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It's disappeared again. All links now redirect tothis site. I'm keeping an eye out to see if the almanacco re-surfaces, but so far it's nowhere to be found on the new site. Grrrr!Voceditenore (talk)15:49, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I shall be working through as many as I can manage. Just would feel odd to me to get this wonderful release and not do a restoration to celebrate what made the archive, y'know?Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 7.5% of allFPs09:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think Rossini and Pacini are a little early. There was aBelfagorimage, but it was a mislabelledIl Piccolo do Haydn. We can hope the realBelfagor is uploaded in the next batch.Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 7.6% of allFPs17:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have been updating pages aboutThe Protomen who performrock opera, so I noticed the rock opera page does not have the WikiProject Opera template on the talk page, which leads me to think this project is not inclusive of rock opera, but figured I would ask to clarify.Pingnova (talk)05:57, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There were some discussions here a long time ago (June 2006 and May 2012) about that, and the consensus was then that rock operas (and rap operas by extension) are not in this project's scope. I doubt whether a new discussion would come to a different conclusion. I would argue against it. --Michael Bednarek (talk)06:18, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging some longtime project members;@Sparafucil:,@Antandrus:,@Gerda Arendt:,@Kosboot:,@Figaro:,@Nikkimaria:,@Voceditenore: Any other project members or guests are welcome to comment as well. Also pingingSsilvers,Adam Cuerden,Tim riley andMichael Bednarek who are not currently listed as members atWikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Members but have long been valuable content creators and editors in this area (please join or rejoin our project anytime). I've decided to finally take on a monumental task that has been a long glaring omission for our project, which is to write an article atopera singer (currently a redirect to opera). My idea is to write a history of how opera singing became a profession and how that profession has changed over time; and of course giving a general description of what a career as an opera singer currently entails. I'm source gathering at the moment, and would appreciate any suggestions for materials I should look at, and incorporate into the text. I am going to write it in one of my sandboxes and I'll probably come back here for a peer review before publishing to article space. I'm at the very beginning of the thought process here so it will be some time before I am ready for peer review. Given that this is a core concept page, I thought it best to get input throughout article building. I am listing sources below I am already planning on using. Feel free to add to my list, and I will read through additions. Best.4meter4 (talk)21:12, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bravo for undertaking a formidable task. From the 18th century on, there are plenty of sources that deal with opera singers. To my mind the challenge is finding the sources that identify the emergence of "opera singer" as a separate topic. I know there are a few pre-16th century sources that indicate singers' indulgence in their craft (in both secular and religious music) and I would think these are the beginnings of "opera singers." It might also be useful to examine librettos of early operas to see when they start indicating who are the singers undertaking particular roles. (EEBO - Early English Books Online would be helpful). Pre-18th century singing treatises might also be useful. Certainly Burney talks a lot about singers. It also makes me wonder who is the first singer to write an autobiography. I'm thinking ofMichael Kelly's 1826 book but there must be autobiographies prior to his. In any case, kudos for beginning the ascent of a very large mountain. -kosboot (talk)kosboot (talk)21:06, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Roselli's journal articles document the emergence/ development of the profession in Italy which is what got me thinking about the need for this article. Obviously each country/theatre has its own unique history, and ideally the article will have a global perspective. I'm sure that there are other scholarly works out there addressing this. I hope to find some coverage on the professionalization of opera singers in Germany, France, England, etc. Part of the reason I brought this here is because some might already be familiar with the literature, and it would save me time in the source gathering end.4meter4 (talk)22:36, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I'm doing your work. Here's an abbreviated passage from the Tosi article in Grove:
...Opera for him was only one of three types of singing (along with church and chamber) for students to master. ... With this went a polemic in favour of expressive pathos and against new-fangled display, but Tosi avoided identifying any eminent singers with either the ‘old’ or the ‘new’; he shared in a ‘general compromise by which singers and composers presided over the development of musical trends and tastes which were rejected in theory as much as they were pursued in practice’ (Durante).
If anyone is still reading this and more awake than I am: The article about Gaston Rivero desperately needs a review and watchers. It contains an absurdly long table with all his performances since he began singing. I spent all night trying to make something coherent out of the usable sources. Some fan, agent, or Rivero himself is currently adding more poorly formatted sources, and I don't think I can keep cleaning up after them much longer.~2025-32357-42 (talk)12:37, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for article work and raising attention. I commented out that ridiculous table. Not even Maria Callas has a table of all performances. The "laundry list" of famous places is also terrible without roles and people (singers, conductors, directors). You notice that it is translated from Spanish by roles names. The famous places often have no cities attached. I tried to reduce redundancy, such as that the Israel National Opera is in Israel. I have no more time for the rest of the day, though, and watchful eyes are welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk)15:43, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! I’m the main contributor to this draft article onDraft:Sherry Zannoth, an American operatic soprano with a significant performance career. The article includes citations from reliable sources, including major newspapers, regional opera companies, and educational institutions. I’d appreciate review and feedback from experienced editors on notability and sourcing, and would love to see this article moved toward publication.