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"Good old days" or G.O.D.^[3] is a term often used in when engaging innostalgia, remembering only the positive aspects of times past whilesweeping concomitant negatives under the rug. Such maundering can exemplify the "golden agefallacy".^[4]

It is important to note a distinction between this fallacy and legitimate comparisons: not every positive appraisal of the past is wrongheaded, because the world really has changed. It's just that change has also always been complex and uneven, and no period or people have ever had a monopoly on virtue.

Origin[edit]

Much as one remembers one's own childhood with affection (endless summer days and playing in the winter snow), some people regard their parents' time as idyllic. There are a variety of factors to explain this, mostly relying on the phenomenon ofselective memory and theaffectiveheuristic: a father recounting the halcyon days of his youth not only remembers the different circumstances of that time, but also recalls that his hips didn't ache and all possibilities lay before him. Because it is unpleasant to remember the unpleasant, the warm glow of remembered youth tints the past. (As George Orwell's novelComing Up for Air put it: "Before the [First World] war, and especially before the Boer War, it was summer all the year round".^[5])

Individuals of all political stripes fall prey to the Golden Age Fallacy.Hard green environmentalists andanarcho-primitivists focus on the evils of civilization and the glories of subsistence-level economies, whileconservatives — almost by definition — seek to return to the values of the past, which requires glorifying the past.

Examples[edit]

Bygone eras[edit]

Some of the most popular locations for the good old days reside in distanthistory. The myth of the "noble savage" became particularly popular for many years, arguing that people in undevelopednations (both in the past and present) actually lived happier lives than those in modern developed nations. As is common, this belief thrives in ignorance: once words like "infant mortality", "citrus fruit", and "toilet paper" enter the conversation, attitudes swiftly change.Prehistoric times, even, are touted as an era when primitive humans were better off; witness the so-calledPaleo diet.

AncientGreece, particularly Athens, is another long-lost paradise. After all, it is widely-known that it was the era ofdemocracy andSocrates. Unfortunately, only wealthy native male property owners could vote, most Athenians wereslaves, and Socrates was convicted of impiety and "corruption of the youth", and sentenced to death. Also, the Athenian democracy only lasted for two centuries; U.S. democracy has lasted for roughly twice that long and counting.

While no longer in vogue, it has also been popular to call various parts of themedieval period inEurope the good old days. Rodney Starke's texts, such asThe Victory of Reason: How Christianity Led to Freedom, Capitalism, and Western Success^[6] and Thomas Woods'How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization^[7] promote one particularly stupid flavor of this fallacy: thetheocratic paradise, where an insuperableRoman Catholic Church governed our world at itsapex. While we may have advanced technologically, this line of thought suggests, in all other ways (most especiallyfamily values and themurdering of gays), we have fallen behind. Joining thisChrist-centric view is a yearning for the Age ofChivalry, as a time of high honor and bravery.Mark Twain famously blamed Sir Walter Scott's paeans to knighthood in such works asIvanhoe for theAmerican Civil War:^[8]

Then comes Sir Walter Scott with his enchantments, and by his single might checks this wave of progress, and even turns it back; sets the world in love with dreams and phantoms; with decayed and swinish forms of religion; with decayed and degraded systems of government; with the sillinesses and emptinesses, sham grandeurs, sham gauds, and sham chivalries of a brainless and worthless long-vanished society. He did measureless harm; more real and lasting harm, perhaps, than any other individual that ever wrote. Most of the world has now outlived good parts of these harms, though by no means all of them; but inour South they flourish pretty forcefully still.

Scott's idyllic "Merry England" was, however, even more specific as he subscribed to the "Anglo-Saxon paradise" version ofEnglish history. In this perspective, all ills are traced to the Norman conquest in 1066 and William the Conqueror, before which, apparently, all good English men were apparently free, if not exactly equal (though even this is somewhat fudged). According to thisrosy-colored version of Anglo-Saxon England, all proper freemen had their say in thething, which in this narrative is some kind of proto-Westminster parliament(s).^{[note 1]}

A third variety is the more muddled wish for a simple rural Arcadia of uncertain provenance, as when folk singer Pete Seeger declared that "I want to turn the clock back to when people lived in small villages and took care of each other."^[9]

