot like another blog post made on PC World. So which author is guilty of plagiarism? :-D
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/207999/desktop_linux_the_dream_is_dead.html
Do some research next time - 18 Oct 23:32
It is very clear that the Free/Libre Open Source Software community is unfire both officially (see the various EU commissions on standards and even opensource software).
So while this particular article may not be a sponsored article by some large clandestine company gasping in its death-throws, it still ends up being uninsightful and ignorant.
Currently Debian has 32000 packages that are maintained by mostly volunteers. These packages run, they work, that is a giant ecosystem of executable software, you can't claim that the OSS users and developers haven't been doing anything.
Nor can you claim that flash doesn't exist on linux or that I can't use a wide variety of linux software to deal with video.
You don't seem to understand the legal challenges of redistributing software, you don't seem to understand that h264 and DVD playback on ubuntu is disabled by default due to software patent and DMCA issues in the USA.
You don't seem to have a grasp on the history or the attacks against the community. It is unfortunate that the community has to dwell so much in the legal world, but it is necessary in order to ensure that when you download Debian, you can share it too. The point is that your article is fundamentally ignorant and lacking context. It is just as bad as the adhominens you quote.
thomasxstewart - 18 Oct 23:54
BREAKNG: Tele1364. @6Pm: RAY OZZIE QUITS MICROSOFT.
poetry time:fuzzy washe,was bear, washe.
back to story:
Microsoft has just announced that Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie is leaving the company, in the form of an open letter from Steve Ballmer to Microsoft employees. Ray, who succeeded Bill Gates in his currently held position, is famous for his focus on moving Microsoft into the cloud. As recently as June we saw Ray on stage at D8 with Steve Ballmer, and there's no indication given in the open letter as to Ray's reasons for leaving, though Steve does point out that much of Ray's vision for the cloud is already in progress at Microsoft. Ray will stick around for a transition phase of unspecified length, and Ballmer doesn't plan to fill the "unique" role of Chief Software Architect when he's gone
Bare Fotin, Bear Puddin'. Bye Bye.
vondrashek Chief....
oiaohm - 19 Oct 00:12
"We all know the type, the person who corrects you when you use Gnu, Linux and the Linux kernel interchangeably.
As if it really matters."
Funny enough it does matter. Android is a Linux but contains no Gnu. There are many GNU less Linux's out there. Most routers and other embed devices don't contain GNU either instead use BusyBox. BusyBox is not a GNU project.
Yes the new markets for Linux most of them are going GNU less path.
GNU is a set of programs like MS Office is a set of programs. Ok GNU is a larger set.
Linux Kernel is a project.
Linux is tolerated to be a to mean Linux Kernel or Linux Platform. Yes the GNU guys could be way more picky.
Do you not correct people for calling MS Office, Windows or vice verse? It is the same equal error that people do with Linux, Linux Kernel and GNU. Richard Skillman is the normal double standards I get sick of seeing. I correct someone for calling MS products wrong fine. I correct some one for calling open source products wrong I am wrong. Make up your minds please.
Either its not right to correct anyone for this error or it right to correct people for this error software neutral please.
By the way the GPL stands for General Public License. Just because it starts with a G does not mean its linked to GNU in anyway.
For the list of what GNU contains see the following http://directory.fsf.org/GNU/ .
Richard Skillman is the normal bad marketing type in my eyes. Lets confuse people what products are. Ie MS Office is windows so when they buy windows MS Office has to be included even if they will only play games.
Correct truthful language is import when talking about anything. Getting products wrong cannot be tolerated open source or not in my eyes. Yes I will correct you for calling MS Office, Windows just as much as I will correct you for mixing up the Linux terms.
To see where Linux is going you need to get the terms correct.
Anonymous - 19 Oct 07:44
Fucking retards. Linux isn't a ''competitor'' for windows or os x. It's an OS for people who want to do what they want with their PC. The commentator here obviously only knows of Ubuntu bloatware. Had he attempted, say, installing gentoo, he would see that it's NOT an OS for the general populace (read:Idiots) but something for intelligent users
Nick Farrell - 19 Oct 12:54
Hi Don
I dont think either of us ripped off the other.
