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From Факел Новороссии 2023 by Pavel Gubarev:

Собственно политической элиты «донбасские» не создали. У нихвышелкриминально-олигархический класс.

What does вышел mean here? криминально-олигархический класс is the subject of the sentence - a criminal/oligarchical class came out with them? This doesn't meaning anything proper, at least in English. Maybe he means: они пришли к власти именно криминально-олигархическим классом, а не политической элитой с своей господствующей идеологией??

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It means the same as «получился» in this context. It's the meaning 8 ofhttps://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/выйти, probably with an overtone of 9 in the sense that it was not intended. "What they produced was a criminal/oligarchical class." More literally, "What came out of their efforts was a criminal/oligarchical class."

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  • Thank you - получился does indeed make sense. I see now.Commented2 days ago
  • @pompey1969 — It's a close, but not precise. Please seemy answer, too.Commentedyesterday
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The more exact meaning of «вышел» in this context is: originated from.

«Вышел» in the sense of «получился» (see thefirst answer) has wider sense than in the quoted text. It refers to any result of any actions.

Compare: «Это случайно вышло.»

In the quoted fragment, in the opinion of the author, one group of people evolved into a social class. It expresses the relation of origin, much narrow meaning of the word «вышел». This opinion is quite questionable, but we don't discuss it here.

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  • isn't it the opposite? meaning of destination, not originCommentedyesterday
  • @NooneAtAll3 — I did not say that the suggested social class is the origin, I just said that «вышел» expresses therelation.It expresses. I'll explain. Arelation is by definition a set of pairs of elements. Source-origin, image-preimage, child-parent, and the like. I tried to give the relation the nameorigin. The word describes both the relation and one of the ends of the relationpair. How to call the relation if B is originated from B? Origin. One word is enough.Commentedyesterday
  • вышел кто-что класс. "it" here is класс. And it's the destination, the result of вышел, no?Commentedyesterday
  • @NooneAtAll3 — I cannot even understand what you are trying to say. I already explained what it is. What is unclear? Please, read carefully.It is not «донбасские».It is not that wanna-be-class. It is the expression of the language. It expresses arelation oforigin. Don't confuse two different meanings of the wordorigin. It can be understood as a relation end, that is, «донбасские», but it also means the relation “origin of”, or, if you will, “evolved from”.Commented21 hours ago
  • A Krukov I don't understand what you're trying to say either. "донбасские" is from entirely different sentence and so doesn't matter. The whole question and discussion is about word "вышел" - which expresses the sentence subject (подлежащее, "класс") being the result, the end stateCommented19 hours ago

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