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NAS in 2025 mostly about Synology but open to others

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phillyman

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Hi All,

I use a Synology 1512+ as my primary NAS. Shockingly it is still chugging along and can stream 4K to my TVs on LAN. It feels like I'm on borrowed time. I have not followed this segment at all in the last couple years. I know the transition to DSM 7 was very controversial and I remember reading that starting this year you have to use overpriced Synology drives on certain models.

Synology is a mature platform and from what I can glean they have pivoted to small enterprise solutions. Also probably because there isn't much need to update hardware as a consumer (see my system).

Do consumers still like Synology hardware/software? Do you like whatever system they now are on? Have you moved to something else like Ugreen (I see lots of ads) or ??? Or have you come up with some custom Apple Solution?

What do I use my system for? It is used as a central media hub for all family members. Backups for all. A secure VPN to access private cloud storage . No heavy lifting. Before somebody tells me it is not a (complete) backup solution. I know, I also have external HDs etc.

Thanks,
Philly
 
I'm glad to hear that DSM 7 is humming along. Did you mind the upgrade for 6 to 7? I don't remember what all the controversy was but that the pitchforks were out for blood.

I don't like relearning settings and all. I appreciated the ease of use of the Synology system so I've leaned to sticking with it.

Philly
I didn't mind the upgrade. I read a lot of warnings and pitchfork type posts ahead and time and determined that most of it was hyperbolic chatter from people who wanted to stay where they were, which they could do. Basically, the same whining we often see on MR. lol

To be honest, I haven't delved into a lot of the DSM offered programs, although I did checkout a few.
 
Have seen on other forums that Ugreen seem quite popular as an alternative to Synology.
I personally went terramaster and have a T6-423 which had for couple of years now.
What also seems popular is a Ubiquiti NAS and then attaching a mini PC to it. The Ubiquiti NAS is a Pure NAS so no Apps, Docker etc but is competitive on the price. Combine with a cheap isn MiniPC to run the Apps/Docker.
Kind of tempted that way for next time as looking at Ubiquiti Wi-Fi, switch, router etc and the NAS managed from same system and it plays well with Apple.
Just throwing it out there.

The complaints about Synology are just around the realistically using Synology Disks and they come with a hefty premium, that even the apple tax payers baulk at. That and the removal of more home based say we say features.
There is definite move towards enterprise and away from the prosumer market.

Dare I say it but in many ways like Apple moved away from the old Mac Pro market leaving nothing for the very high end users now. He replacements fit in the Apple market but the very top end not Apples interest now. Synology moving away from some sectors and those people vocal about it.
 
I've looked into Ubiquiti and I'm sure an excellent product. When I looked at routers etc it was pretty expensive and very enterprise centric. No doubt their NAS and integration would be nice. Honestly as a pure mac user adding a miniPC seems more hassle than its worth. I'll probably just stick with Synology.

Years ago before streaming really took off, I thought Apple might do a home "hub" NAS/Airport/AppleTV/Homekit center. I know one could replicate that setup with a macmini etc. Too bad they didn't go down that route.

I still hope against hope they will have some homepod/Apple TV mesh wifi network that would perfectly integrate with HomeKit etc.

Thank you for the feedback. It seems like the prosumer market just isn't big enough (or lucrative) and so they focus on VMs and more organization centric devices and software. I'm lucky that with a VPN and some backup I'm pretty happy. I can use other video/music apps to access the stuff on the server. I liked Videostation when it worked for me. But at some point it broke and I now happily use infuse.

Philly
 
"Synology has backtracked on one of its most unpopular decisions in years. After seeing NAS sales plummet in 2025, the company has decided to lift restrictions that forced users to buy its own Synology hard drives. The policy, introduced earlier this year, made third-party HDDs from brands like Seagate and WD practically unusable in newer models such as the DS925+, DS1825+, and DS425+. That change didn’t go over well. Users immediately criticised Synology for trying to lock them into buying its much more expensive drives. Many simply refused to upgrade, and reviewers called out the move as greedy and shortsighted. According to some reports, sales of Synology’s 2025 NAS models dropped sharply in the months after the restriction was introduced."

This is excellent news.

www.guru3d.com

Synology Reverses Policy Banning Third-Party HDDs After NAS sales plummet

Synology has backtracked on one of its most unpopular decisions in years. After seeing NAS sales plummet in 2025, the company has decided to lift restrictions that forced users to buy its own Synology hard drives.
www.guru3d.comwww.guru3d.com
 
"Synology has backtracked on one of its most unpopular decisions in years. After seeing NAS sales plummet in 2025, the company has decided to lift restrictions that forced users to buy its own Synology hard drives. The policy, introduced earlier this year, made third-party HDDs from brands like Seagate and WD practically unusable in newer models such as the DS925+, DS1825+, and DS425+. That change didn’t go over well. Users immediately criticised Synology for trying to lock them into buying its much more expensive drives. Many simply refused to upgrade, and reviewers called out the move as greedy and shortsighted. According to some reports, sales of Synology’s 2025 NAS models dropped sharply in the months after the restriction was introduced."