We make different points. I think the only thing we agree on was that Ubuntu was probably Linux's "last best hope" for the desktop.
Still odd that we ranted on a similar theme around the same period must be a 100th monkey thing.
I have said similar things on other magazines. Anonymous is a more tame version of the point I was making :-)
Brian Page - 19 Oct 16:47
this article makes uses of very weak points (can't even call them arguments).
example: using availability of proprietary code as a point against GNU + Linux. that's just a knock against vendors who choose to exclude a segment of their customers.
imagine going to the 3d movie but they don't give you the glasses.... you have to go get them elsewhere. by this logic - it's your own fault the movie experience was terrible.
Nick Farrell - 19 Oct 17:00
Imagine going to a 3D movie and being told that because the Glasses available in the theatre are not made by someone recognised by the film company who made the flick. You are adviced will have to go without but if you bring your own glasses you get some dickhead in front of you telling you that you don't understand the movie business and pointing out in a loud voice that you should not be allowed to watch the film he is not watching with officially approved glasses. In fact your crime is so bad that you should never be allowed to see a film again.
frank - 19 Oct 19:38
Fucking retards. Linux isn't a ''competitor'' for windows or os x. It's an OS for people who want to do what they want with their PC. The commentator here obviously only knows of Ubuntu bloatware. Had he attempted, say, installing gentoo, he would see that it's NOT an OS for the general populace (read:Idiots) but something for intelligent users
and your the reason he wrote it you condasending zealot moron.
this is why real people not pimple headed girless freaks don't use linux because any help would have to come from so called no it alls like yourself.
do you even know what an operating system does.
it is a user interface to hardware...nothing more
pick a task pick an os pick a piece of software thats it, not oh holy penguin i musteth useth you cause everything i have to pay for is crap(and etas into my weed money from the dole)
get a life plot loss
michael - 19 Oct 21:05
i think that it's really silly to be so absolutistic when writing an article on things like these, because first of all if the cloud is really the future and PCs are going to be second place why on earth dose someone have to pay 70+ $ for a Microsoft OEM license when he can get the same thing for free..
and anyways well, to play on the same level of Mr Farell, when i want to watch a moovie on windows i have to install the codec... so, i don't really see what the difference is, and what is better is that with ubuntu i don't have to go to seedy internet sites that continuously ask you to install "computer optimizers".. or other nonsense... it's just applications -> Ubuntu software center.
Oh, and flash goes perfectly with crome on ubuntu.
Owen - 19 Oct 23:59
Computers are complicated.
Proprietary operating systems put an artificial limit on what you can do with your computer.
Open soruce operating systems do not.
Peter Chan - 20 Oct 08:21
I believe that the Cloud will be an option, probably using OS-lite, but those of us who either won't or can't tolerate disruptions will have both an OS and a physical data backup in our desktops (which will continue to exist, even if they start to resemble a DVD player).
oiaohm - 20 Oct 11:24
Peter Chan. The cloud idea takes off when people start running there own private servers in there own home providing there own Cloud applications and backups of their third party provide cloud options.
At that point Desktops may cease to exist as we know them. Thinking the cloud server could be hiding in anything from you PVR to you TV or like http://www.pogoplug.com or maybe your ADSL router.
At that point you desktop will resemble a TV screen. Yes the type of TV screen exists today. USB ports and Ethernet connection.
There is even a protocal under development to allow video cards to directly stream to Ethernet. So yes TV on desk and maybe a case somewhere in house for 3d processing. So yes you could pause you 3d game move to another room and go on as if nothing happened.
Nothing I have said here if you give me enough money I could not go out and buy and deploy today.
Of course laptops and tablets will remain containing a OS.
This is the problem. Linux already can grant all this. Linux targeting embed is because we see the writing all the wall.
Bruno Pereira - 20 Oct 12:34
This has to be the most non factual, perverse and mind confusing article that I have read about Linux ever.
Most of the things said are seriously distorted and come close to being factual lies.
Graphics drivers on Linux work as good as on Windows and are under constant development from both Nvidia and ATI, also open source drivers are available (no word on these in the article) for both ATI and Nvidia. You can choose what you want to install, proprietary or open-source.
