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SCP-365 / Discussion
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Date:13 Nov 2010 01:20
Number of posts: 19
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MalcolmMacLeanMalcolmMacLean13 Nov 2010 01:26

It's not a bad concept, but I'd like to see more detail on just how impossible it is to remove a person from the pool while 365 is still in the water. Can they not pull themselves out? Can other people not pull them out? Can machines pull them out? What does it do to watercraft? What does do to people who are in the water but not fully submerged? What about bodies of water too shallow to submerge in? What if the pool noodle isn't entirely in the water? Does the pool noodle still enable people holding onto it to float?

In retrospect, I should have asked these questions back when this was still in the sandbox.

Unfold byMalcolmMacLeanMalcolmMacLean,13 Nov 2010 01:26
Enma AiEnma Ai13 Nov 2010 01:35

Can they not pull themselves out?

The article mentions that no matter how much the submerged person swims, they never move, so I'm guessing no, they can't.

Can other people not pull them out?

Well, the article mentions that other people trying to get them out of the water results in a [DATA EXPUNGED].

What does do to people who are in the water but not fully submerged? What about bodies of water too shallow to submerge in? What if the pool noodle isn't entirely in the water?

Most likely, nothing. People are only affected if they are fully submerged (it says so in the third line of the description), which probably implies that the noodle is also submerged.

The article doesn't mention what happens if we just leave a person underwater indefinitely. Will they drown? Or the "super pure water" somehow provides oxygen to them?

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Unfold byEnma AiEnma Ai,13 Nov 2010 01:35
ErkuErku13 Nov 2010 01:37

Heh, but I feel the same way and I was also in chat. Sometimes it's better to have these things in comments though, especially if the SCP can already stand on its own feet (as I think the Noodle of Doom can).

Personally, as I said in IRC, I think the 'victim is immobile' thing is overdone in other SCPs. For my money, I'd rather see the victims be movable, but either:
1) trapped in the infinite sea even if removed from the water, until 365 is taken out: they stay wet and keep moving their legs as if swimming, and eventually drown no matter what steps are taken, or
2) they can be dragged around the pool, but not removed from the water. Attempting to pull them out results in:

  • if a rescuer is trying to, say, grab the hand, the rescuer is instead pulled into the water (this can happen in real life anyway)
  • if a rope or buoy is around the victim, their thrashing makes it too awkward to lift them out
  • more complicated efforts lead to "accidents" that cause the victim to become entangled and injured in the effort, as if the water is pulling them back in.

I think that would make for a more interesting 'can't get out' scenario than just 'can't move the victim by any means', which seems too supernatural and stiff.

Unfold byErkuErku,13 Nov 2010 01:37
CondorTalonCondorTalon13 Nov 2010 01:39

"Can they not pull themselves out? Can other people not pull them out? Can machines pull them out?"

This is what the "all other methods of rescue have failed" line was supposed to explain. People using ropes or cables, would have them snap. People who tried to pull them out by hand would [DATA EXPUNGED].

"What does it do to watercraft?"

I should probably add a line that says only humans are affected.

"What does do to people who are in the water but not fully submerged? What about bodies of water too shallow to submerge in?"

The line "completely submerges in said body of water" is supposed to explain that your entire body has to be under the water for you to be affected.

"What if the pool noodle isn't entirely in the water? Does the pool noodle still enable people holding onto it to float?"

I should also add that the pool noodle has to be fully in the water. And since it's physically the same as an ordinary pool noodle, it should have the same properties. So yes, it helps people float.

Unfold byCondorTalonCondorTalon,13 Nov 2010 01:39
Squeaky NebSqueaky Neb13 Nov 2010 09:02

Is the victim able to use the pool noodle to float in the infinite sea? If so, is the noodle always present in the endless sea or only if the victim is in contact with it?

Unfold bySqueaky NebSqueaky Neb,13 Nov 2010 09:02
LeicontisLeicontis13 Nov 2010 15:54

I'm amazed they haven't sent a D-Class into the pool with a waterproof video camera…

Unfold byLeicontisLeicontis,13 Nov 2010 15:54
AridornAridorn17 Jul 2012 21:08

This. I know a lot of people don't like SCP articles to turn into long things with tons of experiment logs unless it's really really good, but the sheer lack of curiosity and testing that this thing really seems to have been put to seems really… well, lame.

As Sorts notes, the interview is poor and could easily be cut, and either replaced with something better or with a transcript of a video made from someone using a camera.

Better yet, if you want to combine the two and throw some real creep factor in there, what I'd do is fit someone with a full-face helmet that had a microphone, as well as a camera on their suit. Do a realtime version of the interview (punched up a bit) with describing what they're seeing and becoming steadily more horrified, while the camera just continues to show the placid, safe pool all around them.

Unfold byAridornAridorn,17 Jul 2012 21:08
SortsSorts13 Nov 2010 23:19

I thought I was going to hate this, but I actually like it and upvoted it.

But that interview is terrible and doesn't add anything to this for me.

Unfold bySortsSorts,13 Nov 2010 23:19
BounclBouncl03 Apr 2011 19:36

I agree. The interview was badly written.

Unfold byBounclBouncl,03 Apr 2011 19:36
tunedtoadeadchanneltunedtoadeadchannel14 Nov 2010 00:15

So, if anyone who goes under simply swims around in an endless ocean until they drown, how do we, not in the water, know about the endless ocean they saw? Being drowned, I don't see how they were able to describe it to us.

Unfold bytunedtoadeadchanneltunedtoadeadchannel,14 Nov 2010 00:15
ChubertChubert14 Nov 2010 00:17

"The only way to remove a submerged person from the water is to remove SCP-365, negating its effects."

Unfold byChubertChubert,14 Nov 2010 00:17
ratking666ratking66609 Mar 2016 23:42

I like it but I wish the interview wasn't there. It's just your old fashion "boo hoo i feel weird and oh—- oh gawd blarf it was so real man" sherlock.

1+ but plz no more interview.


Hit the cymbal!

Unfold byratking666ratking666,09 Mar 2016 23:42
CondorTalonCondorTalon09 May 2016 20:07

I can't believe I wrote this thing 6 years, ago, damn.

Well, since the general consensus seems to be that the interview adds nothing, I've removed it.

Unfold byCondorTalonCondorTalon,09 May 2016 20:07
DecibellesDecibelles09 May 2016 20:10

Oh hey, I remember this. I like it more without the interview for sure. While I think it's simple and effective enough as-is, I definitely would like to see some sort of expansion in some way.

Unfold byDecibellesDecibelles,09 May 2016 20:10
OldlongfellowOldlongfellow16 Sep 2016 00:45

This needs test logs, because this SCP has a whole lot of potential.

Unfold byOldlongfellowOldlongfellow,16 Sep 2016 00:45
ratking666ratking66624 Oct 2016 17:52

Awesome the interview is gone!

TBH this needs a little more something but I still enjoy it!


Hit the cymbal!

Unfold byratking666ratking666,24 Oct 2016 17:52
Dr Brian BriggsDr Brian Briggs11 Apr 2017 18:47

This looks potentially good, but like some folks have said, test logs on how far 365's effect goes would elevate the status of this item. I'd rather have like them tests to replace the interview than it having no substitute whatsoever.

I nominate involving a raft test, a scuba diving test, and a test involving a crawler crane to rescue the guinea pig (this last one would be a bit expensive and potentially destructive though!).

Unfold byDr Brian BriggsDr Brian Briggs,11 Apr 2017 18:47
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