1918'sThe Decline of the West byOswald Spengler, one of the most famous works in the "declinist" genre poetically, albeit dramatically, called 17^th and 18^th century Europe (i.e.Age of Absolutism) a golden age — "summer" in his morphologically seasonal model of civilization.^[10] Another notable work isArnold J. Toynbee'sA Study of History (released in a 12-volumes between 1934-1961), which was for a moment considered one of the greatest history books of the 20th century, before around year 1960, when historians started to realize that Toynbee's methodology was flawed; in that he preferredmyths, allegories, andreligion (namely in usingGoddidit to gloss over whatever he could not answer) over factual data.^[11][12][13]

America[edit]

A wedding inHappy Days: perhaps not the way it really was

Many periods of American history have been host to this fallacy. Therevolutionary era of the 18^th century, a time of gentleman farmers and tricorner hats, has long been venerated as the good old days. For a time, the succeeding century was also host to wistful yearning, despite its apt nickname, the "Gilded Age."

R.J. Rushdoony,Gary North,Larry Pratt,David Barton, and otherDominionists promote the New EnglandPuritantheocracy of the 17^th and early-18^th centuries as one such period.

Thegang warfare of urban areas in the 1980s and 1990s was unparalleled… unless you knew something about history.New York City gangs existed in the 19^th century with the influx ofIrish immigrants, and from the turn of the century with theChineseOn Leong Tong or theHip Sing Association under the leadership ofSai Wing Mock, and from the 1930s onwards with theMafia. But, obviously, they weren'tblack people, so that iscompletely different.Obviously.

Of late, it has become peculiarly easy to divine an American's political persuasion based on whether they idolize the1950s or1960s. Do you fondly recallWoodstock andKent State, orHappy Days andmisogyny? In the good old days, they tended tohang black people up from trees,not let women vote, and criminalize gay people. They may have been good times if you were astraight white dude, though.

Also, while economically the US peaked from the end of World War II to the early '70s, this was because everywhere but the US had their infrastructure bombed to smithereens, not because of conservative culture ruined by teh leebrals. And the economy hasn’t been destroyed since then, just shifted to the service sector (which is why free higher education has suddenly become such a politicized issue, as agriculture and manufacturing doesn’t require much education, while service work does). Despite this, many say they could somehow reverse the economy back to the “golden age”, even though this has just left us completely unprepared for the new service economy.

Victorian Britain[edit]

Girl hauling a coal tub, mid-19^th century Britain^[15]

The economy was booming, the workers didn't whine about 16-hour, 6-day work weeks (and neitherdid their children), and the darkies,Jews, and common folk (like poor people, how dare they not be born into nobility!) knew their place. Also, the "Empire"^{[note 2]} provided a handy source of raw materials from which to create even more wealth. Good times, indeed.

East Germany[edit]

The East German Trabant: uncomfortable, slow, noisy, and dirty

There is a phenomenon calledOstalgie (a portmanteau of the German words for "east" and "nostalgia") current inGermany. Due partially to the manner in which the reunification of Germany was executed, which resulted in economic depression and large-scale unemployment in the former East Germany, adherents toOstalgie remember the period ofcommunism there fondly, thus demonstrating why it is necessary for the German government to maintain aFederal Commissioner for the Stasi Archives keeping the memory of the East Germanpolice state alive to counterbalance this.

In many ways,Ostalgie is the result of shameless marketing. Many products available in East Germany that are meant to commemorate the German Democratic Republic were old brands that died during reunification and that were resurrected by West Germans to make it easier to brand and market their products to the region. Some companies even attempted to commercialize the heraldry of the German Democratic Republic.^[16]Ironically, part of their success lies in the fact that West Germans improved the quality of these products. Back in the days of the GDR, many of these brands were notable for being of inferior quality to their Western equivalents and were often avoided for that reason.

Anthropologist Dominic Boyer argued thatOstalgie itself has less to do with defending the former East German regime, and more to do with the existing East-West cultural divide. Many former East Germans felt that after the reunification, the views of their West German compatriots dominate society at the expense of the East, which had their own distinct culture and outlook that they felt is being slowly erased.^[17]

Indonesia[edit]

Just like the Philippines, there are some attempts by supporters (or sympathizers) of deposed dictatorSuharto to re-polish his tainted reputation. Examples are food self-sufficiency and low-crime rate. And as the case with the Philippines, many New Order sympathizers don't realize that Suharto had its ownmysterious killing program just for saying bad stuff about him, his regime, Golkar, and the Armed Force, not to mention committing one of theworst mass murders in history, instituted ethnic repression of Chinese Indonesians, East Timorese, and West Papuans, and siphoning of $15 billion+ for his own family.

