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SCP-1242 / Discussion
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Date:15 Nov 2012 06:59
Number of posts: 40
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FullHazardFullHazard15 Nov 2012 07:07
This is actually pretty good.

I like the use of real-world UN biological containment categorization, and wish that kind of thing was more common. I'd clean up the language a little bit, specifically the first paragraph of the description. The use of 'appears' to describe something just hits me the wrong way, and real scientists would never use 'kilos' to describe a weight. Kilo could just as easily mean kilowatt, kilometer, kiloday, or pretty much anything in the Metric system, and a couple other little things.

What happens if you infect a preteen girl, or anyone else that's smaller than the transformed subject. Surely they wouldn't get massive weight loss tied to voiding. The 'moderate doses of MDMA' sounds bad, because that's not scientific. Describe symptoms, rather than explaining what it is 'like'. The use of numbers like One (1) is awful and nobody should ever do it. Matching DNA with 98% efficacy wouldn't make you look exactly like somebody: me and my brother share 99.9% of our DNA, and we look nothing alike. 98% genetic similarity to a human is a chimpanzee. Why can this thing 'curse in five languages and speaks a little spanish'?

But those are all minor quibbles, good job, upvote.

Unfold byFullHazardFullHazard,15 Nov 2012 07:07
Dr_AdamsDr_Adams15 Nov 2012 07:19

Agreed on all these counts and upvoted.
A couple more things:

Due to subject's proven capacity for self-harm, all requests made by subject must be approved by Site Director.

That sounds like any request WILL be approved. I'd recommend changing it so no one else gets that impression.

Subject is intelligent, and generally cooperative to Foundation personnel.

That should probably be "cooperative with", but I may be wrong.

But overall I like it!
Also, I removed a useless "]" at the end of your addendum and edited the title for you to comply with site standards.

Unfold byDr_AdamsDr_Adams,15 Nov 2012 07:19
Thanks for the feedback!
WinterthornWinterthorn15 Nov 2012 07:27

Glad you like it! I was prepared for plenty of yelling for a first try.

The most honest answer to most of your quibbles is that I have the horrible habit of revising on the fly and forgetting to check my continuity. The bit with multiple languages is a holdover from previous versions that didn't hold up. The rest are my brain jumping back and forth between scientist jargon and English major. I'll give ya' three guesses which one's more "me" and the forst two don't count!

As to inconsistencies in symptoms/effect for varied ages and weights, I just plain forgot.

I will attempt repairs post-haste!

Communism will winCommunism will win15 Nov 2012 07:29

The fuck am I reading. Really.


if your reading this your gay

Unfold byCommunism will winCommunism will win,15 Nov 2012 07:29
WinterthornWinterthorn15 Nov 2012 08:40

If I may ask, do you dislike it for the premise or is there something in the execution that needs repair?

Unfold byWinterthornWinterthorn,15 Nov 2012 08:40
Communism will winCommunism will win15 Nov 2012 14:27

The premise. I mean, it's not weird enough for me torevel in the wtf, but it's too weird for me to feel like I get it, and ultimately I'm just unsatisfied and confused.


if your reading this your gay

Unfold byCommunism will winCommunism will win,15 Nov 2012 14:27
AelannaAelanna15 Nov 2012 07:30

On the one hand, this is decently well written.

On the other hand, it's a little kid that swears in four languages, doesn't age, and apparently carries a virus that… makes copies of himself?

I'm on the fence here, and am withholding a vote until I can figure out how I feel about this.

Edit: Please don't touch the tags unless you know what you're doing.

Last edited on15 Nov 2012 07:32byAelanna Show more
Unfold byAelannaAelanna,15 Nov 2012 07:30
WinterthornWinterthorn15 Nov 2012 08:42

Re: tags. Heard and understood. My apologies on that. Also, updated in an attempt to repair continuity errors. I hope it helps.

Unfold byWinterthornWinterthorn,15 Nov 2012 08:42
Grug16Grug1615 Nov 2012 09:34

I like it, although the containment procedures seem to indicate the SCP is worthy of Keter designation.

