Wookieepedia:WookieeProject Knights of the Old Republic

WookieeProject: Knights of the Old Republic

Current WookieeProject Focus[]

"Maintenance and Promotion" — currently the project is involved in maintaining current articles and promoting articles toFeatured,Good, andComprehensive status. However, this does not mean that we aren't writing new articles as theKnights of the Old Republic metaseries develops, or improving existing articles. All project participants are encouraged to edit any and all articles that catch their eye.

Article guidelines[]

Because a large percentage of our information comes from the video games,Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic andStar Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, there are certain factors that writers and editors must be aware of. The following guidelines will explain these issues in greater detail. If anyone has any questions or comments, please feel free to start a new thread in our forum.

1. Make sure all articles follow theManual of Style andLayout Guide. For more information, please seepolicies on Wookieepedia.
2. Articles are written with a neutralpoint of view, without addingoriginal research and speculation.
3. Make sure all information followscanon. This has been determined as always being the light side choice in regards to the video games. Any dark side missions or player choices are to be placed in theBehind the scenes section of an article.
4. Please be aware that quite often it will be necessary to add the {{GameLS}}, {{Gamemechanics}}, or {{GameLSmechanics}} templates to sections of an article. Although all LS player choices are canon, not all character interactions have been confirmed. TheKOTOR strategy guide has confirmed the order in which Revan visits the planets in-game. Articles that are affected by the variation in the order should use the {{K1orderHeader}} or {{K1order}} template.
5. Do not add "fate unknown" to articles.
6. All information in articles must be sourced with either reference tags or self-sourcing paragraphs. For more information, please seeWookieepedia:Sourcing. Do not assume that any sourcing already present is correct. Double check all references yourself, or if unable to do so, add the {{Citation}} template.
7. Information from comic books and novels must be cited by individual issue or novel. Please do not cite the entire story arc and/or trade paperback.
8. When citing specific dialog or cut content, it is recommended to use the StrRefs from the game dialog files. Please see theDialog.tlk files section for more details.
9. Please take care in citing specific dates in the Old Republic era. The games are not sources for dates. Please see thisforum topic for more details.

Tasks[]

The primary goal of this WookieeProject is to bring articles related toKnights of the Old Republic toFeatured article,Good article, andComprehensive article status. While it is understood that this will not be possible for every article, we wish for all articles to be complete and reliable sources of information.

Below, you will find links to the Master lists of articles that fall under the KotOR era. The master lists will be updated regularly, as new information is released. If you happen to find an article that is not listed, but you feel that it should be added to our project, please add it to the list or start a new thread in the forum. Once an article from one of these lists has been brought up to standard, please strike it so that other members will be aware of what is already finished.

Master lists[]

• Characters
• Creatures
• Droid models
• Events
• Locations
• Organizations and titles
• Species
• Vehicles and vessels
• Weapons and technology
• Miscellanea
• Out of Universe

Articles that need updating[]

Please don't hesitate to update these articles with the correct information and sources. Some articles under review, listed above, are also likely to need updating.

• Jedi Civil War(FFA,The Essential Atlas &Timeline 8)
• New Generation Academy(Demon)
• 3956 BBY(Galaxy of Intrigue)
• Infinite Empire(Star Wars: The Old Republic)
• Rohlan Dyre(Demon)
• Demagol(Demon, Parts 3 and4)
• Jedi Covenant(Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide)
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (comic series)(FFA,Vindication and onwards)
• Mandalorian Wars(FGA, post-Vector,The Essential Atlas)

Articles we need to get re-GA'ed[]

• Battle of Rakata Prime —details

Articles we need to get re-FA'ed[]

• Atris —details
• Bastila Shan —details
• Darth Nihilus —details(FGA, now too long for GA)
• Kreia —details
• Ebon Hawk —details
• Jarael —details
• Jedi Civil War —details
• Korriban —details(FGA, now too long for GA)
• Mandalore the Ultimate —details
• Mandalorian Wars —details(FGA, now too long for GA)
• Revan —details
• Selkath —details
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (comic series) —details
• Taris —details(FGA, now too long for GA)
• Zayne Carrick —details
• Undercity sewers —details

Requests[]

• List of resources
• Requests

Current nominations[]

CurrentFeatured article nominations[]

CurrentGood article nominations[]

CurrentComprehensive article nominations[]

Current individual projects[]

Please list the name of the project that you plan on working on.