Malaysia[edit]

Some in Malaysia support the monarchy and claim that the period when Tunku Abdul Rahman (the first prime minister of Malaysia) as the golden age of the country as it gained independence from the British and became its own sovereign nation. During this time, Malaysia saw great economic growth and cultural influence.^[18] However, many saw the time as a period of racial and ethnic purity for Malaysians,^[19] and many sweep the massacres from the government during this time under the rug and pretend they never happened.

China[edit]

Japan[edit]

Some in Japan yearn for the good old days of theEdo period, when noble samurai served their lords, the peasants knew their place, and a warrior culture was the norm. However, people who seriously argue for bringing back the Tokugawa shogunate are typically laughed out of the room in modern day Japan. More worrying are the Japanese nationalists who want the Japanese Empire back, ignoring its political repression and secret police, but at least they can invade neighboring countries and commitwar crimes without that pesky constitution forbidding them. Such nationalists also overlap with denialists of Japanesewarcrimes.

Philippines[edit]

Since the early 2000s, there has been a concerted attempt by supporters of deposed dictator Ferdinand Marcos to wipe the shit off his name and polish it to brand-new. Examples cited of the good old days under Marcos are the low peso-to-dollar exchange rate, the fact that the Philippines had Asia's second-largest economy next toJapan based ongross domestic product, and low crime rates. Needless to say, most people who post about the good old days ofmartial law were either born in the 1980s or later, and thus didn't experience the good old days when the police could knock on one's door just for saying bad stuff about Imelda Marcos, the Little People's Star and Slave, who is also well known forcollecting over 3000 pairs of shoes. Some of them also viewRodrigo Duterte as the second coming of Marcos, withdeath squads and everything.

The "good old days" mentality also accounted for the sudden rise to prominence of Marcos's son Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos Jr., whose supporters have mindlessly campaigned for his presidency in 2022, despite vehement opposition and anxiety from groups such as (foreign) investors and the very same religious groups who campaigned for Marcos Sr.'s resignation back in 1986. Disturbingly enough, Bongbong won by a landslide over his closest rival,Leni Robredo, and that is in spite of him snubbing interviews and debates, that glaring issue with him not paying his back taxes and not even feeling remorse over his family's atrocities, and allegations by former senatorNikki Coseteng who accused the younger Marcos of being a cocaine addict during his disco days; Duterte alsoalluded to Marcos's supposed drug addiction in an earlier interview. It's either that Filipinos have had their brains rotted by social media so much that they couldn't tell what's real frombullshit, that Marcos played into the desperation of those affected by the pandemic by being charitable^{[note 3]} and promising them instant prosperity, or maybe Filipinos are just so "good" at their judgement that they'd vote for a dancing pig over a stern yet honest leader. That being said, the polls were marred by widespread suspicion of systemic fraud and voter brainwashing from supporters of Robredo and other watchdog groups who saw the whole campaign as rigged in Marcos's favour, at the same time conditioning the impressionable masses throughfake news andhistorical revisionism, playing on the disillusionment people had with the Aquinos after the first EDSA revolution.

Romania[edit]

Former Romanian dictatorNicolae Ceaușescu regularly tops popularity polls in Romania,^[20] and this is a man who started an extremepersonality cult, gave his uneducated wife a PhD, and tried to stimulate population growth by banningabortion and sending the secret police to give women pregnancy tests. On the other hand, modern Romania saw little benefit from EU membership, and is still one of the EU's poorest countries, with 25% of their population living under $5.50 USD a day and 75% of the population not attaining college education, so you know your government's policies have fucked up bad when people begin longing for an insane despot to return.

Like modern Stalin apologists in Russia, many Ceaușescu supporters are right-wing Romanian nationalists who venerate the dictator for the fact that he heavily promoted Romanian nationalism and relatively independent policies from the Eastern Bloc, placing him alongside the likes of King Carol II andConducator Ion Antonescu, two more of Romania's former authoritarian leaders with their ownpersonality cults.

