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Wikimedia Education Program - National Education Policy Pilot Project at Fergusson College, Pune

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TheOpen Knowledge Initiatives (OKI) at International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderabad is a strategic initiative with the aim to foster language diversity and promote equitable access to knowledge across the Indian subcontinent. Through community-led and multilingual efforts across Wikimedia projects like Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, Wikisource, Wikidata in research, partnerships, technology development, and outreach, the initiative seeks to strengthen and expand the open knowledge and technology ecosystem.
Under theWikimedia Education Program - National Education Policy Pilot Project, OKI aims to develop a strategic framework for integrating open knowledge ecosystems into the Indian education landscape, directly responding to the mandates of theNational Education Policy (NEP) 2020 and integrating the findings of the2024 CIS-A2K study. OKI is facilitating and mentoring the community collaborations with different educational institutions to design the scalable process modules.
In collaboration with Fergusson College, Pune and Wikimedians, we have startedWikisource:Wikimedia Education Program - National Education Policy Pilot Project at Fergusson College, Pune. We kindly request for the community support in this endeavor.
Regards,Subodh (OKI) (talk)12:50, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Proposals

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Proposal: Add option for Wikidata item in Index namespace

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In some wikisources, basic data about a work in Index namespace comes from Wikidata, comparehere. This new trend is implemented by inserting the option inMediaWiki:Proofreadpage index template andMediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json. This makes the data centralised, and also readable by search engines that rely on Wikidata. I am proposing the addition here. This will be open to choice of individual editors, so that editors may fill up the Index page data as per current style or opt for importing from Wikidata.Hrishikes (talk)13:58, 30 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Comment Since a lot of editors here are linking scans and Index pages into data items for the work instead of the data item for the edition, I foresee a lot of mismatched information using this approach. On smaller Wikisources, this is less of an issue, but for a large project like en.WS, there will be a lot more potential for mismatched information. At the very least, we would need to agree on what values to use in certain locations: For example, Wikidata tracks editions and not always separate print runs, but here we will often make a distinction between impressions of the same edition issued in different years. --EncycloPetey (talk)20:18, 30 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
The edition versus print issue is a problem, but that has been sorted out by treating prints as editions. The item linked in my proposal is a reprint treated as edition in Wikidata. Every index requires a separate Wikidata item for this scheme to work, be it edition or print. Currently, index page data can be fetched from the Commons file; those who wish can do so. This Wikidata scheme will just create another option, to fetch data from Wikidata, like what is done in Author pages.Hrishikes (talk)04:29, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I wonder if this change might actually make iteasier to automatically track and fix Wikidata items that aren't modelling works properly? Certainly, I think if we were to proceed with this, it would be wise to start small and iron out any issues before making it a regular practice. —Beleg Tâl (talk)22:03, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Beleg Tâl: — Yes, of course. But I believe adding just an extra option is starting small. Big things are not now proposed. This option will motivate proper Wikidata entries at edition level (as opposed to work). Later, it will be possible to make appropriate queries using Wikidata tools to find various patterns and statistics. It will be possible to make entries in Author pages using a bot, instead of manually (the system exists elsewhere; in this set-up no vandalism is possible because the bot will correct those during next update). With proper Wikidata entries, works can be made available in the Wikisource android app (made available in PlayStore) for ease of readers. A work recently completed by me,Some Notes on Indian Artistic Anatomy, is available in the app. But I fully agree that we should start small.Hrishikes (talk)16:57, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Bot approval requests

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Repairs (and moves)

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Designated for requests related to the repair of works (and scans of works) presented on Wikisource

See alsoWikisource:Scan lab

Index:File:When Peoples Meet.pdf

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wrong title, should beIndex:When Peoples Meet.pdfDuckmather (talk)02:51, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Moved. --Beardo (talk)05:26, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Checkmark This section is considered resolved, for the purposes of archiving. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment.ToxicPea (talk)01:00, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Index:When knighthood was in flower bor, The love story of Charles Brandon and Mary Tudor, the king's sister, and happening in the reign of...Henry VIII; (IA cu31924022498913).pdf

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Should be moved toIndex:When knighthood was in flower or, The love story of Charles Brandon and Mary Tudor, the king's sister, and happening in the reign of...Henry VIII; (IA cu31924022498913).pdf (i.e. to change "bor" to "or"). However, I had already started proofreading it a long while ago, so this'll need an adminDuckmather (talk)02:53, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

I think it is best to get the file on Commons moved first. --Beardo (talk)01:08, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Beardo: just requested the move on Commons!Duckmather (talk)05:06, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Beardo: move is done on Commons, you can do the move here nowDuckmather (talk)19:50, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Index:Superseding Indictment, United States of America v. Robert Sylvester Kelly, also known as "R. Kelly".pdf

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File:Superseding Indictment, United States of America v. Robert Sylvester Kelly, also known as "R. Kelly".pdf is a redirect file toFile:Superseding Indictment, United States of America v. Robert Sylvester Kelly, also known as R. Kelly.pdf. So this index will have to be moved toIndex:Superseding Indictment, United States of America v. Robert Sylvester Kelly, also known as R. Kelly.pdf.SnowyCinema (talk)19:29, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Index:The_Ten_Princes_-_Ryder_-_Dandin's_Dasha-Kumara-Charita.djvu

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Hello, I tried to follow the instructions atHelp:Beginner's guide to adding texts and (for uploading)Help:Internet_Archive#ia-upload, which resulted incommons:File:The_Ten_Princes_-_Ryder_-_Dandin's_Dasha-Kumara-Charita.djvu. Then I createdIndex:The ten princes ryder dandin 27s dasha kumar charita.djvu (clearly a mistake, needs to be deleted) andIndex:The Ten Princes - Ryder - Dandin's Dasha-Kumara-Charita.djvu. There are a couple of (possibly related) problems:

  • For some reason, the set of pages in the uploaded file here (on Wikisource / Wikimedia Commons) does not match the set of pages shown at the Internet Archive.
  • In the page scans, the OCR-ed text is off by one page from the corresponding page.

