

With the surge in passenger business in the 1920's most railroads werebeing forced to operate extra trains or run their scheduled trains insections simply because the locomotves in use could only haul about 12cars. It was out of this need that the "super powered" locomotives weredeveloped and of them the 4-8-4 was the most numerous and widely used.
The first 4-8-4 was built by the American Locomotive Company, in January,1927, for the Northern Pacific. This locomotive was basically the 4-8-2modified to accomodate a large grate area and a very deep firebox which wasrequired to burn the very low grade of bituminous coal that the NorthernPacicific produced from its own mines. This new wheel arrangement was dubbed"Nothern Pacific", which was quickly shortened to "Northern".
There were 36 North American Railroads that owned and operated a total of1,126 "Northern" type locomotives.
Some railroads, particularly the southern ones, rejected the "Northern"name and used names with a more regional connection. The C&O calledthem "Greenbriers"; the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western used the name"Poconos"; the Lehigh Valley came up with "Wyoming"; the Nashville,Chattanooga & St.Louis named them "Dixies"; the New York Central chose"Niagaras"; the Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac named each of its 27,4-8-4s after southern generals, governors and statesmen; the SouthernPacific used the name "Golden State"; the Western Maryland dubbed them"Potomacs" and in Canada, the CNR named them "Confederations" while theNacionale de Mexico called them "Niagras".
This locomotive carried road number 1111 and the Timken name and becameknown as "four aces" on the many railroads that tested it. In the twoyears it traveled the country it ran up an impressive record in bothpassenger and freight operation.
Designed for fast freight and passenger service, this locomotive wastested in drag freight operation and consistently did well withouthelpers. On one occasion it started a 132 car freight train of 9,864tons.
Timken had "four aces" built so that the boiler pressure could bevaried between 235 and 250 psi and its weight could be shifted betweenthe drivers and trucks thus allowing the demonstrator to have a tractiveeffort of 59,900 lbs at 235 psi and 63,700 lbs at 250 psi. The locomotiveweighed 417,500 lbs, had 73" drivers and 27 x 30 cylinders.
While being tested on the Northern Pacific, number 1111 suffered crownsheet damage. Timken was essentially finished with it and did not wanta damaged locomotive and NP did not want to repair a locomotive it didnot own. In order to resolve this stand-off, NP bought the locomotive,repaired it, numbered it 2626 and used it until 1955.
Information for this introduction to Northernsprovided byRichard Duley.
| Railroad Line | Quantity, Builder | Name |
|---|---|---|
| Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe | 65 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Atlantic Coast Line | 12 Baldwin | 1800s |
| Canadian National | 130 MLW 30 Canadian Locomotive Works | Confederations |
| Canadan Pacific | 2 CPR | Northerns |
| Central of Georgia | 8 Lima | Big Apples |
| Chesapeake & Ohio | 12 Lima | Greenbriers |
| Chicago, Burlington & Quincy | 8 Baldwin 28 CB&Q | Northerns |
| Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul & Pacific | 10 ALCO 41 Baldwin 1 CMStP&P | Northerns |
| Chicago & North Western | 35 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific | 85 ALCO | Northerns |
| Delaware & Hudson | 15 ALCO | Northerns |
| Delaware, Lackawanna & Western | 55 ALCO | Poconos |
| Denver & Rio Grande Western | 19 Baldwin | Westerns |
| Grand Trunk Western | 37 ALCO 6 Lima | Confederations |
| Great Northern | 20 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Lehigh Valley | 21 ALCO 16 Baldwin | Wyomings |
| Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Sainte Marie | 4 Lima | Northerns |
| Missouri Pacific | 15 Baldwin 25 MP | Northerns |
| Nacionales de Mexico | 16 ALCO 16 Baldwin | Niágaras |
| Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis | 25 ALCO | Dixies |
| New York Central | 28 ALCO | Niagaras |
| Norfolk & Western | 14 N&W | Js |
| Northern Pacific | 13 ALCO 36 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Ontario Northland | 5 Canadian Locomotive Works | Northerns |
| Reading | 30 Reading | Northerns |
| Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac | 27 Baldwin | Generals, Governors & Statesmen |
| St. Louis San Francisco | 25 Baldwin | Northerns |
| St. Louis Southwestern | 10 Baldwin 10 SLSW | Northerns |
| Southern Pacific | 10 Baldwin 60 Lima | Golden States |
| Spokane, Portland & Seattle | 3 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Texas & Louisiana Lines | 4 Baldwin | Golden States |
| Toledo, Peoria & Western | 6 ALCO | Northerns |
| Union Pacific | 45 ALCO | Four-Eight-Fours |
| Wabash | 25 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Western Maryland | 12 Baldwin | Potomacs |
| Western Pacific | 6 Lima | Northerns |
| No. | Class | F.M. Whyte | Gauge | Railroad Line | Location | Status | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 819 | L-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SSW | AR Railroad Museum, Pine Bluff, AR | out of service | ![]() ![]() |
| 3759 | 3751 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | Locomotive Park, 315 W Beale St (US 93), Kingman, AZ | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 2921 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | Beard Brook Park, B St., Modesto, CA | display | ![]() |
| 2925 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | CSRM boiler and erecting shops, Sacramento, CA | stored | ![]() Moved to a location about one mile south of the museum next to the river. , ,![]() |
| 3751 | 3751 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | SBRHS, Amtrak/Redondo Junction Shops, Vernon, CA | securely stored with baggage car | |
| 5629 | O-5B | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CB&Q | Colorado Railroad Museum, Golden, CO | display | ![]() |
| 2912 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | Pueblo Union Depot, Pueblo, CO | Wheels Museum | |
