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WikiProject Watches

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Thetalk page template forWikiProject Watches has been marked as inactive. This meant that its assessment categories were no longer being filled, and as such have all been deleted:

It's statistics are still available though, and it's able to be updated with the bot

Watches pages by quality
Quality
Total
FL1
GA1
B25
C101
Start317
Stub162
List6
Category71
File4
Project3
Template6
NA27
Assessed724
Unassessed38
Total762

How is this possible without the assessment categories being in place?Aluxosm (talk)23:18, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the categories were deleted on October 18, but the last update to that table was on September 23. So what's the incongruency? If you're talking about manual updates throughhttps://wp1.openzim.org/#/update it might just be that the updater starts, sees that there are no categories and nothing to be done, and then immediately completes.
There is nothing that deletes WikiProjects from the bot's database or website, even when the relevant categories have been deleted, so you will continue to seeWatches listed there.
Hope this helps!audiodude (talk)00:00, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh that does indeed! I didn't realise that projects aren't de-listed when their categories disappear. My confusion must have come from when the categories were emptied and the bot was run before they were deleted; this would explain things like these:https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Alien andhttps://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Pipe%20organ/ where their logs were are full of "removals" (seehere andhere respectively). Thanks for the info.Aluxosm (talk)00:50, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Forestry

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Sorry, having trouble setting up the stats for this project. Also, an editor is speedy-deleting the needed categories... I'd really appreciate it if you could set up and run the bot so we know the system is up and running.Wikipedia:WikiProject Forestry/Assessment contains the code

<div>{{Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Forestry articles by quality statistics}}</div>

which should presumably populateWikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Forestry articles by quality statistics but the file contains no data (I put a message in there to slow down the speedy deletionist).

All help gratefully received.Chiswick Chap (talk)09:27, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just ran the bot manually rather than wait for the nightly run, and it updatedUser:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Forestry, which is where it actually updates; your "Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Forestry articles by quality statistics" page was blank, but checking the page history it needs a link to that 1.0 bot page to be useful. I've updated it for you.
Something weird is going on with the categories, though-Category:FL-Class Forestry articles is empty, butTalk:List of inventoried conifers in the United States says that it's in that category?{{WikiProject Forestry}} itself says its on 3200 pages, but only 50 are in the categories. Very strange, but unrelated to the 1.0 bot. --PresN13:39, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for doing that: now we at least have populated categories, and a correctly-structured table. I'm sorry to trouble you again straight away, but as you say the situation looks weird. For instance, the bot has managed to include one tree article I brought to GA,Spruce, but not some others, such asPine, also at GA. I can't see any difference in how I configured these articles, they are similar in construction. Could the bot run have been limited to some number (50?) in some way with a default configuration parameter or something? I really don't know my way around the bot system so I'm at a bit of a disadvantage.Chiswick Chap (talk)18:29, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This has now doubled to 108 articles (out of 3200). Progress, but why not all of them?Chiswick Chap (talk)10:44, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not the bot, Wikipedia isn't populating the categories. The bot output matches what shows up in e.g.Category:GA-Class Forestry articles, it's just that your articles are only slowly showing up there. I think it's just slow to update; I just made a junk edit toTalk:List of inventoried conifers in the United States to see what would happen and itimmediately popped up in the category. I don't know enough about how the software handles categories to tell you what to do to fix it faster (other than editing 3100 talk pages...); maybe ask atWikipedia:Village pump (technical)? --PresN14:42, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for investigating. It sounds as if it may slowly sort itself out.Chiswick Chap (talk)14:49, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The issue here is that the template is the thing that populates the categories, but changes made to them (like yours) don't trigger an automatic reload, so the categories are only updated (and then used by the bot) after a random amount of time or, as PresN mentioned, when there's an edit to the page it's on. Using therefresh script, I made anull edit to every page it's transcluded on, then re-ran the bot; it looks like it's still missing a few but it's not far off now!Aluxosm (talk)11:04, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's brilliant, thank you so much!Chiswick Chap (talk)11:16, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of all WikiProjects doing WP 1.0 assessments