Could someone help fix this mess? Not sure what I did wrong.Shreevatsa (talk)07:07, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Shreevatsa: this problem sometimes occurs with scans from IA; for each invalid view the text if off by 1 page. The file should be fixed now. •M-le-mot-dit (talk)09:46, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I see you uploaded a new version of the DJVU file. What was the fix?Shreevatsa (talk)16:47, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Shreevatsa:DjVuLibre tools (djvm, djvused) allow some operations on DjVu files (delete a page, get or set hidden text). •M-le-mot-dit (talk)19:12, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Page:An Etymological Dictionary of the Norn Language in Shetland Part I.pdf/127

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Something happened (I think a while ago) that broke many of the tooltips I have set up for abbreviations that contain superscripts and are throwing up errors, as can be seen in the link above. The problem will be somewhere inTemplate:Nornabr,Module:Nornabr orModule:Nornabr/data. Would anybody with more template knowledge be able to fix this?— 🐗 Griceylipper (✉️)19:25, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

I had a look, and while I'm not super familiar with wiki templates, itmight have something to do with the fact that {{sup}} now uses TemplatesStyles instead of inline CSS (i.e. line 2 ofModule:Nornabr/data). You might get more responses if you ask atScriptorium/Help. —Tosca-the-engineer09:19, 14 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Other discussions

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Where does the "Cast and Crew" section from

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Hi, I want to transcribe a film in my home wikisource, and I'm usingBlackmail (film) as an example. I couldn't find where the data of Cast and Crew section came from. I tried to copy to Sandbox[1], but it doesn't appear to have the Cast and Crew section. Anybody could shed a light on this? Thanks.Bennylin (talk)06:05, 24 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Bennylin: Hi, and thanks for taking interest in our film projects here. I looked and saw you're working on at the Indonesian Wikisource. The Cast and Crew section is generated by the template {{Cast and crew}} which is internal to {{Film}}. And the logic is in several Lua modules:Module:Cast and crew andModule:Film. Here's an example invocation:{{cast and crew|Q816038}} This can produce some code by itself. Hopefully that helps. If you need more help with it, I can try to take some time out this week or so to work on stuff over at idws with you.SnowyCinema (talk)06:36, 24 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the fast response. I will try it.Bennylin (talk)07:21, 24 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
It works now (id:Darah dan Doa (film)) even before I linked it to the Wikidata item. I wonder where it got its Wikidata ID from.Bennylin (talk)06:19, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Best choice for this editorial?

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So I came acrossChicago Press and Tribune/Editorial on Harper's Ferry and wanted to switch it to a scan-backed source (as well as transcribe the rest of that particular issue), so I transcribed Page 2 ofIndex:Chicago Press and Tribune 1859-10-20.pdf and transcluded it toChicago Tribune/1859/October/20/Where the responsibility belongs. The question I have now is this -- what should I do with the old version? Should I just blank the page and redirect to the scan-backed version? Make an edition page and include links to both? Leave it how it is right now? Let me know what you think.Mathmitch7 (talk)19:23, 24 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

I would say to redirect the non-scan-backed copy to the scan-backed one, making sure that the edit history is preserved.CitationsFreak (talk)13:42, 25 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Deleted perWS:Deletion policy#G4.@CitationsFreak: We do not keep such unnecessary redirects. Unlike Wikipedia, where contributors create their own texts—often building upon the work of others—we only transcribe texts, and therefore the page history is not as important here. --Jan Kameníček (talk)14:07, 25 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Helpful clarification of policyMathmitch7 (talk)15:40, 25 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Poems, by S. T. Coleridge. Second Edition, To Which Are Now Added Poems by Charles Lamb and Charles Lloyd

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can this be transcribed? i believe the link has a scan

https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_poems-by-s-t-coleridg_coleridge-samuel-taylor_1797Skittythetranscat (talk)10:55, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

The1803 edition is currently being transcribed, but has not had many volunteers working on it. --EncycloPetey (talk)15:08, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
When I searched for it nothing came up, how weird.
Thanks for linking!Skittythetranscat (talk)10:35, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
It's listed and linked atAuthor:Samuel Taylor Coleridge. It's often worth checking the author's page in addition to making a general search. --EncycloPetey (talk)14:56, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it can. Do you need help with uploading the scan or creating the index page? --Jan Kameníček (talk)15:09, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Once the 1803 edition is done I might look into it. Thanks for the offer.Skittythetranscat (talk)10:35, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2026-05

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Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

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  • Wikimedia Foundation invites comments onproposed future of theProduct and Technology Advisory Council until 28 February.
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Double-click errors in Proofread Page

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Last night I noticed odd behavior while editing in the Page namespace. The behavior is still occurring today. When I double-click a word, I now get the front half of a word selected instead of the entire word. It selects the word only up to the point where my cursor is positioned, instead of the entire word.

This behavior does not occur outside of the Proofreading in Page space, nor in other applications where I've tested for it. Although it does not occur 100% of the time, it is occurring frequently enough that I noticed it causing errors in proofreading, as I expect normal double-click behavior to select all of word, so that I can replace it, rather then retaining the end of the existing word.

Are other people experiencing this behavior in Page proofreading? --EncycloPetey (talk)20:29, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

I believe that double-click-to-select is a browser-based function; have you experienced this in other browsers? I can confirm that I do NOT have this issue, and I am using Chrome on Windows. —Beleg Tâl (talk)20:35, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I am not experiencing it either. Tried Chrome, Firefox and Opera on Windows. --Jan Kameníček (talk)20:45, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
If it is a browser-based function, then I would expect the same behavior in my browser regardless of the site / page. I considered this possibility and checked other sites, both in and out of Wikimedia. I am only experiencing the issue when editing in the Page namespace. --EncycloPetey (talk)22:07, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • That doesn’t change anything. I’ve had a long-running issue which only occurs in Page: and appears to an issue specific to me (not your issue, though); in other Web-sites, including other Wikimedia sites, there is no problem. For the record, I also don’t have your issue (I checked Chrome and Edge).TE(æ)A,ea. (talk)00:43, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Issues with editing window height in ProofreadPage

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Tracked inPhabricatorTask T393231

