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Wikitech-lSeptember 2003

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12 Oct '03
Andre Engels wrote:> On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tim Starling wrote:> > logged-in users, that way most edits go to a web server which is close> > to the master DB.>> Would it not be better to keep the mirrors read-only, and have them redirect> to the master for write-access? To have writing in several places causes> significant overhead in avoiding edit conflicts and such.There is a lot of hypothesis and discussion here. Have you consideredthat there are some 40-60 page views for every single edit? What aboutusing some real statistics instead of guessing? (Just my hypothesis.)Plus the tech discussion should be on wikitech-l, not wikipedia-l.http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics reports 40 views peredit, as an average since July 2002. More recently, the EnglishWikipedia has received: Month Edits per month Page views views/edit --------- --------------- ---------- ---------- July, 2003 212K 9.9M 46 Aug, 2003 248K 13.0M 52 Sept 1-24, 2003 227K 13.9M 61As a comparison, the fast response time susning.nu wiki features 100page views per edit. A faster Wikipedia would receive more pageviews, probably 30M per month. The number of edits per month wouldalso increase, but perhaps not as much.The Wikipedia statistics are spread out over too many places, and noneof these pages are wiki-editable, so I cannot add cross-referencelinks. - Webalizer graphs,http://www.wikipedia.org/stats/ - Article count,http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics - Erik Zachte's edit count,http://www.wikipedia.org/wikistats/ older version athttp://members.chello.nl/epzachte/Wikipedia/Statistics/EN/Sitemap.htm-- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik -http://aronsson.se/
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Erik, - re: massive fundraising campaign.Well, I'd be willing to donate a few hundred dollars. Where do I sendit?I originally applied to become a "Developer" because I hoped I might beable to do something to speed up the response time. Unfortunately, Ihaven't made the effort to wade through all the source code - and lasttime I checked, there weren't any Requirements Document or ArchitecturalDesign Document.I've had quite a bit of experience with client-server programming, andI've managed to get more speed out of various systems. It's often amatter of using a profiling tool to identify bottlenecks.How many hits an hour do we get during primetime?Ed Poor
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When are the servers going to be upgraded? This isholding up distribution of the press release (we'vealready hit the 300,000 figure) since the downtimeassociated with the upgrade is not something we wantto present potential news users or donators to. Itwould also be nice for them to have responsive pageload times. Either way I would still like to delay theEnglish press release distribution one week afternon-English distribution. -- mav__________________________________Do you Yahoo!?The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product searchhttp://shopping.yahoo.com
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Special:Booksources
by Nikola Smolenski 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03
I wanted to add search of National library of Serbia (http://www.nbs.bg.ac.yu) to Special:Booksources, but it needs unique ID for every search. I could make a PHP script that would go around this, would it be included in Wikipedia?
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a suggestion for a new option
by Tomos at Wikipedia 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03
I am posting this here (as opposed to sourceforge) since this idea needs some discussion, etc.I often think that viewing the latest version of the page after just editing it is not necessary.When I press "Save" button, all I need is the message that "data is now saved," not the whole article/ page.So it would be nice to have that option in one way or another. It could be either a user option ortwo save buttons with the edit box. Or "data is now saved" is the default, and there is a link to thepage just edited. (The last option is similar to the way login proceeds. You get a link to the previously visited page after logging in successfully.)And I am speculating that if the page is not displayed after saving, it would save some server load.Even if I am wrong here, I don't have to wait for a page to load. So I can save some time.Tomos_________________________________________________________________Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now!http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa
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No numbers for single letter headings
by Chris Seaton 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03
I have enabled numbered headings but I think this should be bypassedwhen the heading is just a single letter (used quite a lot inalphabetical lists) as it looks quite strange. Seehttp://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases if you have headersenabled to see what I mean.Actually, perhaps it would be better to put a colon between the numberand header. "6: F" instead of "6 F", which looks like a school classname.Thoughts?-- Chris Seatonchris(a)chrisseaton.comhttp://www.chrisseaton.com/
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language-fr
by tarquin 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03
Could someone puthttp://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%E9dia:LanguageFr.php into CVS and then onto the server?Sorry, I'm having major CVS headache :(
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CVS access
by Luc Van Oostenryck 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03
Is it possible that I get CVS access?I intent to use it only to upload languageFR.phpThanks.-- Looxix
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Mav asked, "When are the servers going to be upgraded?"To which I say:Yeah, I just failed to recruit a published author last month, becauseresponse time was so slow that she said, "I think that website is down."Any way of keeping response time under 10 seconds consistently?Ed Poor
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01 Oct '03
If handling the occasional "unsubscribed e-mail" is the hardest chore,then *yawn* this ought to be about as easy as my wikien-l admin job.Ed Poor
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