They are as easy to install as in Windows (if not easier in the case of Ubuntu: hell, they are detect, installed and upgraded within 3 clicks from the user).
DVD / media playing works as good as it should and in most cases the necessary codecs are detected and installed automatically by the system with barely no user intervention.
Sure Windows 7 is a great improvement over Vista, on speed, looks and simplicity... Windows users finally are satisfied with something that they payed over and over again all these years. Maybe next version will introduce something that really is innovative and secure to use.
But how can you compare something that costs money to buy, money to secure (you still need a security suite that will make your OS fight all the security flaws, bugs, malicious code that can affect your machine), money to upgrade and update, money to assist, money to use versus something that is costless, open, secure (much more than any version of Windows), user friendly (in most cases, don't like it or find it too difficult? Switch to a simpler distro, there are plenty out there), with plenty of free good support and most important of all: innovative.
The bottom line is innovation. With articles like this you undermine the power that you get by having choice over what fits your needs. Sure sometimes things are not as accepted / functional as one might want but most of them are and those bring innovation for the users in the Linux world but also on the all the rest of the OS market.
God would be praised if Redmond could develop quality software as fast paced as the Linux community does.
I choose to use Linux, I'm not obliged to do so by anything. I could buy a Windows copy anytime I wanted. I choose not to do so and to tell you the truth I would not use it even if I was payed money to do so.
I love Linux, I don't hate Windows or Mac. If you use Windows or Mac, good for you and nothing else. But this complete article is just trash talk, don't talk of carrots when you want o refer to oranges and you confused them only cause they are the same color.
Hans - 20 Oct 12:49
Criticism is a good thing and necessary in order to point out what needs to be adressed in the future. Linux has its problems as well as osx and windows.
I'd say the lack of excellent hardware support is the main issue when it comes to Linux. If a new users first experience with Linux is a black screen during boot, it is likely that they avoid using Linux all together.
If Linux works (out of the box), flash video (streaming from sites like Youtube) will not perform very well compared to windows. This is (or has been) a problem for osx users as well, but will hopefully change when html5 makes an entrance.
Another problem is when you need a win-only-app. Then you often need a separate win partition in case wine isn't sufficient. Newer games are also a relevant issue here.
However, Linux is superior when it comes to customization. In both win7/xp and osx you are basically stuck with the default appearance (and functionality). In Linux, you are able to customize or switch window manager with ease. Replace or remove panels and take advantage of multiple workspaces or text based window managers. If you're stuck on old hardware or can't afford buying a new computer, you can take advantage of Linux and make it perform really well despite this.
I believe that in the end it's a matter of personal choice. Having three different almost identical operating systems would be a disaster for OS developement. Only using a corporate business model is also a bad thing for developing countries where license fees does matter.
Alternative licenses (Creative Commons, Copyleft, GPL etc) has so far been a success on the internet. I believe that Linux is more than just an operating system in this sense.
Zaphod Beeblebrox - 21 Oct 12:56
Yet another post by an astroturfing Microsoft Fanboy.
All you've done is to point out that commercial entities such as video card manufacturers and Adobe which makes Flash, as well as those who provide streaming video services, such as Netflix haven't provided the level of support that they should for Linux.
You're about as slimy as those anti OpenOffice Microsoft propaganda videos, but nowhere near as slick. Keep trying, maybe one day you'll lower yourself to those depths.
Chris - 25 Oct 00:36
Well, what can we expect from somebody who says "Linux will rule supreme on the server" and runs Microsoft-IIS/7.5 for its web site? To trust his words for the truth? If you had actually tried the software you talk about, you would know that "proprietary depositories" is not the term used by the community. Supposing the Linux fanboy you speak about does indeed exist, how is he representative of the free software community which has millions of members?—and that you do not seem to have been personnally immersed in much.
Karl Schmidt - 26 Oct 00:49
Strange ranting -
I have been really enjoying the new KDE4 desktop on Debian - and after fixing a windoze7 computer for a friend the other day, I can say the functionality of kde4 has left M$ in the dust.