Has anyone encountered that recently? I've been having issues with the editing layout being compressed to a very small height, making it kind of unusable. I can reproduce on another account, so I'm a bit surprised it'd affect only me. (For details, see my report atphab:T393231#11570707.) —Alien 3
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Yes for past two days, I've been experiencing the second version you reported "the edit boxes overflowing onto the form buttons". No scroll bars on the edit window any more—instead the edit window expands to take in the entirety of the content, and the "form buttons" (Proofread status buttons, Publish buttons etc.) are floating in the middle of the edit box.
Edit: I've checked which feature was causing this extreme version of the problem in my case. It went away when I turned off "Improved Syntax Highlighting" in Beta Features.Pasicles (talk)21:43, 30 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Alien333: as a turnover you can use the grey handle above the Summary to expand the edit area. •M-le-mot-dit (talk)22:19, 30 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
My edit window suddenly reduced in height about the same time. I corrected the problem by dragging the edge of the editing window down, and it has stayed at the new height. I'm guessing that some sort of data was accidentally overwritten, or some change altered the default. The [OCR] button no longer appears at the top of my edit window; I have only the new drop-down OCR menu instead. And there in now an intrusive "Insert" drop-down menu at the top that was not there previously. The menu duplicates functions of the options below it, but also offers items that are completely useless in the Page namespace, like category and redirect insertion options, and the ability to sign my posts (in the Page namespace ??). This looks like Wikipedia-specific editing content misapplied to the Page namespace. --EncycloPetey (talk)22:54, 30 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
And for those of us who don't have the editing toolbar turned on, there is no grey handle to drag. I've got one line of text visible in header and footer, and four lines in the Page body box. The page image is a piece from the middle and can't be scrolled, so the Page: namespace is unusable for me, unless I turn the toolbar back on. It has no useful functionality for me, other than the occasional need to do OCR and it just wastes space on a smaller screen <grumble>. N.B. The "Insert" drop-down menu is the CharInsert gadget and is supposed to appear at the bottom of the Edit window between the footer box and the Summary.Beeswaxcandle (talk)07:45, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Addendum: It seems the page height value is now made uniform across all namespaces. So, when I enlarged the Page namespace editing window, it meant that I also made the Module and Author namespace windows larger, but the calibration is off. What is a good size in the page namespace is too tall in other namespaces; and a height that is good for Author and Module namespaces is too small for the Page namespace. The result is that I'm constantly having to adjust by edit window height every time I shift to working in a new namespace. --EncycloPetey (talk)16:22, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
If you don't use the editing toolbar, you may add a style to the class wikiEditor-ui-view in your common.css, e.g.
.wikiEditor-ui-view {height: 600px; }
until a fix is found. •M-le-mot-dit (talk)11:43, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, but it didn't work. It starts up okay at normal height, but then shrinks down to the four lines etc. as the page completes loading. So, there's something in the patch that is overriding.Beeswaxcandle (talk)07:31, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
.wikiEditor-ui-text { height: 600px !important; } might do better. —Alien 3
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No, still collapses down. Will see what happens when this week's release propagates.Beeswaxcandle (talk)07:26, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
I seem to be back to "normal" currently. Will see what happens as I move through some pages.Beeswaxcandle (talk)06:02, 6 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Something new has just lost my ability to resize the edit window in the Page namespace. I will have to stop editing until this is fixed, since I cannot see enough of the text at one time to be able to proofread. I had a properly sized window until a few minutes ago, when I started a new page without window resizing. This problem exists on other Wikisource projects in their Page namespace equivalent as well, not just here. --EncycloPetey (talk)01:12, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
They tried as far as I understand to revert last week's issues. Normally we should be back where we were. Is the window still too vertically small? I can't reproduce anymore. —Alien 3
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It is no longer too small, but I have still lost the option to resize the window. There are times when I would rather run the scan page and edit window above each other, such as when proofreading footnotes that contain Greek. Without the option to alter the size of the edit window, this is still impossible. --EncycloPetey (talk)14:38, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Not being able to resize the edit window feels like an accessibility issue. --EncycloPetey (talk)14:49, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
I have as well. I have found that resizing the optical window in a certain work carries over from page to page. —Justin (koavf)TCM01:14, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
screenshot showing issue fromUser:Mathmitch7
I just wanted to add here that I've found that in the Monobook skin, there's no scroll-bar in the ProofreadPage editing window, which makes it extremely difficult to proofread large pages. This behavior happens in both Edge and Firefox, and has been happening for me for a few weeks now. Screenshot attached to the right. I'm not even sure if the above issue on Phabricator quite covers what I'm seeing.Mathmitch7 (talk)16:01, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
I submitted apatch last week but it still needs someone to review.析石父 (talk)02:05, 19 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

How do I start adding sources?

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There are several primary source documents that I know are public domain (hundreds of years ago) that I'd like to add to Wikisource, but I am a bit confused; how do I start the new page? Is there a template? How does copyright apply to translations?VidanaliK (talk)01:06, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Have you readHelp:Beginner's guide to adding texts? You should start by uploading a scan of the work to Commons, then create an Index here based on that scan.
Translations have their own separate copyright status. For a translation to be acceptable here, both the original and the translation need to be in public domain. --Beardo (talk)02:11, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@VidanaliK: You can also start with proofreading or validating indexes that have already been uploaded by somebody else, e. g. within theMonthly Challenge collaboration, which might be easier for a beginner. Or if you have some specific scan that you want to transcribe here and need some help, we can help you with the technical stuff like uploading and creating the Index page. --Jan Kameníček (talk)21:40, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

National anthems

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I just wanted to note, since many national anthems have been put up for deletion as of late, that doing an actual transcription project ofNational Anthems of the World (1960), a text which was not renewed, might be a worthwhile endeavor so that we can have pages for specific countries' national anthems. I checked, and most of our national anthems that were considered for deletion did not originate from this collection. We've already more or less proven the Latvian and Portuguese anthems in this text are in the public domain, and many or most of the others likely are also. But the tricky thing is we will have to assess each of the anthems' copyrights individually, since for various reasons some originals or translations that appear in this book may have some way they were URAA'd or otherwise still under copyright, as has been noted before in the CV discussion threads. Pinging@MarkLSteadman, @TE(æ)A,ea.: as users who might be interested in this. Consider this somewhat of a request, as I can't work on sheet music and LilyPond myself (yet). I can help on the copyright parts if needed.SnowyCinema (talk)12:56, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

