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—Fenakhay^{(تكلم معاي ·ما ساهمت)}18:48, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Good contributions overall. Please sort out the duplicateدنيا andدني entries (you can pick which one to stick to, whether to bring over anything from the other entry, etc.). Also take care to keep IPA/transliterations consistent. Thanks for your work.73.11.139.16119:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Binged Caramel from ep 10 until ep 22 because of the quotes/links you added. (Ragequit at ep 23 during Fadi's conversation...) There's a scene inep 18 at 16:55 where Faris is sitting at a bar with Rahaf and tells her that models "بيكون جسمن على البِگْلِة", a new expression to me. Is this just بِكْلِة "buckle" but with g / is he even saying it with g or am I mishearing? Lughatuna's Arabic/Arabic dictionary defines ع البكلة as بالضبط تماما which I can see making sense in context.Still, when you think about it (talk)05:20, 10 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it does mean perfect or exact. I slowed it down it does sound more like بكلة instead of بگلة then. I couldn't really find anything about عالبگلة with a /ɡ/ pronunciation, so I think it just sounds that way because of him talking fast.Fayçalmf (talk)12:17, 10 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks!Still, when you think about it (talk)16:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

I just got access to Hassan el-Hajjé (1954)Le parler Arabe de Tripoli (Liban). I want to scan it, but in the meantime I thought you might like this list of /ɡ/ words from when he presents phoneme oppositions:

• gǟdek « droit qu'a acquis sur un immeuble, tel que magasin, boutique, etc., le locataire en raison des réparations et aménagements qu'il y a faits, tels que des fenêtres, des étagères, etc., droit qui lui demeure acquis comme une propriété qu'il a la faculté de transmettre par vente » (whew)
• garr « il abavardé »
• gamṛåk « il a acquitté les droits d'entrée d'une marchandise »
• gəmrok « douane »
• galä se dFit en jouant, lorsque les dés ne marquent pas les points attendus
• gədəɛ « jeune homme fort des muscles »
• gəlle « bille », plur.gəläl « billes »
• gdīš « mulet », fem. gdīše « mule » (variantekdīš,kdīše)
• grå̄m « gramme, (employé dans les administrations et les pharmacies »)^[sic]
• dagäz « il a désginé quelqu'un à un tiers, à un agent de police, soit par un geste, soit par un signe »
• ʾargīle « narguilé »
• jangalä « bohémien »
• sargäl « il aexilé,relégué »
• šargäl « il a fait chopper quelqu'un par uncroc-en-jambe (personne) ou en faisant obstacle à l'un de ses pieds (chien, chat ou petit enfant) »
• šangäl « il a marché avec un autre en se tenant par le bras »
• ɛgǟl « bourrelet en poil de chameau ou en laine qui sert à fixer le châle dont on se couvre la tête »
• lagän « vase de cuivre à rebord dans lequel on pétrit lapâte, où on lave le linge »
• bang « banque »
• lagläg « cigogne »

Absent from at least this list is a term I learned from a Tripolitanian friend that I think Hajjé would notatemṛå̄gbi, meaning "orange(s?)". There's an older formmṛå̄kbi in Michel Jiha's 1964 Bishmizzine texts, although for him he glosses it asZitronen(“lemons”) rather than oranges. (Jiha also writes „Etym. unklar“ in a footnote, but the story I got was that it's a nisbah ofmṛå̄keb, boats, reflecting the how the fruit apparently first arrived in the region up there)Still, when you think about it (talk)19:37, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Awesome find! Thank you for this.Fayçalmf (talk)06:53, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Excuse the long-winded citation, but this article from an anthology in celebration of the University of Balamand's ten-year anniversary:

مُحَمَّد قَاسِم [muḥammad qāsim] (1998), “لَهْجَةُ طَرَابُلُس: أَصْوَاتُهَا وَبَعْضُ تَرَاكِيبِهَا [lahjatu ṭarābulus ʔaṣwātuhā wabaʕḍu tarākībihā,The Dialect of Tripoli: Phonemes and Some Constructions]”, inElie Salem, editor,العَرَبِيَّةُ فِي لُبْنَان [al-ʕarabiyyatu fī lubnān,Arabic in Lebanon] (in Arabic),University of Balamand, page23

...has a small batch of its own in a section where it responds to El-Hajjé, although it's harder to be sure of exact vocalization since this one was written in Arabic. These could all probably go in an appendix if we can be sure of the translations/transliterations:

• فيقال للثرثار: حاجتگر أي كفى ثرثرة

  fa yuqālu liθ-θarθār: ḥå̄jtgərr ʔay kafā θarθarah

  For instance, a chatterbox is toldḥājtgirr, meaning 'quit yapping'

• وگمكرت السيارة

  wagamᵊkret s-siyyå̄ṛå?

