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Wronger than wrong

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It’s a little wrong to say a tomato is a vegetable, it’s very wrong to say it’s a suspension bridge.
—Stuart Bloom,The Big Bang Theory, episodeThe Hofstadter Isotope

Wronger than wrong is alogical fallacy that occurs when it is asserted that different degrees of "right" or "wrong" are the same — a form ofequivocation of degrees of truth.

The fallacy is afallacy of ambiguity and aninformal fallacy.

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Explanation[edit]

[W]hen people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong.But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together.
—Isaac Asimov[1]

The phrase "wronger than wrong" was coined byIsaac Asimov inThe Relativity of Wrong[1] (expanded and popularised byMichael Shermer, who called it "Asimov's Axiom").[2]Wronger than wrong describes any idea that equates errors that clearly aren't equal. The example originally given is that a belief in aflat earth is wrong, but a belief in a spherical earth is also wrong (as it's actually an oblate spheroid) — however, saying that belief in a spherical or in a flat earth areequally wrong is more wrong than both those errors combined. Blurring concepts into the same category of "wrong" or "improbable", despite their obvious difference in the magnitude of how "wrong" and "improbable" they are, is an example of thecontinuum fallacy (the "fallacy of gray"). Another example to illustrate the difference is that it would be wrong to categorize bats as rodents but also to categorize bats as insects. However, bats as rodents is far less wrong as both are orders of mammals, and their superficial similarity to mice has led to a common misconception that bats and mice are closely related, an understandable mistake by someone who isn't well-read on the subject. However, categorizing bats as bugs is entirely wrong, arthropods andchordates are entirely different phyla and have very little in common with each other except that they're both part of the clade Nephrozoa.

  • The Earth as a sphere: wrong

  • Flat Earth: wronger

  • Thinking the two are equally valid:not even wrong

Importance[edit]

This phrase has important implications regarding the nature ofscientific theories and aptly describes how thescientific method builds up knowledge and understanding — theories may change and adapt, but calling them outrightwrong is not necessarily the right way to go about it. One reviewer of Asimov'sThe Relativity of Wrong asserted that such thinking was a great tool for "arming oneself against the inevitableanti-science attack that one often hears — [that] theories are always preliminary and science really doesn't 'know' anything".[3]

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References[edit]

  1. 1.01.1The Relativity of Wrong by Isaac Asimov (Fall 1989)The Skeptical Inquirer 14:35-44.
  2. Scientific American: Wronger than wrong by Michael Shermer (November 1, 2006)Scientific American
  3. The Relativity of Wrong reviewed by John H. Jenkin (1998; archived from July 6, 2010)
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