• Jedi Civil War(oncommunity subpage with notes and edits previously from Fiolli)
• Gauntlet of Kressh the Younger(Grand Moff Tranner)
• Yuthura Ban(Jedi Kasra)
• Revanchist(Jedi Kasra)
• Slyssk(Nayayen)
• Trayus Academy(Darth Trayus)
• Nar Shaddaa bounty hunters and other individuals etc(Tm_T)
• Conclave at Katarr(Brandon Rhea)
• The Crucible(Darth Trayus)
• Undercity sewers back to FA(Tm_T)
• Demagol(Darth Trayus)
• Rohlan Dyre(Jedi Kasra)
• Knights of the Old Republic 9: Flashpoint Interlude: Homecoming(Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith, onsub-page, trying to conform to proposedLayout Guide)
• Improving events ofFirst Jedi Purge(Tm_T)
• Revan's mask(Jedi Kasra)
• Refugee and the individuals therein.(Olioster)
• Meetra Surik(Darth Trayus/Jedi Kasra; onsub-page)
• Duel on the Temple of the Ancients(DarthRevan1173)

Completed projects[]

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Currently, this project and/or its participants have taken 67 articles to Featured Article status. For a full list of the project's articles which have achieved Featured status, please visit here →WP:KOTOR's Featured Articles (These articles have all passed review by theInquisitorius. If you see a way they can be updated or improved in line withWookieepedia's policies, please feel free to contribute!)

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Currently, this project and/or its participants have taken 109 articles to Good Article status. For a full list of the project's articles which have achieved Good status, please visit here →WP:KOTOR's Good Articles (These articles have all passed review by theAgriCorps. If you see a way they can be updated or improved in line withWookieepedia's policies, please feel free to contribute!)

70

Currently, this project and/or its participants have taken 70 articles to Comprehensive Article status. For a full list of the project's articles which have achieved Comprehensive status, please visit here →WP:KOTOR's Comprehensive Articles (These articles have all passed review by theEduCorps. If you see a way they can be updated or improved in line withWookieepedia's policies, please feel free to contribute!)

Pre-WP:KotORFeatured andGood articles[]

Below you will find articles related toKotOR that were brought to Featured and Good status before the project was founded. TheComprehensive article process was implemented after the project was founded so does not apply.

Good articles[]

• Dias Athacorr(Taken to GA byEyrezer, status since removed)

Featured articles[]

• Bastila Shan(Taken to FA byDarth Shadow3000, status since removed)
• Ebon Hawk(Taken to FA bySarendipity, status since removed)
• Jedi Civil War(Taken to FA byLord Vader, status since removed)

Discussion area[]

Discord[]

TheDiscord server has a channel for this project:#kotor. Verified users can gain access by visiting the #wookieeprojects channel and using the :revan: emoji.

Meetings[]

Logs for past WP:KOTOR meetings on IRC:

• Meeting 01:2009-01-31
• Meeting 02
• Meeting 03:2010-07-30
• Meeting 04:2010-08-22
• Meeting 05:2010-12-18

Forum[]

Continuity notes and common article issues[]

Chronicles of the Old Republic[]

There have been some questions regarding the canonicity of theChronicles of the Old Republic. In theHolocron continuity database questionsLeland Chee states thatChronicles is consideredC-canon, and that it had been written specifically as a lead in toStar Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, which was released in Winter 2004/2005. What this means for us is that the information found inChronicles is superior only to theKotOR I video game and theKotOR Strategy Guide. However, keep in mind that all of the other media that has been released since then, is superior toChronicles. Any continuity errors that are found inChronicles, or anywhere else for that matter, are to be relegated to Bts. The most recent C-canon source or appearance is always the correct choice.

