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Version0.11 of the Neovim text editor has been released. Notable changesin this release include simpler Language Server Protocol (LSP) clientsetup, improved tree-sitter performance, better emoji support, andenhancements for Neovim's embedded terminal emulator. See therelease notes fora full list of changes.
Posted Mar 26, 2025 20:55 UTC (Wed) byproski (subscriber, #104) [Link] (2 responses) Yet configuring Neovim was a nightmarish experience. There are tons on guides online, they overlap partly and differ in some details. I'm supposed to install a plugin manager (there are plenty of choices), a package manager, I need to understand the difference between LSP servers and clients, and everybody says I need 5-10 plugins to get the right experience. Many plugins are discontinued and archived on Github, some have newer replacements, others don't. One plugin was archived because its author committed suicide :( At some point I just stopped messing with configs and decided to get back to it one day. I haven't touched it since. Posted Mar 27, 2025 1:22 UTC (Thu) byDimeCadmium (subscriber, #157243) [Link] Posted Mar 27, 2025 8:13 UTC (Thu) bybluss (subscriber, #47454) [Link] Posted Mar 27, 2025 0:41 UTC (Thu) byjokeyrhyme (subscriber, #136576) [Link] (2 responses) For folks that are curious about the joy of a terminal editor but with much less setup required, check out https://helix-editor.com/ ! Posted Mar 27, 2025 16:33 UTC (Thu) byajmacleod (guest, #1729) [Link] (1 responses) Posted Mar 30, 2025 14:52 UTC (Sun) bydenials (subscriber, #3413) [Link] Posted Mar 27, 2025 1:04 UTC (Thu) bydilinger (subscriber, #2867) [Link] (10 responses) Posted Mar 27, 2025 2:08 UTC (Thu) byjmalcolm (subscriber, #8876) [Link] (4 responses) The primary motivation for using Debian Stable seems to be that you want to just use your system instead of having to constantly fiddle with it. Yet every time I see a comment from somebody using Debian Stable, it is about how they are having to work around limitations or that they spent time fiddling with something only to find out it will not work with the packages they are using. Is Debian Stable really less fiddling? I hope this question does not come off wrong. I am sincerely curious to know the perspective of a real Debian Stable user. Posted Mar 27, 2025 2:32 UTC (Thu) bydilinger (subscriber, #2867) [Link] Posted Mar 27, 2025 12:03 UTC (Thu) byballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link] Posted Mar 27, 2025 16:28 UTC (Thu) byLtWorf (subscriber, #124958) [Link] They've been working fine for several years, with the occasional update when the local public transport company changed their API and I had to fix that component. Posted Mar 28, 2025 9:14 UTC (Fri) byNYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link] I did install a few non-standard things to make that work, which wasn't particularly hard (as compared to installing any other random tarball, anyway). It is really nice being able to just install unattended-upgrades and walk away from the damn thing without having to worry about it getting pwned or some update breaking things. Posted Mar 27, 2025 14:32 UTC (Thu) bymiekg (subscriber, #4403) [Link] (1 responses) Posted Mar 27, 2025 21:03 UTC (Thu) bybluss (subscriber, #47454) [Link] Posted Mar 28, 2025 8:48 UTC (Fri) bypabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link] (2 responses) Posted Mar 28, 2025 16:38 UTC (Fri) bydilinger (subscriber, #2867) [Link] (1 responses) Posted Mar 29, 2025 2:35 UTC (Sat) bypabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]Good to see configuration improvements
Switching to Neovim as my main editor two years ago was one of the best choices I made in my career. With Neovim experience, I can use plain vim efficiently. Virtually every Linux install has an editor I can use, that's amazing. Using \f for formatting is very useful, I don't have to indent anything.Good to see configuration improvements
To be honest, most of that seems true for "plain vim" as well. :)Good to see configuration improvements
Using a "distribution" or configuration package such as AstroNvim is probably the recommended way to avoid having to configure all the advanced features yourself.neovim good and neovim alternatives also good
Great improvements here, yay!neovim good and neovim alternatives also good
I tried Helix just now and found it immensely irritating. Similar enough to vi/vim to be usable, different enough to be constantly annoying. I also raised an eyebrow at the source package being the best part of ten times the size of vim's... I understand the logic behind some of the more obvious changes but when the vast majority of systems I use on a daily basis don't have hx available but have vim instead there seems little point in adding such confusion to my muscle memory.neovim good and neovim alternatives also good
Right there with you. I installed it after reading the suggestion and tried it for a few days but it seems 25 years of vim has broken me.neovim in debian
Damn, Debian *just* got 0.10 into Trixie five days ago. Every time I've tried to use fancy neovim plugins to get a nice IDE setup, the plugin stack requires a newer version of neovim than I have available.neovim in debian
Honest question...neovim in debian
It's a rare instance where something in debian stable didn't work for me (and to be fair, in this case debian _unstable_ also wouldn't have worked for me) on my desktop systems. I use debian stable so that things don't randomly break on my laptop, my kid's laptop, and my wife's laptops. I set them to auto-update for security updates, and things go smoothly. I have exactly 4 non-stable packages installed on my laptop (three debian-supplied backport packages - yggdrasil, yt-dlp, and smartmontools; and one dino-im package I built myself that includes a specific patch that upstream won't accept), and a flatpak for gnome errands. Otherwise, I almost never find myself wishing I had some bleeding-edge piece of software. And I appreciate that work has gone into the debian package in order to get it stable and DFSG-compliant, unlike a random flatpak or upstream-supplied binary or something.neovim in debian
Trixie is testing/unstable, not Debian stable (which is bookworm).neovim in debian
I made some touchscreens at home that control lights and some other appliances. They run on debian. The great thing is that I still get openssl and whatnot fixed but it won't randomly stop compiling new versions of my application because python has decided to drop yet another module for example.neovim in debian
I use Debian stable on a Raspberry Pi. It mostly does DNS-over-HTTPS resolution for my network, but in theory it's also a media server.neovim in debian
Compiling and installing your own compiled Debian package is very easy. I do this for more than a year now on my Ubuntu system. Seehttps://miek.nl/2023/september/10/nvim-debian-pkg/neovim in debian
thanks. had never heard of cpack. It's also possible - if you can use the binaries neovim publishes, to "convert" their binary releases to a .deb quite quickly.neovim in debian
Wonder if using the packaged plugins would be a more stable way to go, then there might be some more compatibility with the distro neovim.neovim in debian
Yeah, I briefly checked into this, but I didn't see any obviously neovim packaged IDE plugins. I do see debhelper support for packaging them (via dh-vim-addons), but maybe I'm using the wrong search queries?neovim in debian
I see lots of vim-* packages but seemingly nothing for neovim yet, I guess most Debian folks who use it are used to using the neovim plugin manager and it is enough for them.
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