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Delete All were created in 2021, if articles are ever written (which appears unlikely) the templates can be recreated. Rgrds. --BX (talk)21:55, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template'stalk page or in adeletion review).
Keep, the minor league Hall of Fames are important to their organizations and the league. The two links above are to essays, which have nothing to do with policies or guidelines and are just opinions. An option would be to add the navboxes to just individual articles of those who never made an impact in the major leagues, and this was the height of their career.Randy Kryn (talk)10:41, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no guideline based reason to keep either. Per theWP:NAVBOX guideline:
The use of navigation templates is neither required nor prohibited for any article.
Delete per nom. It's unlikely that readers will navigate between these individuals via this navbox. These are rather insignificant accomplishments for players that achieved much more in the major leagues. The list articles are sufficient for readers interested in the hall of fame members. –Aidan721 (talk)15:01, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't checked, but I'd guess that not everyone listed on the navbox achieved success in the major leagues and this may be the high point of their sporting career.Randy Kryn (talk)15:03, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per mostly Bagumba's reasoning. Not notable enough HOFs to justify both having templates imo. Also Southern League HOF only lasted a short time from 2014 to 2020 with most of the inductees being inducted because they were selected to the actual Baseball HOF.--Yankees1016:49, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep{{International League Hall of Fame}} It is a legit grouping of people whom a reader would benefit from using the navbox (IMO). Not every person in the template has to have the template on their article if it is trivial to that person. An example,Rogers Hornsby is on both the{{Atlanta Braves HOF}} template & the{{St. Louis Cardinals HOF}} template, but only the Cardinals HOF template is on his page. The IL template should be onIke Boone's page but notWade Boggs' page. The IL was triple-A and lists career minor leaguers who excelled. Rgrds. --BX (talk)21:30, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not every person in the template has to have the template on their article if it is trivial to that person @BX: My general experience is that navboxes like these typically end up being added, either by drive-by editors "fixing" for consistency with others that have it, or a guideline-based reason likeWP:BIDIRECTIONAL. Otherwise,WP:TEMPLATECREEP wouldn't be the unmanageable problem that it is. —Bagumba (talk)02:15, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bagumba:BIDIRECTIONAL continues "Whether to include navboxes, and which to include, is often suggested byWikiProjects, but is ultimately determined throughdiscussion and consensus among the editors at each individual article. Per the bidirectionality principle above, this may also affect inclusion of a particular article in a navigation template. If a disagreement should arise, please centralize discussion at the article talk page [...]." So it can be removed per BRD. I also suggested atWT:BASE to add directions atWikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Player style advice. You commented there to see how it turns out here, which was my intention as well. TCREEP is only unmanageable if no one bothers to manage it. Rgrds. --BX (talk)02:29, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I hear you. Deletion is also a way of managing the situation, esp. when drive-by editors won't be aware of detailed WikiProj standards, but will simplistically copy what they saw somewhere else. Such is crowd-sourced editing. Regards. —Bagumba (talk)02:38, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete{{Southern League Hall of Fame}} Re: the SL template, I would only place it on ~8 articles of the 45 listed people (of which only 36 have articles). The SL was only double-A and only recognizes success at that level which IMO is trivial. --BX (talk)21:30, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect'stalk page or in adeletion review).
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template'stalk page or in adeletion review).
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module'stalk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
