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HTML video element: negative playbackRate #3754

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addition/proposalNew features or enhancementsinteropImplementations are not interoperable with each otherneeds implementer interestMoving the issue forward requires implementers to express interesttopic: media
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The Problem

The spec does not require support for negative playback rates. Some browsers support a negative playback rate, others do not.

BrowserSupport?
Safari
Chrome
Firefox
Edge?

Should I add other browsers to this table?

Proposed Changes

  1. an update to the spec to require support for negative playback rate
  2. browser willingness to implement the functionality

Perhaps it would make sense to require the same playback rates in both directions. So if a browser supports from +0.1 to +16, then it would also need to support -0.1 to -16.

Previous discussion

Firefox

@cpearce from the Mozilla team summarized the opinion of the Firefox team over in#2754 (comment) :

As a feature, it seems more of a gimmick, a usage pattern left over from the days of VCRs, rather than something which will have significant use in the modern web. We don't see a compelling use case for it.

Chrome

It has probably been discussed somewhere, but I do not where the discussion is at this time. I couldn't find an existing Chromium issue.

Usefulness

I originally described this example over in#2754 (comment)

Video editing in the browser is one area where negative playback rates would be useful. In Adobe Premiere, a popular video editing tool, there are 3 hotkeys that are used for "shuttling" (moving through the video): J, K, and L.

HotkeyBehavior
Jplay the video in reverse. continually press it to increase the (negative) playback speed
Kpause the video, and set the playback speed to 1
Lplay the video in the forward direction. continued presses increase the (positive) playback speed

Users of Premiere areconstantly using this system to navigate videos, and anyone who is making a video editor in the browser will likely want to reproduce this same workflow.

A tutorial demonstrating shuttling in Premiere can be viewed on YouTubehere.

Relevant links

I'll find and/or create links on the relevant browser issue trackers, but I haven't yet.

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