I requested a different collection of National Anthems from 1943, hoping that it again would be non-renewed, alas it was renewed.MarkLSteadman (talk)11:30, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Vast free space at the bottom of a page

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Does anybody have any idea why there is so much free space at the bottom ofManifesto of the Communist Party, below the disclaimers and everything? --Jan Kameníček (talk)01:17, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

On the left hand side it has links to the advertisement pages, so it seems to be something to do with that. --Beardo (talk)02:51, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
It's an issue with the advertisement template[5], introduces the extra space.GhostOrchid35 (talk)04:04, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
I note thatFantastic Universe/Volume 08/Number 3 also has a lot of blank space - I guess for the same reason. --Beardo (talk)23:01, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
From what I've seen it appears to be every page that uses that template where more than one page is transcluded within the template.ToxicPea (talk)00:44, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
While this error does seem to only occur with multi-page transculsions.The Merry Men and Other Tales and Fables,The Dawn of Canadian History andDreams of a Spirit-Seer, transclude multiple pages without this error.GhostOrchid35 (talk)13:48, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Does the problem only arise when the adverts are at the end ? --Beardo (talk)16:22, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Nope. SeeThe Famous Speeches of the Eight Chicago Anarchists in Court for example.ToxicPea (talk)16:26, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
And I tried moving the ads in the Fantastic Universe and that did not help. --Beardo (talk)16:31, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
ReviseTemplate:Advertisements?--TunnelESON (talk)06:22, 15 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
If I try replacing {{advertisements}} with {{front matter}} the extra space still appears. The issue is likely with {{collapsed section}}.ToxicPea (talk)16:35, 15 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2026-06

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Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • The "Page information" feature, which gives validating information about a page (example), now automatically includes a table of contents. If there is a localMediaWiki:Pageinfo-header page created by individual users, it can now be removed.[6]
  • Recurrent item View all 21 community-submitted tasks that wereresolved last week. For example, VisualEditor previously added bold or italic formatting inside link descriptions, making the wikicode complex. This has now been fixed.[7]

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  • There was no XML dump on 20 January. Additionally, from now on, dumps will be generated once per month only.[8]
  • The MediaWiki Interfaces team removed support for all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from theMediaWiki REST API. All API users currently calling those endpoints are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in phabricator to the#MW-Interfaces-Team board.
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  • Users are reminded that the Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan onMeta andDiff. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on thetalk page.

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Problem with the editing interface

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Hello. For the last few days I've been having a strange issue with the editing interface. The left box (where I can actually edit the text) doesn't have a roll bar, and the text just keeps going, with parts of it behind other elements, which makes it not viable to edit. It has something to do with my account, since it works after I log off it goes back to normal. It affects only Wikisource in several languages. I tried changing the appearance and disabling all gadgets, and the problem persists. Any one else dealt with this?HendrikWBK (talk)18:08, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

See#Issues with editing window height in ProofreadPage above. There seem to be several connected issues with editing the Page namespace right now. --EncycloPetey (talk)18:35, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, I must have missed this.HendrikWBK (talk)18:39, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Handling an entire chunk of misplaced text

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In one of the works I've been proofreading,Page:The reference shelf v4 no5 1926.djvu/45 there is an obvious error in the paragraphs of text currently marked using the SIC template. The chapter is a reprint from the Educational Record, and based on a check ofthe original it seems that the line "appropriations. Most students of government, however," has been accidentally swapped with "appropriations totaling two hundred million dollars.". What would be the best way of handling this?Arcorann (talk)00:21, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

I would put a note in the page header when it gets transcluded, something like
{{header|...|notes=Note: the source text contains errors, which have been reproduced faithfully. The errors are: The lines "[Line A]" and "[Line B]" at [insert location] have been accidentally swapped. The passage should read: "[The original passage]". The original passage can be read here: [link]}}
Tosca-the-engineer08:25, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
You're going to get a conflict here between the people who think the purpose of WS is to be an exact transcription of pages, and nothing more, and those who think the purpose is to create a work that someone might actually want to read. Personally, I'd either just swap the lines back (with a note in the source page), or use SIC.qq1122qq 09:31, 4 Feb 2026 (UTC).