I would suggest editing the third paragraph to not mention the ultimate result of the virus (metamorphosis into a doppelganger), as realizing the end result mid-way through the infection log may be more horrifying.

Unfold byGrug16Grug16,15 Nov 2012 09:34
RioghailRioghail15 Nov 2012 09:41

I just can't get behind another SCP that's only interesting because it self-replicates, and that's all I'm getting from this.

Unfold byRioghailRioghail,15 Nov 2012 09:41
DjoricDjoric15 Nov 2012 14:24

I agree with this statement.

Unfold byDjoricDjoric,15 Nov 2012 14:24
Khym ChanurKhym Chanur15 Nov 2012 09:53

Large block of text:

SCP-1242-1 contains the genetic makeup of SCP-1242,

So if analyzed by normal means, the virus appears to contain the entire genome of the boy? That would be an awful lot to squeeze into a virus. Of course, it being anomalous, the virus could be bigger on the inside on the outside (or something like that), but the Foundation would make a note of something like that. It would be equally anomalous if the virus had the expect amount of genetic material, yet still somehow managed to change the genome of the infected into the genome of the boy.

and acts to alter the physical appearance of infected individuals to match that of SCP-1242.

As far as I can tell, it goes much further than just altering theappearance of the body, and actually alters the entire physiology of the infected (right down to the genome).

SCP-1242-1a that are smaller in mass than SCP-1242 begin bloating and swelling.

It has been determined that nutritional supplementation substantially improves chances of survival at this stage for smaller instances,

1) When no nutritional supplements are provided, does the extra mass come from nowhere, or does the extra mass all come from the food they're being fed?

2) If the infected is the same size as the boy, do they need to eat more calories to sustain the transformation process? Or does the transformation process not require any biochemical energy?

Instances of SCP-1242-2 possess intelligence commensurate to that of SCP-1242,

1) Do they gain any of the skills or memories that the boy has?

2) Do they maintain any memory or skills from before the transformation?

SCP-1242-2 appear to have a drive to protect SCP-1242, and in the pursuit of that goal will seek out and infect individuals to propagate more instances of SCP-1242-2.

Do they somehow gain an awareness of the existence of the boy after the transformation, even if they've never seen him or been told about him?

Unfold byKhym ChanurKhym Chanur,15 Nov 2012 09:53
Dr_AdamsDr_Adams15 Nov 2012 10:34

This article would be a lot better if some (not necessarily all) of Khym's questions were answered.

Unfold byDr_AdamsDr_Adams,15 Nov 2012 10:34
Dr SketchDr Sketch15 Nov 2012 10:35

Conditional upvote. This needs to be cleaned up a little and clarified but the idea of some poor schmuck involuntarily transforming everyone around him into loyal clones of himself. It'salmost a power in that, yeah, he could build an army, but that's the opposite of what he wants and it brings him nothing but misery. I am down with that.

Unfold byDr SketchDr Sketch,15 Nov 2012 10:35
Dr_AdamsDr_Adams15 Nov 2012 11:35

If he could control it, it would be a "power". As it is, it sucks pretty hard to be him.

Unfold byDr_AdamsDr_Adams,15 Nov 2012 11:35
FaustoVFaustoV15 Nov 2012 11:48

mmm, it's good, i like it, but…

self termination

that one is bugging me. Suicide sounds better, seriously, unless the foundation decided to upgrade him from SCP to level 2 or more agent/researcher.

Unfold byFaustoVFaustoV,15 Nov 2012 11:48
TapscottTapscott15 Nov 2012 12:45

Hmm, this intrests me! Self-replicating boy, whose replicas are capable, and willing, to form a rudimentary milita to save him? Neato. Upvoted.


Forever tired.

Unfold byTapscottTapscott,15 Nov 2012 12:45
AetherialSkiesAetherialSkies15 Nov 2012 15:09

Isn't there something involving mosquitoes that does something similar to this?

Unfold byAetherialSkiesAetherialSkies,15 Nov 2012 15:09
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