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Swedish umlaut å, ä, and ö.
by Dan Koehl 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03
I have noticed that some people from other wikipedias change our swedish å on the Swedish Wikipedia, when they make language links. I have thought about why, and I suppose its because they see something different than we do.In the normal HTML, our å is written å ä is written ä and ö is written ö. Is this the present configuration in the php script, or does our strange letters confuse people so much that they change them since they look like errors in their point of view? _________________________________________Dan KoehlICQ#: 4046787_________________________________________
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What's up with Wiktionary?
by Jay Bowks 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03
Greetings!What's up with Wiktionary?I've been reading the Talk pages and there's an awful lot of complaining andwhining. First, about the Interlingua entries. I need a large file type of listthat I can work from to add entries.They are moving to the index section.They can be deleted when I'm donethe bulk of entering the multilingualinfo I have.Now, please don't misunderstand me...I'm willing to follow protocols and learn the wiki-ways. Plus whateverconventions can be made clear I'llwillingly follow.But...Someone complained about my French,ehem ehem, not my swearing mind you,my use of French, in that it isn't properenough, and not accurate enough. Wellall I can say is that I'm not a native French speaker, my French High Schoolteacher learned it in Algiers and it's beenyears since I had a fluent conversation init for more than five minutes. I do whatI can. My German is rotten also, butI do what I can. When I don't know I either leave it blank or put in the Englishas a marker for me to look up that wordlater. Again, the index entries are thereto help me enter in new info into the mainWiktionary... similarly with Wikipediaarticles. Two windows open, cut andpaste the look ups, edit here and there,etc.Now I'm getting requests to "slow down"how un-wiki is that???Then about the use of HTML tags, well,frankly, the "list" tags in the Wiktionaryare all HTML, my additions are usuallya mixture of both HTML and wiki-coding.I find it more assuring to write <BR> thanto let the parser put a line where it thinksit should. Same for <P> and for <HR>the ---- is sometimes good sometimes not clear enough for me. These are basicHTML tags that shouldn't scare anyone.If tables are a problem, I've only put thesein the Wikipedia Homepage for Interlinguaand Volapuk and in a couple of wikipediaentries where everything needed a certainlayout, like the table of HTML and ASCIIcodes in the Interlingua Wikipedia.Now my questions regarding the Wiktionaryare:Is there a set way of entering the info?Is there an entity that can decide this onceand for all?Is it possible to have foreign language appendixes on the English Wiktionary?Or...Is there a possibility that a namespacewill happen anytime soon for other languages?(There's even complaints that "this is an Englishdictionary, isn't it!!!" Well, maybe so but I thoughtit was also a multilingual dictionary, and that's whereI'm interested in helping out).So those are the issues and I welcomeany insights or clues you can pass my way.Cheers,Jay B.
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Stats on growth wikipedia
by Wouter Vanden Hove 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03
HiI'm looking for more detailed statistics on the growth on wikipedia. But more then a few milestones I'm not able to find.On the mainpage of Wikepedia is it stated: "We started on January 15, 2001 and are already working on XXX articles <http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_is_an_article> in the English version."with XXX the number of articles on a given date. But it would be nice to see how that evolves over time in a single graph. [yearly, monthly ,weekly]Is it possible to generate such graphs?Wouter Vanden Hove
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Wikipedia offline reader
by Magnus Manske 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03
I have written a very rudimentary wikipedia offline reader. It can be downloaded athttp://test.wikipedia.org/upload/WINOL.zipThis contains the current source (GPL), and a Windows exe. You'll also need the SQL dump (better stick to en;-)For those few how tried the last version: Get this one! It doesn't need the conversion anymore, it reads the articles right from the SQL file.You'll have to run the "Tools/Index" once on the SQL file, though. This will create a ~4 MB index of the article titles and the position of their data set in the SQL file. Takes about 1 min.Don't expect too much from this version. You can browse the 'pedia, read all the text and see most of the formatting, but that's about it. No images, no offline edit, no search function. Yet.Magnus
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Functionality of "Go"
by Krzysztof P. Jasiutowicz 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03
Hello all,Is this the expected behaviour of the "Go" function (next to "Search") thatwhen I put in the box "Domenico" there's "Domenico Cimarosa" page displayed?This seems to happen consistently so it might be designed that way.Regards,Kpjas.
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Wiktionary tweaks
by Youandme 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03
As a new Wiktionary "full time" contributor I'm interestedabout the development status of software branch meant for Wiktionary.If the development is suspended for the time beingthen please add at least featuresthat makes life easy on "normal" Wikipedias:- let "diff" link on Recent Changes point to respective revisions(currently _every_ diff-link shows differences between current andlast but one revision)- add "Show preview before edit box and not after it" optionI hope that others will appreciate those improvementsas much as I will. Thanks in advance.Youandme
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Umlaut and other special characters
by Leonard Tulipan 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03
Hi!While browsing thruhttp://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Most_wanted_stubs ist stumpled accross this page:http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=T%C3%BCbingen&redirect=noI put a redirect on it for the time being but this is not the best behaviour. Basically this page should be "merged" with the correct one witout umlaut( [[Tuebingen]] ), but I don't know how to do this.When I try to go to "What links here" I am suddenly at a page Tübingen (with the umlaut intact), I am a bit baffled by this, and don't know where to start looking.CheersLeo
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Reminder: cross-site scripting bugs
by Brion Vibber 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03
Just a reminder to all -- when inserting user-supplied text directly intothe output stream, always remember to run it through htmlspecialchars() orsome other filter to avoid injection of JavaScript or other potentiallymalicious goodies. (As well as accidentally page-ugliness due to someonetalking about an html tag in an edit summary, etc.)-- brion vibber (brion @pobox.com)
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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wiktionary redirections
by The Cunctator 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03
On 2/25/03 1:36 AM, "Brion Vibber" <brion(a)pobox.com> wrote:> On lun, 2003-02-24 at 22:09, Jay Bowks wrote:>> Hey Brion,>> thanks so much for doing all the work of redirecting the Wiktionary>> entries. How'd you change the caps so quick ? :-)))> > The magic of perl scripts!> > while( $x = <> ) {> $x =~ s/^(\[\[[A-Z \(\)]+\]\])/lc "$1"/e;> print $x;> }> Because I love syntactic sugar, I can't help saying that the above can bereduced to while(<>) { s/^(\[\[[A-Z ()]+\]\])/lc $1/e; print }Or, using the -p tag:perl -p -e "s/^(\[\[[A-Z ()]+\]\])/lc $1/e"to get that sedlike functionality.
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