Best practice and accessibility for eye spellings

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Isearched and found no previous discussion. I'm inclined to think thateye spellings should have {{SIC}} applied for 1.) intelligibility and 2.) accessibility. Is there any reason tonot do this? —Justin (koavf)TCM20:15, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Throwing out a few reasons to not put tooltips:
  • Because texts which use such spellings usually use them extensively, and we'd end up with a sea of tooltips.
  • Because it means assumptions from our part and decisions on how it "should" look that would be integrated into the text about everywhere.
  • (Specific to using {{SIC}} Because it implies that such spellings are errors: to quote the doc,This template should only be used for words that are actually typos. It is not for indicating a different or obsolete spelling.)
  • (Because it could be largely vain endeavour knowing tooltips are not supported by a wide range of devices.)
More specifically, I at any rate strongly opposerequiring tooltips because that would mean tons of unneeded work.
And then on reasons to do so:
  • intelligibility: we host published editions, not modernisations. What we offer is supposed to be the work as it was.
  • accessibility: erm, why? I don't see the link with the topic at hand. As I said above tooltips arevery inaccessible so it wouldn't change much accessibility-wise.
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I'm not concerned about tooltips as such, I'm concerned about a screen reader coming across a bunch of wonky spelling nonsense that a blind person will hear as a string of gibberish or a deaf person who can read standard English will see as a bunch of gibberish. If we can make this intelligible to a person who is using assistive technology or who is literate but has never heard English, why wouldn't we? —Justin (koavf)TCM20:47, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
This sounds to me like a good use case for creating anannotated version tbh —Beleg Tâl (talk)21:14, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
I did consider that for cases that have a lot of eye dialect spellings for a certain character, but there are also works where there are very occasional deliberate misspellings like this and it seems a little much to create an entire secondary edition just for a handful of words. —Justin (koavf)TCM21:16, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Because screen readers have the option of "go back and spell that word for me", and the English language already has objectively absurd spelling rules, and idiosyncratic spelling is not that difficult to understand. It might take a few pages to get your bearings, but tbh, sometimes that's part of the appeal. Phonetic spelling is often indistinguishable from the "correct" spelling when read aloud anyway (e.g. skool vs school), and considering that a large proportion of wikisource texts are 100+ years old, if a reader can't handle the idea that language and spelling change over time, they're probably in the wrong place anyway. —Tosca-the-engineer18:33, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Okay, but did you see what I wrote above about deaf readers? —Justin (koavf)TCM20:40, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
For TV programs, they will subtitle the speaker if they believe the dialect is going to interfere with the ability of a viewer to understand what is being said. That's a form of annotation, and we already have a process in place of creating annotated editions, as previously mentioned. --EncycloPetey (talk)14:45, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
And how does that answer the question I asked to a different person? Do you know if Tosca-the-engineer read what I wrote about the deaf? —Justin (koavf)TCM14:50, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • This would be inappropriate use of {{SIC}}, which should only be used for errors, not intentional differences; the use of eye dialect is obviously an intentional choice, so marking it as incorrect (using {{SIC}}) would be misleading. For intelligibility, an annotated version is more appropriate; (although I haven’t finished it,) some years ago I was working on transcribing a text with much in the way of nonstandard English. My solution was to keep the text as is, with no adjustments, in the standard transclusion, and use many instances of {{asw}} to create a “modern” English rendition. This could also be applied to a work with eye dialect, to create a “clean” version. However, in both cases, the modified version is more appropriately placed as an annotation. As for accessibility, well, eye dialect is also fairly inaccessible to people who don’t use screen readers, so I don’t think that there is a major difference in this respect. For comparison, if somebody wanted to listen to an audiobook of a novel which uses eye dialect, it would be strange if all dialogue was pronounced “correctly,” without any indication of the eye dialect in the text. Thus, there’s no reasonfor it, and as for reasonsagainst it, it is the goal of Wikisource to create an accurate transcription of the text.TE(æ)A,ea. (talk)15:10, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
    This adds up, especially re: {{SIC}}. I suppose the problem may be with the template itself: using "sic" in a text does not only apply to actual typos or errors, but any usage of language that could reasonably be perceived as an error. So we have restricted this template to one of the two main uses of the word, which means that I have proposed a non-solution based on the scope of the template. It seems like an annotated version is the only solution based on the existing templates and best practices. —Justin (koavf)TCM15:19, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

FYI: Spotlighting the World Factbook as We Bid a Fond Farewell

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https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/spotlighting-the-world-factbook-as-we-bid-a-fond-farewell/Justin (koavf)TCM22:50, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

I am working on rounding up folks to help put up current editions of theThe_World_Factbook text - the most current years just lead to a field of red links. I think this is just a copy paste job from the internet archive, unless anyone has a more bot-directed idea. --Phoebe (talk)22:41, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
psthis page may be helpful; and the archive has now made acollections page. -- 22:47, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Watchlist pop-ups

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Is anyone else bothered by pop-ups on the Watchlist. I keep getting them, over and over, on every project where I am active, which is about seven projects right now. I know some folks are active on even more projects. Is there a way to opt out of the pop-ups across all projects without having to visit every project one by one and click through them each time on each project? --EncycloPetey (talk)14:48, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Do translations done only for the Marxist Internet Archive meet inclusion criteria?

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For example, the translation at "What is an Anarchist?" appears to have been done only for the Marxist Internet Archive, sourced tothis page. Many others by the same translator appear to be a similar situation. As this is an online source, where these translations seem to be self-published without editorial controls, how do we feel about these? Do they meet our inclusion criteria?SnowyCinema (talk)15:38, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

It is just a web page which can disappear any time. We should host transcriptions of texts published in a fixed stable format, we should not be doing a mirror to the Internet. --Jan Kameníček (talk)16:23, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
No one is suggesting "mirroring the Internet": that's completely insane. There are plenty of very valuable educational and cultural documents that originate online and there's no reason why a digital-first or digital-only work that is otherwise in our scope ceases to be. —Justin (koavf)TCM18:04, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Of course. That is why I was not talking about digital-first (or -only) but about non-fixed web pages. Nothing against fixed electronic documents (e.g. pdfs), which can be easily uploaded to Commons.unsigned comment byJan.Kamenicek (talk) .
There's no reason why a filetype should change whether or not something fits our criteria as an acceptable text. —Justin (koavf)TCM19:31, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Again: Of course. That is why I gave .pdf just as an example. It can be any kind of a fixed electronic document. --Jan Kameníček (talk)19:39, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
HTML is a document. A PDF online has a URI, just like an HTML document has a URI. —Justin (koavf)TCM21:21, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
On the topic of these translations being "otherwise in our scope", I'm going to check that. So, when reading through the relevant policy atWS:Translations, it says (emphasis mine):

Published translations (public domain or open-licensed) have been created and released by an external translator and publisher. They allow the project to fill Wikisource withpeer-reviewed, edited content and verifiable translations into English.

