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[Python-Dev] PEP: Migrating the Python CVS to Subversion
"Martin v. Löwis"martin at v.loewis.de
Wed Aug 3 21:22:10 CEST 2005
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:>>I haven't received any offers to make a qualified statement. I only>>know that I would oppose an approach to ask somebody but our>>volunteers to do it for free, and I also know that I don't want to>>spend my time researching commercial alternatives (although I>>wouldn't mind if you spent your time).>>> I don't quite understand what you meant here: are you opposing> spending PSF money on a hosting company if and only if volunteers> who take on the job don't get paid ?No. I'm opposed to approaching somebody to do it for free, exceptthe somebody are the pydotorg volunteers (IOW, I won't take giftsfrom anybody else in this matter).> I've done a bit of research on the subject and so far only found> CollabNet and VA offering commercial services in this area. VA hosts> SourceForge so that's a non-option, I guess :-)It's not that I dislike VA - I personally think they are doing agreat job with SourceForge, and I like SourceForge a lot. Thereare just some issues with it (like that they offer no Subversion).The question would be: what precisely is the commercial offering fromVA: does it provide subversion? how is the user management done?etc.> I know that Greg Stein worked for CollabNet, so thought it might be a> good idea to ask him about the idea to move things to CollabNet.> Of course, before taking this route, I wanted to get a feeling> for the general attitude towards a commercial approach, which> is why I tossed in the idea.Ok - I expect that the project might be *done* before we even havea single commercial offer, with a precise service description,and a precise price tag. That makes commercial offers so difficult:that it is so time expensive to use them, that you might spendless time doing it yourself.> Other non-commercial alternatives are Berlios and Savannah, but> I'm not sure whether they'd offer Subversion support.For me, they fall into the "I won't take gifts" category.> BTW, have you considered using Trac as issue tracker on> svn.python.org ?You mean, me personally? I quite like the Subversion tracker,and don't want to trade it for anything else. I know Guidowants to use Roundup (which is also written in Python),and obviously so does Richard Jones.The main questions are the same as with this PEP: how to dothe migration from SF (without losing data), and how todo the ongoing maintenance. It's just that finding answersto these questions is so much harder, therefore, this PEPis *only* about CVS.Regards,Martin
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