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Database dumps
by Byrial Jensen 17 Apr '25

17 Apr '25
Until some weeks agohttp://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html usedto show 4 dumps in progress at the same time. That meant that newdatabase dumps normally was available within about 3 weeks for alldatabases except for enwiki and maybe dewiki where the dump process dueto size took longer time.However the 4 dumps processes at one time become 3 some weeks ago. Andafter massive failures at June 4, only one dump has been in progress atthe same time. So at the current speed it will take several months tocome thru all dumps.Is it possible to speed up the process again using several dumpprocesses at the same time?Thank you,Byrial
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User-Agent:
by Domas Mituzas 17 Apr '25

17 Apr '25
Hi!from now on specific per-bot/per-software/per-client User-Agent header is mandatory for contacting Wikimedia sites.Domas
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EBNF grammar project status?
by Steve Bennett 01 Apr '25

01 Apr '25
What's the status of the project to create a grammar for Wikitext in EBNF?There are two pages:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitext_Metasyntaxhttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_specNothing seems to have happened since January this year. Also the comments onthe latter page seem to indicate a lack of clear goal: is this just a funproject, is it to improve the existing parser, or is it to facilititate anew parser? It's obviously a lot of work, so it needs to be of clearbenefit.Brion requested the grammar IIRC (and there's a comment to that effect athttp://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7), so I'm wondering what became of it.Is there still a goal of replacing the parser? Or is there some alternativeplan?Steve
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Missing Section Headings
by Marc Riddell 13 Sep '24

13 Sep '24
Hello,I have been a WP editor since 2006. I hope you can help me. For some reasonI no longer have Section Heading titles showing in the Articles. This istrue of all Headings including the one that carries the Article subject'sname. When there is a Table of Contents, it appears fine and, when I clickon a particular Section, it goes to that Section, but all that is there is astraight line separating the Sections. There is also no button to edit aSection. If I edit the page and remove the "== ==" markers from the SectionTitles, the Title then shows up, but not as a Section Heading. Also, I don'thave any Date separators on my Want List. This started 2 days ago. Anythoughts?Thanks,Marc Riddell[[User:Michael David]]
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I know it has been annoying a couple of people other than me, so now that I've learned how to make it work I'll share the knowledge here.tl;dr: Star the repositories. No, seriously. (And yes, you need to star each extension repo separately.)(Is there a place onmw.org to put this tidbit on?)------- Forwarded message -------From: "Brian Levine" <support(a)github.com> (GitHub Staff)To: matma.rex(a)gmail.comCc:Subject: Re: Commits in mirrored repositories not showing up on my profileDate: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:47:19 +0200Hi BartoszIn order to link your commits to your GitHub account, you need to have some association with the repository other than authoring the commit. Usually, having push access gives you that connection. In this case, you don't have push permission, so we don't link you to the commit.The easy solution here is for you to star the repository. If you star it - along with the other repositories that are giving you this problem - we'll see that you're connected to the repository and you'll get contribution credit for those commits.CheersBrian-- Matma Rex
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bluejeans
by Jeremy Baron 22 Feb '23

22 Feb '23
Hi,On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 3:36 PM, David Strine <dstrine(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:> We will be holding this brownbag in 25 minutes. The Bluejeans link has> changed:>>https://bluejeans.com/396234560I'm not familiar with bluejeans and maybe have missed a transitionbecause I wasn't paying enough attention. is this some kind ofexperiment? have all meetings transitioned to this service?anyway, my immediate question at the moment is how do you join withoutsharing your microphone and camera?am I correct thinking that this is an entirely proprietary stackthat's neither gratis nor libre and has no on-premise (not cloud)hosting option? are we paying for this?-Jeremy
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productivity of mediawiki developers
by rupert THURNER 29 May '17

29 May '17
hi,is there a statistics about mediawiki developer productivity? i justfell over a couple of pages and i am quite impressed i must say:* gabriel,https://github.com/gwicke, 2'300 commits last year* jeroen,https://github.com/JeroenDeDauw, 3'700 commits a year* ori,https://github.com/atdt, 1'700* james,https://github.com/jdforrester, 1'200* yuri,https://github.com/nyurik, 900* matt:https://github.com/mattflaschen, 400 commitsrupert
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Hi,YuviPanda, prtksxna, and myself (with help from Tim and Aaron) have beenworking the UrlShortener extension, which is designed to implement theURL shortener RfC[1] (specifically Tim's implementation suggestion).I've filed T108557[2] to deploy the extension to Wikimedia wikis. We'dlike to use the "w.wiki" short domain, which the WMF is already incontrol of.A test wiki has been set up mimicking what Wikimedia's configurationwould be like:http://urlshortener.wmflabs.org/, and has an accompanying"short" domain atus.wmflabs.org (e.g.http://us.wmflabs.org/3). Pleaseplay with it and report any bugs you might find :)[1]https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/URL_shortener[2]https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108557Thanks,-- Legoktm
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Phab blogs
by Amir E. Aharoni 19 Sep '16

19 Sep '16
Hi,I only now noticed that Phabricator has blogs:https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/blog/I couldn't find a way to subscribe to them in RSS. Is it possible?--Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִיhttp://aharoni.wordpress.com‪“We're living in pieces,I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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06 Jul '16
"I came across a patch from a user who was keen to move himself from"Patch contributors" to "Developers" in the MediaWiki CREDITS file[1]. It had been sitting there for over a year. He doesn't seem tohave been active since. I don't know what to do with it. It made methink.Do we have it documented anywhere how we use this credits file and whywe feel the need to distinguish between Developers and PatchContributors? It seems like a recipe for disaster in my opinion as itcan only lead to hurt feelings due to contributors feeling unfairlytreated.https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version/Credits leadswith 'We would like to recognize the following persons for theircontribution to MediaWiki." - if someone is not in that list are theynot as important?If we keep these files we should probably explain the rules to whatadding names looks like within these files and what the process toadding your name is (can I add myself? Is there a process like getting+2?)To take another extreme, we might consider abandoning such a file infavour of something automatically generated. Things likehttps://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/graphs/contributors do a farbetter job at allowing people to see who contributed to a tool andmaking people feel like their work is rewarded.On a slightly related note, can we abandon the practice of puttingnames inside files themselves? I see this practice in JavaScript andPHP files throughout core (grep for @author). As Team Geek [2] (greatread btw) says "unlike other collaborative pieces of creative work...software keeps changing even after it's "done". So while listingcontributors credits at the end of a movie is a safe and static thing,attempting to add and remove names from a source file is anever-ending exercise in insanity". For similar reasons this practicegives an impression of ownership of a file/code reviewresponsibilities (which are not always true) and risks hurt feelings.[1]https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/CREDITS[2]http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&keywords=9781449302…
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