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Pep 245
Michel Pelletiermichel at digicool.com
Thu Apr 5 15:04:27 EDT 2001
> I guess I should just give up my fight against PEP 245... It is clear> to me that either I am the only one who things that interfaces, at> least in the proposed form, are next to useless in Python,probably not the only one.> or those> who agree with me do not read the news group, or simply don't care> enough to reply. These behaviors of other people whom you've never met are "clear" toyou? But this is beside the point, it's seems to me you're justventing, I'm not sure why. PEP 245 is just a proposal. Guido willaccept it or reject based on its merits and comments from thecommunity. Rest assured, I will cite your comments in the PEP when Ipost a new revision. > It is also obvious to me that there is serious> thrust for interface adoption coming from "Digital Creations"... (Do> new Guido's employers have a lot of say in the situation? I can> speculate that they do... but then again I don't know for sure.)<yawn> Conspiracy theories this early in the morning? If you read PEP245 you'll see that this idea has been in the works for over twoyears. Long before PL came to work for us. There was quite a bit ofdiscussion in the types-sig archive from years back by Jim, Tim,PaulP, Guido, and many others. PEP 245 is not just some idea that Icame up with, I didn't come up with it at all! I'm just championingit.As for DC having Python influence, well of course, but not the reasonsthat you speculate. The reason is we're probably the biggest largescale Python production system in existence. It's not because we payGuido's salary. And it's certainly not because I'm "influencing"Guido, at IPC 9, he didn't even recognize me or remember my name.(Not at all his fault, of course, he's cannot be expected to rememberthe names of the thousands of people who use python even though he maywant to, and he and I had only very briefly met once before asco-workers, and we have *never* worked together on any projects,interfaces or otherwise.)> One thing still bothers me -- Perl people will have a real reason to> laugh. Indeed, interfaces in a loosely typed language that supports> introspection -- that's a real joke!Please, is FUD how you're going to argue against this?-Michel
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