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Latest comment:2 months ago by Wastrel Way in topicThe Bible and the Eagles as examples

The Bible and the Eagles as examples

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I don't think the King James Bible is the best source of examples, since it is a translation and not written in natural English. Also the song by the Eagles illustrates a very minor use of the word.Redddogg04:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

My mistake. It is not the King James version being quoted. However the same issue could be raised.Redddogg05:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Do you have a better example for that sense? Find a suitable example and replace it.—Stephen05:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
English Bibles may be translations, but many of them, including Tyndale and the King James Version, are also important literary landmarks. As such they are well worth citing.Ƿidsiþ05:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Shakespeare's "Captains and kings depart"? I agree 100% on the importance of biblical translations. I just don't think they show normal everyday use of language. BTW if we are going to use "Hotel California" as a source should we have an entry for the word "steelly"? (just kidding, I love that song.)Redddogg20:43, 4 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
My bad. There is one forsteely, and just one "l". On the other hand, "They stabbed it with their steely knives" is not normal English. Their determination might have been steely, but their knives were steel.Redddogg21:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
  • This might be a good example for the general use as leader of men, fromThe Worm Ouroborus, by E.R. Eddison:

"Tell me," said she, "of this Corinius. Is he such a fighter as men say?"

"He is," said Gro, "one of the most famousest captains that ever was. That might not his worst enemies gainsay."[1]

I think we are lacking the ironic and humorous use of this word. "Captain Obvious" is noted in another comment. And then there is "Captain Beefheart", "Captain America", "Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy" etc. I'm not sure how to make this into a definition. And it goes back quite a while; you might have heard of a "Captain Kidd" who was not a captain, except of a pirate ship, and I suppose that could fall under one of the existing definitions. But no law-abiding person would have recognizing him as a "captain".Wastrel Way (talk)19:53, 25 January 2025 (UTC)EricReply

Consolidate

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It seems to me, but I could be wrong, that there are two basic related meanings here: "Leader (especially of men into action)" and "master of a ship." The military ranks are specialized meanings derived from this. The other definitions given are just minor variations and maybe could be taken off the page. For instance the master of an airliner, or a spaceship, is just an extension of the second and the leader of a group of workers or a sports team of the first. The word captain could be used in an unlimited way, as long as there are new groups that need leaders. In poker the most aggressive player is called the "table captain."Redddogg14:12, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

missing

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katepánō was a byzantine term which showed up sometime in the 9th century but isn't listed on there :3.Dainomite (talk)15:30, 23 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

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captain

"(Internet) Someone who providescontextualinformation for apost. Originally a shorthand forCaptain Obvious." This sounds pretty plausible but I've never come across it and am having trouble searching.Equinox19:44, 21 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

RFV-failedKiwima (talk)20:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

cap'n

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Also, particularly nautical or as a vocative,ˈkæpən (with this pronunciation also spelt cap’n)Backinstadiums (talk)09:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

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