This seems to at bestimply, and at worst outright rule, that peer-reviewed translations are the only thing we want at enWS, besides user translations at the Translation: namespace. And this is an official Wikisource policy. So, were MIA translations peer-reviewed? They don't appear to me to have been, so unless I'm mistaken about either the meaning of the policy or the situation behind marxists.org works, I think a number of these should be considered for deletion.SnowyCinema (talk)18:22, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
They were published by AK Press:https://www.akpress.org/down-with-the-law.html.MarkLSteadman (talk)18:25, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Ah, on inspecting that book, there's a problem. The book does not internally state that any of it has a free license. Here's the copyright notice in full, as can be seenhere:
Down with the Law: Anarchist Individualist Writings fromEarly Twentieth-Century France© 2019 Mitchell AbidorISBN: 978-1-84935-344-1E-ISBN: 978-1-84935-345-8Library of Congress Control Number: 2019933776AK Press370 Ryan Ave. #100Chico, CA 95973www.akpress.orgakpress@akpress.orgAK Press33 Tower St.Edinburgh EH6 7BNScotlandwww.akuk.comak@akedin.demon.co.uk[...]Cover and interior design by Margaret KilljoyCover illustration by Flavio Costantini, Les Travailleurs de la nuit I. Parigi, 1 ottobre 1901, 1964. Courtesy Archivio Flavio Costantini, Genova
@MarkLSteadman: I was going to say maybe we could bring a scan of it here to enWS, but this makes that a bit of an issue. The copyright status of the introduction and the cover, and possibly some of the other work within it, seems up in the air. Any ideas?SnowyCinema (talk)18:55, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Abidor certainly has recognition:https://www.nyrb.com/collections/mitchell-abidor. Example:https://www.google.com/books/edition/Notebooks_1936_1947 andhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/serge/1944/notebooks.htm . NYRB certainly meets our editorial standards, so how to handle the Copyleft MIA version and the Copyright NYRB version.MarkLSteadman (talk)20:19, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
There is one more issue: Marxist org. copied the text fromBrochure Mensuelle no 26, February 1925. That makes it a second-hand transcription, which is disallowed here perWS:WWI#Second-hand transcriptions. --Jan Kameníček (talk)19:52, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
SurelyBrochure Mensuelle had a French original ? Not an English translation. --Beardo (talk)19:59, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Ah, so in that case it was probably transcribed from the AK press publication (issued 2019), which is the same problem. --Jan Kameníček (talk)20:15, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
It wasn't, unless the Marxist Internet Archive has a time machine. Or how else did they transcribe in 2011 a book published in 2019?MarkLSteadman (talk)20:20, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Oh, now I can see my fault: I misread 1925 for 2025. Apologies for the confusion, I am taking all this back. --Jan Kameníček (talk)20:43, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Little Bitty Pretty One

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I noticed that the Wikipedia article references a 1992Billboard article (this one) which notes that the song lapsed out of copyright.Nighfidelity (talk)17:56, 6 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Given the date, I'd assume that it would have been published on paper to be copyrighted.HathiTrust theoretically has a source, but a school newspaper sans copyright notice that has a list of the lyrics for popular hits is a questionable source.--Prosfilaes (talk)00:31, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

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Proofread of the Month is missing pages

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Hello, I just noted this onthe work's talk page, but I've noticed that February's (first) Proofread of the Month,Index:Modern Tendencies in Sculpture.djvu, ismissing at least two pages. I haven't gone through every single page to verify those are theonly two missing pages, but this seems to be a major problem. Advice is appreciated -- In the meantime, I'll double check the other pages in the scan; and try to find a scan that includes the missing pages, so the file can be fixed ASAP. --Mathmitch7 (talk)00:19, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Mathmitch7: Repaired. 2 pages were missing (American VII and VIII). •M-le-mot-dit (talk)14:15, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Missing pages retrieveed fromInternet Archive identifier: moderntendencies00taft--•M-le-mot-dit (talk)14:19, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you!!!Mathmitch7 (talk)23:48, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Make file from images

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Is there anyone whom I could trouble, please, to make a PDF/ DjVu file from the 11 images inc:Category:The Dweller In The Darkness, splitting the double-page spreads where needed?

Or is there a tool that I can throw them at that will do the job to a sufficiently high quality?Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);Talk to Andy;Andy's edits18:59, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Someone may respond here, but we haveWikisource:Scan Lab for requests like that. --EncycloPetey (talk)20:27, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
I can do it. And EP is correct that the other board is better for these requests in the future. —Justin (koavf)TCM20:55, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Pigsonthewing:File:Reginald Berkeley - The Dweller in the Darkness.pdfJustin (koavf)TCM21:10, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. Now transcribed atThe Dweller in the Darkness.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);Talk to Andy;Andy's edits14:51, 12 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

authority control template in Author pages

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I've just been informed that I've been missing off {{authority control}} from the Author: pages I create. If it's a requirement to put it on Author: pages, can we not add it to the default template for Author pages? Otherwise I'm sure I'll start forgetting again at some point.Qq1122qq (talk)20:12, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

On a related note, can someone with the ability to run scripts on the sites add the template to any Author: pages I've created that don't have them?Qq1122qq (talk)20:14, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Automatically having it added to author, main/works, and portal pages is a good idea. —Justin (koavf)TCM20:16, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
It was included on all the author pages that I have created using the default template, at the bottom, after the note about license. I don't know why Qq did not get those. --Beardo (talk)20:57, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
When I go toAuthor:foo, there is no authority control added. Also, it should be on all content pages. —Justin (koavf)TCM20:59, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
If you use {{Author/preload}} it appears. I assumed that was what was meant by "default template". --Beardo (talk)21:02, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
When I create a blank author page (e.g. for Author:Banana) this is what I get:
{{author
| firstname =
| lastname = Banana
| last_initial = Ba
| birthyear =
| deathyear =
| description =
}}
==Works==
I have no idea when/where I would use {{Author/preload}} - if there are settings I need to change in order to get better defaults, let me know and I'll change them. (edit: line breaks not displaying properly there but I don't want to mess with the threading markup)Qq1122qq (talk)21:05, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
When I create an author page it has nothing in the box, but within the text above, there is a line which says "Click to preload this page with an author template" - when I click that, it gives the header, the works subheading and then below those:
"<!-- please add author license here; see [[Help:Copyright tags]] -->
{{authority control}}"
How do you get the heading and "Works" line ? --Beardo (talk)21:38, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
What happens when you click onAuthor:Beardo? —Justin (koavf)TCM21:40, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
A edit box with nothing in it. Above it, the following text:
"This page does not exist yet; you can create it by typing in the box below and publishing the page. If you are new to Wikisource, please see Help:Adding texts.
You are editing in the author namespace. This page should include an {{author}} template. Please review its documentation and Help:Author pages.
Click to preload this page with an author template
As an alternative, English Wikisource has a gadget to preload this and other namespace-relevant templates.
Note: Birthyear and deathyear parameters are deprecated in favour of pairing the author page with Wikidata and extracting the requisite data. Search for this person on Wikidata: Beardo" --Beardo (talk)21:45, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
There is a gadget the Editing section: "Preload useful templates such as header, textinfo and author in respective namespaces." So, looks like there's more than one way at present.Beeswaxcandle (talk)21:45, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Is there a name for the use of a semicolon when it connects two complete, independent thoughts?