Can't say I would be excited about Ubuntu - sort of bleeding edge compared to Debian stable (the brown theme gets depressing anyway IMO)
With great power comes - some complexity - if you want something your grandma can run, go with a mac or windoze - just don't be surprised that you have to do it their way or not at all and feed the tolls with money and frustration on your trip.
The battle is not at all over - M$ is now paying for propaganda to slow the move to OS software..
linux4u2 - 29 Oct 10:37
Lets not forget that it is possible for Microsoft devotees to write articles to discredit/discourage Linux. Microsoft do hand out a lot of "free" product to assist marketing. There were a few freebies with Win7 beta trial. It is easy to look at the Bling on Microsoft to get influenced by the pretty colours.
"the truth will out"
The truth is that there are about 2 million Linux desktop users in China alone. The folks such as you and I don't get counted as only the Microsoft licence is counted when product is sold.
I quite enjoy Kubuntu and Ubuntu. The thing is it just works AND I don't have the wretched anti-virus buzzing on the task-bar whenever I do anything. These antivirus filters sure suck the power out of a PC. But each to his own, but lets keep it all truthful and admit our own bias and allow each to his/her own PC/Mac/Linux ?
gfgfgfgf - 01 Nov 15:02
Oh ho ho ho look at you freetard fundies proving this article right! So rich! So very rich! Lusers (linux users) say the darnedest things!
Here is a freetard responding (read: **spergin out**) to criticism of open source software:
"You do post lies. On a daily basis. Just setting the record straight so others hear the truth instead of your lies. Just trying to be a good citizen and help others so they don't get sucked into your deceit. Again, my noble mission."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "noble mission" more like nocturnal emission you fucking freetarded assburger.
God you're all like a bunch of cultists. You keep forgetting that most of the world aren't asspies like you.
I'll pay for software that works, thank you very much, over your counter-intuitive garbage any day.
Here's another sperg-out:
"Did you know that in Linux you can see the source code of the OS, you can heck the code for any bugs and submit fixes. Microsoft keeps its code hidden, so you won't know if there are any bugs in it. Since Linux and its applications are open source, programmers from anywhere on the globe can find out mistakes!"
Reply by someone who isn't a permavirgin:
"Yeah, tell that to my grandma. She'll help you with your recipes. Apart from coders nobody has time to read those yummy recipes (codes), forget making changes and submitting fixes. Most users are only interested in USING their computer, much like car owners are interested in driving them, not spending a weekend under chassie.
Forget the recipes, GIVE ME THE COOKIES!"
And forget these fucking shitbrained lusers, too.
Couple more posts for freetards to sperg out over:
"Eventually, like communism, the Open Source model collapses as people discover they need to feed their families. Open Source, like communism, doesn't reward creating goods that people want. Sure, you may get just the basic necessaties like food or in this case a basic OS and browser (which cannot run many Windows Applications)."
"The [forum] posts I found then proceed to describe a few 'work-around' approaches, and of course they are all different. And this is the aspect that I truly hate about Open Source. There is no 'definitive' documentation. Everyone can tell you a different story. You look for some thing simple and you get 10 answers out of which probably only 3 really works."
"Why does open-sores fail to reach critical mass anywhere but the server closet?
Easy: because open-sores software is, incontrovertibly, a total usability clusterfuck."
Kind of like your socially retarded brains, no?
SantaHul - 16 Nov 22:53
Well put gfgfgfgf, a little long winded but you're right.
Everytime you can't do something in Linux you get a bunch of nerds telling you to take the time to learn how Linux works. Read this you geeks: I DON'T WANT TO LEARN HOW LINUX WORKS, I HAVE A LIFE TO GET ON WITH
If you can't or won't take the time to learn Linux then you're called stupid or impatient by the community. But fuck these dorks, I don't want to live at my computer, it's not a part of my life, it's just supposed to be something that makes my life easier.
The only versions of Linux popular with the general public are the dumbed down versions like Android. The users aren't stupid, they're just modern and expect to be able to pick up an operating with little reference to the instructions. Until Linux get this in their thick skulls, Linux will be at the back of the pack. Microsoft and Apple get this, and as much as you hate them they're wiping the floor with you poindexters.
"Linux's day is coming! The fight has just begun!"
You've been saying that for 10 years you fucking dweebs.
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