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SCP-431 / Discussion
Started by:Wikidot
Date:30 Mar 2011 00:52
Number of posts: 82
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Salman CorbetteSalman Corbette30 Mar 2011 00:52

Nice mind fuck

Unfold bySalman CorbetteSalman Corbette,30 Mar 2011 00:52
SortsSorts30 Mar 2011 00:56

Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
I wish, I wish he’d go away…

Unfold bySortsSorts,30 Mar 2011 00:56
DexanoteDexanote30 Mar 2011 01:00

Perhaps the "missing" portions could be corrupted, instead.

Unfold byDexanoteDexanote,30 Mar 2011 01:00
DStecksDStecks30 Mar 2011 01:02

I was going to do that, but I'd established that they're physical documents, so, yeah.

Unfold byDStecksDStecks,30 Mar 2011 01:02
existentialsocksexistentialsocks30 Mar 2011 01:05

If the changes revert when SCP-431-1 moves then wouldn't the people who worked with the doctor re-remember him the same time the documents changed back?

Unfold byexistentialsocksexistentialsocks,30 Mar 2011 01:05
DStecksDStecks30 Mar 2011 01:09

Changing memories was a more substantial change?

Unfold byDStecksDStecks,30 Mar 2011 01:09
existentialsocksexistentialsocks30 Mar 2011 01:10

Bah, I skipped over that entirely.

Unfold byexistentialsocksexistentialsocks,30 Mar 2011 01:10
GargusGargus30 Mar 2011 01:10

I'm sorry, but in my eyes, it reminds me too much of Mr. Lonely, and isn't that interesting. My appollogies, but downvoted.

Unfold byGargusGargus,30 Mar 2011 01:10
thedeadlymoosethedeadlymoose30 Mar 2011 01:14

Something about this bugs me - maybe it's the fact that the reality-warper is rather generic, minus the 'reversions' (cool idea, by the way). Maybe a few more details about what the warper or the doctor were like, or what might have happened to them. Maybe some small detail about how the decommissioning was planned to go. It needs a little… something.

That said, I really, REALLY like this concept, so upvoted.

Last edited on30 Mar 2011 01:15bythedeadlymoose Show more
Unfold bythedeadlymoosethedeadlymoose,30 Mar 2011 01:14
DStecksDStecks30 Mar 2011 01:15

It's generic because it's a means to an end. It's not the focus, Gideon is.

Unfold byDStecksDStecks,30 Mar 2011 01:15
thedeadlymoosethedeadlymoose30 Mar 2011 01:21

I see what you mean, but that doesn't excuse it. Basic rule of writing - you don't want to leave generic stuff in, especially generic characters. It makes the world of your article seem less believable, which means readers will tend to care less about the whole thing. So I'd recommend making it less generic - though of course the majority of the article should be focused on Gideon. Currently the reality warper is too obviously a placeholder.

EDIT: The edits work for me.

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Unfold bythedeadlymoosethedeadlymoose,30 Mar 2011 01:21
The RavenThe Raven30 Mar 2011 01:14

Human 055. Meh.

Unfold byThe RavenThe Raven,30 Mar 2011 01:14
tunedtoadeadchanneltunedtoadeadchannel30 Mar 2011 01:53

Reading this, I get the impression that it's nothing more than a vehicle to launch someone's "character" on the wiki. While it's notalways a bad thing to want to establish a character, itis a bad thing when that intent becomes noticeable.

Unfold bytunedtoadeadchanneltunedtoadeadchannel,30 Mar 2011 01:53
Cherry PictCherry Pict30 Mar 2011 01:57

i agree (surprise surprise, right) but i will refrain from voting. i'd like to see where this goes.

Unfold byCherry PictCherry Pict,30 Mar 2011 01:57
DStecksDStecks30 Mar 2011 01:57

What? No! I've already established my character. So yeah, maybe check who wrote it first before you say it's setting up a character.

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Unfold byDStecksDStecks,30 Mar 2011 01:57
tunedtoadeadchanneltunedtoadeadchannel30 Mar 2011 02:34

Doesn't matter who wrote it. The writing style here focuses more on emphasizing the character of gideon than an SCP article should. Sections like "blanketyblanksupercharmingcharismaticetceterablankblanketyblank" don't help to avoid that impression.

Unfold bytunedtoadeadchanneltunedtoadeadchannel,30 Mar 2011 02:34
DStecksDStecks30 Mar 2011 02:37

That wasn't describing Gideon, it was describing 431-1. I was trying to evoke the old decommed guys, to help explain why 431-1 was being decommissioned.

Unfold byDStecksDStecks,30 Mar 2011 02:37
DexanoteDexanote30 Mar 2011 06:46

I don't get that in the slightest, Yoric… Like, at all. It could stand to be a more generic name (I said that in chat), but i don't get that at all.

Unfold byDexanoteDexanote,30 Mar 2011 06:46
DrSevereDrSevere30 Mar 2011 13:32

Agree and agree, Dexanote. This strikes me as a pretty neat idea that needs a bit of work with the execution. Ireally like the concept, but I think it could stand a more generic name and a more fleshed-out understanding of what 431-1 does. I feel like the whole radius thing is a bit of a cop-out, like you got down the basic concept but couldn't figure out why Dr. Gideon is suddenly re-appearing everywhere, so you came up with that to explain it.

Still, overall I liked it, upvoted.

Unfold byDrSevereDrSevere,30 Mar 2011 13:32
SophosBlitzSophosBlitz30 Mar 2011 02:11

Is the name Gideon necessary in the article? You could just censor the name (or give him a generic name. Maybe label him as John Smith or something) and still have the same effect IMO. Unless there's something about this Gideon fellow I don't know about, I think that would address some of the issues a couple of people pointed out.

Unfold bySophosBlitzSophosBlitz,30 Mar 2011 02:11
True
mr dawgzonemr dawgzone23 May 2013 20:34

But when they show his real name it makes him seem more human.

UnfoldTrue bymr dawgzonemr dawgzone,23 May 2013 20:34
ChubertChubert30 Mar 2011 06:56

I honestly do not find this being anymore of a set-up for a character than that dude who can't see anybody and thinks he's all alone or the person who jumps dimensions is. That being said, up-voted.

Unfold byChubertChubert,30 Mar 2011 06:56
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