Just as we havethere's: Contraction ofthere is, what contractions doesth' allow? --Backinstadiums (talk)17:05, 24 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
I think this should be kept as one pos "Contraction"
[edit]If "th'" can really be a contraction for "the", "thou", and "there", we would then need to break this up for the three different words. Each of those words can have multiple parts of speech and it's not clear to me there is an obvious pos match for each word. This would lead to multiple pos entries on this page for each word. I don't think that makes the entry for this word simpler or easier to understand; quite the opposite. Since "th'" is ambiguous without a concrete use, I think it's best to leave it with a single pos entry "Contraction" and sense entries under that for each word it might contract.Killeroonie (talk)21:13, 10 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
I think you might want to revert your change toth'. See the discussion topic I added. As it stands now, you would need to move the sense entry for "there" to a different part of speech, (you have it under pronoun). But as in my post there, each word can have multiple pos and it's not clear which one "th'" would pertain to. So you would need to list them all for each word. I think that's just getting cluttered for no real benefit.Killeroonie (talk)21:18, 10 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
- (Moved fromUser talk:J3133.) I changed it after it was mentioned in the discussion because (as was mentioned) we usually do not use “Contraction” for single words, and the parts of speech ofthe,thou, andthere are clear.J3133 (talk)10:12, 12 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
- "The" has 4 parts of speech. "Thou" and "There" have 4 as well. ("There" has 6 if you include the misspellings.) Without some research into how "th'" has been used historically with lots of examples, how do you know which parts of speech for each word apply? And as to your specific edit, the usage of "there" in the existing quotation *is* as a pronoun. But how can you be sure that's the only usage of th' = there? How do you know it hasn't been used as an adverb or interjection or noun? Best case, there are only a few parts of speech represented by th', but worst case, there could be as many as 12! That's a pretty complicated dictionary entry. I reiterate that "th'" is ambiguous compared to other single word contractions, and in my humble opinion would be best left as pos=Contraction as it was originally.Killeroonie (talk)19:55, 12 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
- @Killeroonie: We handle alternative forms by repeating the parts of speech instead of using the heading “Alternative form” (which, like “Contraction”, is not a part of speech).J3133 (talk)20:12, 12 February 2025 (UTC)Reply