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Is there a name for the use of a semicolon when it connects two complete, independent thoughts, replacing a period in headlines? For example: "McDowell Homestead Razed by Blaze; Origin Unknown" Some newspapers do not use periods in headlines, so use that style, it must have a name.RAN (talk)17:53, 15 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Isn't that what semicolons are usually used for? —Beleg Tâl (talk)14:20, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
en:wikipedia:Semicolon#English covers the main use cases; I don't think there are specific names. For example, you can use them to coordinate clauses without the use of a coordinating conjunction; to combine two sentences; or to place between items in a list. The use you're describing is kinda a combination of those types; common to this type of"Headlinese". --Mathmitch7 (talk)16:46, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Portal naming

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Looking for suggestions about what to name a portal for books about exercise and fitness.Eievie (talk)06:00, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Portal:Fitness ? —Beleg Tâl (talk)14:20, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
If people agree on that name, then it's fine. I was just sort of hesitant to name it that all alone because it seemed like a kinda modern phrasologly.Eievie (talk)15:31, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
LOC Classification uses Exercise for RA 781 and LOC subject heading is Physical Fitness.MarkLSteadman (talk)15:48, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. If I have to pick between "Exercise" and "Physical Fitness", I think I'll go with "Exercise". Nutrition is also part of physical fitness, and that seems like enough of a different topic that it should probably be a different portal?Eievie (talk)15:52, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

There's a woman name to fix

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Here:A Cyclopaedia of Female Biography the wrong name "Scacrati-Romagnli, Orintia" should be fixed into the right one "Sacrati-Romagnoli, Orintia". I don't know details of your policy about moving pages/fixing links... Here the original warning intoitwikisource scriptorium.Alex brollo (talk)09:42, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

I find that's an original mistake into the source book. Here her wikidata id: Q126367424.Alex brollo (talk)12:11, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
We match the original source text, you can add a {{SIC}} or {{Sic}} if you like to indicate the error.MarkLSteadman (talk)15:39, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
I updated the page to include a {{SIC}} note on the transcribed pagein pagespace and added a clarifying notethe transcluded version. This is the standard for en.wikisource. I'll make a note in wikidata as well.Mathmitch7 (talk)16:11, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Orintia Romagnoli Sacrati

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Hello, I've noticed an error: inA Cyclopaedia of Female Biography there is a link to "/Scacrati-Romagnli, Orintia/" but the correct name is "/Sacrati-Romagnoli, Orintia/" (this person on itwiki). I don't usually edit Wikisource and currently I don't have time to learn how to fix it, so I will appreciated if someone could do it for me. Thank youUna tantum (talk)15:47, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Ah, Alex brollo has already done the report, above.Una tantum (talk)15:49, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

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Portal or author?

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I've started working on the Chicago Tribune issue that covered journalist Alfred "Jake" Lingle's death, but I'm not sure if I should make it a portal or author.Nighfidelity (talk)21:17, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

If someone has written anything that was published in a place that we recognise as in scope, then they are an Author. Use theWorks about xxx subheading on the Author page for published works that are about the person. The Portal: namespace in this context is only for people who have not had any in scope publications.Beeswaxcandle (talk)21:30, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Were any articles credited to him, do you know ? --Beardo (talk)23:01, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Apparently, he never wrote any any of his articles according tothis.Nighfidelity (talk)12:25, 18 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Excerpts and works in Wikisource

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Since we now have "works" that have been added from 1990s newspapers being kept under the idea they have no copyrightable expression, I felt like pushing back against this.WS:WWI says "Random or selected sections of a larger work are generally not acceptable." and "Wikisource does not collect reference material ... Some examples of these include Lists; Mathematical constants (such as digits of pi); Tables of data or results..." What is a death notice but a list of data? In fact, that is the argument for it not being copyrightable. We should not have tiny snippets of data from larger works included here as works on their own.Prosfilaes (talk)05:31, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