| 814 | FEF-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | UP | Rock Island Depot Museum, Main & 16th, Council Bluffs, IA | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 2913 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | Riverview Park, Ft. Madison, IA | contact info | |
| 6323 | U-3-b | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | GTW | Illinois Railway Museum, Union, IL | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 265 | S-3 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CMStP&P | Illinois Railway Museum, Union, IL | display | ![]() |
| 2903 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | Illinois Railway Museum, Union, IL | display | ![]() |
| 3768 | 3765 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | Great Plains Transportation Museum, Wichita, KS | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 1(2101) | T-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | Reading | B&O Railroad Museum, Baltimore, MD | display | ![]() |
| 261 | S-3 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CMStP&P | GN Shops/Minneapolis Junction, Minneapolis, MN | ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
| 5614 | O-5A | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CB&Q | Patee Park, St. Joseph, MO | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 4460 | GS-6 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SP | Museum of Transportation, St. Louis, MO | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 4516 | 4500 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SLSF | State Fairgrounds, Sedalia, MO | display | ![]() |
| 4524 | 4500 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SLSF | Grant Beach Park, Springfield, MO | display | ![]() |
| 801 | 4-8-4 | 15" | ATT&NW | Arborway T.T. & Northwestern Railroad, Steelville, MO | ![]() | ||
| 2584 | S-2 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | GN | Havre depot, Havre, MT | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 2926 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | GSA/BIA siding, between 8th and 12th 3 bl south of I40, Albuquerque, NM | ![]() from Coronado Park, will be moved to a private siding for restoration,Wheels Museum,NMSLRHS | |
| 6325 | U-3-b | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | GTW | Ohio Central Railroad Shops, West Lafayette, OH | stored serviceable | pulled first revenue excursion 09/2001,2001 photo |
| 4500 | 4500 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SLSF | Tulsa Parks & Recreation, Owasso, OK | ![]() ![]() | |
| 700 | E1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SP&S | SP Brooklyn roundhouse, Portland, OR | ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
| 4449 | GS-4 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SP | SP Brooklyn roundhouse, Portland, OR | ![]() ![]() | |
| 3028 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | New Hope & Ivyland Railroad, New Hope, PA | operational by 2006?Volunteer | |
| 614 | J3a | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | C&O | Iron Horse Enterprises, RBM&N headquarters, Port Clinton, PA | was to be auctioned in July, 2000 | |
| 2102 | T-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | Reading | RBM&N headquarters, Port Clinton, PA | stored | ![]() |
| 2124 | T-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | Reading | Steamtown National Historic Site, Scranton, PA | display | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| 576 | J3-57 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NC&StL | Centennial Park, Nashville, TN | display | may be moved to Tennessee Central Railroad Museum, Nashville for restoration, ,NCPS |
| 4501 | 4500 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SLSF | Museum of the American Railroad, Dallas, TX | display | ![]() |
| 833 | FEF-2 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | UP | Utah State Railroad Museum, Ogden, UT | display | |
| 611 | J | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | N&W | Virginia Museum of Transportation, Roanoke, VA | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 2100 | T-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | Reading | Golden Pacific Railroad, Tacoma, WA | from Elgin Co. RY Museum, St. Thomas, ON | |
| 838 | FEF-3 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | UP | UP engine house, Cheyenne, WY | stored | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| 844 | FEF-3 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | UP | UP engine house, Cheyenne, WY | ![]() ![]() | |
| 5633 | O-5A | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CB&Q | Doug. RR Interp Ctr, C&NW Depot, Douglas, WY | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 5631 | O-5A | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CB&Q | Rotary Park, Sheridan, WY | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 6218 | U-2-g | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | Fort Erie Railroad Museum, Fort Erie, ON | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 6167 | U-2-e | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | next to greyhound bus terminal, corner of Macdonall St. and Carden St., Guelph, ON | display | ![]() ![]() |
| 3100 | K1a | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CPR | Canada Science and Technology Museum, Ottawa, ON | display | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| 6200 | U-2-g | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | Canada Science and Technology Museum, Ottawa, ON | stored | ![]() ![]() ,![]() |
| 6400 | U-4-a | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | Canada Science and Technology Museum, Ottawa, ON | display | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| 6213 | U-2-g | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | Roundhouse Park, Toronto, ON | display | ![]() Once displayed at Exhibition Place. Restoration to operational condition being explored,TRHA,![]() |
| 6153 | U-2-c | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | Canadian Railway Museum, Delson, QC | display | ![]() |
| 3101 | K1a | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CPR | IPSCO Inc., Regina, SK | display | ![]() |
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