cc@mcepl

For those who might be interested in this module, let’s continue with the fun onhttps://git.sr.ht/~mcepl/nntplib (and on PyPI ashttps://pypi.org/project/nntplib/).

Thanks@mcepl for having created nntplib on PyPi and making it still alive :)
It is greatly appreciated as this module works pretty fine, has a great documentation, and implements the latest version of the NNTP standard (RFC 3977). Too bad that its test suite had too many false alerts :(

And thanks@vstinner too for all your work on Python!

Too bad that its test suite had too many false alerts :(

Running a CI on a live server is hard. Each time that the server is busy, being upgraded, or has some network issues, the test fails. Sadly, no one managed to modify test_nntplib to tolerate temporary server/network issues.

IMO it's better to maintain such project outside Python toease contributions. These days,pip install nntplib is trivial. And it's possible to only have a requirement onPython >= 3.13 using environment markers.

For those who might be interested in this module, let’s continue with the fun onhttps://git.sr.ht/~mcepl/nntplib (and on PyPI ashttps://pypi.org/project/nntplib/).

If you look carefully to my PR, you will see that I recommend this replacement in What's New in Python 3.13, where the removal is documented ;-)

Usingimport nntplib|from nntplib regex, I found a single project on PyPI top 5,000 projects (2023-04-13) using nntplib:zipfile36 project.

zipfile36 only usesnntplib in a copy of the Pythontest/support/__init__.py file:

zipfile36-0.1.3.tar.gz: zipfile36-0.1.3/test/support/__init__.py: import nntplib

https://pypi.org/project/zipfile36/ is a backport of the zipfile modulefrom Python 3.6 "which contains some improvements". Suggested usage:

if sys.version_info >= (3, 6):    import zipfileelse:    import zipfile36 as zipfile

I suppose that Python 3.13 users are not supposed to use a backport of the Python 3.6 zipfile module :-)

If you look carefully to my PR, you will see that I recommend this replacement in What's New in Python 3.13, where the removal is documented ;-)

Thanks!

Usingimport nntplib|from nntplib regex, I found a single project on PyPI top 5,000 projects (2023-04-13) using nntplib:zipfile36 project.

I use it in myhttps://pypi.org/project/pygn/ (which certainly isn’t in any Top anything ;)).

I use it in myhttps://pypi.org/project/pygn/ (which certainly isn’t in any Top anything ;)).

Maybe add a requirement to your own PyPI nntplib module? :-) (with a env markers to only install it on Python 3.13 and newer).

Thanks@mcepl for having created nntplib on PyPi and making it still alive :) It is greatly appreciated as this module works pretty fine, has a great documentation, and implements the latest version of the NNTP standard (RFC 3977). Too bad that its test suite had too many false alerts :(

Any patches are hugely welcome! Especially if somebody helped with mocking out the servers. It doesn't make a sense to run the test suite against real servers.

How can the module be under the BSD license, as it was copied from the stdlib that’s under the Python license? (not the same thing as the PSF license)

How can the module be under the BSD license, as it was copied from the stdlib that’s under the Python license? (not the same thing as the PSF license)

You are right, I have to investigate thishttps://todo.sr.ht/~mcepl/pygn/9

Hmm, excepthttps://docs.python.org/3/license.html#psf-license-agreement-for-python-release really doesn’t read like something which could be used outside of the Python 3.11 itself.

Does anybody have any good example of a stand-alone Python module which would be licensed under PSF License?

Viahttps://pypi.org/classifiers/ here's the PyPI packages with the "License :: OSI Approved :: Python License (CNRI Python License" Trove classifier:

• https://pypi.org/search/?q=&o=-created&c=License+%3A%3A+OSI+Approved+%3A%3A+Python+License+%28CNRI+Python+License%29

(There's also a PSF licence one, but I guess you need Python licence.)

Any comments onhttps://git.sr.ht/~mcepl/nntplib/commit/4cb431e3e40d ?