  •  Keep Here is the example:Commons:File:Ruth Eleanor Borland (1914-1990) funeral notice.jpg. The form has not changed much in 150 years, it is designed to be terse since it is a paid advertisement. It can be read to completion just like a news article, unlike a few paragraphs of a Dicken's short story. It is created by filling out a form at the mortuary by a family member, two people filling it out would provide the same output. Anyone can read it and understand the content. It isn't a bunch of numbers, or other raw data. We exclude data dumps because they need context that is not contained within the data. For example we might host a published book that has lapsed into the public domain on the number pi, that mayalso contain pages of the digits of pi. But the book would be giving context to why we have several thousand numbers. We already host a large number of government research publications with pages of data. The difference is that the research publications come with context/explanations/trends/conclusions/overviews for the data. A raw data file would not. --RAN (talk)06:15, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
If two people filling out the form would provide the same output, it's raw data. No, the digits of pi doesn't "need" context, especially not compared to one random obituary. Everyone knows what pi is, many of us know that it's supposed to be normally distributed, etc. Yes, the research publications come with context, etc.; your obituary doesn't.
"It can be read to completion" has never been the standard for an excerpt. There are many excerpts that can be read to completion, but WWI still clearly forbids them. If you're saying it's a paid advertisement,WS:WWI also says "Wikisource does not collect advertisements that are not publications themselves."
I'm not a fan of tiny snippets being taken as stand-alone. We do that for poems sometimes, but poems at least are artistic works that have a clear distinct identity. You want to see an author's poems on their author page.Commons:File:Ruth Eleanor Borland (1914-1990) funeral notice.jpg I think shows the issue quite well; what do we gain by hosting this on Wikisource? It's fully transcribed on Commons and it's not adding anything to Wikisource.--Prosfilaes (talk)07:24, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • Lean Keep too. As said before, I don't think that these funeral notices arenecessarily extracts of larger works, but works in their own right, just like how a recipe in a cookbook could be considered its own work in some contexts (I've seen cookbooks where all the recipes were by different authors). Newspaper issues often have hundreds of articles (and we accept that each thing we'd call an "article" is its own work), often with very little there to distinguish what is and isn't an article, so with newspapers specifically it can be harder to distinguish "work" and "non-work". The notices are in prose form (even if just barely), so I don't think they're "lists" either. And the legal argument (in the US) for it being uncopyrightable is that it just contains basic facts—it says nothing about the form that those facts come in.SnowyCinema (talk)07:05, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Would we accept a recipe from a cookbook? I would argue against it; it's not a separate work. I generally tolerate newspaper articles as works for pragmatic reasons; they're really all part of one composite work, but that composite work is huge and tedious. Literary magazines consistently get stories from them published separately. For a book on poets, would we let the chapter on Henry Timrod be uploaded alone? If no, I don't see why we should let one death notice be uploaded alone.--Prosfilaes (talk)07:24, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
If the "chapter" on Henry Timrod is actually an essay, then it's a work. I think in that case, keeping that chapter here only would be about the same as keeping "Four O'Clock" only. But if it's actually just a chapter (and thus not its own work) then yes, delete that IMO.SnowyCinema (talk)15:27, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • Dispose of Under the argument of extracts from larger works being presented as works on their own. We either bring in the entire containing work or none of it. That's what the extracts policy is about (acknowledging that there some exceptions written in that policy). TheChicago Tribune for 1990 is under copyright. The fact that a few snippets are not does not change the overarching fact. In essence, all we're doing by bringing in these few random tiny chunks of various random newspapers is replicating what can be obtained from Legacy.com. We're not giving these snippets any imprimatur of validity, unlike the principal work of Wikisource. Note that we're not even bringing in the whole section of Death Notices from an issue of a newspaper—just one or two notices. This is not in alignment with the purpose of Wikisource. I mentioned the exceptions earlier: I don't see how a single Death Notice from a newspaper meets the exceptions.Beeswaxcandle (talk)07:08, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
We shouldn't be "replicating what can be obtained [elsewhere]". Isn't almost all we do replicating what is available at other transcription projects like Project Gutenberg and Project Runeberg and a dozen other projects performing digitization/transcription/formatting. The 1990 death notice in question predates Legacy.com, which began in 1998. --RAN (talk)18:38, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
No, we don't replicate what the other projects have. We may end up proofreading the same works, which is an expected outcome. But we do not pick up what they have done and put it here. Our policy is no secondary sources, instead we must be doing fresh proofreading. For me, the fact that a Death Notice probably doesn't carry copyright with it, is not germane to the wider issue of it being an extract from a larger publication (or publications if the Notice was published in several issues or several different newspapers). Wrt Legacy.com, I understood that they were pulling in older notices and not just those that have been published since they commenced. I've certainly found notices from the 1950s there, so I have no reason to think that a 1990 notice would not be available.Beeswaxcandle (talk)07:42, 18 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
"We either bring in the entire containing work or none of it." Wouldn't this be an argument against "Four O'Clock" which was recently kept at CV, as that's a short story that appears in a collection that's otherwise copyrighted? And also againstToki Pona: The Language of Good?SnowyCinema (talk)08:14, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Note that saying it survived CV doesn't mean that it merits inclusion. Like I could upload a compiled computer program, we could argue about it's licensing but that is orthogonal to does it even belong here? And in general, yes it is an argument against inclusion, among other things it makes scan backing difficult, it should be listed as a subpage of it's parent work but the front matter of the parent work that would go there is copyrighted, etc. However, there are arguments to keep it, e.g. it has been reprinted later, the lag between creation and publication, the independent authorship and copyright, etc.MarkLSteadman (talk)08:54, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
(Usually much or all of the front matter of a work is ineligible for copyright anyway) but yes, if we want to be consistent, we shouldn't allow "Four O'Clock" to stay either, because like the funeral notices which were admitted to have been reproduced on Legacy.com, "Four O'Clock" has been reproduced time and time again across formats since its 1940s release.
I wouldnot agree with this, but I'm just pointing out that this is where BWC's argument appears to lead us to.
And I was not arguing that it being keepable at CV automatically meant it can be included here. What made it seem like I was? In fact if you look at what triggered this discussion, I made that exact point in reverse—that CV was not the place to discuss this, so I recommended it be brought here. (Well, to PD, but I guess this is okay too.)SnowyCinema (talk)15:20, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
It doesn't necessarily, as I said there are arguments that might distinguish between them. And in general, it is likely that it won't be absolute clear rules: e.g. if the death notice was a clipping from an 18th century newspaper preserved somewhere and that is all that survived would that merit inclusion in a transcription of that newspaper? The main points of differentiation are:
  • The type: things like independent copyrightable and textual nature of a short story as opposed to structured reference data or advertisements
  • How the work describes it: e.g. is it listed in the TOC as an independent work or appendix vs. unlisted / or as a chapter
  • The history: did it exist independently previously (e.g. is it a translation of an existing separately published work?)
  • Broader recognition of it as a independent work: e.g. does it have a WP page or listed on WP as a work? Does it have independent ids on the Wikidata page (e.g. "Four O'Clock" is ISFDB #1053104)? Was it reprinted or cited elsewhere? Was it posted as an independent work in an archive or listing (e.g. a scan of just the newspaper clipping mentioned at a digitized library collection)?
While for Four O'Clock these tilt one way, for a death notice they generally tilt the other.
MarkLSteadman (talk)18:58, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
I am okay with allowing "reference material", provided it's published in a manner that is otherwise acceptable underWS:WWI (and provided that the community agrees to updateWS:WWI accordingly).—However, we shouldnot be allowing extracts, unless they are entire worksper se and the collection they are extracted from cannot be hosted in its entirety for other reasons (e.g. a PD work in an otherwise copyrighted collection). —Beleg Tâl (talk)14:50, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
(Note: I have not investigated the obituaries in question, and have no opinion regarding whether or not they should be considered worksper se) —Beleg Tâl (talk)14:52, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

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The license tag {{PD-US-periodical}} is used to indicate that different parts of a periodical may have different copyright statuses. It doesnot indicate whether any part of the periodical is in the public domain in the US. For this reason, I think that the "PD-US" in the template name is misleading, and I'd like to suggest that this template be renamed to something else, such as for exampleTemplate:License-periodicalBeleg Tâl (talk)16:05, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

(Moved fromWS:CV in the hopes that this will get more attention here.)SnowyCinema (talk)17:57, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
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