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[Python-Dev] Spreading the Python 3 religion (was Re: PEP 414 - Unicode Literals for Python 3)

Brett Cannonbrett at python.org
Tue Feb 28 16:23:41 CET 2012


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:53, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:> On Feb 28, 2012, at 08:41 AM, R. David Murray wrote:>> >Hmm.  It seems to me that this argument implies that PEP 414 is just> >as likely to *slow down* adoption of Python3 as it is to speed it up,> >since if this issue is as big a barrier as indicated, many potential> >porters may choose to wait until OS vendors are supporting 3.3 widely> >before starting their ports.  We are clearly expecting that the reality> >is that the impact will be at worse neutral, and hopefully positive.>> If PEP 414 helps some projects migrate to Python 3, great.>> But I really hope we as a community don't perpetuate the myth that you> cannot> port to Python 3 without this, and I hope that we spend as much effort on> educating other Python developers on how to port to Python 3 *right now*> supporting Python 2.6, 2.7, and 3.2.  That's the message we should be> spreading and we should be helping developers understand exactly how to do> this effectively, among the many great options that exist today.  Only in> the> most extreme cases or the most inertially challenged projects should we say> "wait for Python 3.3".>Well, when the code is committed I will update the porting HOWTO and pushthe __future__ imports first since they cover more versions of Python (i.e.Python 3.2). But I will mention the options that skip the __future__imports for those that choose not to use them (or have already done thework of using the u prefix in their code). Plus that doc probably will needan update of caveats that seem to bit everyone (e.g. the str(bytes) thingwhich I didn't know about) when trying to do source-compatible versions.-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/attachments/20120228/6e6b5710/attachment-0001.html>


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