This is excellent news.

www.guru3d.com

Synology Reverses Policy Banning Third-Party HDDs After NAS sales plummet

Synology has backtracked on one of its most unpopular decisions in years. After seeing NAS sales plummet in 2025, the company has decided to lift restrictions that forced users to buy its own Synology hard drives.
www.guru3d.comwww.guru3d.com

They didn’t remove the lockout on M.2 SSDs though
 
They didn’t remove the lockout on M.2 SSDs though
I think that that is minor compared to HDDs, which I think more people use.
 
"Synology has backtracked on one of its most unpopular decisions in years. After seeing NAS sales plummet in 2025, the company has decided to lift restrictions that forced users to buy its own Synology hard drives. The policy, introduced earlier this year, made third-party HDDs from brands like Seagate and WD practically unusable in newer models such as the DS925+, DS1825+, and DS425+. That change didn’t go over well. Users immediately criticised Synology for trying to lock them into buying its much more expensive drives. Many simply refused to upgrade, and reviewers called out the move as greedy and shortsighted. According to some reports, sales of Synology’s 2025 NAS models dropped sharply in the months after the restriction was introduced."

This is excellent news.

www.guru3d.com

Synology Reverses Policy Banning Third-Party HDDs After NAS sales plummet

Synology has backtracked on one of its most unpopular decisions in years. After seeing NAS sales plummet in 2025, the company has decided to lift restrictions that forced users to buy its own Synology hard drives.
www.guru3d.comwww.guru3d.com
How long before they flip flop back?

I have a working 918+ and needed more space. I ordered a couple refurb SG Exos 26TB drives from Amazon. They have been fine. I was getting ready to need try the hack/workaround to add the drives to the "approved list" but in the end didn't.

I was actually thinking of getting a newer NAS, to help with transcoding, but they disabled? the transcoding in 2025 models for the Celerons. At this point I will just limp along with what I have until whenever. I will run Plex from my M4 Studio Max when I bother to set it up.

I also have an old 220j sitting around. Time to fire it up and see if I can get it going with some of the extra NAS HDDs I have. When I got the 918+ running, the 220j was not wanting to play nice, or I had a hard time spotting it on the network.
 
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I bought a DS418 six years ago, installed the drives from my Drobo, and it's still running great. It's not the fastest, but Synology updates it regularly. Compared to the Drobo, it's great.

Drobo claimed to be the "next big thing," but they fizzled. Synology is well-entrenched in enterprise and I think home users and small businesses gain a lot of advantage from that.

Yes, they had some bad policies but those policies didn't affect me. They haven't imposed any obsolescence on me, but I think they had a video codec licensing issue which forced them to remove some video streaming features. People don't understand that there are patent holders who hold medium-sized companies like Synology's feet to the fire to pay these fees, which can be unaffordable.

If I buy a new Synology box I'd want 10 Gb Ethernet, or at least 2.5 Gb. And definitely an SSD cache. Over 1 Gb Ethernet or WiFi, speeds are slow. not Synology's fault, that's just how it is. But I get automatic Time Machine backups without ever thinking about it, and the Synology backs itself up automatically as well. It has every feature you can think of and even more features you'd never think of.
 
I got Ugreen Hardware and installed TrueNAS (Open Source)

www.truenas.com

Enterprise Data Platform | TrueNAS Storage Solutions

Transform your data estate with TrueNAS Enterprise storage. Secure, scalable, high-performance data platform for every workflow.
www.truenas.comwww.truenas.com
 
I have a Terramaster F2-423 with two 14TB seagate drives I bought refurbished and a 2TB Intel SSD. I got it specifically because it is capable of running on any OS you want to. So far though, TOS 6 has been great.
What do you use if for? I'm considering an SSD-based Terramaster F8, and one of the things I'd like it to do is back up my wife and our kid's iPhones, but it's my understanding there's not a clear path to simply do that the way one might back them up on a Mac. On the other hand, IIRC from reading, it's possible to back up photos pretty easily, but they need to be in an album on the iPhone, not just the Photos library. I supposed would could create an album, then go to Library, Select All, and drag 'all' into that album, then back it up. Naturally I'd like this to be automatic and hassle free, like using Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my MacMini onto an external SSD.

Would appreciate hearing your experience, particularly if you've grappled with the usage case I'm facing.
 
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