Soviet Union under Stalin[edit]

A number of Russians today rememberJoseph Stalin'sSoviet Union fondly as a period of national glory due to his defeat ofNazi Germany, conveniently forgetting that Stalin was adictator and a serious slimeball who deliberately murdered some millions of Soviet citizens and presided overfamines that killed millions more. It's also perhaps easier to shrug off the summary arrest, imprisonment, show trials,torture, and execution of political dissidents, people belonging to the wrong ethnic group, and accused "wreckers" when your apartment is no longer subject to the knock on the door at three in the morning. And that's not including the super funGulag!

Stalinist nostalgia is a reaction to the uncertainty caused by the dissolution of the Soviet Union, where many social benefits were withdrawn, average life expectancy and GDP decreased, while oligarchic businessmen or "businessmen" reigned. The canonical anecdote is illustrative: "The intermediate stage between socialism and capitalism is alcoholism." This draws people towards the fantasy of "good old days" when there was "order". Many of them are also supporters ofVladimir Putin, who is well aware of such Neo-Stalinists and likely utilizes them for his own authoritarian nationalist agendas.

Interestingly, many modern Stalin apologists in Russia are not tankies but right-wing Russian nationalists who venerate Stalin alongside the Orthodox Church and the Tsars, but viewVladimir Lenin as a "Jew who destroyed Russia", even though Stalin himself was Georgian, while continuing many of Lenin's policies or extending them (including the anti-religious ones).

Yugoslavia[edit]

Many citizens of former Yugoslav Republics, especiallySerbia, miss the days ofJosip Broz Tito. Unlike other examples here, this is more understandable, since Tito's Yugoslavia experienced relative political stability and was far less repressive than the rest of the Eastern Bloc, with Yugoslavs being allowed to travel overseas and enjoy Western consumer goods and films. That ended when in 1991Yugoslavia broke apart and resulted in a decade-long war with plenty ofethnic cleansing, concentration camps, and war crimes, whose impact can be felt in the successor states to this day.

A tale[edit]

Terry Pratchett'sReaper Man (1991):

The sun was near the horizon. The shortest-lived creatures on the Disc were mayflies, which barely make it through twenty-four hours.^{[note 4]} Two of the oldest zigzagged aimlessly over the waters of a trout stream, discussing history with some younger members of the evening hatching.

"You don't get the kind of sun now that you used to get," one of them said.

"You're right there. We had proper sun in the good old hours. It were all yellow. None of this red stuff.

"It were higher too."

"It was. You're right."

"And nymphs and larvae showed you a bit of respect."

"They did. They did," said the other mayfly vehemently.

"I reckon, if mayflies these hours behaved a bit better, we’d still be having proper sun."

The younger mayflies listened politely.

"I remember," said one of the oldest mayflies, "when all this was fields, as far as you could see."

The younger mayflies looked around.

"It’s still fields," one of them ventured, after a polite interval.

"I remember when it was better fields," said the old mayfly sharply.

"Yeah," said his colleague. "And there was a cow."

"That’s right! You’re right! I remember that cow! Stood right over there for, oh, forty, fifty minutes. It was brown, as I recall."

"You don’t get cows like that these hours." …

"What were we doing before we were talking about the sun?"

"Zigzagging aimlessly over the water," said one of the young flies. This was a fair bet in any case.

"No, before that."

"Er … you were telling us about the Great Trout."

"Ah. Yes. Right. The Trout. Well, you see, if you’ve been a good mayfly, zigzagging up and down properly—"

"—taking heed of your elders and betters—"

"—then eventually the Great Trout—"

Clop

Clop

"Yes?" said one of the younger mayflies.

There was no reply.

"The Great Trout what?" said another mayfly, nervously.

They looked down at a series of expanding concentric rings on the water.

"The holy sign!" said a mayfly. "I remember being told about that! A Great Circle in the water! Thus shall be the sign of the Great Trout!"

See also[edit]

• Golden age
• Neoreactionary movement
• Nostalgia
• Presentism
• Nationalist pseudohistory
• Trumpism — peak GOD in the USA
• UKIP

External links[edit]

• It's the Children Who are Wrong.

Bibliography[edit]

• The Way We Never Were: American Families And The Nostalgia Trap, Stephanie Coontz^[21]
• The Idea of Decline in Western History, Arthur Herman^[22]
• The Good Old Days — They Were Terrible!, Otto L. Bettmann^[23]

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