Order of events in both games[]

Since we don't have a definitive source that states the order that planets are visited in bothKotOR andTSL it, seems that we should follow the order listed in the both theKnights of the Old Republic: Prima's Official Strategy Guide andPrima Official Game Guide. The order in which both game's suggested paths are detailed below:

KotOR:Attack on the Endar Spire ·Rescue of Bastila Shan (withRaid on the Vulkar Base) ·Duel in the Ancient Grove ·Ambush on Tatooine ·Rebellion on Kashyyyk ·Raid on the Sith Embassy ·Duel in Hrakert Station ·Skirmish aboard the Leviathan ·Skirmish on Korriban ·Duel on the Temple of the Ancients ·Battle of Rakata Prime

TSL:Peragus II ·Nar Shaddaa ·Duel on the Ebon Hawk ·Blockade of Onderon ·Khoonda ·Korriban ·Second Battle of Onderon ·Duel in the Korriban Academy (First Jedi Purge) ·Duel in the Telosian Jedi Academy ·Telos IV ·Malachor V

There are two templates, {{K1order}} and {{K2order}}, that can be used to indicate the segment(s) of articles that are depending on this order, which can be detailed with the alternatives in the BTS.

Jedi Exile's Companions[]

The following characters have been confirmed as companions of the Exile:Brianna,G0-T0,HK-47,Kreia,Visas Marr,Mira,Mical,Canderous Ordo,Atton Rand, andT3-M4.

Ancestry and other familial speculation[]

It is likely that character articles about those whose last names are seen in other Star Wars storylines (e.g.,Bastila Shan andDeena Shan) are going to be plagued by speculation saying that "so and so is possibly an ancestor of such and such." These are to be deleted on sight unless sources are provided that explicitly state otherwise. Do what must be done, Show no mercy.

Dialog.tlk files[]

In game engines derived from BioWare's Infinity and Aurora engines (including KOTOR and TSL's Odyssey engine), all strings used in the game are stored in a file named dialog.tlk in the root game directory, uncompressed and unencrypted. These files can be used to search for exact quotes and/or correct them. There is no way to identify thesource of a particular quote based on dialog.tlk alone. You will still need the game for that. If you don't have the games, or have non-English versions, dialog.tlk files from both games can be downloaded fromhere.

Opening[]

Dialog.tlk files are technically binary files, but as they contain unmodified text, they can be opened in any text editor. Windows Notepad has issues with opening large files, so you can use another editor, such asNotepad++, instead. The file begins with binary data, and then the text follows. You can search for the text you need. However, this method may not be very user friendly.

Alternatively, you can useTalkEd (rar, 223 KB), a dialog.tlk editor. It was developed for Windows, but works fine in Wine. Another is theFindRefs program which can be used to search all dialog quickly by including TLK references when using. Not all lines in the dialog.tlk file will show up when specific words are searched but all dialog that is accessible in-game are.

Fanon watch[]

Many KOTOR articles are prone to fanon. It especially concerns Darths (such as Revan, Darth Malak, or Darth Traya), Meetra Surik, and, to a lesser extent, the Jedi Masters. Here are some things you should keep in mindThis is all the NEC has to say about KOTOR. If someone makes a dubious claim and cites the NEC and it's not there, remove it. T3, HK and G0-T0 have NEGD pages. It is there that the Exile is confirmed to be female.

Nothing is said about lightsaber forms in the first game or the comics. It is unknown who used which form. InThe Sith Lords, the only differences between forms are in gameplay mechanics, not aesthetics. It is impossible to distinguish forms any of the characters used based on the visuals; the engine always uses the same animations. The Exile always learns the forms in the order they're canonically numbered:Form I (Shii-Cho),Form II (Makashi),Form III (Soresu),Form IV (Ataru),Form V (Shien), and eitherForm VI (Niman) orForm VII (Juyo)*. Forms I – III are learned as the player levels up, regardless of the class. Forms IV – VII are not available to the "Jedi Master" prestige class, and are taught by the three Jedi Masters always in the same order, regardless of the order the Masters are visited, so any form can be taught by any Master. Canonically, it is not possible to say which class the Exile may have been based on the forms. In the CSWE entry for Kavar, it says "After Vaklu was defeated, Kavar chose to teach the Exile new lightsaber combat techniques before setting out for Dantooine to rebuild the Jedi Order." However, a prestige class has not been identified for the Exile, and it is the prestige class that will determine which forms she used.

(*)The final form learned depends on the player's prestige class: a "Jedi Watchman" learns Niman, while a "Jedi Weapon Master" learns Juyo. The Form VII variant Vaapad does not exist at this point; any references to Vaapad inDarth Bane: Path of Destruction are erroneous, andDrew Karpyshyn has said that readers should pretend it says Juyo.

