ShanghaiPanda@thinking_panda

An interesting question: why is there so very few western foods that are steamed?🤔pic.x.com/c0f167uAbS

MASA(航空宇宙・軍事)@masa_0083

この「なぜ西洋の料理には蒸し料理が少ないのだろうか？」という疑問にリプライで・中国と西洋では人口当たりで消費できる燃料に差があり、西洋の方が燃料を豊富に使えた・蒸し料理と焼き料理では焼き料理のほうが大量に燃料をつかう・箸で食べる文化圏では食材を細かく切って調理することが多く、蒸し料理にする事で効果的に熱を利用できるなどなど、めちゃくちゃ合理的に説明してくれてる人がいる…。

MASA(航空宇宙・軍事)@masa_0083

この方のリプライを追って読んで欲しい。エネルギー源の差で調理法に差が出るという説明は説得力ある。x.com/JZ281C/status/…

JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda Europe historically have always been more energy abundant than China on a per capita basis. If you look at early 20th century China, it had much fewer trees than today because the land was deforested a long time ago for firewood.

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JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda Europe historically have always been more energy abundant than China on a per capita basis. If you look at early 20th century China, it had much fewer trees than today because the land was deforested a long time ago for firewood.

JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda Chinese use chopsticks because the food is chopped into small pieces before cooking since ancient times. Pre-cut food can be cooked very fast because it has greater surface area/volume ratio. European style baking/roasting use an insane amount of fuel.

JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda If you look at Chinese cooking techniques for regular people, they are extremely energy efficient in terms of amount of food you can cook per unit of time/energy.

JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda Water vapor carries a lot more energy than dry air. This is why steaming is much faster than baking. You can steam a bun in 8-10 minutes, but baking bread takes at least 30 minutes.

JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda In the time that you can bake a loaf of bread, you can steam 3-4 batches of buns/baozi. The fuel efficiency of steaming is much higher.

JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda If you look at power generation tech even today, until you get to operating temperatures much higher than boiling point of water, steam turbine is always used. Nuclear and coal power plants are basically giant steamers.

JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda Historically, China had way more people than even India. Before the industrial revolution, there were 2x as many people in China as in India. Chinese culture evolved to be extremely energy efficient.pic.x.com/eO3pobaP48

JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda Most people in China can't imagine how much energy the average person in the West use just for heating/cooling the house. Per capita residential consumption of electricity in China is only ~1000 kwh/year. Americans use 9000 kwh/person/year just for residential uses.

JZ@JZ281C

@thinking_panda Scandinavian cultures have bonfire festivals where they just pile up a bunch of wood and burn it as a social event. Can you imagine people wasting fuel like this in China? How many buns can you steam with all this wood?pic.x.com/wRmORByFRd