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Is there a list somewhere of all WikiProjects doing assessments?Category:WikiProjects participating in Wikipedia 1.0 assessments appears to contain only a small portion of these. If I can finish categorizing them, then it will be more straightforward, query-wise, to determine which projects to contact for key discussions at the WikiProject Council.Stefen𝕋ower's got the power!!1!GabGruntwerk19:47, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do both quality and importance assessments count? Most are using the quality assessments (especially now thatPIQA is a thing), but fewer are using importance assessments. These counts should be pretty accurate as they search for templates that useModule:WikiProject banner (1,366 uses excluding sandboxes) and which specify either the|class= or|importance= parameteres:
The inverse of these searches are almost more informative:
With only 259 projects in that category, either way it has a way to go! It'd definitely be easier to update it with the help of a script that finds the missing ones; if you still reckon the category is actually useful, I could do it if we decide on the criteria 🤙Aluxosm (talk)11:36, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was just about to suggest that it could be updated automatically by theWP banner module but it seems that it already does to some degree! I think it only tracks 1,061 templates because a few are missed due to non-matching titles (see thedocs), and it currently only tracks the|class= parameter, but this might still be useful:
This same code could easily be adapted to categorise the WikiProjects themselves (instead of their banner templates) intoCategory:WikiProjects participating in Wikipedia 1.0 assessments, whether they have the|importance= parameter or not.Aluxosm (talk)00:03, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your well-considered reply. I'm looking for any WikiProjects doing WP 1.0 assessments, where class/rating will be set for in-project subject pages. It doesn't matter as much if a project sets importance, or uses an alternative like priority, as for this exercise, I'm just interested in the overall WP 1.0 effort for inclusion in the category I referenced.
The searches you link here unfortunately won't be accurate, mainly due to the existence of WikiProject United States, which is an umbrella to a large number of projects, which themselves should count in the total.
Since I posted my request, I've been thinking about this, and have concluded the best way to handle this (so far) is to find alist of all the WP 1.0 tables that gets filled in by the WP 1.0 bot, using those to determine the WikiProject front pages, and rejecting any of those that are redirects. From this list, I would subtract out all those already included in the category, and useAWB to add the category to those remaining. If there's an easier way to do this, that would be useful, but the approach I'm outlining here already isn't particularly difficult.Stefen𝕋ower's got the power!!1!GabGruntwerk01:11, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like that's better for what you're going for maybe; the framework of a standalone "wikiproject" isn't always a valid one. I raise as an exampleUser:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Video game characters, which is the table for the video game characters task force (WP:VGCHAR), which isn't a "wikiproject" in that it's a task force forWP:VG, but does track its own subset of articles, so the difference between that and a wikiproject is mostly just template coding. --PresN04:04, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think task forces like this should be placed inCategory:WikiProjects participating in Wikipedia 1.0 assessments? Or is just adding their parent project good enough?Stefen𝕋ower's got the power!!1!GabGruntwerk19:41, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
PingingMSGJ to see if we could automatically populate the following categories usingModule:WikiProject banner/templatepage:
Aluxosm (talk)01:08, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We already haveCategory:WikiProject banners with quality assessment andCategory:WikiProject banners without quality assessment. Task force categorisation could be added if needed — Martin(MSGJ · talk)10:44, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is useful for banner templates but due to some banners being used across multiple projects, this probably should be seen as a separate matter from what I'm asking about.Stefen𝕋ower's got the power!!1!GabGruntwerk01:35, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, not as easy as I thought. To your question, I think that it'd be good to have them all in there so that active task forces with inactive parents aren't ignored when sending mass messages.Aluxosm (talk)04:48, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are already three task forces in the category, so it makes sense to add the rest, for now.Stefen𝕋ower's got the power!!1!GabGruntwerk01:38, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh of course! Yeah, there are168 WikiProjects with at least one task force that uses|TF_n_QUALITY= to provide ratings.{{WikiProject United States}} is indeed the biggest with nearly 100.Aluxosm (talk)00:54, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Selection bug in Wikipedia 1.0 Server

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I'm trying to use the PetScan feature to make a .zim for kiwix.

https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=40642859

However, the Zim that is outputted by the openzim (https://wp1.openzim.org/#/selections/user) tool is weirdly small.

Just 40 pages, it seems, looking at the main page through kiwix.

Not sure if you can access the link to the Zim file but here it is (https://api.wp1.openzim.org/v1/builders/1778e6ef-6c81-494e-b044-d9014b257cc9/zim/latest). It's 430 KB. Any idea what might be going wrong?

Looking at the output of the PetScan, I seem to have all the pages I want, but it doesn't seem to translate properly to the Zim file.

the Zim downloader seems to be getting confused, downloading the pages without the Template: or Help: namespace prefix in the url (eg: instead of downloadinghttps://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Barnaby_Rudge, it downloads fromhttps://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barnaby_Rudge)SkylightPenguin (talk)09:31, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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