Double identity or suspected identity theories should be always treated as speculation and constrained to Bts at best, unless explicitly confirmed by John Jackson Miller or another LFL official.

TSL cut content[]

Refer toRedemption,Tm_T, or ask the question on theLucas Forums. Keep in mind that TSL has a lot of obscure content that is sometimes mistakenly believed to be cut, but is actually canon (or ambiguous canon, such as Atton's Easter egg lines).

The Old Republic continuity[]

The continuing development ofStar Wars: The Old Republic is going to introduce new pieces of information in regards to the KotOR era. This may come in the form of ancestral connections, new information about events or individuals, or expanded details. While TOR will not fall under our project, we must stay aware of these changes. Currently, there is very little new information, so it will be listed in this section. When the game is released, no doubt much more information will be introduced. To this end,WP:TOR have set upa forum where WP:KOTOR members can request information fromThe Old Republic media.

• Satele Shan is confirmed as the descendant of one of the main characters ofStar Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. This ancestor has been confirmed to be Bastila Shan. It has been confirmed in-universe that she is also Revan's descendant. It is also confirmed he and Bastila were married, and had akid together.

• It has been confirmed that after the events of the originalKOTOR, Revan went to fight theSith Empire. Any reference to an "unknown threat" or "True Sith" should be changed to reflect this. Note that the term "True Sith" is not actually a canon proper noun while doing so.

Tagging articles[]

To identify KOTOR articles as belonging to this WookieeProject, use the {{WKOTORtalk}} templateon the talk page, which will produce the below result. Please followtalk page policy and avoid creating a talk page simply to add this header.

WookieeProject Knights of the Old Republic is within the scope ofWookieeProjectKnights of the Old Republic, an attempt to build comprehensive and detailed articles with topics originating in theKnights of the Old Republic metaseries. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this notice, or visit theproject page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.

Participants[]

• Jedi Kasra (comlink
• Nayayen^(talk)
• JethLordMaster^(Talk)
• Grunny^(Talk)(WP:LE project lead)
• Grand Moff Tranner^(Comlink)(WP:AMB project director)
• (insofar as comics, KOTORCG, and TOR)
• Eyrezer(As and when it crosses over with other projects)
• Tm_T^(Talk)(Improving and promoting articles related to KOTOR games)
• DarthRage^{Leave a message after the beep}
• Darth Trayus^{(Trayus Academy)}(WP:TOR project head)
• 19:23, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
• (Will try to improve smaller articles whenever possible)
• Master Fredcerique^{Begun the Clone Wars has} †(when it intersects withWP:RWM)
• QuiGonJinn^(Talk)
• OLIOSTER^(talk)
• Mandalore5 (specialising in KotOR1 and TSL)
• Exiled Jedi(Greetings) 18:27, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
• Ruthless Xero^(Comment) 03:56, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
• Darth Needham 23:01, June 9, 2011 (UTC) (super linker at your service)
• DarthRevan1173 (talk) 05:22, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
• Matt Seay (talk) 01:21, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
• —Cal Jedi^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 02:20, December 20, 2012 (UTC)(ForWP:VG crossovers.)
• IFYLOFD^{(Floyd's crib)} 01:59, February 8, 2013 (UTC)(Chief Project Editor)(For ultrawriting.)
• Richterbelmont10^{(come in R2!)} 15:58, August 16, 2013 (UTC)(I will work on tagging and expanding articles, specifically "weapons and technology")
• Darth Samuel(I will do anything I can)Samuel Najdowski (talk) 23:33, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
• Adoras (talk) 13:56, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
• User:Rakhsh (talk) 21:02, April 22, 2014 (UTC)
• Darth Tomotron(talk) 09:50, August 20, 2019 (UTC)
• OOM 224༼༽^{talk}༼༽ 15:28, August 21, 2020 (UTC)
• CadeCalrayn 23:53, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
• YakovChaimTzvi(he/him/his) (talk) 21:18, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
• AwesomeMutation (talk)
• SkiffGuardCaptain (talk) 14:30, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
• SHCosmos(He/Him,Talk) 02:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
• Darklordoftech (talk)