  (please add an English translation of this usage example)

  (literally, “The cargamkar-ed?”)

• الحكي ما علىگمرك

  l-ḥaki mā ʕalagamrak? (gəmrok...?)

  (please add an English translation of this usage example)

  (literally, “That type of speech isn't up to yourgamr (i.e. you shouldn't speak that way)?”)

• ويقال للمراوغ المخادع حاجيگلا گلا بمعنى كفى لفًّا ودورانًا

  wa yuqālu lil-murāwiḡi l-muḵādiʕi ḥå̄jigalä galä(?) bi maʕnā kafā laffan wa dawarānā

  And someone evasive and deceptive is toldḥā̊jigala gala(?), meaning 'get to the point already'

• ويقال للقويگدع وللعبة الصِّبيانگلّه.

  wa yuqālu lil-qawiyyigədᵊʕ wa li luʕbati ṣ-ṣibyānigəlle.

  And a strong man is called aجدع(gidʕ) and the game boys play is calledگلة(gille,“marble”)

• ويقال أيضاً ما عنديكرام زيت، وفلان بيشْربأرگيله

  wa yuqālu ʔayḍan ma ʕəndigṛå̄m zǟt, wa flǟn byəšṛåbʔargīle

  And we also sayما عنديجرام زيت(ma ʕindigrām zayt,“I don't have a singlegram of oil”), andفلان بيشربأرجيلة(flān byišrabʔargīle,“So-and-so smokes(?)shisha”, literally“drinks”)

• وفلان جنگله أي كان سوقياًّ، والدرك سركلوا اذا وضعوا القيد في يديه

  wa flǟnjangalä ʔay kāna sūqiyyan wad-daraksargalu ʔiðā waḍaʕū l-qayda fī yadayh

  Andفلانجنكلة(flānjangala,“so-and-so is low-class”), andالدركسركلوا(d-daraksargalu,“the copshandcuffed(?) (him?)”)

• والشباك بلاشنگل، وفلانشنگل فلانه، وفلان من جْماعةِ الكفيّة والعگال

  wa š-šəbbǟk baläšangäl, wa flǟnšangäl flǟne, wa flǟn mən jmǟʕet l-kaffiyye wəl-ʕgǟl

  Andالشباك بلاشنغل(š-šibbāk balašangal,“the window has no(hook? lock?)”), andفلانشنغل فلانة(flānšangal flāne,“so-and-so linked arms with so-and-so-ette”), andفلان من جماعة الكفية والعقال(flān min jmāʕit l-kaffiyye wil-ʕgāl,“so-and-so is one of thosekeffiyeh-and-agal people”)

• وتقول المرأة ما عنديلگن

  wa taqūlu l-marʔatu mā ʕəndilagän

  And women sayما عنديلگن(ma ʕindilagan,“I don't have alagan”)

• حتّى مال الطرابلسي بكاف (لكن) الى الكاف الفارسية فقال:لگن يا أخيلگان في معرض الهزء والسخرية حينا، وفي معرض التبريك والتهنئة حيناً آخر

  ḥattā māla ṭ-ṭarābulsiyy bi kāfi (lakan) ʔilā l-kāfi l-fārsiyyati fa qāla:lagan yā ʔaḵilagān fī maʕraḍi l-hazʔi was-saḵriyyati ḥīnan wa fī maʕraḍi t-tabrīki wat-tahniʔati ḥīnan ʔāḵar

  And the Trabulsi even sometimes pronounces theك(k) ofلكن(lakan,“certainly; of course”,interjection) like the Persianگ, as inلگن يا أخي لگان(lagan yā ʔaḵi lagān,“for sure, brother, for sure”), said sometimes in jest and mockery and sometimes in celebration and to congratulate.

Still, when you think about it (talk ·stalk)04:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC)Reply