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Guido van Rossum wrote:>> > I added warnings to statcache & xmllib which are deprecated in the docs.> > Any others need to be done?  Should statcache be removed from test_sundry?> > Should any modules be moved into lib-old?  posixfile?>> A good exercise would be to do a 1-minute review of every module in> the library and decide for yourself if you'd deprecate it if you were> BDFL.  I'll gladly review the list.Here's a long list of issues for dealing with deprecation in the standard library.Recommend to move to lib-old:FCNTL     deprecated 2001/05/09 - libundoc.tex (under obsolete-modules)gopherlib in pep 4, before oct 2000 - not deprecated in code or docposixfile in pep 4, before oct 2000 - not deprecated in code, 1.5 in docsregsub    deprecated 2000/12/19 - libundoc.tex (under obsolete-modules)stringold not deprecated in code - not documented anywheretzparse   libundoc.tex (under obsolete-modules)TERMIOS   deprecated 2001/02/27 - not documented anywherePython modules I recommend for deprecation:audiodevC modules I recommend for deprecation (not sure whatto do to deprecate these, update PEP 4 and comment out of Setup?):dlmodulempzmodulepcremodulepypcremodulerotormodulestropmoduleyuvconvert# SGI specific modules, is there any use for these anymore???almodulecdmoduleclmoduleflmodulefmmoduleimgfilesgimodulesvmoduleShould there be a deprecation schedule or estimate for modules we know will become obsolete to give an approximate time?  Regex comes to mind.Should User{Dict, List, String} be deprecated since one can derivefrom {dict, list, str}?  Or perhaps scheduled to be deprecated at some point in the future?Should library uses of UserDict (List & String aren't used) be converted to new instances deriving from {}?  UserDict is used in:    cgi.FormContentDict    cookie.Morsel    cookie.BaseCookie    os._Environ    weakref.WeakKeyDictionary    weakref.WeakValueDictionaryHow should deprecated classes/functions/methods be handled?    htmllib.HTMLParser.do_nextid()    pty.master_open()    pty.slave_open()    pstats.Stats.ignore()    random.Random.randint()    rfc822.AddrlistClass    string.zfill()How should deprecated parameter usage be handled?(ie, can call with no params, but should always use 1+ params)    Cookie.Cookie()Should we (re)move everything that was deprecated in 1.5.2/1.6or earlier?  Or perhaps even 2.0?  This info is from the docs:    array.read()                    - 1.5.1    array.write()                   - 1.5.1    cmpcache                        - 1.6    cmp                             - 1.6    operator.sequenceIncludes       - 2.0    operator.isCallable             - 2.0    posixfile                       - 1.5    profile.Stats.ignore()          - 1.5.1    random.Random.randint()         - 2.0    string.atof()                   - 2.0    string.atoi()                   - 2.0    string.atol()                   - 2.0    sys.exc_traceback               - 1.5    tempfile.template               - 2.0    sys.exit_thread                 - 1.5.2Neal

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